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[00:00:43] Well maybe I was screaming at the listeners to go to fansets.com

[00:00:46] so you don't know it could be either way. You looked right at me.

[00:00:50] I was yelling at you. Yeah you were.

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[00:00:53] Yeah. Hi this is John Billingsley, Dr. Phil Flockx from Star Trek Enterprise. Now I'm reading

[00:01:02] something that was written for me and I think they could have done better so this is not me,

[00:01:07] this is them. My prescription for you is a healthy dose of the Trek Geeks Podcast

[00:01:14] starring Dan Davidson and Bill he could have done better Smith it truly is the best medicine.

[00:01:22] Oh come on boys and here's how they close it doctors orders shame Tisk Tisk

[00:01:30] for the record that was Dan Davidson that wrote that. That was me.

[00:01:34] Wow. That's even better because now it's forever blamed on Bill.

[00:01:38] That's forever blamed on Bill. Thank you Mr. Bakula.

[00:01:44] All right.

[00:02:22] We're not here neither of us. We're in a menagerie of a cage.

[00:02:36] From the Potpourri division of Podfleet Command it's the biggest little show this side of the

[00:02:39] Alpha Quadrant and the flagship of the Trek Geeks Podcast. Let's work greetings to you

[00:02:43] Jeopardy enthusiasts all across the galaxy and welcome to the Trek Geeks Podcast. I'm

[00:02:48] your co-host Bill Smith and we have a fun one on tap today it's an episode where we have not

[00:02:54] planned a damn thing and we're going to see how the hell we get through this and by we I do mean

[00:03:00] my inestimable co-host and myself. I say inestimable because I cannot estimate how dumb he is.

[00:03:11] He is the largely annoying Dan Davidson and Dan. Skye's the limit today brother.

[00:03:17] Skye is the limit. You already said Jeopardy so I'm thinking when Alex

[00:03:19] Preveck was in insurrection but that's the story for another time. Yeah you said this to me a few

[00:03:24] weeks back when we were getting ready to sign off on our last podcast and we don't have a topic.

[00:03:30] We're just doing one whole episode that we're dubbing as our outtake episode. It's not a

[00:03:37] collection of outtakes from past episodes it's just we're just talking about whatever.

[00:03:41] Could be Star Trek. Could be cake. We don't know it's just going to be talking about anything.

[00:03:47] Cake is great so I think it's a fantastic idea it's fun the listeners seem to enjoy our outtakes

[00:03:52] so we said why not make it a full episode and just just blab. Blab. Well you know at the end of

[00:03:58] every year we usually do the outtake specials where we do the outtakes collected from the

[00:04:02] year and last year we didn't really do very many episodes so we thought that this would be

[00:04:06] kind of a way to make up for that in a sense but also to give people a new experience because I

[00:04:14] think that part of the reason people listen is because they feel like they're part of the

[00:04:21] conversation. They feel like they're part of our friendship to some extent and our outtakes are

[00:04:27] some of the most popular aspects of the show. Because it shows your incredible genius and

[00:04:34] my incredible stupidity I know what you're going to say isn't that just during the regular part

[00:04:38] of the episodes too. No I was going to say well that's pretty much a hallmark of your life.

[00:04:45] Thank you very much. Without the outtake we wouldn't have coconut, we wouldn't have NPR radio,

[00:04:52] we wouldn't have Bing Bong. Yeah, Bing Bong is a big one. There's a whole bunch of things

[00:04:59] that kind of pepper in this podcast that we would not have if we didn't have the outtake segment.

[00:05:05] Love pepper. So for those of you discovering track cakes for the first time, this really is

[00:05:10] a Star Trek podcast. Guarantee it we've got 311 other episodes that are about Star Trek.

[00:05:15] Pretty much. But after the end theme music every episode there is an outtake and it's

[00:05:24] it used to be like 2-3 minutes and now it's more like 15-20 minutes of

[00:05:28] pre-show banter between Dan and I before we actually sit down to record

[00:05:33] track cakes and it's not scripted in any way. Anything that comes up in the

[00:05:38] outtake is a complete surprise to the other person. It is. And it's some of the best

[00:05:43] fun we've ever had recording this show. That's what this entire episode is going to be.

[00:05:51] It's kind of like a Marvel movie. If you're starting here, it really is.

[00:05:55] If you're starting here you might want to back up an episode to 311 and have some

[00:05:59] Star Trek content before you enter this. Exactly. I'm sure we're going to talk some

[00:06:03] Star Trek during our episode today but if you're starting with this please excuse our

[00:06:09] mental illness. Because I definitely have one. Can you just probably can just say

[00:06:14] that for the other 311 too can't you? Yeah probably. I'll put it on the edge for those though.

[00:06:19] There you go. Very good. Nice. I can joke about it.

[00:06:22] It's funny. I'm looking at the calendar. I got a Star Trek desk calendar for Christmas.

[00:06:26] Just one of those ones that has 3M65 page. Oh yeah.

[00:06:29] Just rip off one every day and I haven't ripped off yesterday because it's just

[00:06:31] awesome is Jeffrey Combs, Wei-Yun staring at me. The Dominion.

[00:06:37] Which Wei-Yun? Oh. Does it say which episode? It doesn't. It just says

[00:06:42] Jeffrey Combs as Wei-Yun in Star Trek Deep Space Nine. There he is.

[00:06:47] You can't see him. I think that's the first one.

[00:06:49] It's still awesome. He does have, looks like it is outside. He does have a yellow shirt in the

[00:06:54] background. Yeah. Based on the uniform. Yeah. Yeah. Nice catch.

[00:07:01] See there's the Star Trek for us. That's it. Totally getting.

[00:07:05] So there actually is like Star Trek things to talk about.

[00:07:11] Obviously you saw section 31 is wrapped filming. Yes.

[00:07:14] People wondered about the teaser image that was leaked,

[00:07:20] which looked pretty good. It looks like a yo. I adore Michelle Yo.

[00:07:23] I love her. Love her so much. She looks fantastic in that picture.

[00:07:28] I still wish we could have gotten Prime, Giorgio in her own show for more than

[00:07:35] an episode and a half. Yeah. I know.

[00:07:38] Kills me. It does. Well, it got killed so it makes sense.

[00:07:42] But honestly, she may not have gotten an Oscar at that point if she had done a long

[00:07:46] commitment to a Star Trek show. That's true. We now have an Oscar winner as the major

[00:07:52] part person in a Star Trek film. Pretty cool. I believe we've had an Oscar winner as a villain.

[00:08:00] We have. Yeah. I'm pretty sure Plummer won an Oscar. But I mean...

[00:08:04] I wasn't talking about him. No, we're talking about his direction.

[00:08:06] We're talking about his direction. Yeah.

[00:08:07] Yeah. F. Murray Abraham.

[00:08:09] But yeah, but he's not top billing. He wasn't top billing at that.

[00:08:11] I'm just saying we've had Oscar winners in Trek.

[00:08:14] Yes, he won for Amadeus, didn't he?

[00:08:17] He did. Yeah. Wow. I've never seen the movie, but they will pull that one on my Keeter.

[00:08:23] It's a good movie. I mean, it's almost 40 years old now because I believe it came out in 85.

[00:08:29] And I think he won Best Actor in 85 or 84. One of the two. I can't remember which.

[00:08:36] And this is not a spoiler because it's out there. So I'm going to say it.

[00:08:39] One of the things that I read, which I found very interesting is we don't know really what time

[00:08:45] this movie is going to take place in. But apparently Rachel Garrett is going to be a character,

[00:08:50] the captain of the Enterprise C. So that was very interesting to read.

[00:08:54] Don't know if it's true. Well, actually, I think it is true.

[00:08:57] It is true. They wrote about it is true. But

[00:08:59] don't know how that's going to play in. It's going to be very interesting. This will be now

[00:09:03] the second time that she has been referenced in a Star Trek series other than in yesterday's

[00:09:08] Enterprise. That's too bad.

[00:09:14] Well, people are saying that this is like, you know, it takes place in the lost years.

[00:09:20] And I kind of forgot one all about that novel. I don't know how I could have

[00:09:24] because it's a fantastic novel. It is. I'll think the three of them. All three of them are great.

[00:09:28] Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. The series of novels. But

[00:09:33] people are right. This is really kind of the first expansion into the lost years,

[00:09:37] even though it's section 31. So we'll see. I'll tell you what, though, whatever that person is

[00:09:43] and whatever that Geary's got on his head, that was pretty cool in that picture.

[00:09:47] I wonder if we'll see Pike in the wheelchair. Oh, I don't think you're going to say that.

[00:09:55] That was cool. Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah, because it's during the lost years.

[00:10:00] Yeah. Kirk is already in command of the Enterprise. Very interesting.

[00:10:04] Interesting. At least we presume it's during the lost years. Right.

[00:10:10] The ones after TOS season three and before next gen. Or I should say after TAS season two.

[00:10:17] And right. I get you. Yeah. Other Star Trek news might as well just get right

[00:10:24] on. I'll start to news right off the bat. We're like a week away from Discovery season five.

[00:10:30] We are. Yeah, which is a final season. It is hard to believe.

[00:10:38] I haven't been able to watch any of the... We get the screeners. I know that you've watched some.

[00:10:42] I haven't been able to watch any because when I was talking about it with two,

[00:10:47] she never watched the rest of season four. She stopped at some point.

[00:10:51] But she hasn't seen the rest of season four and I kind of want her to see the rest of

[00:10:55] season four before we start season five. But everybody knows my take on season four was kind

[00:10:59] of like gone. So she's not overly excited to start it either. So hopefully we'll get it

[00:11:05] going pretty soon. I think so. I mean, I've rewatched season four since

[00:11:12] and I still have the same opinion of it. Again, for those who may forget,

[00:11:19] we're not Discovery haters by any means. No, God. No, not at all. Love Discovery.

[00:11:23] We don't hate any of the new Star Trek that's been created since 2017.

[00:11:27] We're big fans. But neither of us were really satisfied by season four because

[00:11:33] we thought it was about seven episodes too long. And I had many issues with some of the writing

[00:11:41] decisions. I'm not saying it was written poorly. I just questioned some of the

[00:11:45] decisions they made like giving the big moment with the aliens to book and not burn them.

[00:11:51] Instead of Captain, right? And you're right. It was it was too long.

[00:11:56] I always kind of bristle at people that say, oh, Star Trek movies or Star Trek shows

[00:12:00] shouldn't have all these big space battles. It's more than that. I like the space battles.

[00:12:05] I think they're great. Special effects are awesome. I love seeing them.

[00:12:09] Kirk was firing phasers every other week. Thank you. Just because the special effects

[00:12:13] weren't great doesn't mean look at the look at the special effects and Picard season three

[00:12:18] in the in the row episode. I mean, that that that image of that Starship coming up from your bottom

[00:12:23] of your screen in the middle of just about the heart of that firefight is incredible.

[00:12:27] You can have that and it's still as good as any other Star Trek. But you're right.

[00:12:33] If you don't have that and you're putting in stuff that isn't is questionable writing that

[00:12:38] we've talked about or it's just kind of slow, it makes a season drag. That's what happened to

[00:12:44] me before. Yeah, no, I don't disagree. I'm looking forward to season five. I think it's different

[00:12:49] in tone. I know that based on other articles that have been published, they focus and they do take

[00:12:57] feedback from fans very seriously. And there was one fan that wrote a great piece about

[00:13:05] disaster fatigue and Star Trek Discovery. And I think his name was Bill Smith.

[00:13:11] And I'm not taking credit for season five, but it's definitely a pivot from what they were doing.

[00:13:17] Yeah. That's how many episodes are you in?

[00:13:20] I've not even finished the first episode because I'm busy packing.

[00:13:24] Yeah, that's something we're going to talk about. Absolutely.

[00:13:27] So you've seen photos of my desk, right?

[00:13:29] I have.

[00:13:30] So nobody at home can see this, but maybe I'll take a photo of it later. But

[00:13:33] it was covered with Trek stuff.

[00:13:36] Trek stuff. Yep.

[00:13:38] That whole top shelf is empty.

[00:13:40] Completely empty. Wow, you've been doing good job packing.

[00:13:46] So still lots to go. The roll-off dumpster gets delivered Monday.

[00:13:53] And not a lot of time, my friend.

[00:13:55] Oh, we got plenty of time.

[00:13:56] Tell people what's going on because I'm sure some people have heard or haven't heard of it.

[00:13:59] So my wife and I bought a house in North Carolina.

[00:14:04] Congratulations. Get the hell out of here.

[00:14:07] Thank you. It's a wonderful little town about 45 minutes east of Raleigh.

[00:14:15] It's kind of an up and coming area. Some of the areas that people were looking at and moving to

[00:14:24] before the pandemic really have gone up significantly in price

[00:14:27] since the pandemic and during the pandemic.

[00:14:30] And now there's sort of a next area of towns that are

[00:14:34] the next sort of round of towns that are up and coming.

[00:14:40] And so we found a great house and a development that our realtor actually added to our list of

[00:14:45] ones to see. And it turns out it's our dream house. It's got everything we wanted.

[00:14:50] The one.

[00:14:51] It was the one. And we are so psyched. So we are moving April 25th.

[00:14:58] That's right. That's less than a month away. Yeah, North Carolina is like the largest

[00:15:02] growing state in the United States right now. So you're adding to that statistic.

[00:15:06] So congratulations, man. I know that you've wanted to get out of New England for a long time.

[00:15:11] I've wanted it for a long time. And I'm sure you're going to just have a great time down there.

[00:15:16] You and the Mrs. and the Pup.

[00:15:17] It does check a whole lot of boxes. I have... Well, it's no secret. I've never liked winter.

[00:15:24] Not even as a kid. So for 50 plus years, I have wanted not to live in New Hampshire.

[00:15:31] The three years I didn't live in New Hampshire, I lived in Denver. And that was just EDSE on my part.

[00:15:37] It gave me some lifelong friendships, but the weather was just drier. It wasn't any less snowy.

[00:15:47] But now this is... After the last few New England winter, especially last year,

[00:15:51] it was bitterly cold for so long. We had that weekend where it was 50 below zero.

[00:15:57] I know. I'm sure you remember. Yeah. That was fun.

[00:15:59] We decided we were both done. So yeah, in less than a month, we will be in the new house.

[00:16:08] And we can't wait. We closed this week. Yes, congratulations.

[00:16:12] Saw that. Thank you. We are officially homeowners.

[00:16:14] Look at that. Get out of here, you silly.

[00:16:19] Now we're going through 14 years worth of junk we haven't looked at.

[00:16:23] Oh, that's nice.

[00:16:23] And that's why the roll-off dumpster is being delivered on Monday.

[00:16:26] That's going to be a lot. That's going to be a full dumpster, I'm thinking.

[00:16:30] Could be 15 cubic yards. Yeah.

[00:16:34] Well, it's quite an accomplishment. Congratulations on the two of you owning a home

[00:16:38] together for the first time. That's really great. I know how excited I was when Sue and I did it.

[00:16:44] So yeah, it's going to be great. It's going to be a lot of fun. Get things set up. Decorating.

[00:16:48] Decorating is always great. Of course, you're going to have the pooch to have her new

[00:16:52] backyard to run around in. So that's pretty cool. I'm very excited for you, man. That's great.

[00:16:57] Congratulations. That's the other thing too with a dog that does not like other dogs.

[00:17:03] We have, for those who don't know, we adopted a senior American Staffordshire slash Pit Bull mix

[00:17:11] two years ago when after our dog Abby passed away. And she's a 50-pound dog, Isabella.

[00:17:18] She is not people aggressive in any way. She adores people, as you have found out firsthand.

[00:17:25] But she does not like other dogs, period. I mean, it's not good. So I would rather have that problem

[00:17:32] than the opposite, quite frankly. True. But we want her to have her own yard because we live

[00:17:37] in a townhouse condo development and people don't care how dogs they're close get to other

[00:17:44] dogs or sometimes even if they're on leash. Right. And that's not good for Isabella.

[00:17:49] So we want her to have her own space. We want us to have our own space with no people against our

[00:17:55] walls. And so it's happening finally. There you go. That's awesome. Speaking of dogs,

[00:18:04] this week was very special for us as well. Of course, people out of listened to the show

[00:18:08] know that our sweet Cali passed away two December's ago and Ari is getting up there in age. Ari is

[00:18:14] almost 11. And we've been going back and forth for a year of whether or not we were going to get

[00:18:20] another dog. We didn't know if we wanted her to have all of the attention and love that,

[00:18:25] or if we wanted to have a friend for her because whenever we go down to Donna and Chris's,

[00:18:30] she and Lily are just separable. Yeah. Best friends. So we've looked at a couple

[00:18:34] dogs and we've always said if we're going to get another dog, we want to make sure that it's

[00:18:37] perfect for Ari. It's not for us. I mean, of course, we want to like it also, but

[00:18:42] we want to make sure that Ari is comfortable. So we've had a couple of visits with other

[00:18:46] rescues and met a couple dogs and Ari just was not into it. They were too young. They were too

[00:18:53] poppy-ish, too much energy. And of course, Ari is kind of, we call it the old maid from

[00:18:57] time to time because she likes to chill out just for right after a wonderful first 10 years.

[00:19:04] But a couple weeks ago, my dear friend Jen and who was a good friend of Sue's now,

[00:19:08] who I went to. I was best friends with Jen growing up and during high school years,

[00:19:12] she runs a puppy sitting place up in a past Manchester. Heather is Finn and fur.

[00:19:22] Take a cool name. No. Anyway, we've always brought our dogs there. She posted something to

[00:19:26] us on Facebook a couple of weeks ago about a lab that was looking for a rescue

[00:19:31] and had been in a foster for several months. And we said, you know what? Let's go check it out. Jen

[00:19:36] was actually watching the dog. So we went and checked it out with Ari. They hit it off immediately.

[00:19:41] She is the most beautiful little thing. Her name is Miley. She's a lab mix. She's about one and a

[00:19:47] half. And the sad thing is she was actually born at the rescue facility.

[00:19:54] Oh, wow.

[00:19:55] A year and two years ago. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. The mother was brought in and had a litter of nine

[00:20:02] and she is one of two that had yet to be adopted in just two years. So she's been in a foster home

[00:20:09] for six months with an incredible person, Laura, here ever six months. And we had our Guchaday

[00:20:15] this past week. She's out of our house. She's a sweetheart. She's very nervous. She's very shy.

[00:20:21] But she's extremely loving and Aria and her just get along great. So we're very excited

[00:20:30] and we're going to give her the life that she deserves instead of being

[00:20:34] in different homes or shelters for her life to be here and we love her to death.

[00:20:40] Well, and here's the thing too that a lot of people don't realize. And I know this

[00:20:43] since my wife started volunteering for a rescue, the same one we got Isabella from.

[00:20:48] And that's that black dogs are usually among the last to be adopted

[00:20:55] for whatever reason. I'm not sure why it is. But you guys have given a sweet little black dog

[00:21:01] a home and Kelly and I couldn't be happier for you guys or for Miley. So she's come into a good

[00:21:07] home and she's going to have nothing but love for as long as she's with you guys.

[00:21:12] And I know that for a fact. It's funny. You've been in my house so you know

[00:21:14] that we have the open concept from the kitchen of the dining room into the living room.

[00:21:17] Yep. And this her safe place because she's still getting used to everything is the dining room.

[00:21:22] So she like walks around the dining room table like all day and she'll she'll she'll

[00:21:28] she'll start to she goes into the kitchen a little bit. She'll go into the living room

[00:21:31] a little bit. We've had her upstairs and she's been in here in the studio podcast studio office

[00:21:37] a couple of times we've actually coaxed her up. But her safe place right now is the dining.

[00:21:42] She's actually slept there both nights at her. At least on the dining rug.

[00:21:47] Eventually she'll come into the bedroom on the bed with us. We don't have any

[00:21:52] restrictions for our dogs there. Right. They're the family so they can be on the furniture and

[00:21:57] she's so cute. She the only thing I can describe it. And I just posted something on Facebook

[00:22:01] today so people can take a look and see her picture. Her ears look like bat wings

[00:22:07] when she has them fully extended. She's like that dog.

[00:22:12] What you need to do is capture some video of that and then post it as like an Instagram reel

[00:22:17] with the music from Batman that goes... I like that idea. I can do that.

[00:22:23] Thank you. Thank you. So yeah we're very happy. We're very excited. And Lily my sister's dog

[00:22:29] will be meeting her tomorrow. And I'm sure that's going to go well dude.

[00:22:33] Because she's very laid back as well. So yeah we're very excited to have a new member of

[00:22:38] the family. We've only had not had a dog once in our entire relationship. And that was when

[00:22:48] she had two dogs when we first started seeing each other. Max passed away fairly soon after

[00:22:54] we started dating and then Madeline passed away. And then there was like a month where

[00:23:00] we didn't have any dog. And then finally my dad who we got theory for when he was going

[00:23:05] through his cancer treatment said you know what take theory up to Maine be with the kids have a good

[00:23:08] life with kids and family. So that month was absolute hell. We could not stand it. We will never

[00:23:15] not have a dog again. Yeah. It's just we're dog people and so we're glad to have two again.

[00:23:21] We actually had three at one point then we had two then one now we're back up to two.

[00:23:25] So I don't think we're going to go to three again because that's a lot.

[00:23:28] But I could never foster either man. I could I would I don't I'll give them Laura and all the

[00:23:35] other fosters in the world hats off to you guys because I could never do it if I was a foster

[00:23:41] I'd probably own 600 dogs because I would never give them I'd never want to give them up.

[00:23:45] You hear about foster fails all the time and that's where the foster adopts the dog.

[00:23:49] Yes. And I totally understand I think it takes a special breed of person

[00:23:53] to foster a dog because they give them all this love and and you know acclimate them to an environment

[00:24:00] that is counter to what they've known and then they willingly say goodbye to them.

[00:24:05] Right. I'm like you I couldn't do it.

[00:24:08] But I couldn't do it and Laura actually told us that you know she like I said she's been with

[00:24:14] my league for six months and she actually said you know she felt good about everything with

[00:24:19] our talks and our visits but if we decided that we had not going to take her she was going to adopt

[00:24:26] she was okay so she would have been she would have been taken care of no matter what but

[00:24:30] now greedily she's ours and I'm very happy. Well that is awesome certainly a reason to celebrate.

[00:24:37] We probably should celebrate some friends of ours and do a little business with America

[00:24:42] and then we'll come back and talk about nothing how's that sound?

[00:24:44] I like that idea nothing is good. Your face is nothing.

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[00:26:46] Alabama. Sorry. That's a you know a door am I going to like you know Savannah where it's kind of like

[00:26:56] molasses dripping out of your mouth. I just got done watching North and South. Yes, I just got

[00:27:02] what I just got done watching North and South so I've got like Southern accent syndrome going on

[00:27:06] right now. Well you get on it not that that's a bad thing. You get on it and finish the

[00:27:10] office crying out loud. Here's the thing I don't I watch it alone. No, no, no here's the thing

[00:27:17] everybody knows that I stitch is a hobby. I've been doing it for 20 years. Whenever I'm going to be

[00:27:22] doing that I don't want to put on something that I have to pay attention to because I'm paying

[00:27:29] attention to what I'm working on so if I have something on that I've seen before and I'm watching

[00:27:35] it's easier for me to concentrate on the stitching. I'm dying over here the

[00:27:38] idea that you pay attention to anything is really kind of foreign. You've seen the fantastic work

[00:27:42] that I do. You have some of the fantastic work that I do. Did you imagine what that Delta would

[00:27:47] look like if I was watching the office? I think that it's probably very easy for you to follow

[00:27:55] a pattern and get into his own. I get that but you can't even pay attention when you're

[00:28:01] walking down the hallway. So, see I didn't say I didn't disagree with you.

[00:28:08] Good because there are witnesses. Yes, I do know I have to finish watching the office. I do.

[00:28:15] Yeah, you do. Well, it's my wife I think might murder you. Okay.

[00:28:20] Dude, you don't piss off a Boston girl. It's okay to not be afraid of me.

[00:28:26] You should be afraid of her. You're going to be a thousand miles away. What do I care?

[00:28:29] Dude, she can probably bench you. I'm not doubting that at all but from there it's going to be hard

[00:28:37] to do because I- Which means she will have no problem dragging your body into a place where

[00:28:42] nobody will find it. Sue always says that she's going to take my body up to northern Maine and

[00:28:46] hang it from a tree. Wow, this got dark. Yeah, I know right? What did Sue watch when you're not

[00:28:52] around? Like in one of those towns that doesn't have a name it's like a Borg designation. It's

[00:28:57] T77. That's what northern Maine is like. TK421, why don't you at your post?

[00:29:03] Yep, she said that once. I mean we'd only been going- we'd only been together for a year or

[00:29:07] something like that. She said that and I'm like, what? Her true colors came out when she

[00:29:14] finally realized what you were about. Yeah, it makes me- it's total tangent since I saw

[00:29:19] an eagle. It makes me think of one of our favorite quotes from my youngest Becca,

[00:29:26] my youngest daughter Becca. When she was a little kid- now let me set the stage. When we would be

[00:29:31] driving somewhere it was always Max behind me and Becca behind Sue and I always drive.

[00:29:38] For this time for whatever reason it was reversed. Becca was behind me and Becca was,

[00:29:43] I don't know, five, six, seven years, six years old at the most and she's kicking the back of

[00:29:48] my chair. She's kicking the back of my chair. And finally I said Becca, if you don't stop kicking

[00:29:56] the back of my chair I'm gonna stop this car, I'm gonna cut your legs off and I'm gonna hang them on

[00:30:03] the windshield wipers. And I'm looking at Sue and Sue's just like smirking and there's like

[00:30:10] just 20 seconds of silence then Becca goes, well if you do that you'll have to carry me around

[00:30:15] with my bloody legs. This got really dark. That's our favorite quote from her because she just-

[00:30:23] it was awesome. She stopped kicking. I should hope so. In fairness you are a big horror fan.

[00:30:35] I am, yes. I do like the whores. I haven't watched one in a long time but I do like them.

[00:30:40] I watch one every time I record with you. I walk right into that rake.

[00:30:48] There was one other Star Trek story this week that really kind of got

[00:30:54] Trek Twitter, I can't call it Trek X because that's just Trek Twitter into a bit of an uproar and

[00:30:59] that is that season two of Star Trek Prodigy has been released in French on the France.tv

[00:31:06] website. I saw that. Leading some people to believe whether it was a mistake or whether it was a new

[00:31:14] partnership or whatever, the story was leaked by one Star Trek site that we do not use for news

[00:31:21] because we think it's garbage and it has since at least been- I don't want to say semi-confirmed

[00:31:30] by the Hagemen's that it does appear to be some kind of release but they don't really have any

[00:31:34] information on it. Interesting. Yeah, so it's normally what happens is that when Paramount or

[00:31:45] when it was CBS struck up a partnership for distribution, it was announced and there was

[00:31:49] a press release that both parties involved in the transaction could send out to their

[00:31:55] viewership or to trade in the industry to announce the partnership for distribution

[00:32:01] and that did not happen in this case. There was one podcast which I believe is in French,

[00:32:09] I could be wrong, that gave an audio confirmation from somebody at France TV but

[00:32:17] I took the stance and the stance that a lot of people take as well until it's announced by

[00:32:21] Paramount. That means nothing because who knows who that person is. Right.

[00:32:28] So it's a really weird situation for once the US is not getting a Star Trek first and that's fine

[00:32:37] but it would have been nice if Paramount had had enough

[00:32:42] intelligence to actually announce the damn thing. Well, look at- I hate to speak

[00:32:48] you will but they were stupid enough to cancel it so are you surprised? I mean come on,

[00:32:53] I mean Prodigy is phenomenal. It is Star Trek in its truest form and some f-ing being counter

[00:33:01] decided that it wasn't worth it because it's a streaming service and they needed to clean up

[00:33:08] their bottom line so they act one of the most popular series that's been out there.

[00:33:12] It's just ludicrous. That's been always a source spot with me. I'm so glad that Netflix

[00:33:16] picked it up and that the incredible writing, animators, special effects, voiceover actors like

[00:33:23] our dear friend Bonnie will be able to see have their work from season two seen by everybody when

[00:33:31] it gets released on Netflix at some point but yeah that's- yeah. I can only hope they order a

[00:33:36] season three you know but here's the other thing too is that it doesn't appear that France is

[00:33:43] promoting it. Yeah, hasn't that- I mean if I hadn't seen just that I didn't really- I don't go on to X

[00:33:49] anymore because it's just a pile of crap but I did see something about it and I'm like oh that's

[00:33:54] really weird and I didn't dig any deeper into it. Yeah. But I haven't seen any major headlines

[00:34:00] about it anywhere either. I will say the same website that I criticized is the one that

[00:34:05] broke the story as far as I know they did have spoilers in the article with regard

[00:34:10] to episode names at least this is what I was told I didn't confirm it myself. At one point

[00:34:17] I believe the the Hagemen's were reaching out to other Twitter accounts asking them to take

[00:34:21] the story down until there was more information and this other website essentially didn't respond

[00:34:27] to the Hagemen's at all and just kept the story up. More class. They say they didn't

[00:34:31] ghost to them but they ghosted them. Yeah, that's too bad. We're looking forward to

[00:34:37] speaking to them at some point also. Yeah, we've talked to them- I've had several email

[00:34:42] exchanges with both of the Hagemen brothers and we're going to have them on at some point

[00:34:46] but we are going to be holding off until we do have that official Netflix release of

[00:34:52] season. We're going to have one talk all about all about Prodigy and all about their fandom which

[00:34:57] of course is huge so that'll be something to look forward to. I'm guessing it's probably not

[00:35:02] going to be until late this year if not 25 but that'll be great and I can't wait for season two.

[00:35:09] Season one was fantastic. I love season one it's infinitely rewatchable just like the rest of

[00:35:15] track and that's what tells me that it's amazing quite honestly. It was great because every time

[00:35:21] we've run into to Dan and Kevin Hagemen at a convention they have always stopped by,

[00:35:26] they've always said hi, we've gotten to the point where we get to give them grief and

[00:35:30] they give it back. You can tell they're fans, they're not just guys who produce

[00:35:37] insanely successful things. They're people, they're fans like we are and

[00:35:43] like every other fan they just want to share what they love about Star Trek and I think that's the

[00:35:47] best part. And I said it before one of the things that I love so much about quote-unquote

[00:35:52] new track and I'm not dogging or dissing legacy at all because I'm not the show legacy

[00:35:57] hopefully what happens but the old Star Trek that's one of the things that I love so much and

[00:36:02] I've said it several times. The people that are writing and running these shows,

[00:36:07] Harry and Alice is a perfect example. They're fans they love it. They want to make sure that

[00:36:12] it's the right stuff that we're seeing as fans and viewers of these series and

[00:36:18] they are no exception. They are huge fans of the Star Trek universe and it shows and season

[00:36:24] one was awesome and I just hope to God somehow John Noble is back.

[00:36:29] He's the best voice. I hope he's the best voice and I'll tell you what, one of the things that I'm

[00:36:35] always very sad that I didn't get to see is when we're in Vegas, we don't really have time to do

[00:36:40] go watch a lot of the things at the main stage. Yeah. Noble was at the convention two years ago

[00:36:47] when it was at the when it was a ballet and that's one thing that I wish I had been able

[00:36:53] to go to the main sitting area and watch him on stage talk. Just listening to his voice. He's

[00:36:58] like melted butter losing all over your body. He's awesome. There's a visual idea. I did not

[00:37:04] on purpose but yeah, I hope he's back. He's good. And here comes breakfast again. Hi.

[00:37:09] Hello breakfast. What are you doing there? I think of the Seinfeld episode when when Kramer like

[00:37:16] bathed in a hot tub of butter or something that like a turkey. Yeah. You know, it's really kind

[00:37:25] of tough and their days I appreciate what social media does for Trekkiks as a whole

[00:37:32] as a network and there are other days where I can't stay on social media. It's like, well,

[00:37:37] you guys are just marketing shields for CBS and not just us anyone who

[00:37:41] you know, that defends, you know, of the taking down stories about the prodigy season two release.

[00:37:50] And it's like we have been critical of CBS and Paramount so many times. We've talked about when

[00:37:56] we don't like things about particular episodes or particular episodes in general. And I'm going

[00:38:01] to come right out and say that since the merger, the the Faltaur pan, the refusion

[00:38:07] of CBS and Paramount nicely done. I like that. They clearly have their heads up their asses.

[00:38:12] Yeah. They don't know what they're doing. There's a difference between being critical,

[00:38:18] which we are, and respecting the IP, which we do. Right. Just because we respect the IP means

[00:38:24] we are going to do what they ask because we respect the IP unlike so many others that don't.

[00:38:32] So you can calling us, you know, shields for them is is BS because we respect the IP.

[00:38:39] But we have been very critical of some of the aspects and what you just said is very critical

[00:38:43] and it's also very true. It seems like the people that are making the decision right now

[00:38:47] having the slightest idea what Star Trek is or what has done for those company,

[00:38:53] both of them. And it's sad. Yeah, it's they don't I want to phrase this the right way.

[00:39:02] They didn't do a great job of promoting it. They did more than they done in the past

[00:39:08] with promoting Star Trek. But it seems like they never really understood the fandom. I'm not talking

[00:39:15] about licensing. I'm not talking about products. I'm talking about your sheer marketing. Right.

[00:39:21] It seems like they would market to all the wrong people. The one time I think they got it right

[00:39:26] was when they had Patrick Stewart come to STLV to announce that he was coming back as Picard.

[00:39:30] It didn't happen at a Comic Con. It didn't happen in a Wonder Con. It happened on Home

[00:39:35] Turf for Star Trek fans. Yeah. And it's still a moment that Star Trek fans talk about today.

[00:39:42] Present company included. Yeah. And I think it's just

[00:39:46] it's not great instead of, you know, there are tons of us out here, you know, who talk

[00:39:52] about Star Trek and YouTube shows about Star Trek and blog about Star Trek. And of podcasts

[00:39:58] who are essentially promoting their product for free. We don't get paid to do this.

[00:40:04] Certainly not by them. Not at all. And you would think they would make it easier

[00:40:11] for people to talk about it. Yes, they have given us access to their library of images

[00:40:17] for press releases. They've given us screeners to pre-advance episodes. That's really the

[00:40:24] extent of it. When it comes to we try to book talent for the first truck talks,

[00:40:30] we got such a hard time from them. And it's just it's unfortunate because ultimately

[00:40:36] we are doing their job. Right. I don't want to say for them because, you know, they do

[00:40:43] some of it. But we promote Star Trek with every single episode and they don't make it easy to

[00:40:52] to try to get guests. I don't think they understand how

[00:40:57] important thing and I'm not and I'm not patting ourselves on the back. I'm talking about as a

[00:41:02] whole how important podcasts for Star Trek are in terms of getting the word out there.

[00:41:09] Star Trek is probably one of the biggest categories for podcasts out of everything.

[00:41:15] I mean, you can go you can pull into a Google search for Star Trek podcast

[00:41:18] and you're going to get like 30 pages, if probably more. I mean, they're everywhere

[00:41:24] and you would think that they would make it a lot easier. I mean, just, you know, again,

[00:41:27] I don't want to be critical, but I will be a little bit. I'm I want to talk to the Hague.

[00:41:31] It's tomorrow. But the decision was made that it should wait till the release.

[00:41:37] By CBS PR. Yeah. By PR. We can talk. We don't have to talk about specific episodes of episode

[00:41:43] two. We can season two. We can talk about everything in season one and what their thought

[00:41:47] processes for some of the decisions that were made during that season. Yeah. And we should be

[00:41:52] clear the Hague men's didn't make that decision. Right, correct. It was it was paramount PR.

[00:41:56] Absolutely. Yeah. I think I think Dan, I would like drive up to the hamstrings.

[00:42:00] Talk. They probably would. Yeah.

[00:42:03] It's I understand that they want to do things the right way. They want to

[00:42:07] provide a bounce to certain things. And believe me, I understand that this is a

[00:42:11] first world problem. We are two middle age white dudes in New England, host in a podcast,

[00:42:18] whining about the fact that the studio doesn't treat us right. That's not really what we're doing.

[00:42:25] No, not at all. I know it seems that way. And in a sense, it kind of sounds that way.

[00:42:30] But it's just it's there's so much more they could do to make this franchise accessible

[00:42:38] to everybody and promote it to everybody. Then they're doing that waited until after Picard had

[00:42:49] already concluded to put Patrick Stewart in a major Super Bowl ad campaign,

[00:42:57] which I mean Picard can still be watched and so connection. But you'd think they would.

[00:43:03] I mean, he narrated some stuff before he was in one other ad campaign of theirs.

[00:43:08] You know, but that last ad campaign was probably the best of them. And Picard's not even on the air.

[00:43:17] Speaking of which, my brother was at episode 10 of Picard season three last week when I saw him

[00:43:23] and he has been loving it. He's really loved it. He's been he's not one to text a lot to me,

[00:43:29] but he's been texting me as he's been watching it with all these great comments and questions,

[00:43:33] stuff like that. So I said, dude, you ain't interfering for a major awesome time with episode 10.

[00:43:39] So good. Such a good season. Just absolutely incredible.

[00:43:44] You know what? You know what kind of surprises me? I'm on a tangent here for a little bit.

[00:43:49] I've had more than a number of people ask me, well, how's that going to work

[00:43:53] with you moving to North Carolina? Will you and Dan still be able to do trek geeks?

[00:43:59] And it's like, absolutely. You and I record on an online room

[00:44:06] and you are eight minutes away from my house right now. Right?

[00:44:09] Right. I guess we started.

[00:44:10] Yeah. Yeah, when we started trek geeks, you were two hours away in Maine.

[00:44:15] So for most of our interactions on the podcast, it has been in some sort of virtual recording

[00:44:19] studio. Yeah, this has been what? Like two? Maybe three times where we've been in the same

[00:44:25] room together. Maybe. I don't even think three, couple maybe two.

[00:44:29] There was the one we did in the basement at your sister's house?

[00:44:31] Yeah. There's the one we did at Northeast Trek Con.

[00:44:36] Yep. And then Vegas, so three. Three, yeah.

[00:44:39] Yeah, that's it out of 312 plus supplemental. A couple of Vegas ones. So technically four.

[00:44:46] Oh, true. Yeah. They weren't specific podcasts. They were just recordings of the panels that

[00:44:52] went in. Right. Yeah, I gotcha.

[00:44:54] Technically four out of 312. Yeah.

[00:44:58] So I guess this sets up the southern headquarters for trek geeks?

[00:45:05] There you go. Okay. I like that.

[00:45:07] In North Carolina?

[00:45:08] Is it considered the south, North Carolina?

[00:45:10] Yeah, it is.

[00:45:11] Okay. All right.

[00:45:13] I have to look up where the Mason-Dixon line is quite frankly.

[00:45:15] While you're doing that, speaking of conventions,

[00:45:18] we got Long Island coming up pretty soon, buddy.

[00:45:21] Yeah, baby.

[00:45:22] It's gonna be one of our first conventions on the East Coast

[00:45:26] in a long, long time. We talked about the Northeast one that we did a few years back, but

[00:45:33] man, I'm excited for this one. It's gonna be great.

[00:45:34] Good time.

[00:45:35] Yeah. North Carolina absolutely is south of the Mason-Dixon line.

[00:45:38] It is south? Okay. All right. Give you that.

[00:45:41] Yeah. We're gonna be together for a convention in New York,

[00:45:45] and we're gonna be having a great time.

[00:45:47] I'm looking forward to that. It's gonna be great.

[00:45:48] And I get to drive there. You still have to fly.

[00:45:50] It's gonna be weird to fly separately to Vegas.

[00:45:52] It is. It's gonna be very weird.

[00:45:54] Yep. I'll be god, it'll be so quiet.

[00:46:01] But I'll have a shorter flight than you will.

[00:46:04] Very much shorter, but I still think I'm getting in before you.

[00:46:06] I have a direct flight.

[00:46:08] You're a jerk.

[00:46:12] That's all right.

[00:46:14] Suck it.

[00:46:15] Yeah. And I will say this right now, I'm going to announce this and surprise you

[00:46:20] here as we're recording. I will not be going to any of the East Coast conventions that creation

[00:46:26] putting on this year, unfortunately. I know they're doing one in Jersey and one in New Orleans.

[00:46:33] Is that what the other one is? I forget where it is.

[00:46:34] I don't remember.

[00:46:35] I don't remember, but unfortunately, I will not be able to partake in those

[00:46:39] because of other things that I got going on this year with the misses.

[00:46:43] Well, the creation one is in November, I think.

[00:46:46] In Jersey?

[00:46:47] It's in November, yep.

[00:46:48] Yep.

[00:46:48] Correct.

[00:46:49] I...

[00:46:49] There's another one in September. I forget where that is.

[00:46:51] I can't go to that one anyway, but it's at the same place where I went to the first

[00:46:56] office convention.

[00:46:57] Oh, okay.

[00:46:59] Which is kind of cool.

[00:47:02] It's a small venue.

[00:47:04] I imagine that the stage and the dealer's room will be all in the same area.

[00:47:09] What's going on with creation?

[00:47:10] All of a sudden, having Star Trek conventions again.

[00:47:13] I know. Yeah, that one's November 8th to 10th.

[00:47:15] Okay.

[00:47:16] They've done other shows there and they have one in May for something else.

[00:47:20] It just says creation in Jersey.

[00:47:23] September 1st, Washington DC.

[00:47:26] Yeah, but that's not it.

[00:47:27] That's not it.

[00:47:28] Yep.

[00:47:29] Dunno.

[00:47:30] There's one in Nashville in September.

[00:47:33] Nashville, that's the one.

[00:47:34] Okay.

[00:47:34] I said New Orleans, but yeah, Nashville.

[00:47:36] Yep.

[00:47:37] Yeah, interesting.

[00:47:38] That's like an eight-hour drive for me,

[00:47:40] so I'm not going to that one.

[00:47:41] Yeah, yep.

[00:47:42] So for all you people on the East Coast,

[00:47:43] unfortunately we won't be there.

[00:47:44] We'll be there in spirit, but not this year.

[00:47:49] No, not this year and that's okay.

[00:47:51] Yep.

[00:47:51] We're in Vegas.

[00:47:52] We'll be in Vegas.

[00:47:53] I don't think we'll be expanding to a bunch of conventions.

[00:47:56] Yeah.

[00:47:56] It's hard.

[00:47:58] It is hard because life.

[00:48:01] Life, work.

[00:48:02] Work.

[00:48:03] Family.

[00:48:04] Wanting to stay married, that kind of thing.

[00:48:06] That's a biggie.

[00:48:07] Yeah.

[00:48:08] Kind of an important one right there.

[00:48:10] At least in the top three.

[00:48:11] If the conventions are closer to us,

[00:48:13] like say if there's one in Boston.

[00:48:14] Ashwa.

[00:48:16] Boston's easier to do.

[00:48:18] Boston is very easy.

[00:48:19] Yeah, that would be doable.

[00:48:20] Or if there's one in Raleigh.

[00:48:22] Yeah, true.

[00:48:24] You could very easily fly down and stay at the house.

[00:48:26] Yep.

[00:48:27] We could do that one quite easily.

[00:48:29] Yeah, I mean Boston, yeah.

[00:48:31] You fly in, stay at a house and we could drive

[00:48:32] to and from each day.

[00:48:33] We don't have to be down there the whole day.

[00:48:35] Right.

[00:48:36] Yeah, it's funny.

[00:48:37] But I can't see really doing much beyond what we're already doing.

[00:48:44] I imagine there'll be another Trek-Wong Island next year.

[00:48:46] Happy to do that one.

[00:48:49] But I think Vegas and Trek-Wong Island are probably

[00:48:52] our commitments for the foreseeable future.

[00:48:55] Yeah, yeah.

[00:48:58] Speaking of travel.

[00:49:00] Let's segue into it.

[00:49:01] See this is great about this episode.

[00:49:02] We need to segue into whatever the hell we want.

[00:49:04] I might be showing my ugly mug at a whole foco in person this summer.

[00:49:12] Oh yeah, at a Hollywood food coalition.

[00:49:14] Yeah, Sue and I are going out to Disneyland this summer.

[00:49:19] She said let's pick some place to go.

[00:49:21] This time you have to pick.

[00:49:22] Let's go somewhere besides Disney World.

[00:49:24] So I picked Disneyland.

[00:49:26] You're an idiot.

[00:49:27] Well, there's a reason we might be able to meet some friends out there.

[00:49:29] So if they're able to go that'd be great.

[00:49:32] If not, we're still gonna have a good time.

[00:49:33] And I've already told Billingsley and I'm planning on seeing him

[00:49:37] and maybe going to WholeFoCo to say hi to everybody and take a look

[00:49:41] and maybe spend some time helping him out a little bit.

[00:49:48] I was just gonna say you better take her to Musso and Friends.

[00:49:50] Yeah, we've already talked about that.

[00:49:52] There's also a place, I don't even know the name of it

[00:49:54] and I'm sorry I don't have it.

[00:49:55] There's this person on Instagram.

[00:49:57] It's this candy company that's outside of the LA area.

[00:50:01] And it shows how this guy makes candy cane making for like 50 years.

[00:50:05] And it's incredible to watch.

[00:50:08] Oh, wow.

[00:50:09] And I want to go to that candy store and buy stuff because it looks fantastic.

[00:50:12] Yeah, we want to do that.

[00:50:14] Hopefully they'll be able to say hi to Champion.

[00:50:17] So we should go to us.

[00:50:18] You should go to Scum and Villainy, the Star Wars theme.

[00:50:20] Oh yeah. Yep.

[00:50:21] Yep. Do that.

[00:50:22] But we are gonna be, we are actually gonna go to Disneyland.

[00:50:25] We've been out there and stayed at a Disneyland resort

[00:50:28] when we went to go see Dancing with the Stars several years ago,

[00:50:31] but we didn't go into the parks.

[00:50:32] But we're going into the parks this time.

[00:50:34] We're gonna go into Disneyland one day.

[00:50:36] We're gonna go to California Adventure.

[00:50:38] Two of the days were there.

[00:50:39] And so we're looking forward to that.

[00:50:40] I'm really looking forward to going to the Marvel campus.

[00:50:45] I'll have my...

[00:50:46] Oh, The Avengers.

[00:50:47] Yeah, The Avengers Campus.

[00:50:48] I'll have my Thanos tattoo shown proudly that day.

[00:50:53] I would really love to see Avengers Campus.

[00:50:57] It's not gonna happen unless I go to California.

[00:50:59] And that's not happening in the foreseeable future.

[00:51:01] I still haven't seen Star Wars, Galaxy's Edge in Florida.

[00:51:04] My wife went before the pandemic.

[00:51:08] I'm gonna be honest.

[00:51:08] I love Star Wars.

[00:51:10] I love Star Wars.

[00:51:11] Galaxy's Edge is not a big deal to me.

[00:51:14] It's basically just, it's just the immersion into that environment.

[00:51:19] There are two rides.

[00:51:20] The Millennium Falcon ride is okay.

[00:51:23] The rise of the resistance is fantastic.

[00:51:25] But other than that, it just stores

[00:51:27] and the look of things.

[00:51:30] Gotcha.

[00:51:31] You wanna...

[00:51:32] I mean, if they were to create a whole park that had the environment

[00:51:37] plus all the thrill rides, that would be great.

[00:51:39] And that's what Disney has to do.

[00:51:40] They have to make not just sections of A park, a certain thing.

[00:51:43] They have to make A,

[00:51:44] they should make an Avengers park, I think.

[00:51:47] They really should.

[00:51:48] Something like that.

[00:51:48] I agree.

[00:51:49] I think they're talking about maybe doing a

[00:51:53] Billins Park is a rumor of the new park

[00:51:55] that they're gonna do because they have announced

[00:51:57] that they are gonna do another park.

[00:51:58] But I'm hoping it's something like Billins.

[00:52:00] But we'll see.

[00:52:01] But I can't wait to be on Avengers Campus.

[00:52:03] Great.

[00:52:03] I wish they could do Avengers Campus in Florida,

[00:52:05] but they can't.

[00:52:06] Yeah.

[00:52:07] Because of the agreement with Universal.

[00:52:08] Yep.

[00:52:09] Yeah, that's just absolutely ludicrous.

[00:52:11] Yep.

[00:52:12] But I get it.

[00:52:13] I get it.

[00:52:14] That's what happens when Disney starts buying everything.

[00:52:16] True.

[00:52:17] Yep.

[00:52:17] So yeah, I got my Thanos tattoo ready for that.

[00:52:19] I also got another tattoo a week or so ago.

[00:52:22] I finally got lost forever etched on my body.

[00:52:26] That's too bad.

[00:52:27] I know.

[00:52:27] I knew you were gonna say that, but it came out fantastic.

[00:52:30] And you know what?

[00:52:31] It's amazing.

[00:52:32] I've got the amazing tattoo that's lost.

[00:52:33] Yeah.

[00:52:34] The first one I ever did.

[00:52:35] My Star Trek, The Beast Base 9.

[00:52:38] And then one of the guys in Hudson at the Inc Club did Thanos,

[00:52:43] and he did a fantastic job.

[00:52:44] But my Jaws tattoo and my Lost tattoo were done by Jay's daughter,

[00:52:50] who is only an apprentice.

[00:52:52] But oh my God, her work is just phenomenal.

[00:52:55] She does the best lines I have ever seen.

[00:52:57] It's incredible how great a job she does.

[00:53:00] So I'm very happy with my Lost tattoo.

[00:53:02] It was not comfortable, dude.

[00:53:05] I'll tell you what.

[00:53:05] This is my fifth one, and it was on my calf.

[00:53:09] And that's one of the most uncomfortable areas to get one.

[00:53:11] And they ain't lying because that sucked.

[00:53:14] It was three plus hours, and it was awful.

[00:53:18] I did not love that at all.

[00:53:20] And it's big too.

[00:53:21] So.

[00:53:22] The worst one for me was the forearm.

[00:53:24] Okay.

[00:53:25] Just because the skin is so thin there.

[00:53:26] Yeah.

[00:53:28] But I can believe that the calf hurt.

[00:53:31] I would have thought that that wouldn't, because it's because it's meaty.

[00:53:34] It's meaty.

[00:53:34] So I'm like, okay, maybe that shouldn't hurt as much.

[00:53:36] But no, it was not great.

[00:53:39] By that last half hour of three plus hours, I'm like, oh my God, hurry up.

[00:53:44] Just get it done.

[00:53:45] I'm willing to bet it hurt as much as your face.

[00:53:49] No, I think that hurts a lot more.

[00:53:51] That's true.

[00:53:51] That is true.

[00:53:52] That's good.

[00:53:52] Good.

[00:53:53] Congratulations.

[00:53:55] Thank you.

[00:53:55] Thank you.

[00:53:55] You're funny and you can add.

[00:53:58] So, so Kelly and I were driving back.

[00:54:02] We dropped our car off to get service today.

[00:54:04] Oh.

[00:54:04] I don't know how we got on the subject, but we got on the subject of Easter Seals

[00:54:08] because Easter is this weekend.

[00:54:09] True.

[00:54:10] Here in the United States.

[00:54:11] I don't know if it's that way because I'm not religious.

[00:54:14] And we're talking about it's like, well, we have no idea what Easter Seals does.

[00:54:20] And so she looked it up and while she was looking it up, I said, you know, as a kid,

[00:54:25] I thought that it was a day that they dressed seals up for Easter instead of like the Easter bunny.

[00:54:33] And she just started laughing so hard.

[00:54:34] She goes, oh my God, that's so wholesome.

[00:54:38] But as a kid, that's what I thought.

[00:54:40] It's like, oh, Easter Seals is where, you know, like sometimes you got reindeer for Christmas.

[00:54:44] Yeah.

[00:54:44] You know, you get whatever you get.

[00:54:47] Turkey's for Thanksgiving.

[00:54:49] Thank you.

[00:54:49] Turkey's for Thanksgiving.

[00:54:50] Seals for Easter.

[00:54:51] I thought that, you know, it's where we, you know.

[00:54:53] I love that.

[00:54:54] I dressed seals up for Easter, but I was young and I didn't understand how I know.

[00:55:00] But yeah, I felt kind of dumb.

[00:55:05] I actually love that idea.

[00:55:06] Now I just want to go dress up seals.

[00:55:08] I love seals.

[00:55:08] I've always loved seals.

[00:55:10] So I would love to dress them up in some little funny years, little suits,

[00:55:15] little baths like under flipper.

[00:55:18] Like go walk around.

[00:55:20] Sea world that should do that.

[00:55:24] So for those who don't know, Easter Seals provides life changing disability and community services,

[00:55:35] you know, leading the way for inclusion and as they say, what they call it full equity.

[00:55:41] They say together we're empowering people with disabilities, families and communities

[00:55:44] to be full and equal participants in society.

[00:55:47] So certainly a decent mission.

[00:55:50] I've never really known much beyond today, but apparently it has nothing to do with

[00:55:57] seals being dressed up for Easter.

[00:55:59] I think we should start a letter writing campaign to them

[00:56:02] and say that their mascot should be a seal dressed up.

[00:56:08] So like an Easter bonnet or a suit with lots of pastel colors?

[00:56:14] I like that idea.

[00:56:14] I think that's a great idea.

[00:56:16] The pastel colored suit with a little little batch basket

[00:56:21] with little grass coming out of it.

[00:56:23] Should there be eggs on it?

[00:56:24] Eggs in it, yeah.

[00:56:25] The seal would probably eat the eggs.

[00:56:28] It's weird.

[00:56:29] Maybe some fish.

[00:56:31] Sweet tart chicks.

[00:56:34] That's oddly specific.

[00:56:36] That's because I really want some, but I'm not eating sweets these days.

[00:56:40] I've had the opposite problem.

[00:56:44] Yeah.

[00:56:47] You know, they say buying a house is stressful.

[00:56:50] Yeah.

[00:56:50] I have not felt an ounce of stress in this entire project.

[00:56:55] That's good.

[00:56:56] That means it's the right thing, man.

[00:56:57] It makes me wonder if I'm doing it wrong.

[00:56:59] No, not at all.

[00:57:01] As you know, we had a little bit of stress when we did our move.

[00:57:03] Remember the day we were driving to work?

[00:57:05] My wife called because the ceiling in the kitchen was collapsing

[00:57:08] because water leaked in and we were unaware?

[00:57:10] Oh my God.

[00:57:11] But people don't have to, I don't think you have to worry about it.

[00:57:13] You don't have to worry about any of that.

[00:57:14] That's part of the reason why you're not stressed.

[00:57:15] I'll tell you right now is because you're not selling where you live right now.

[00:57:20] You're just leaving.

[00:57:22] That's a huge part of it.

[00:57:23] Okay.

[00:57:24] So I think that might be why you're feeling the way you are, which is great.

[00:57:27] I think that's fantastic.

[00:57:29] You should not have stress in something that's such a big thing

[00:57:32] and it's such a positive change for me, because you're leaving.

[00:57:35] But for you, because you're going to be having your dream house.

[00:57:39] You know what I'm saying?

[00:57:39] You've always got to punch that in there, don't you?

[00:57:41] Yeah.

[00:57:42] Use the face things.

[00:57:42] I'm going to use that.

[00:57:43] Because you're leaving.

[00:57:45] Your face is part of the show.

[00:57:46] I'm going to miss you so much and you don't even know.

[00:57:49] I know.

[00:57:51] I know.

[00:57:53] You know what's so great?

[00:57:54] You believe that.

[00:57:58] Just kidding, I'm going to hate you.

[00:58:01] I'm not going to be able to come over and say, hey, do something.

[00:58:06] All those times we do it.

[00:58:07] Yeah, all those times we do it when you like come over

[00:58:08] and I give you something and you give me something.

[00:58:11] Let's be clear.

[00:58:12] We exchange items.

[00:58:14] I just want to, it sounded a lot dirtier the way Dan said it.

[00:58:16] Well, that's because you're big.

[00:58:19] Wow.

[00:58:20] You're disgusting.

[00:58:23] You woke up angry today.

[00:58:26] Oh, actually, I'm in a great mood.

[00:58:28] If I had your face, I'd be angry too.

[00:58:30] Oh, there it is.

[00:58:31] That's three.

[00:58:32] One, two, three.

[00:58:33] That's a trifecta.

[00:58:35] It's a hat trick where I come from.

[00:58:36] All gentré.

[00:58:38] What?

[00:58:39] No, not at all.

[00:58:40] I was pretending I could speak in that language and I really can't.

[00:58:42] You butchered it quite frankly.

[00:58:44] I did.

[00:58:45] That's okay.

[00:58:46] What don't I butcher when it comes to talking or typing or reading?

[00:58:53] Am I right?

[00:58:54] Oh, I am not questioning the veracity of your claims.

[00:58:58] It's funny.

[00:58:59] I just wanted to say the one thing, but then I'm like, no,

[00:59:01] I screw that up too.

[00:59:02] No, I screw that up too also.

[00:59:03] So yeah, there was three things there.

[00:59:04] So I have three now too.

[00:59:06] So you have three insults to me and I have three insults to me.

[00:59:10] That's a good day where I come from.

[00:59:13] That's a good day.

[00:59:14] Good day.

[00:59:15] That's a good day.

[00:59:16] Eight shoes.

[00:59:16] It's so much.

[00:59:18] I got something else I'm very excited for that Star Trek related.

[00:59:20] What's up?

[00:59:21] I got the email yesterday and I have since pressed that button.

[00:59:25] My X06 Constable Odo will be coming very soon.

[00:59:30] I pulled the trigger on it and I can't wait to get it.

[00:59:33] And now I even though they're so expensive,

[00:59:35] but now I'm kicking myself or not getting the other deep space nine ones

[00:59:38] that are already sold out.

[00:59:40] I should have the whole crew, but...

[00:59:44] I've not bought one of the X06 collectibles.

[00:59:46] They're so nice.

[00:59:47] Not because they don't like them.

[00:59:48] It's just because they've been at a price point that...

[00:59:51] They're insane.

[00:59:51] I'm working toward buying a house and it's not something I go,

[00:59:56] honey, look what I bought for $250.

[00:59:57] Yeah, exactly.

[00:59:58] Yeah.

[00:59:59] So once they're gone, they're gone?

[01:00:02] As far as I know, I'm going to their website right now

[01:00:05] and just to give you an idea, sold out ones.

[01:00:09] And they say sold out there.

[01:00:10] They don't say they're coming back, but Cork is sold out.

[01:00:14] Shran, Archer, Chacote, Seven of Nine, Data, Locutus.

[01:00:22] Let's see what else we got.

[01:00:23] Cisco, Kolenar Spock, Tuvok, Janeway, Mirror Spock,

[01:00:28] the Doctor from Voyager and Admiral Kirk from TMP are all sold out

[01:00:34] and they have never brought any of them back.

[01:00:37] Wow.

[01:00:38] Yeah.

[01:00:39] I mean, and some of these...

[01:00:40] That's a little mind blowing.

[01:00:41] It's the detail on these things are just absolutely amazing.

[01:00:44] So I can't get Cork and Cisco,

[01:00:46] which I would love to have both of us going to do the whole crew

[01:00:49] because they have...

[01:00:49] Kira is available right now.

[01:00:51] It is not sold out.

[01:00:53] She's not sold out.

[01:00:54] Bashir is coming.

[01:00:55] You can put a pre-order on that right now too.

[01:00:57] So but I'm figuring, you know, Odo's my man.

[01:01:00] He's always been my favorite character.

[01:01:01] He'd be the person I would most want to hang out with

[01:01:03] in the Star Trek universe.

[01:01:04] I couldn't say no to getting Cosimo Odo.

[01:01:06] Nealix is pre-order, Rowe is pre-order,

[01:01:09] Strange New World, Spock and Pike are pre-order.

[01:01:12] And I'll tell you what, recently Todd Stashwick posted on his Instagram

[01:01:16] that Exo6 came over to his table at a convention recently

[01:01:19] and gave him a prototype of Shaw and it is incredible.

[01:01:26] That might be one.

[01:01:27] I might pull the trigger on that one because it is...

[01:01:30] I love that character so much and it looks so good.

[01:01:33] So people check out Todd's Instagram for the video of it.

[01:01:36] It's really...

[01:01:37] It's really...

[01:01:38] They do great work.

[01:01:39] I might in theory pull the trigger if they ever do it for regular TOS Spock

[01:01:46] because they've only done two mirror figures.

[01:01:50] I have both of my Asulu and Spock.

[01:01:51] Those are the two that I've got.

[01:01:52] That's it.

[01:01:53] You think they would have done some of the regular ones first?

[01:01:55] Yeah.

[01:01:55] Yep.

[01:01:56] But I might pull the trigger for Nimoy Spock once he's...

[01:02:02] Regular Spock once he's available just because...

[01:02:04] It's Spock.

[01:02:05] Yeah, it's Spock and Leonard to me has always been the heart and soul of Star Trek.

[01:02:11] Yeah.

[01:02:12] It's interesting that they came out with Kolanar Spock from TMP before they came out with TOS Spock.

[01:02:18] In Chicago we saw a display of the ones that they were working on and I told you

[01:02:22] if they ever do release Wheelchair Pike from TOS, I'll grab that one because that one's really good.

[01:02:29] We'll see.

[01:02:30] I see that Disco Bones is on the radar.

[01:02:33] Disco Bones, that's with the beard?

[01:02:35] That's awesome.

[01:02:36] If you look at their image for the motion picture and click into the page,

[01:02:40] the header shows the X06 figure for Disco Bones.

[01:02:44] Oh my God, that's great.

[01:02:46] I love it.

[01:02:47] That's great.

[01:02:48] They do good...

[01:02:49] But you're right.

[01:02:51] I'm not trying to be mean.

[01:02:54] It's an action figure and it's over $200.

[01:02:58] It's a lot.

[01:02:59] That's an expensive toy.

[01:03:02] They do great work, but ouch, just ouch.

[01:03:07] Yeah.

[01:03:07] So I imagine I have some time.

[01:03:11] I would imagine that regular TNG Picard would go fast.

[01:03:15] They put out more Voyager figures than they have really any other series and that's great.

[01:03:20] Don't get me wrong, but I would want Picard before I'd want Chakotay.

[01:03:26] I think they've only done Saru for Discovery.

[01:03:30] Akujimoya.

[01:03:31] And they also did some lower or doing some lower decks ones.

[01:03:34] Then those ones for me...

[01:03:37] They have Commander Burnham for...

[01:03:39] Oh, they do have Burnham?

[01:03:40] Okay.

[01:03:40] Yeah.

[01:03:41] Not Captain, but Commander in the blue uniform.

[01:03:45] Oh, okay.

[01:03:46] I don't even know if...

[01:03:47] Oh yeah, there she is.

[01:03:48] Hi.

[01:03:49] Okay.

[01:03:49] It's available.

[01:03:50] It's available to purchase right now.

[01:03:53] There you go.

[01:03:54] I like her hair now than that one.

[01:03:55] That it.

[01:03:56] We're looking at the images right now.

[01:03:58] I agree.

[01:03:59] I don't have an interest in the lower decks ones.

[01:04:02] No, I don't either.

[01:04:03] Because I mean they're cool, but I don't think I need a Badgey X06.

[01:04:10] No, not at all.

[01:04:12] Nope.

[01:04:13] Sharan looks awesome.

[01:04:14] If I didn't even know that it got released,

[01:04:16] that might have been one I would have got because I just love Jeff so much.

[01:04:18] So great and everything he does.

[01:04:20] Yeah.

[01:04:20] But yeah.

[01:04:21] So yeah.

[01:04:21] Okay.

[01:04:21] So that's X06.

[01:04:23] Today they get some free plugs from the Trek Geeks podcast.

[01:04:26] I know you think that we might get them to advertise on this garbage podcast.

[01:04:31] I got an idea for them right now.

[01:04:32] What's up?

[01:04:33] Dylan Danfig.

[01:04:35] Get them on the phone.

[01:04:38] Five bucks each.

[01:04:39] No.

[01:04:41] No, we pay people to take them.

[01:04:43] Yeah, you get what you pay for.

[01:04:46] Wow.

[01:04:47] Before I move, I have to come over with my green screen and set it up in your garage

[01:04:54] because I have an idea for our Trek Long Island panel.

[01:04:59] Okay.

[01:05:00] That's all I'm going to say.

[01:05:02] All right.

[01:05:02] That's all I can say.

[01:05:04] Okay.

[01:05:04] Right now we are scheduled or it is tentatively scheduled that we have a panel at Trek Long

[01:05:12] Island.

[01:05:13] That's all we can say.

[01:05:14] Right.

[01:05:15] And that's all we're going to say.

[01:05:16] You know me, I like to do promotion for these things.

[01:05:18] You do.

[01:05:19] You absolutely do.

[01:05:20] So I have a very specific idea that will involve setting up the green screen in your

[01:05:28] garage, a couple of lights and ticking some photos with my cell phone.

[01:05:35] Okay.

[01:05:35] I like it.

[01:05:37] We'll do it.

[01:05:37] I'll approve it.

[01:05:39] I'll write that.

[01:05:39] Talk to the boss.

[01:05:41] I'll write that check.

[01:05:44] I'm getting paid?

[01:05:45] No, no, no, no, no.

[01:05:46] I'm getting paid.

[01:05:47] You're renting my garage so I'm paying myself.

[01:05:50] Yeah, but I'm doing all the labor.

[01:05:52] That's your problem.

[01:05:54] Wow.

[01:05:56] Let's see how it is.

[01:05:56] So you're going to pay yourself first like always.

[01:06:00] That's what happens when you write the checks, baby.

[01:06:03] Yeah, all it's 15 cents goes a long way.

[01:06:11] Yeah, I was going to quote that for others, but I'm breaking neck and cashing check.

[01:06:19] It's the fucking catalina wine mixer.

[01:06:23] Careful, your mic.

[01:06:25] I know that was going to do that.

[01:06:26] I tried to pull back a little bit.

[01:06:27] That's probably one of my favorite scenes of the whole movie.

[01:06:30] You overloaded your mic so much that it cut out your audio in the recording session.

[01:06:35] Wonderful.

[01:06:36] Yeah, there we go.

[01:06:37] You don't have to go across the room and do it.

[01:06:39] You're welcome.

[01:06:40] So go across the room and do it right now.

[01:06:43] Do it?

[01:06:43] I can't.

[01:06:45] I don't want to scare the puppy.

[01:06:47] You're an ass.

[01:06:50] It definitely tagging this one as explicit.

[01:06:52] This was fun.

[01:06:54] Was it?

[01:06:54] We should do this once a year.

[01:06:57] I have just an outtake episode of us talking about nothing.

[01:07:05] Were you doing Seinfeld?

[01:07:06] Is that what that was?

[01:07:07] Yeah, it was terrible.

[01:07:08] I know it was because Seinfeld's the terrible show.

[01:07:11] No, it's not.

[01:07:12] I do not think that show holds up at all.

[01:07:14] I think Frees Company holds up better than Seinfeld.

[01:07:16] I think that Seinfeld holds up better than Friends.

[01:07:21] I agree with that.

[01:07:22] But I've never been a huge fan of the show.

[01:07:26] It's got its moments, but I've never been.

[01:07:28] You know me.

[01:07:30] I used to not like Seinfeld at all.

[01:07:32] And then we started watching things during the pandemic.

[01:07:36] And what do you watch when you feel like you've watched everything?

[01:07:39] Right.

[01:07:39] You watch things that maybe you wouldn't normally watch.

[01:07:41] So I watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, which I love.

[01:07:44] I'm going to start watching that.

[01:07:45] I watched Seinfeld, which I really kind of like.

[01:07:47] Yeah.

[01:07:47] And I watched Kirby or Enthusiasm,

[01:07:49] which I think is one of the funniest shows ever done.

[01:07:51] It by the creator of Seinfeld.

[01:07:53] We're watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine right now.

[01:07:55] That is fantastic.

[01:07:56] We watched that during the pandemic too.

[01:07:57] Oh my God, it is hysterical.

[01:07:58] I love it.

[01:07:59] Also last night we started watching Only Murders in the Building.

[01:08:02] That's good.

[01:08:03] And it's one episode in and love it.

[01:08:06] So yeah.

[01:08:07] You know, I had no concept of who Selena Gomez was before Only Murders in the Building.

[01:08:14] And I just now sort of get this.

[01:08:15] I didn't know she sang.

[01:08:16] Oh, OK.

[01:08:17] Oh, yeah.

[01:08:17] I thought she was just an actress.

[01:08:18] You know me.

[01:08:19] I got some of her.

[01:08:20] I had no idea.

[01:08:22] But she's a remarkably talented person.

[01:08:25] I had no idea she's wonderful in the show.

[01:08:28] I haven't heard much of her music, but she does have a very, very talented voice.

[01:08:32] Yeah, she does.

[01:08:33] And Steve Martin, I've been a fan of Steve Martin since the early Saturday Night Live days

[01:08:37] when he would be host.

[01:08:39] It's hard to believe.

[01:08:40] I was reading an article about him last night.

[01:08:42] There's a documentary that just came out on Apple TV about him, two-parter.

[01:08:47] One's called Pass, one's called Present.

[01:08:48] He's 75.

[01:08:50] Yeah.

[01:08:50] And you just think, wow, we're getting old.

[01:08:55] I can tell you Marty Short is my favorite part of Only Murders in the Building because

[01:08:58] I've always been a big Marty Short film.

[01:09:00] And he's 70.

[01:09:02] He was born in 50.

[01:09:03] So he's 74.

[01:09:04] Did you see the photo of Ernie Hudson with Paul Rudd at the latest Ghostbusters frozen

[01:09:12] empire or whatever it's called?

[01:09:13] No.

[01:09:14] He's 78 and the dude is jacked.

[01:09:16] He looks like he's probably 55 or 60.

[01:09:18] He's 78?

[01:09:19] Yeah.

[01:09:20] Ernie Hudson?

[01:09:21] Yeah.

[01:09:21] I'm looking at the picture right now.

[01:09:23] I would never in a thousand years thought he was 70.

[01:09:25] He's in the black t-shirt, right?

[01:09:26] Yeah.

[01:09:27] He looks like he's like 40.

[01:09:30] Yeah.

[01:09:30] That's amazing.

[01:09:31] If people say Paul Rudd doesn't age.

[01:09:33] Yeah, I'll tell you what.

[01:09:35] I have not seen it.

[01:09:36] It's not cut and great reviews.

[01:09:39] But I'm sure it's something that I'll watch.

[01:09:41] I haven't seen the first new one after life.

[01:09:44] I haven't seen any of the new ones.

[01:09:46] Yeah.

[01:09:47] I'll tell you what.

[01:09:48] It's not often that Sue and I will stop a movie.

[01:09:52] We stopped the Ghostbusters one with the lady leads and the guy who played Thor.

[01:10:01] It was awful.

[01:10:02] I did not care for it at all.

[01:10:06] I didn't watch it because it didn't look funny in the trailer.

[01:10:08] It wasn't.

[01:10:09] And what we saw wasn't funny.

[01:10:12] I mean, like I said, there's only a couple of movies that we've done that.

[01:10:15] One of our favorite go-to movies when we just want to put something on that we've seen a lot

[01:10:20] is the original John Carpenter's The Fog.

[01:10:23] It's campy.

[01:10:25] It's got funny parts.

[01:10:29] It's something that we have just loved for years and years.

[01:10:34] And they made a remake of it.

[01:10:37] I'm not sure when the remake came out.

[01:10:39] Let me check right now.

[01:10:41] Actually, no, I can't look at it because I actually removed it off my Plex server.

[01:10:44] The first one came out in 1980.

[01:10:46] And of course, Adrian Barbosa is the original.

[01:10:48] So why would you not love it?

[01:10:49] Exactly.

[01:10:50] But we stopped the fog remake 20 minutes in and we're like, this is one of the worst movies ever made.

[01:10:56] For people that think that we don't like Ghostbusters because we didn't like a movie

[01:11:00] with women leads, I'm going to say bullshit.

[01:11:02] I loved the Barbie movie.

[01:11:05] And I loved Bridesmaids, which many of those same women are in.

[01:11:09] I have loved plenty of movies that have featured female leads.

[01:11:13] And it's just that Ghostbusters didn't look funny to me.

[01:11:15] Absolutely.

[01:11:16] And I actually was hesitant to say it because I don't want people saying, oh, you just don't like

[01:11:21] that's bullshit.

[01:11:23] It's just not a well done movie, especially if you're fans of the original Ghostbusters.

[01:11:28] Starring Ron Jeremy with a cameo at the end.

[01:11:30] I'm just going to point that out there.

[01:11:33] But you didn't know that, did you?

[01:11:35] You didn't did you?

[01:11:35] Did you know that?

[01:11:36] No, I didn't care.

[01:11:37] No, I didn't care.

[01:11:37] It's actually in it.

[01:11:38] I'm going to go with an unpopular take.

[01:11:41] Oh, not a fan of Ghostbusters.

[01:11:43] No, no, no, no, no.

[01:11:45] I don't think Bill Murray is funny and I don't think he's ever been funny.

[01:11:49] I don't think that's a bad take at all.

[01:11:52] I don't disagree with you.

[01:11:54] A lot of people love Bill Murray.

[01:11:56] They think, you know, he's eclectic.

[01:11:58] He's weird.

[01:12:01] He's Bill Murray and everything he's in.

[01:12:04] And every story about a movie being produced with him, nobody knows if he's ever going

[01:12:11] to show up to set.

[01:12:12] And when he's there, whether or not he's going to be a complete tool bag.

[01:12:15] Right.

[01:12:15] Yeah.

[01:12:16] No, I don't disagree with you on that at all.

[01:12:19] There are other people in Ghostbusters who I like.

[01:12:21] So I think Ghostbusters is funny despite Bill Murray.

[01:12:24] Yeah.

[01:12:27] So there you have it.

[01:12:29] Knowing that he's in, I think because I think he's in Frozen Empire.

[01:12:32] And he was in the first, he was in afterlife also.

[01:12:34] Oh, was I?

[01:12:35] Yeah.

[01:12:35] I have no interest really.

[01:12:39] Egon was my favorite character.

[01:12:40] Yeah.

[01:12:41] I'll see him.

[01:12:42] I'll see it at some point.

[01:12:43] It's not on my list.

[01:12:44] I'll probably finish the off.

[01:12:45] All right.

[01:12:47] You know, we're watching now.

[01:12:48] What's that?

[01:12:50] Oh boy.

[01:12:52] Love is blind on Netflix.

[01:12:55] OK, dude, I'm going to tell you right now you're a fool because when I was getting

[01:12:59] my tattoo last week, they were watching that down at the other end of the studio

[01:13:05] and I'm listening to it.

[01:13:06] I'm like, what in the effing eff do people watch this stuff for?

[01:13:11] This is such crap.

[01:13:13] You're watching it.

[01:13:15] That is exactly why.

[01:13:17] It is great train wreck television at times.

[01:13:22] I like the concept of it.

[01:13:24] It's not like the bachelor.

[01:13:26] These people are in a room and a pod as they call, they have dates, multiple dates,

[01:13:32] and they can't see the other person.

[01:13:34] So they're forced to talk and get to know each other and build a connection.

[01:13:39] I appreciate that because it's not 20 women in one guy and let's see how many dates we can get

[01:13:44] and whether or not he picks me.

[01:13:46] Or it's not like married at first sight where there's no connection at all,

[01:13:49] they just thrust two people together.

[01:13:51] I appreciate that it forces them to get to know the person.

[01:13:56] However, once they get out of the pods, there is plenty of horrible trash TV going on,

[01:14:02] plenty of couple fights.

[01:14:03] And there was the episode that was on when I was there,

[01:14:06] or the several because I was there for so long.

[01:14:07] We're in the first season and we are not disappointed.

[01:14:13] Well, didn't you watch the Tiger show or something too?

[01:14:15] Did you watch that one?

[01:14:16] Well, Tiger King was a documentary.

[01:14:18] Well, but there was another one that I didn't watch the dramatization of it.

[01:14:24] Maybe I'm thinking duck.

[01:14:25] I've watched the documentary, but I watch 90 Day Fiancé.

[01:14:29] Okay.

[01:14:30] I watch Meredith first sight and now I watch Love Is Blind.

[01:14:36] Dude, I'm the same guy who would, you know, when I would be home working or home sick,

[01:14:40] in particular, from work, I would watch Jerry Springer and Maury Povich

[01:14:46] because I love crappy television.

[01:14:51] Yeah.

[01:14:52] Morton Downey Jr.?

[01:14:54] No, I didn't stay up late.

[01:14:56] And that was on when we were teens, really.

[01:14:58] Yeah.

[01:15:00] I used to have to get up at 3.30 to be at Friendly's by 5 a.m. to open for six.

[01:15:08] So I didn't watch, I didn't stay up for Morton Downey.

[01:15:12] But yeah, I love just train rock television, man.

[01:15:16] I don't, I don't.

[01:15:19] And I'll tell you what, you're going to disagree with it,

[01:15:22] but I think you'll kind of know where I'm coming from.

[01:15:25] I think some aspects of the office can be trainwrecked because you just feel so

[01:15:29] cringe-worthy about Michael and the things that he does.

[01:15:32] Not trainwrecked might not be the right word, but that's the reason why Sue doesn't watch it.

[01:15:36] It's just too cringe-worthy.

[01:15:38] I can't believe this is happening type stuff.

[01:15:40] That's the beauty of the writing and the brilliance of Steve Carell.

[01:15:44] Yeah.

[01:15:44] Yeah.

[01:15:44] Yeah.

[01:15:45] There are so many moments, so many moments where you're like, oh my, he's not, oh my god,

[01:15:50] he did it.

[01:15:52] Oh, he did it.

[01:15:54] I remember we were on the plane and you're watching the Phyllis's wedding episode.

[01:15:58] And you were laughing so hard, you're punching my leg on the plane.

[01:16:04] And there's so many cringe-worthy moments like when he gets up to give a toast to Bob and Phyllis,

[01:16:10] and he starts it multiple times.

[01:16:12] I'm Michael Scott because he believes you give the audience a couple looks

[01:16:17] when you're still workshopping material.

[01:16:20] You haven't gotten to some of the most cringe-worthy episodes yet.

[01:16:22] God.

[01:16:24] I did see a video the other day of when he leaves the office for the last time.

[01:16:29] The caption was that they were real tear.

[01:16:32] Yeah.

[01:16:34] John Krasinski.

[01:16:35] John Krasinski, yeah.

[01:16:38] The couple episodes before that, it's called Michael's Last Dundees,

[01:16:43] where they do another episode of the Dundees and they get tossed out of the restaurant

[01:16:47] kind of like they do in the first one, but they go back to Dunder Mifflin.

[01:16:51] And Steve Carell was the only one not in on it, but the cast starts singing

[01:17:00] the song from Renta, 985,600 minutes.

[01:17:04] But they've adapted it for Michael.

[01:17:06] And they just kept the cameras rolling.

[01:17:08] Steve Carell stayed in character the whole time.

[01:17:10] Had no idea it was happening.

[01:17:12] His tears were 100% real in that scene because it was a total surprise to him.

[01:17:15] That's cool.

[01:17:16] Nice.

[01:17:16] Yeah.

[01:17:18] Nice.

[01:17:19] I will watch it.

[01:17:21] I do want to finish it.

[01:17:22] I do.

[01:17:25] Where are you at now?

[01:17:25] You're still trapped in season four like you've been for six months?

[01:17:29] Yeah, still trapped.

[01:17:32] See if I can tell exactly where I am.

[01:17:33] Stand by.

[01:17:34] I'll bring that up right now.

[01:17:35] Standing by to stand by.

[01:17:36] I'm at.

[01:17:37] Red 5 standing by.

[01:17:38] Thank you.

[01:17:39] The office.

[01:17:42] Bubblebytuna.

[01:17:43] I am on...

[01:17:46] Oh, I'm almost done.

[01:17:48] I think I'm on night out, episode 15.

[01:17:51] So I only have a few episodes left.

[01:17:53] Well, there are a lot of one hour long episodes in season one at the early half.

[01:17:58] Fun run is an hour long.

[01:18:00] Dunder Mifflin, Infinity is an hour long.

[01:18:01] So we're launch party and money.

[01:18:03] Goodbye, Toby.

[01:18:05] Goodbye, Toby is really good.

[01:18:06] Goodbye, Toby sets up something that through lines through the rest of the series.

[01:18:12] And Michael or the rest of Michael's time on the series.

[01:18:14] Okay.

[01:18:15] So.

[01:18:16] I'm almost done season four.

[01:18:18] Did I stutter as great?

[01:18:19] Job fair is fantastic.

[01:18:21] Those are the next two after night out, yeah.

[01:18:23] There you go.

[01:18:23] And goodbye, Toby.

[01:18:24] You will laugh a lot.

[01:18:26] Okay.

[01:18:27] All right.

[01:18:28] Dinner party for me is arguably the best episode of the office.

[01:18:31] So good.

[01:18:32] Yeah, it's so cringy.

[01:18:33] It is so cringy.

[01:18:35] So cringy.

[01:18:36] But there's another one coming in season seven.

[01:18:38] I think it is called Scott's Tots.

[01:18:41] More cringy.

[01:18:44] The deposition was cringy too.

[01:18:45] Oh my gosh.

[01:18:47] I will allow it.

[01:18:51] Good stuff.

[01:18:52] All right, cool.

[01:18:52] So I will have to get on that.

[01:18:55] Of course, I'll be flying alone so I could watch a whole bunch of them on the plane to Vegas.

[01:18:59] Yeah, dude, that's five months away.

[01:19:01] I know.

[01:19:02] I'll probably be at the end of season four by then.

[01:19:04] I doubt it.

[01:19:08] You're gonna be like, I forgot everything I watched,

[01:19:09] so I had to go back to season one.

[01:19:11] Yeah, exactly.

[01:19:12] Oh, well.

[01:19:15] Daniel, we can't forget.

[01:19:16] What's that?

[01:19:17] Oh, I think our friends, the band Five Year Mission,

[01:19:20] we may have talked about nothing this episode,

[01:19:23] but Five Year Mission is definitely something and something that everybody should love.

[01:19:28] They're doing a one song for each episode of the original Star Trek

[01:19:31] and these songs, as we've said so many times, they're not parodies of Star Trek.

[01:19:35] They are looks at these episodes in ways you might not have imagined.

[01:19:42] They tell a story and they kind of compliment every episode that they've done a song for.

[01:19:47] So that's FiveYearMission.net.

[01:19:49] Please go get all the albums on CD, get them shipped to you.

[01:19:52] That way you own the physical media and those training service can dump it from you.

[01:19:57] Just become a huge fan like Dan and I are.

[01:20:00] So that's FiveYearMission.net.

[01:20:02] Get those songs.

[01:20:04] Get them all.

[01:20:04] You'll love them every single one.

[01:20:05] They're great.

[01:20:06] They're fantastic.

[01:20:07] You know, I gotta say, man, I was so excited to watch the episode this week that I was going to

[01:20:11] watch.

[01:20:12] One of the best really is.

[01:20:13] It gets a bad rap about being a bad episode, but I really don't think it is.

[01:20:17] But then I was just, I gotta say, I was just disappointed.

[01:20:21] I turned it on and there was just nothing there.

[01:20:23] Blank space, no music, no drums, nothing.

[01:20:27] Just dark emptiness and some cobwebs.

[01:20:31] It was Farke's brain.

[01:20:32] It was Eyedrops Farke, not Badginal Cream.

[01:20:39] What?

[01:20:40] Check Farke's Facebook posts.

[01:20:42] You really got to give that some context because nobody listening to the podcast that isn't

[01:20:47] Friends with Farke is going to have any idea what you're talking about.

[01:20:51] It was one of those ones.

[01:20:52] I don't go on Facebook a whole lot, but I did go out to post about the pop today.

[01:20:59] So I am scrolling through and Farke's job is like, I don't know what his title is.

[01:21:07] But I'm going to read what he said.

[01:21:09] Just had a lady get mad at me for asking what she ordered for a charge dispute per policy.

[01:21:14] It was Eyedrops.

[01:21:16] If I had said it was Badginal Cream, would you write that down?

[01:21:21] Yes, man, I would.

[01:21:22] I mean, it just struck me as funny.

[01:21:24] So that's why I throw that in.

[01:21:26] It's funny.

[01:21:28] Is it?

[01:21:29] It is.

[01:21:30] Which part is funny?

[01:21:31] Well, that's indisputable.

[01:21:34] You're telling of it, I think probably loses something in the translation.

[01:21:38] When doesn't it, though?

[01:21:39] Boston Translation, that's another one.

[01:21:42] Yeah, that's Bill Murray.

[01:21:43] I didn't like it.

[01:21:44] Oh, that's true.

[01:21:45] That's right.

[01:21:45] Okay.

[01:21:46] Never mind.

[01:21:46] And he is playing something a little different than Bill Murray, but I just...

[01:21:51] I thought, yeah, not great.

[01:21:55] Wow.

[01:21:55] We've gone way off track.

[01:21:58] Dark emptiness and some cobwebs.

[01:22:00] I think that also describes Dan's brain.

[01:22:02] Yes, but we're not talking about that right now.

[01:22:04] We're talking about five-year mission, Fark.

[01:22:06] So you're saying Fark's brain has nothing in it?

[01:22:09] Cobwebs, that's something more than me.

[01:22:13] Dark emptiness.

[01:22:15] I would posit that Fark is smarter than you are.

[01:22:20] Not going to disagree with that in any way, shape or form.

[01:22:24] So your brain is just dark emptiness without cobwebs?

[01:22:30] Five-year mission.net, go get those CDs.

[01:22:33] Of course, don't forget you too can subscribe to us on Patreon

[01:22:35] where you get perks and you get to be part of a pretty awesome group of people, Dan.

[01:22:42] Yeah, they are awesome.

[01:22:43] We love all of them.

[01:22:44] Right now I'm going to take a special moment, as I do every episode,

[01:22:47] to thank our associate producers of Trek Geeks.

[01:22:50] And they are.

[01:22:51] It's a long list, so I'm going to take a deep breath.

[01:22:53] VeeKronBot, Chad Clark, Corey Clay, Brad DeMagg, William Edward M. Jr., Brandon Everidge, Andy Fark,

[01:23:00] that guy, Kimberly Francis, Jonathan Hamilton, Ryan Jeffs, Sean Lynn, Rick Mason, Jamie McGregor,

[01:23:06] Ross McKinney, Aaron Molinkoff, Sarah Ladoo, Helen Reed, Sarah Rutlinger, Tim Robertson,

[01:23:12] Desi Rogers, Greg Rozier, Eric Sackian, Adam Sanders, Tim Sardar, Heather Sohn, Blake Stryke,

[01:23:19] Lisa Tomlinson, Ron Robill, Kay Leah Zawacky.

[01:23:23] I love saying that.

[01:23:24] I love saying that.

[01:23:25] And the gracious and Vundaba, Connie Hutchins.

[01:23:30] Vundaba, you should do next week or next episode all of Schwarzenegger again.

[01:23:35] I can do that.

[01:23:36] The entire list?

[01:23:38] The entire list.

[01:23:39] Challenge accepted.

[01:23:40] And then we're going to make you do double duty.

[01:23:42] You can do the producers as Captain Kirk.

[01:23:45] Oh, you're going to have me do both?

[01:23:47] Yeah, double duty.

[01:23:48] Wow.

[01:23:49] Okay.

[01:23:49] However, this week I will read our wonderful Trek Geeks producers.

[01:23:53] They are Mike Bovia, Steve Bovia, Chas Bratcha, Kyle Castillo.

[01:23:58] I lost my place in the list and it was the number two spot that does not bode well for

[01:24:02] the rest of the list.

[01:24:03] Kyle Castillo, Peter Craig, Andy Davenport, Craig Ewing, Jackie and Chris Hackney,

[01:24:08] Brian Hackwith, Kimberly Hartman, David Hood, Lionel Marchon,

[01:24:13] McGonagall, Jim McMahon, Darren Metcalf, Charlie Mulvey, Sean O'Halloran, Casey Pettit,

[01:24:19] Jamie Rogers, Casey Shasky, Terry Shull, Jim Stofill, Chris Tribuzio, Christina Werther,

[01:24:26] and the lovely and talented, Jess Vashon.

[01:24:30] Dan, the senior producer of Trek Geeks.

[01:24:32] Let's take a break here for a second.

[01:24:34] The senior producer of Trek Geeks is somebody we could do an entire episode on.

[01:24:39] And it would not be an episode of nothing because he

[01:24:42] is amazing.

[01:24:44] Absolutely.

[01:24:45] He is Jude Tatman and he is the permanent senior producer of Trek Geeks, keeps us in line like

[01:24:50] nobody else.

[01:24:51] He will be the only person ever in infinity to have the title of senior producer of Trek Geeks.

[01:24:57] And we could not be more proud of this young man.

[01:25:00] How are things across the pond, buddy?

[01:25:02] Hope you're doing well.

[01:25:03] Stay high to the family also.

[01:25:04] You know, everybody listening, you can become a producer of Trek Geeks and it's

[01:25:08] so easy to do.

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[01:27:29] Bing bong.

[01:27:30] Oh, that little raspy.

[01:27:32] That was kind of that was kind of sexy.

[01:27:34] You just described me.

[01:27:36] Bing bong.

[01:27:40] So what do you do for an outtake when you've had an hour of outtake?

[01:27:45] I don't know.

[01:27:46] Maybe I'll go get takeout.

[01:27:49] No, backwards.

[01:27:51] I see why we should have deleted this now.

[01:27:53] It's going to be a long episode.

[01:27:56] I see why we should have deleted this.

[01:27:59] I have no idea.

[01:28:00] I'm trying to save all my good stuff for the actual episode, but I don't really have any good.

[01:28:04] That'd be the first time in 300 and some odd episodes.

[01:28:08] Come on.

[01:28:09] I think it is.

[01:28:09] You have to be absolutely right on target.

[01:28:12] This is 312.

[01:28:15] Well, there's also been some supplementals that we used to count.

[01:28:18] Didn't count.

[01:28:19] Oh, supplemental this turkey neck.

[01:28:22] Turkey neck.

[01:28:23] That was a phrase that my dad would say all the time he was dicking around with us,

[01:28:27] joking around and having fun.

[01:28:29] We'd say something and if he wanted to just if he didn't want to believe it or

[01:28:32] he just wanted to be a wise guy, like he said, oh, I'm going to drive.

[01:28:35] I get 35 miles a gallon.

[01:28:36] He'd be like, oh, 35 miles this turkey neck.

[01:28:39] And we'd all be like, what?

[01:28:41] What?

[01:28:41] What?

[01:28:42] Sometimes he would say turkey breath, too, which is always good.

[01:28:46] So my father-in-law, I adore him.

[01:28:49] He's a wonderful, wonderful man.

[01:28:51] I love my in-laws genuinely.

[01:28:52] Like I know you love your in-laws.

[01:28:55] Yes.

[01:28:55] Yeah.

[01:28:55] And my wife and I are in the car with them one day going to dinner

[01:29:00] and he's telling a story and he's trying to punctuate how somebody just

[01:29:04] isn't doing what they're supposed to be doing.

[01:29:06] He's like, you know what I say?

[01:29:08] I say, man up or shit in your hat.

[01:29:12] And Kelly and I are in the back seat going, the hell does that mean?

[01:29:17] Man up or what?

[01:29:20] That's like, I don't have time.

[01:29:22] I'm wearing a hat and I said, I am not shitting in this.

[01:29:26] That's a new one.

[01:29:27] I've never heard that one before.

[01:29:28] Yeah.

[01:29:28] So every now and then we'll drop with each other a man up or shit in your hat.

[01:29:33] Nice.

[01:29:34] Let's talk about the problematic aspect of the phrase, man up.

[01:29:38] Yeah.

[01:29:39] Absolutely.

[01:29:40] That aside, it's really the whole shit in your hat thing people should be focusing on.

[01:29:45] I think that's what, yeah.

[01:29:46] That's kind of like a thing that you kind of just like the spot like shines right on it,

[01:29:50] which is kind of gross in itself when you think about it.

[01:29:52] Yeah.

[01:29:53] So there you have it.

[01:29:54] It's okay.

[01:29:56] So now if we marry the two together, it's man up or shit in your hat, turkey neck.

[01:30:01] I love it.

[01:30:01] I'm going to use that tonight.

[01:30:02] Every Friday night I FaceTime,

[01:30:04] soon I FaceTime with Donna and Chris every Friday night.

[01:30:07] You know they live 15 minutes away.

[01:30:09] I know, but it's something that started in Maine and it's just never really stopped.

[01:30:13] I'm going to use that tonight and they're going to both look at me like,

[01:30:15] what the hell are you talking about?

[01:30:17] That's great.

[01:30:18] I love it.

[01:30:18] Thank you.

[01:30:19] You are welcome.

[01:30:20] That's a good hashtag.

[01:30:22] That's how long it is.

[01:30:24] All right.

[01:30:27] It is a long one.

[01:30:27] You are not incorrect there for once.

[01:30:30] So considering that we're just going to be out taking the whole thing,

[01:30:37] maybe we should actually cut an episode.

[01:30:39] Yeah, let's do it.

[01:30:40] I'm ready.

[01:30:44] Man up or shit in your hat, Dan.

[01:30:46] Thank you.

[01:30:46] Thank you.

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