Orville Cummings: Young, Gifted and Black!

[00:00:00] Hi y'all, Orville Cummings here and you're listening to the SyFy Sisters.

[00:00:04] Welcome to the SyFy Sisters podcast where we give you our point of view. I'm your host, Tamia Harper. I'm joined today by all my sisters. Yvette Blackman Tom.

[00:00:46] Hello.

[00:00:48] Sabrina Wood.

[00:00:49] Whoop whoop.

[00:00:50] And Fran T.

[00:00:52] What's happening?

[00:00:53] What's happening Fran, as always.

[00:00:57] What you guys know, we have a fantastic show.

[00:01:00] Yay!

[00:01:01] That's right. We know we gotta bring you something. Today, we're bringing you a brother that we love to pieces. His smile lights up a room. We've loved him since we first saw him on Star Trek Discovery as Lieutenant Christopher. And we see him in a lot of other things. And like Murdoch Mysteries, I knew I knew his face. So, you know, cause that's my jam.

[00:01:23] I like, that's one of my quiet jams. I love Murdoch Mysteries. But anyway, I bring you none other than Orville Cummings. Welcome to the show, my brother.

[00:01:32] Yay!

[00:01:32] Yay! Sorry, I just wanted to jump in on the...

[00:01:36] I know, right? You gotta have a thing, right? He wanted a thing. He wanted something.

[00:01:40] I love it.

[00:01:41] Now that's gonna be your thing now. Every time you come back to the show, you gotta remember that.

[00:01:45] Yay!

[00:01:46] There you go.

[00:01:48] I'll remember.

[00:01:48] He's good. He'll remember.

[00:01:50] I'll remember.

[00:01:53] Welcome.

[00:01:54] You know, we've wanted to have you on for so long.

[00:01:58] And it just feels like you are one of the family because I tell you, like when we say, y'all, that this brother gave us so much love at Star Trek Las Vegas.

[00:02:09] Yep.

[00:02:10] Am I right, y'all?

[00:02:11] Yeah, oh yeah.

[00:02:12] Totally right.

[00:02:13] He was hanging with us.

[00:02:14] Hanging with the sisters.

[00:02:15] That's right.

[00:02:16] That's it.

[00:02:17] Every day, running over to give his aunties some love and some hugs and some kisses and a big smile.

[00:02:23] And we were all like eating it up.

[00:02:25] That's right.

[00:02:25] Like, you know what, buddy?

[00:02:26] Another nephew.

[00:02:30] When it started at Trek Long Island.

[00:02:32] Yes.

[00:02:32] It started at Trek Long Island.

[00:02:34] That's right.

[00:02:35] Him and his Tribble.

[00:02:37] That's right, the Tribble.

[00:02:39] You still have that Tribble?

[00:02:41] I do have that Tribble, you know.

[00:02:43] I keep it.

[00:02:44] It's my room.

[00:02:45] It's on my desk.

[00:02:46] Awesome.

[00:02:46] And then I look over and I'm like, alright buddy, ready to get it?

[00:02:48] Hop on the flight.

[00:02:50] Hit the convention.

[00:02:52] Have you named it?

[00:02:53] Does the Tribble travel with you?

[00:02:54] The Tribble does travel with me.

[00:02:56] It was in Long Island?

[00:02:58] Yeah, this is like my side bag.

[00:03:00] Bam.

[00:03:00] And yeah, the name of the Tribble, I just gave it the name Milo.

[00:03:04] I had a pet cat named Milo and I loved it dearly.

[00:03:07] It's not dead, it's just not with me anymore.

[00:03:10] Because I kept sitting it for a couple of months and I kind of fell in love with it.

[00:03:15] Oh, don't you hate that?

[00:03:16] I'm back and I'm like, you can stay a little longer if you want to say no.

[00:03:20] We're in a Qatar.

[00:03:21] Qatar?

[00:03:21] Why are you in a Qatar?

[00:03:23] Qatar?

[00:03:23] Oh my gosh.

[00:03:24] Yeah, Qatar.

[00:03:25] On the other side of the world.

[00:03:26] Wow.

[00:03:27] Yeah.

[00:03:28] That was good.

[00:03:29] Milo, because a lot of us have Tribbles and we have names for-

[00:03:33] We all have Tribbles.

[00:03:33] Don't we all have Tribbles?

[00:03:34] I don't have a Tribble per se.

[00:03:36] Hey, there are Tribbles in the house, but I don't have a house.

[00:03:40] I don't own, you know, they're not mine.

[00:03:42] Ah, there were other people living in your house.

[00:03:44] Okay, right.

[00:03:44] I got it, I got it.

[00:03:45] Wait, what?

[00:03:46] Also, just a side note.

[00:03:48] Not just because of the cat is why I settled on the name Milo.

[00:03:51] It's actually because like, I grew up in Jamaica and every morning my mom would make

[00:03:57] me a cup of Milo.

[00:03:58] Oh.

[00:03:59] It's kind of like Coke or powder kind of like that we drink in the islands.

[00:04:01] And it has a special place in my heart because sometimes I won't even finish my breakfast,

[00:04:06] but I'm going to finish the Milo though.

[00:04:09] I'm going to finish that.

[00:04:11] Yeah, that.

[00:04:11] That's awesome.

[00:04:12] It always has a special place in my heart.

[00:04:13] Every time I hear that word Milo, that name or anywhere, it triggers that for me.

[00:04:16] So that goes into play.

[00:04:19] Oh, that's so cool.

[00:04:20] That's awesome.

[00:04:20] Okay.

[00:04:21] Do you get back to Jamaica a lot or no?

[00:04:23] The last time I went was 2018.

[00:04:26] Really?

[00:04:26] I haven't been since, but I do plan, I do intend on going back.

[00:04:31] I've always gone back with my family, like my dad, my mom.

[00:04:34] But I kind of want to do a solo trip myself or with my partner just so I can take in the

[00:04:40] island on my terms because it's up to someone else's schedule, you know?

[00:04:45] Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[00:04:46] I want to go and do my thing, you know?

[00:04:49] My family, you know, they want to go to the market.

[00:04:51] They want to do this and that.

[00:04:52] Maybe I want to go to Dunn's River Falls.

[00:04:54] Maybe you do.

[00:04:55] Oh.

[00:04:56] Maybe I want to go and take a trip up to the Blue Mountain, you know, and just drive around.

[00:05:00] Get some coffee.

[00:05:00] Get some coffee.

[00:05:01] Exactly.

[00:05:01] Get some good coffee.

[00:05:03] So, yeah.

[00:05:03] So where in Jamaica are you from?

[00:05:05] From...

[00:05:05] I'm from Clarendon, which is like the south side of Jamaica.

[00:05:09] Okay.

[00:05:09] So Jamaica is shaped like this.

[00:05:11] Yep.

[00:05:11] It's not a visual podcast, but it's a little...

[00:05:14] You're right there.

[00:05:15] But we can see it.

[00:05:17] We can see it.

[00:05:18] Okay, good, good, good, good.

[00:05:19] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:05:20] Yeah, that's the parish I grew up in, Clarendon.

[00:05:22] It's a pretty well-known parish.

[00:05:24] A lot of...

[00:05:25] It has a big market there called Maypen.

[00:05:27] That's where everyone comes to market, socialize.

[00:05:31] There's malls.

[00:05:32] It's a giant hub.

[00:05:33] There's even a school there.

[00:05:34] It's like the...

[00:05:36] Well, Kingston would be the Toronto of Jamaica, but this is like a second close to

[00:05:43] like a city-like, but it's more like a village kind of like city hybrid.

[00:05:46] Okay.

[00:05:47] It's wild, but it's a fun place.

[00:05:49] It sounds really cool.

[00:05:50] Yeah, cool, cool, cool, cool.

[00:05:52] Yeah, yeah.

[00:05:52] I've never been there.

[00:05:53] I've been to Jamaica, but I've never been to that part.

[00:05:55] So next time I go, maybe I'll check that part out because I think I've done it all.

[00:05:59] Bring water.

[00:06:00] Bring water.

[00:06:01] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:06:02] It's hot in the market.

[00:06:03] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:06:04] Okay.

[00:06:05] See?

[00:06:06] Tips from the pros.

[00:06:07] That's right.

[00:06:09] That's right.

[00:06:10] So now, brother, let's, let's, let's check it.

[00:06:13] Let's, let's get the trek on.

[00:06:15] You know, let's, let's get that part of this, of the show out of the way.

[00:06:20] Okay.

[00:06:20] Yeah.

[00:06:21] It's always going to come back to trek anyway.

[00:06:24] Oh, don't worry.

[00:06:25] You know, never fear.

[00:06:26] It'll come back.

[00:06:27] We'll be back.

[00:06:28] It'll be back.

[00:06:29] Lieutenant Christopher, tell us about him.

[00:06:33] What did you love about him?

[00:06:35] What did you love about playing him?

[00:06:37] Cause we loved him as soon as we saw him on the screen.

[00:06:40] So his name is Lieutenant William Christopher.

[00:06:43] Cause I think we always.

[00:06:44] Yes.

[00:06:45] That's correct.

[00:06:46] Good.

[00:06:46] Um, I loved that role because well, first of all, just as the actor stepping into that

[00:06:54] role, it's a new role on the show coming in season four.

[00:06:58] So I'm just like, you know, I don't know how anyone's going to feel about this because

[00:07:01] I know how I am with, you know, like fresh Prince.

[00:07:04] And then season three, just like, oh, Viv.

[00:07:07] What happened?

[00:07:11] Yeah.

[00:07:12] Like no disrespect to the actress that played, but she did a phenomenal job as well.

[00:07:17] It was just different.

[00:07:18] So it's something to adjust to.

[00:07:19] So I was thinking that for myself.

[00:07:21] It's like, yo, how this, how these fans, cause I know the star Trek fans, you know,

[00:07:24] they are poor don't catch it.

[00:07:25] You know what I'm saying?

[00:07:27] Oh, this character slide.

[00:07:29] They'll be like, okay, okay, whatever.

[00:07:30] He's not essential to the plot or whatever, but like Star Trek fans, they don't let it

[00:07:33] slide.

[00:07:34] So, and I thought that too, coming into this family as the actor on set, I'm just like,

[00:07:39] yo, these people have already built a relationship that has been going on four years strong.

[00:07:44] I'm coming in at a very weird time where we can't be close to each other because of

[00:07:48] COVID and whatnot.

[00:07:49] So when I got there, I was surprised and very in awe of how well I was received both by the

[00:07:58] cast and the fans.

[00:07:59] I was like, it's like, it was such a smooth transition for me.

[00:08:03] And because of that, it allowed me to really step into the role as this, this new recruit

[00:08:09] on the discovery and try to prove myself.

[00:08:13] But with knowing what I, what role I play on the ship without overstepping or anything.

[00:08:18] So, and I feel like the cast and the other characters were very welcoming and we've had

[00:08:23] relationships on and off camera.

[00:08:25] And it was like a, it was a beautiful time.

[00:08:27] It's a beautiful time.

[00:08:28] Oh yeah.

[00:08:29] We love the bridge crew.

[00:08:30] That's for sure.

[00:08:31] Oh yeah.

[00:08:32] Yeah.

[00:08:33] It was funny too.

[00:08:34] Cause when we, I, when I first saw you, I was like, Oh, what is this going to be about?

[00:08:38] And then what's going on right off the bat?

[00:08:41] I was like, Oh brother.

[00:08:42] I was like, they just taken away Ronnie.

[00:08:43] What's happening.

[00:08:44] I know.

[00:08:45] I know.

[00:08:46] I was feeling that way.

[00:08:47] They do know we all don't look alike.

[00:08:49] Right.

[00:08:51] But then you came here, you had a new name.

[00:08:53] They made sure they had a story behind it.

[00:08:56] Right.

[00:08:56] Right.

[00:08:57] You sounded right away.

[00:08:58] You knew what you were doing.

[00:08:59] I was like, Oh, we're all right.

[00:09:00] We're all right.

[00:09:01] I wanted to make sure I was coming in.

[00:09:03] I was going to earn my keep.

[00:09:04] I was younger.

[00:09:05] I have one question I wanted to ask.

[00:09:07] I know it's not really said, but did you, did, did, did you, did Lieutenant Christopher

[00:09:13] come with the crew from the 23rd century or is he a 32nd century?

[00:09:20] That's a very good question.

[00:09:21] That's a really good question.

[00:09:22] Um, because I, myself, I was wondering for a long time, just like, guys, we're, uh, like

[00:09:26] 750 years into the future.

[00:09:28] I'm like, am I 750 years old or am I 30?

[00:09:31] Well, 900.

[00:09:32] I think.

[00:09:33] Oh my gosh.

[00:09:35] Right.

[00:09:35] So I, I, I, I thought too, um, there has been hints that I've seen throughout the, my

[00:09:44] time working on, on, on the show that has led me to believe that I am from the original

[00:09:49] era for one, because you know, we didn't know the show was going to get, right.

[00:09:54] Right.

[00:09:54] Right.

[00:09:55] Right.

[00:09:55] So there was plans for the future of what the next season would be.

[00:09:57] And I remember I had a fitting and in this fitting, I'm just like, I get fittings all

[00:10:01] the time because my body fluctuates a lot.

[00:10:03] So I'm like, ah, this routine.

[00:10:04] And then I go into my, my fitting room and I'm like, is this is my, my, my uniform.

[00:10:11] You guys got this.

[00:10:12] I looked at it and that says my name, but this is the original uniform.

[00:10:16] Yeah.

[00:10:17] I, I, I, I don't know.

[00:10:18] I can't.

[00:10:19] Well, I can't expose what I don't know.

[00:10:22] Right.

[00:10:22] Exactly.

[00:10:23] And I'm making assumptions.

[00:10:25] Yeah.

[00:10:25] I do another either mirror universe or going back in the past.

[00:10:29] And I was going to be featured in the past as a, I'm part of the original.

[00:10:32] Part of the crew.

[00:10:33] Yeah.

[00:10:34] Cool.

[00:10:34] I'm cool with either or.

[00:10:36] Cause I think, I think I was trying to find out if I, I think it was just a said that

[00:10:41] you had went to the Academy and I'm like, well, the Academy wasn't over.

[00:10:45] Yeah.

[00:10:45] Well, you guys, so I must, that's why I assumed.

[00:10:49] Yeah.

[00:10:49] You were.

[00:10:50] And then someone told me, no, he, I was like, Ooh, I don't know, but I could have

[00:10:53] sworn.

[00:10:54] There was a mention that you had been to the Academy.

[00:10:56] So I figured you were a part of the original crew.

[00:10:59] Yeah.

[00:10:59] Yeah.

[00:10:59] I remember.

[00:11:00] Yeah.

[00:11:00] It's just in the lower decks.

[00:11:03] Yes.

[00:11:04] The lower decks.

[00:11:05] Washing away.

[00:11:08] Like, yo, I need a break.

[00:11:09] Say, thank God.

[00:11:10] Okay.

[00:11:11] I mean, how art imitates life.

[00:11:15] I remember the first day I worked with Mr. Ronnie Rowe.

[00:11:17] Shout out to Ronnie.

[00:11:18] Hey Ronnie.

[00:11:20] Hi Ronnie.

[00:11:21] Ronnie.

[00:11:22] I, I have heard so much about Ronnie and I've seen his work before and I had the utmost

[00:11:26] respect for him just as an artist.

[00:11:27] So when I met him on set, I said, yo man, I love your stuff, blah, blah.

[00:11:31] It's been, it's an honor to like fill this role for you because it wasn't supposed to

[00:11:34] be like a complete switch.

[00:11:36] It was supposed to be for now until he comes back.

[00:11:38] Right.

[00:11:39] Um, and I remember I made a joke, uh, to him.

[00:11:42] I'm just like, I know you can't do this these days.

[00:11:45] And I'm just, I'm filling in because you know, you're working on this other project,

[00:11:48] but you know, man, I really, really, really hope this career treats you so well.

[00:11:54] So, a liberal like next month.

[00:11:58] Right.

[00:11:59] Let's just, you know, if the casting guys are listening.

[00:12:01] Cause I'm good.

[00:12:02] I'm good.

[00:12:02] Brother, I hope that.

[00:12:03] Wishing you all the best.

[00:12:05] And it's funny.

[00:12:06] And it's so funny because the next transition after that would be, uh, all it's in the yelling

[00:12:10] action.

[00:12:11] And my line to him is like, I, he said, I, you, it seems like you guys a lot of fun

[00:12:15] with the ongeling.

[00:12:16] And I'm saying, yeah, I should cover your shifts more often.

[00:12:18] So maybe.

[00:12:19] Yeah.

[00:12:20] It's just funny how that kind of like weep itself into the actual reality of what the,

[00:12:24] what it became.

[00:12:25] And I'm just like, wow, I guess this was meant to happen.

[00:12:28] There's such a smooth transition.

[00:12:30] He leveled up and I came in.

[00:12:31] I'm like, that's it.

[00:12:34] That was perfect.

[00:12:35] It was perfect.

[00:12:36] Yep.

[00:12:37] I love that.

[00:12:38] Now tell it.

[00:12:39] Is there something.

[00:12:40] That you know about Lieutenant Christopher that you created like in your head,

[00:12:45] like for your head cannon for him that nobody else knows.

[00:12:49] Yeah.

[00:12:50] Um, this is so funny because, um, on paper on document, I'm hired as a communications

[00:12:55] officer.

[00:12:56] So, uh, people have, uh, uh, a perspective of what that means.

[00:13:02] You know, this nerdy guy listening to radio waves from like a million light years away.

[00:13:07] Sure.

[00:13:07] That's a part of the job.

[00:13:08] But for me, I like to bring myself as a part of the characters and I'm a very active

[00:13:12] guy.

[00:13:12] So I see Lieutenant Christopher when he's on the bridge, he's back home.

[00:13:16] He's going on adventures.

[00:13:17] He's, he's going into rainforest.

[00:13:19] He's doing all these like fun adventure action stuff that you don't really get to

[00:13:23] see in the show, but that's part of the reason why I wanted to bring it in as he's

[00:13:27] someone that can manage the stress of being on the crew very well because of what he does

[00:13:31] in his personal life, all this adventure stuff.

[00:13:33] And I wish we got to see that because we, uh, we, we've hinted at certain things like

[00:13:37] near season 40 and the season four, we're breaching the galactic barrier.

[00:13:41] Um, and they were just, uh, the casting directors, the writers of the show were just like, you

[00:13:46] know, we're going to add stuff that these characters do to, you know, get these fans, you know,

[00:13:51] more connected with them.

[00:13:52] And, uh, I put some things forward and what they ended up using was, uh, skiing.

[00:13:57] I know how to snowboard not well now it's been a while, but just to show that Lieutenant

[00:14:02] Christopher is not just like, you know, at the desk all day.

[00:14:05] That would have been my guy.

[00:14:07] That's my guy.

[00:14:10] Yeah.

[00:14:11] I mean, you're in great company.

[00:14:12] I mean, there aren't many communications officers.

[00:14:15] I mean, there's, there's you, there's Bryce, there's Hoshi.

[00:14:19] And there's a horror.

[00:14:21] I mean, you can't get better than that.

[00:14:24] Right.

[00:14:26] You can't get better than that.

[00:14:28] Wow.

[00:14:29] I love it.

[00:14:30] I love it.

[00:14:31] Oh, okay.

[00:14:31] I thought it looked like Sabrina was about to be like, and no, I'm still stuck on skiing.

[00:14:36] I was like, that's the one thing.

[00:14:39] The ski bunny, the ski bunny over there.

[00:14:43] No, no, that's when I started like throwing down my gloves.

[00:14:46] It was, I was never a ski bunny.

[00:14:47] I was a ski bum.

[00:14:50] Oh, okay.

[00:14:50] Sorry.

[00:14:51] Sorry.

[00:14:51] Sorry.

[00:14:53] Major differentiation.

[00:14:56] My bad.

[00:14:57] Were the ski bunnies, were the ski bunnies, the ones like up at the, um,

[00:15:00] Sea bunny was sitting at the, I race, ski, not ski.

[00:15:03] And they were just sitting in the bar.

[00:15:04] That's me.

[00:15:05] I was a ski bunny.

[00:15:06] Right.

[00:15:07] I was working.

[00:15:08] I was on the mountain working.

[00:15:10] Okay.

[00:15:10] Okay.

[00:15:11] Oh yeah.

[00:15:11] That's the ski bum.

[00:15:12] Okay.

[00:15:12] I was a ski bunny watching you work.

[00:15:15] Right.

[00:15:15] Wait for my child.

[00:15:17] Like sitting with some hot cocoa and stuff going.

[00:15:19] Right.

[00:15:19] She must be cold out there.

[00:15:21] That would be me.

[00:15:23] No, look at her.

[00:15:23] She look cold.

[00:15:25] It's cold out there.

[00:15:29] Okay.

[00:15:30] All right.

[00:15:30] So you grew up in Jamaica.

[00:15:34] And then you went where to Canada.

[00:15:37] Yeah.

[00:15:38] Uh, uh, Jamaica straight to Canada.

[00:15:40] And this, uh, when, how old were you?

[00:15:41] I was 12 years old.

[00:15:43] Oh, when you moved to Canada.

[00:15:45] Yeah.

[00:15:45] That's correct.

[00:15:45] You grew up part Jamaica and part in Canadian.

[00:15:49] That's correct.

[00:15:50] Which part of Canada were you in?

[00:15:52] I was in, uh, Brampton.

[00:15:53] So it was still Ontario.

[00:15:54] Um, the small, still developing.

[00:15:57] Like when, as a kid, when my dad was telling me that he would come and get me to come to,

[00:16:02] uh, Canada, um, I had these like fantasies of what it'd be like.

[00:16:06] Cause I knew about America, but I didn't know what Canada was.

[00:16:09] Right.

[00:16:09] Right.

[00:16:10] I'm like, you know, it's right next to each other.

[00:16:11] Same must be the same.

[00:16:12] So I'm like, I'm gonna have a tree house.

[00:16:15] I'm gonna have a big backyard.

[00:16:17] I got to Brampton.

[00:16:19] There was a lawn.

[00:16:21] It was just dirt and mud.

[00:16:23] Oh, wow.

[00:16:23] The house was empty.

[00:16:24] Cause my dad just moved in.

[00:16:25] And I'm like, what is going on?

[00:16:27] And my dad, uh, he works, uh, he does the highways.

[00:16:32] He does like the tarring for the highway.

[00:16:33] So we work like crazy hours overnight.

[00:16:35] So I'd be alone in the house by myself.

[00:16:37] Oh my gosh.

[00:16:38] Now developing town.

[00:16:40] And I'm just like, this is terrifying.

[00:16:42] This is not.

[00:16:42] Oh my gosh.

[00:16:43] Yeah.

[00:16:44] But it, it, it, I got used to it eventually, but like, it was just like, this is, this is

[00:16:49] what under snow.

[00:16:50] I was like, I couldn't wait to see snow.

[00:16:51] I was like, this is going to be crazy.

[00:16:53] And I'm, and I forgot one key factor that comes with snow.

[00:16:56] Cold.

[00:16:57] Yes.

[00:16:57] I don't like being cold.

[00:16:59] And there's, as a kid, I'm just like, I'm not thinking about the negatives.

[00:17:01] I'm just like, right.

[00:17:02] So pretty.

[00:17:04] It's going to be so pretty.

[00:17:05] It's going to be so cool.

[00:17:05] I'm like, yo, that's crazy.

[00:17:08] It's falling down my back.

[00:17:10] Yo.

[00:17:13] Yes, I did.

[00:17:15] That was very big on manual labor.

[00:17:18] I remember one time when I came in, there's a bunch of dishes and I remember looking at

[00:17:22] and I'm just like, we, what, why don't we hook up this dishwasher?

[00:17:25] It's, it's just like, you're the dishwasher.

[00:17:29] That's right.

[00:17:31] I was the same way.

[00:17:32] We have a dishwasher.

[00:17:33] It's still not hooked up.

[00:17:34] Yeah.

[00:17:35] Yeah.

[00:17:36] What was it even there?

[00:17:38] It came with the house.

[00:17:39] It came with the house.

[00:17:41] I had three dish, I had D three dishwashers and I didn't need that.

[00:17:45] No.

[00:17:45] You want to, you want cash?

[00:17:47] They always ask for cash.

[00:17:49] You got to do something for this cash.

[00:17:50] Come on.

[00:17:52] Wow.

[00:17:53] Yeah.

[00:17:54] No.

[00:17:55] That must've been a major shock.

[00:17:57] Right.

[00:17:58] My mother came from a warm country and she came here think the same thing.

[00:18:01] She thought the snow was going to be wonderful.

[00:18:02] And she got here and it was like, when she came, okay, she was wearing yellow suede boots

[00:18:08] when she got here.

[00:18:09] I was like, okay, you know, mom, mom, no, that's only happened to Boston too, right?

[00:18:15] Yeah.

[00:18:15] She came from, uh, yeah, she came from Calcutta, India to, to London and to Boston.

[00:18:19] And she's wearing like all this wrong stuff, you know, the picture that we have of her.

[00:18:25] Oh, now you know.

[00:18:27] Yep.

[00:18:27] She got the galoshes.

[00:18:29] She got galoshes eventually.

[00:18:30] Yeah.

[00:18:30] Yeah.

[00:18:31] Yeah.

[00:18:31] Yeah.

[00:18:31] So when you, where you grew up, like, were there a lot of other black kids and, or was

[00:18:37] it a mixed community or what was it like?

[00:18:40] Uh, in Brampton?

[00:18:41] I'm, I'm just kidding.

[00:18:42] Uh, in Brampton.

[00:18:44] Yeah.

[00:18:45] In Brampton.

[00:18:45] Yeah.

[00:18:56] No, but in Brampton, when I went there, it was a pretty diverse, uh, like town when

[00:19:02] I was there because, you know, everyone was kind of moving in to see, you know, this is

[00:19:05] the vibe they want or not because Brampton didn't really have an identity.

[00:19:09] It just had land.

[00:19:10] So, uh, we get a lot of different, uh, settlers.

[00:19:13] We got Indian, we got Caucasians, we got Asians, we got, uh, blacks, uh, mainly Jamaican

[00:19:19] because there's a lot of Jamaican restaurants on there.

[00:19:21] There's a large population of Jamaican people that settled there.

[00:19:24] Uh, now going back to Brampton, it's developed so much.

[00:19:28] It's actually kind of crazy looking at the, the time map in my head and it's completely

[00:19:33] different now.

[00:19:34] It's not as diverse anymore.

[00:19:36] Um, but it's, it, the population has boomed to an astounded amount.

[00:19:42] It's crazy.

[00:19:44] Brampton used to be empty.

[00:19:45] You could hear a pin drop.

[00:19:46] Now it was just like, whoa, where did all these people come from?

[00:19:50] What is it?

[00:19:51] What's the big thing there?

[00:19:52] What is everybody doing there?

[00:19:53] I mean, what are you doing in Brampton?

[00:19:55] What are you doing in Brampton?

[00:19:56] What are you doing in Brampton, Canada?

[00:19:59] Honestly, honestly, anytime someone tells me they're from Brampton and they still live

[00:20:02] in Brampton, I'm like, what are you doing there?

[00:20:04] I want to know.

[00:20:05] If you're not working for the government, what are you doing there?

[00:20:09] It's a great place.

[00:20:10] Let me tell you something.

[00:20:11] Before preface this, Brampton is a beautiful, uh, place.

[00:20:15] Um, it has a lot of great, uh, lakes and, uh, little ponds, I mean, and, uh, flowers.

[00:20:22] And, and it's, it's a very, it's a very quiet and fairly safe, uh, place to live.

[00:20:26] If you want to go and settle down and raise a family, you know, get your real estate business

[00:20:30] booming, go there.

[00:20:31] If you're trying to be an artist, you kind of have to leave because the ceiling is pretty

[00:20:36] low for art there.

[00:20:37] Um, so it just wasn't a place for me.

[00:20:40] I know a lot of friends who are artists who still live in Brampton who are, who are thriving.

[00:20:44] It doesn't completely hold you back, but it's like, it makes it a little bit more difficult

[00:20:49] to network and to like be in the city where most of the action is taking place anyways.

[00:20:54] Right.

[00:20:55] Yeah.

[00:20:55] Toronto.

[00:20:56] Yeah.

[00:20:56] So Brampton is just boring.

[00:20:58] It's so easy to like fall in love with it and then not know 10 years later that you're

[00:21:03] just, you just been sitting in the same place for like, I get that.

[00:21:06] Yeah.

[00:21:07] Yeah.

[00:21:07] Yeah.

[00:21:08] The comfort I'm not at that phase in my life where that's what I'm seeking.

[00:21:13] Right.

[00:21:13] So yeah.

[00:21:15] I feel that that's a, such a good way to describe that.

[00:21:18] And so like, you got bit by the bug really early, right?

[00:21:21] Like you started performing, like how young were you when you started performing or were

[00:21:25] you always a performer?

[00:21:26] I felt like I was always a performer.

[00:21:29] I just never told anybody.

[00:21:31] And when that was, was at a very young age as a kid, I went through the typical, you

[00:21:36] know, I'm an only child, you know, I don't have any brothers or siblings.

[00:21:39] So, you know, all I got is these toys and these stories in my head, but just the length

[00:21:44] of how long those stories went on for that kind of said to me that, you know, maybe there's

[00:21:49] something there I should nurture.

[00:21:51] I just don't know what it is.

[00:21:51] Cause there's no one around me in that field of work to even say, yo, you ever thought about

[00:21:56] doing this?

[00:21:57] You ever thought about that?

[00:21:58] It was so much, it was more of my imagination.

[00:22:01] And it always came out in a performing kind of like way where I create these narratives and

[00:22:06] these characters and I'll try to act them out.

[00:22:07] Give, give my, my action figures, my toys, all these voices and different storylines.

[00:22:11] And it's always been something that's been kind of like an escape for me.

[00:22:15] And I loved it.

[00:22:17] And I was always a very shy kid, but for whatever reason, when it came to like performing or doing

[00:22:23] a presentation, I wouldn't have as much nerve as, be as nervous as to say, like, I go do

[00:22:29] a written math test.

[00:22:31] Right.

[00:22:32] Right.

[00:22:32] I've been studying for this test all night, but I'm just like, I'm so nervous.

[00:22:35] I'm going to feel it.

[00:22:35] But whereas performing, there was always a comfort I found in it, it being a shy kid,

[00:22:41] which is kind of like, you know, weird, but like, I know we've heard that so many times

[00:22:44] from artists.

[00:22:45] Yeah.

[00:22:46] It's almost like a, an outlet for them, you know, it's a way to, right.

[00:22:51] To not be themselves and get everything that they're feeling out.

[00:22:55] Um, so that's not unusual at all.

[00:22:59] When you decided to be an actor, performer and artist, was your family supportive?

[00:23:07] Uh, yes and no.

[00:23:09] And the yes is one side and no is the other.

[00:23:12] My dad was very supportive.

[00:23:14] Um, my dad just like, you know, as long as you're not stealing or scamming people, I

[00:23:18] support whatever you do.

[00:23:19] Um, you should just follow your dreams no matter what they are.

[00:23:23] I'm just here to support.

[00:23:24] I'm not here to dictate you.

[00:23:25] So he had a very good cause that's how he wanted his life to be.

[00:23:28] So he was fair and he allowed me to be that way.

[00:23:32] No matter what I chose, he was surprised I chose that because I said he was very shy.

[00:23:35] He's like an actor.

[00:23:39] I thought you'd be a veterinarian or something.

[00:23:41] You love animals, but like, but you want to go in front of people and talk?

[00:23:45] Wow.

[00:23:46] All right.

[00:23:47] What can we do about this?

[00:23:48] My mom, on the other hand, she's a very reserved.

[00:23:51] So her non support, uh, at the beginning was more so out of fear.

[00:23:58] Cause she didn't understand what it looked like.

[00:24:01] So she was more so not saying that I shouldn't do it, but I should consider doing something

[00:24:07] else so I can get X, Y, Z, uh, stability money, do this.

[00:24:12] This is like just that track of mine as a mom.

[00:24:14] Yeah.

[00:24:15] Yeah.

[00:24:16] Yeah.

[00:24:16] So I know a lot of people can see that as just complete.

[00:24:20] Your parents is trying to take over you and whatever.

[00:24:22] Oh, no, no, no.

[00:24:23] Like, but that's not what it is.

[00:24:24] That's not really what it is.

[00:24:26] Yeah.

[00:24:27] Exactly.

[00:24:29] Yeah.

[00:24:30] Exactly.

[00:24:31] Yeah.

[00:24:31] Which is why like the most powerful tool that we have in our arsenal as human beings is

[00:24:35] our perspective.

[00:24:36] And because I was able to see her through that perspective lens, I could understand what

[00:24:41] that was.

[00:24:42] And I know how to, you know, talk to her and have these conversations about it.

[00:24:45] And eventually it was just one day when I was telling her about on set that I was working

[00:24:50] and she's just like, Oh, that's good.

[00:24:51] That's great.

[00:24:51] Oh my God.

[00:24:52] I can't believe it.

[00:24:53] I can't wait to see you on the screen.

[00:24:55] I'm like, really?

[00:24:56] Just wants to make sure you could make some money and eat.

[00:25:00] Put my mom back on the phone.

[00:25:02] Yeah.

[00:25:04] But, but ever since then, she's been a super supportive.

[00:25:07] Yeah.

[00:25:08] That really kind of like fed into the success that I've gained or still gaining is because

[00:25:15] I have that support system behind me and we have a good understanding of each other.

[00:25:20] So when, you know, things are up, things are up and you know, it's easy to understand

[00:25:24] when things are up, when things are down, where the people are going to understand you?

[00:25:27] Because that's when it could be like a really, you know, it could really wear you down and

[00:25:32] kind of like put you out.

[00:25:34] But as they understand the industry, because I've had so many conversations between them

[00:25:38] when a strike is happening, they don't go, Oh, why don't you just go down to Netflix

[00:25:41] and tell them to stop that?

[00:25:45] And you're just like, well, I hope it goes well.

[00:25:47] They're even, I don't remember who it was, but it sent me an article.

[00:25:50] It was with my mom and my dad.

[00:25:51] I was like, Whoa, you guys are reading up on my industry.

[00:25:53] Yeah.

[00:25:54] Of course.

[00:25:55] Yeah.

[00:25:55] So the support has been amazing.

[00:25:58] And that extends to like all my other family members, my, my, my siblings, my aunts, my

[00:26:04] uncles, my grandparents, like everyone is like very on board.

[00:26:10] If, if anything, some of them, they come up to me and be like, huh, so you're an actor,

[00:26:12] huh?

[00:26:13] How can I get an agent?

[00:26:14] Oh my goodness.

[00:26:16] There we go.

[00:26:16] You're the connection.

[00:26:17] All right.

[00:26:18] All right.

[00:26:19] Okay.

[00:26:20] So did any of them turn into Trekkies?

[00:26:21] Yeah.

[00:26:22] Um, I think one of my, no, yes.

[00:26:26] One of my uncles, he, he watches Star Trek.

[00:26:29] He, he even got like the, he's gotten the Blu-rays since I've been on it.

[00:26:33] He's just like, Oh, that's so cool.

[00:26:35] He has to connect his edition.

[00:26:36] And he has like my, um, I have 50, uh, Lieutenant Christopher pins that were printed.

[00:26:41] So it's a limited edition.

[00:26:42] I wasn't able to get my hands on one specifically for him.

[00:26:45] And now it's a convention bag.

[00:26:49] Oh yeah.

[00:26:50] I know.

[00:26:51] I was so excited.

[00:26:52] It is so cool.

[00:26:53] So cool.

[00:26:53] Oh, that's awesome.

[00:26:55] Oh my God.

[00:26:55] I love that so much.

[00:26:57] You know, I love, I like how you were talking about, um, uh, the perspective, being able

[00:27:03] to see people from a different perspective, which of course is, you know, or somebody through

[00:27:08] somebody else's perspective.

[00:27:09] And of course it's a beautiful gift for an actor, but I think about like, I was thinking

[00:27:14] while you were talking, like what a valuable gift that is for all of us.

[00:27:19] Right.

[00:27:19] Um, that, you know, as an actor, you're, you're trained to look at through other people's perspectives,

[00:27:25] but wow.

[00:27:27] And you know, what a, what a beautiful thing.

[00:27:30] Um, it is that we could learn, you know, the rest of us could learn from your skill.

[00:27:36] You know, I was just thinking about like learning to look at my mother as the human being that

[00:27:43] she is and not as the title of mother and how long it took me to do that in my life.

[00:27:51] You know, I mean, you know, in my late forties and early fifties, learning to take the title

[00:27:58] off of her and look at her as the human being that she is.

[00:28:02] And, and therefore get a much richer understanding of her and the choices that she's made and,

[00:28:09] you know, everything, you know, and being able to give her some grace instead of holding

[00:28:13] on to that, you know, all those childhood resentments of you didn't do this or X, Y,

[00:28:18] and Z, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:28:19] Like, like all of us have all the time, you know, but being able to really look at her

[00:28:26] as a human being and accept her for that.

[00:28:29] This is beautiful.

[00:28:30] Yeah.

[00:28:31] Like I just, I have, I don't have a question there.

[00:28:33] I just love that.

[00:28:34] But I love, I loved it too.

[00:28:36] Cause when you were saying, and I was like, wow, I said, maybe that's because you're an

[00:28:39] only child that you were able to go through that.

[00:28:42] Cause I have children, I have children your age and yet at, yeah, no.

[00:28:49] I feel like everyone arrives at that perspective is just either they arrive by their own volition.

[00:28:57] They, they did the, the, you know, work, they go to, they try to understand, or just one day,

[00:29:03] they're just like, ah, I finally get it.

[00:29:05] Yeah.

[00:29:07] I look at my mom through that perspective.

[00:29:10] But my dad, I looked at him through a different perspective.

[00:29:13] Like if he's the one that I put the title on because, um, for the first 12 years of my life,

[00:29:17] it's just been me and my mom alone in Jamaica.

[00:29:20] My dad was still in my life, but he was in country.

[00:29:23] So he was still supporting me and everything.

[00:29:25] And when I came up here, uh, it was a complete different energy going for my mom who literally

[00:29:30] doesn't want me to lift a finger to do this to my dad.

[00:29:33] It's just like, it's time to mow the lawn.

[00:29:35] It's time to do these dishes.

[00:29:36] I'm like, what are you talking about?

[00:29:38] It's like, no, that's why I had you.

[00:29:40] I'm like, no one told me it's signed up for this.

[00:29:43] So I always saw him as like the authoritative figure.

[00:29:47] And that was from, uh, one, and there was things that he would do that I just like,

[00:29:51] didn't understand as compared to my mom.

[00:29:53] But as I got older, I find myself in certain situations where I start acting like my dad

[00:29:59] in order to like get through this or to, um, learn something from this.

[00:30:04] And I'm just like, wow, I can't believe this is what you've been teaching.

[00:30:07] It's like straight up.

[00:30:08] Mr. Miyagi is like wax on, wax off.

[00:30:09] What does it have to do with Kung Fu?

[00:30:10] This has nothing to do with Kung Fu.

[00:30:12] It's going to come to a situation where you're waxing on and waxing off and you're, you're

[00:30:17] kicking butt.

[00:30:18] And I was like, this is crazy.

[00:30:20] Yeah.

[00:30:21] Sometimes you arrive at that, those perspectives through experiences in your life.

[00:30:25] And you can fully see, uh, what that person was trying to tell you.

[00:30:29] Cause you never know someone until like you walk in their shoe, you know what I'm saying?

[00:30:32] So you had to, so I had to arrive at that from my dad from a different journey.

[00:30:37] Mm.

[00:30:39] Yeah.

[00:30:39] Yeah.

[00:30:40] That's beautiful.

[00:30:41] I got other questions for you.

[00:30:43] Like I'm going back to this childhood because I'm, I'm, I want to go to the development of Orville

[00:30:50] Cummings, you know?

[00:30:52] Um, you know, so when you are growing up, like you come to, you come from Jamaica and then

[00:30:57] you go through like culture shock, right.

[00:31:00] In, in Canada.

[00:31:02] Uh, but it was, um, you said it was pretty diverse area that you grew up in.

[00:31:07] So, I mean, how was it handling coming from a, I'm interested in a perspective of coming

[00:31:13] from a world that was all black or majority black to this other world where like, you know,

[00:31:21] black people are not the majority and, you know, and it's not just our skin, like, right.

[00:31:26] It's your culture, you know, you're leaving everything.

[00:31:29] How was that transition for you?

[00:31:31] Yeah.

[00:31:32] Yeah.

[00:31:32] So that transition for me, um, went a little bit.

[00:31:39] It was great.

[00:31:40] I'll just say, I'll just keep it short.

[00:31:42] I say it was great because, um, I had so much like time knowing that I was going to come

[00:31:48] to Canada or go to a foreign place.

[00:31:51] So, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm watching my television and I'm getting my perspective

[00:31:55] and based on like what my parents tell me about, like, you know, certain type of people,

[00:31:59] uh, kind of like, kind of like, uh, affects how I, you know, kind of like see them before

[00:32:05] I even meet them.

[00:32:06] So up here, I was just like, okay.

[00:32:09] Uh, these, these type people like this is, it's like very like narrow minded, like ways

[00:32:13] of looking at people.

[00:32:14] But as I got here, hanging out with the kids, I'm just like, okay, the white kids are probably

[00:32:18] not going to like me.

[00:32:19] The black kids are going to think I'm cool.

[00:32:21] I don't know how to talk to the Asian kids.

[00:32:23] I like Indian people because I'm a third Indian.

[00:32:26] So let's go.

[00:32:27] And then when I got here, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[00:32:29] You mean it doesn't matter?

[00:32:31] Nah.

[00:32:33] All my time.

[00:32:34] I've been trying to like figure out how to talk to you versus you when you guys are in

[00:32:37] the same group already liking the same stuff.

[00:32:39] Yeah.

[00:32:40] Shut up.

[00:32:42] You're all Canadians.

[00:32:44] You're all Canadians.

[00:32:45] Yeah.

[00:32:45] So it was very, it was very like welcoming and warm to see that because I put so much

[00:32:50] pressure on myself to try to fit in.

[00:32:52] I felt like funny enough.

[00:32:55] I felt like in, in the school in Jamaica, I had a harder time fitting in.

[00:32:59] And now when there's not no race as like a factor as to like who hangs out with you and

[00:33:05] whatever, people start looking at different things.

[00:33:07] And at least the school I went to was to hang out with the other boys.

[00:33:12] I needed to be as big as them.

[00:33:14] And I wasn't very small in stature.

[00:33:16] I need to be as tough as them.

[00:33:19] Wasn't as tough as these guys.

[00:33:21] It's crazy.

[00:33:21] I'm like, how are you hitting the ball that hard?

[00:33:23] This is crazy.

[00:33:25] Or I needed to be as intelligent as them.

[00:33:29] And I felt like I didn't meet their requirements and I felt it more because it

[00:33:33] was, you know, kids don't have any filter.

[00:33:36] Yeah, right.

[00:33:37] You don't want to hang out with you because of X, Y, Z.

[00:33:40] And I'm like, this is crazy.

[00:33:42] So it was hard for me to get my bearings there.

[00:33:44] I felt like if I stayed in Jamaica a little bit longer, I would have because I was still

[00:33:48] coming into my own and I was a very sheltered kid.

[00:33:50] So these kids had different upbringings.

[00:33:52] So we just, we weren't brought up on the same lessons.

[00:33:55] So I felt like I would have adjusted, but like, it was such a weird feeling, not adjusting

[00:33:59] to my home town, my homeschool in Jamaica.

[00:34:02] And then coming up into a foreign land and everyone's just like, ah, new kids here.

[00:34:06] Ah, let's party.

[00:34:07] Like literally my first friend in school.

[00:34:13] Um, he was sitting in front of me and he turns around and he, he offers me some candy.

[00:34:19] And I'm so, yeah, I'll take it.

[00:34:20] And he's like, you want to be my friend?

[00:34:22] I'm like, all right, sure.

[00:34:24] That was so easy.

[00:34:26] I love that.

[00:34:27] I'm like, I'm like stressing over nothing.

[00:34:30] I'm wearing my shirt incorrectly.

[00:34:31] I'm like, I'm trying to look like dapper or whatever.

[00:34:33] I'm like, I don't even have a sense of style.

[00:34:35] I just put on something that I do.

[00:34:37] So fresh friends.

[00:34:38] Yeah, literally like, like the bow tie and the cap and everything.

[00:34:43] It's crazy.

[00:34:46] You want to be my friend.

[00:34:49] That is the cutest thing ever.

[00:34:53] That is awesome.

[00:34:54] And you got candy.

[00:34:55] You got candy.

[00:35:01] It's such a relief to hear about somebody going someplace and it was easy and it was fun.

[00:35:05] And you got candy.

[00:35:06] It's like, there's, there's hope in the world.

[00:35:08] Yeah.

[00:35:08] Yeah.

[00:35:10] Cause sometimes it just does not turn out that well.

[00:35:13] That's what I was worried about.

[00:35:15] Yeah.

[00:35:15] So glad it did though.

[00:35:17] Wow.

[00:35:18] Wow.

[00:35:20] You still live in Canada.

[00:35:22] You live in.

[00:35:23] Toronto.

[00:35:24] Yes.

[00:35:25] Yeah.

[00:35:26] Yeah.

[00:35:26] For now.

[00:35:27] I am, I am planning on moving out of the city to the United States to the

[00:35:37] the weather and the work, you know, the winter's looming around the corner.

[00:35:43] I see these trees dying every day.

[00:35:45] And I'm like, Oh, ready?

[00:35:47] Oh, ready?

[00:35:48] Oh my God.

[00:35:49] It's coming for me.

[00:35:51] It's coming for me.

[00:35:52] It's coming for me.

[00:35:53] It's coming for me.

[00:35:54] The winter is not nice.

[00:35:56] It is not, man.

[00:35:57] It's, it's a beast.

[00:35:59] I remember the close, as close as I've gotten to that far, like north is either like the

[00:36:04] times I was in Chicago or no Dearborn.

[00:36:08] And then, but like, I went to school in Syracuse, New York and you know, I don't know what possessed

[00:36:15] me, but I was there.

[00:36:16] Right.

[00:36:16] Like my little Southern ass was in Syracuse, like seeing all the time, you know, and I

[00:36:23] mean, and it never stopped snowing.

[00:36:26] Never, especially when we, especially in the nineties, it just never started.

[00:36:30] No.

[00:36:30] Right.

[00:36:31] It was insane.

[00:36:32] It was insane.

[00:36:32] It was insane.

[00:36:33] It was just like, you know, and it's like, I was not there in the nineties.

[00:36:36] I was there in the nineties.

[00:36:37] No, I was 80.

[00:36:38] Yeah.

[00:36:39] You were, you were a couple of years before me, but dude, I mean, it was sick.

[00:36:44] And I was like, Oh my God, I don't care if I ever see snow again.

[00:36:49] I mean, just like, you know, constantly.

[00:36:52] I'm like, and they don't cancel class for this shit.

[00:36:55] It's six feet of snow outside.

[00:36:57] Like, why am I traipsing across the world?

[00:36:59] I was worse than her.

[00:37:00] I was 45.

[00:37:01] I was an hour away from you and Oswego, which is right on Lake Ontario.

[00:37:04] Oh, wow.

[00:37:05] Yeah.

[00:37:05] Yeah.

[00:37:06] Let me tell you.

[00:37:08] They never cancel class.

[00:37:09] Lake effect snow.

[00:37:10] Lake effect snow right here.

[00:37:12] They don't cancel class for it.

[00:37:12] You know, like you put your hand here, like, is my hand really there?

[00:37:16] Cause I can't see it.

[00:37:18] It looks like a blizzard and I still have to go to class.

[00:37:22] They have ropes out.

[00:37:23] You have to follow the ropes.

[00:37:25] Wait.

[00:37:25] Oh my God.

[00:37:26] Gotta get out of that.

[00:37:27] Yeah.

[00:37:27] Yeah.

[00:37:28] I don't blame you.

[00:37:28] Yeah.

[00:37:28] So you're going to leave little Hollywood and go to big Hollywood.

[00:37:32] Right.

[00:37:33] Yes.

[00:37:34] Big Hollywood.

[00:37:35] That's correct.

[00:37:35] And you, and you may end up back in Toronto.

[00:37:42] That's how.

[00:37:43] That's how.

[00:37:43] That's what they're going to film.

[00:37:45] That's where everything is shooting.

[00:37:47] I'm just going to do it for myself as soon as I get there.

[00:37:50] You're going to ship you back.

[00:37:51] How we need you on a flight back.

[00:37:52] I'm like, ship you.

[00:37:54] Ship you right back.

[00:37:55] Keep an apartment there.

[00:37:57] Whatever you do.

[00:37:57] Cause we're, we're at, we're hoping, we're actually really hoping that you'll make some

[00:38:02] appearances on Starfleet Academy.

[00:38:04] You just took the words right out of my mouth.

[00:38:07] Oh yeah.

[00:38:07] We got to, I mean, it makes all the sense in the world to have that bridge crew back on

[00:38:13] TV.

[00:38:14] Cause I believe they were, uh, they did not get their due.

[00:38:18] No.

[00:38:19] And I believe.

[00:38:20] Neither bridge crew.

[00:38:22] No, none of them.

[00:38:23] Right.

[00:38:24] None of the bridge crew.

[00:38:25] Right.

[00:38:25] I don't know why discovery fans have this love affair with the bridge crew that seems

[00:38:31] like Paramount just did not understand.

[00:38:34] And, um, I need to see them again.

[00:38:37] Um, I believe we got gypped in the fifth season because, um, our, we had, we, we had

[00:38:44] new people come in, which I was happy with them, but what happened to my, my original

[00:38:48] crew?

[00:38:49] I mean, I understand the assignment, but I need to, I needed more, you know, especially

[00:38:54] for that last, last season.

[00:38:56] I think, um, it was very heartbreaking that, um, everybody wasn't together.

[00:39:00] So I'm really hoping, um, we get to see you guys, uh, and start from the academy.

[00:39:06] I know you can't tell us anything if it is, but I definitely, uh, would like that.

[00:39:11] Just let you know Paramount.

[00:39:12] If you're listening.

[00:39:13] And we know you are.

[00:39:16] And we are.

[00:39:18] We got the search tags when someone says start.

[00:39:20] Yeah.

[00:39:22] Yeah.

[00:39:23] We already know.

[00:39:25] Oh yeah.

[00:39:27] I'm just saying like, it would make our little hearts happy to see you back.

[00:39:31] Yeah.

[00:39:31] Well, I'm glad to hear that.

[00:39:32] I would, uh, love to be back.

[00:39:34] Yeah.

[00:39:34] Yeah, definitely.

[00:39:35] Yeah.

[00:39:36] So what, what's coming up next for you that you can talk about?

[00:39:40] Uh, so far, what I have is I shot a feature film last year, uh, that was a supporting lead

[00:39:47] in, um, it just premiered in the, uh, Sudbury, uh, film festival yesterday.

[00:39:53] It was the first, uh, it will be coming to Toronto, um, in October.

[00:39:59] Um, what's it called?

[00:40:00] It's, it's, it's, it's called Morningside.

[00:40:03] Oh, okay.

[00:40:04] Yes.

[00:40:05] It's a film based on true events and it's just this community center, this hub, this hub

[00:40:10] of community centers.

[00:40:11] You meet all these characters.

[00:40:12] I go to this community centers for different reasons and how their lives all intertwine.

[00:40:17] And then something happens that, um, kind of shakes the whole community up that, uh, and

[00:40:25] they have to, you know, they're trying to, this is their last hurrah.

[00:40:29] Let's just say it's a very, like, uh, very good story, but it gets, it could go into

[00:40:37] very like dark and serious, uh, matters.

[00:40:40] Uh, so I'm, if the director is watching me promote this, he's just like, why is he smiling

[00:40:44] and so happy about this story?

[00:40:48] He shouldn't be smiling.

[00:40:49] He should be mean mugging.

[00:40:50] Cause I do play a very, uh, dark and serious character in that, in that movie, which is

[00:40:55] very different.

[00:40:56] It's funny enough.

[00:40:57] Um, one of the, uh, uh, PAs was, uh, from Star Trek was on set and he recognized me.

[00:41:03] He's like, or what are you doing?

[00:41:04] Yeah.

[00:41:04] I'm just like, Oh, you know, I'm on this, you know, I'm, I'm the one of the, the, the

[00:41:07] supporting lead on this movie.

[00:41:08] He's like, Oh, what do you play?

[00:41:09] And then I, and then I said, just watch.

[00:41:13] And he saw the scene and just like, wow.

[00:41:16] Then, uh, acting is called.

[00:41:23] That's right.

[00:41:24] That's right.

[00:41:25] So that movie is doing its festival run right now.

[00:41:28] Uh, it should be coming out next February in theaters and Canada and the U S.

[00:41:35] We will be looking for that.

[00:41:37] I am definitely.

[00:41:38] Put that on your, um, festival list, Sabrina.

[00:41:41] Cause we know you're going to be hitting.

[00:41:43] Already there.

[00:41:45] Already there.

[00:41:45] Already there.

[00:41:46] As this guy.

[00:41:47] Remember at the end.

[00:41:48] I know.

[00:41:49] I read the.

[00:41:50] I read the plot.

[00:41:51] Me too.

[00:41:52] I read it.

[00:41:52] I was like, Oh, awesome.

[00:41:56] Awesome.

[00:41:57] Tell me.

[00:41:57] I was fascinated by that.

[00:41:59] So, you know, I kept on going with all of the other things in internet movie database.

[00:42:04] Um, tell me a little bit about, uh, a bite of a bite of mango.

[00:42:08] Cause this is like the same director, same writer that did morning side.

[00:42:12] So, um, so, uh, this director, uh, he hit me up and, uh, he wanted me to tape for this

[00:42:21] feature, his first feature, um, by the for mango.

[00:42:24] And I'm like, yeah, yeah, of course.

[00:42:26] Or just as like right before star Trek, probably like a month before.

[00:42:29] Okay.

[00:42:30] And he needs to cast this role like ASAP because they're shooting next week.

[00:42:34] So, um, within two, three days, he told me I got the part.

[00:42:38] Uh, I pulled up to the set right away.

[00:42:40] I had, I was like, this is the fastest turnaround ever.

[00:42:43] This is crazy.

[00:42:44] I'm doing on set and everything.

[00:42:46] And, um, it turned out to be one of the best things I've done just in the industry whole,

[00:42:55] because it felt like a lot of people on set.

[00:42:57] Um, I knew them from before.

[00:42:59] Like I know them, uh, through work and we hang out and some of them are like a close friends

[00:43:04] of mine, but even the people I didn't know, we all became like really close friends.

[00:43:08] And, uh, 2020 and that movie really allowed me to change my perspective on what family is.

[00:43:15] Because now I'm, I said this to one of my friends that she's so upset if she's watching

[00:43:18] this, she's going to be like, oh, he's going to keep spreading this perspective again.

[00:43:22] I told her that, I told her that you can, uh, you can actually choose your family.

[00:43:26] Like the people who gave birth to you and are just your relatives.

[00:43:29] Oh yeah.

[00:43:30] You get to choose that.

[00:43:32] And that was such a big thing for me because I love.

[00:43:35] You're sitting with ours.

[00:43:36] Yeah, exactly.

[00:43:38] Cause I, I love my family, my, my relatives, but, um, we live so far apart from each other.

[00:43:45] Oh yeah.

[00:43:46] As much time to see each other anymore.

[00:43:48] And I'm just like, these people were hanging out all the time and we're chilling and we're

[00:43:53] doing all the things that I thought I would be doing with my family.

[00:43:57] Right.

[00:43:58] Right.

[00:43:58] And they're my family to this day.

[00:44:01] Uh, everyone in that movie is my brother, my sister, my uncle, my auntie.

[00:44:05] And it was a very special, uh, movie for me as again, it was shot in the pandemic and it was about the pandemic.

[00:44:12] This couple that, um, uh, that, uh, was having a baby and they were trying to figure out what to do with it.

[00:44:18] And, um, they couldn't really decide.

[00:44:21] So the entire story follows that main narrative with the other things going on during that time.

[00:44:26] Okay.

[00:44:26] Um, yeah.

[00:44:27] So there's a lot of political stuff in the story and a lot of like homages to like great films.

[00:44:33] Like she's got to have it and do the writing.

[00:44:35] So.

[00:44:36] She's got to have it.

[00:44:37] This movie has one of the highest ratings I've ever seen on internet movie.

[00:44:41] It's got an 8.8 critic rating.

[00:44:44] And I haven't really checked.

[00:44:46] That's crazy.

[00:44:47] Oh, wow.

[00:44:47] I always check the rating.

[00:44:48] Um, but, uh, you know, you can only get it on one streamer.

[00:44:54] It's like, uh, you know, it's one of those things where, okay, it's a black film and it's going to be on the all black channel.

[00:44:58] And, uh, you know, it's hard to, hard to find it.

[00:45:01] So if you can look for it, bite of a mango or morning side, which will come out later, check it out.

[00:45:06] It is streaming.

[00:45:07] Now it's got an 8.8, which I'm telling you, I don't see 8.8 very often at all.

[00:45:13] What streaming platform is it on?

[00:45:16] All black.

[00:45:16] Oh, okay.

[00:45:17] All black.

[00:45:18] Okay.

[00:45:19] The only place you can get it right now.

[00:45:21] You know what?

[00:45:21] Go in there and hit, you know, add to watch list that.

[00:45:24] Yes.

[00:45:25] Yes.

[00:45:25] Add to watch list.

[00:45:26] Okay.

[00:45:28] If they have a thumbs up, do a thumbs up, you know, do all of that stuff.

[00:45:33] Yeah.

[00:45:33] That's why it's there.

[00:45:35] It's not there.

[00:45:36] It's there for a reason.

[00:45:37] Right.

[00:45:38] If you want to see a film and it's not streaming yet, hit add to watch list and it

[00:45:43] registers.

[00:45:44] And do the same thing for Star Trek discovery.

[00:45:46] I mean, and watch, I always say, watch it, just watch it and make sure you say, I like

[00:45:50] it.

[00:45:51] Give it a thumbs up.

[00:45:52] You know, no matter where you're watching it.

[00:45:54] I know it's only on the platforms for Paramount, but still, if you're honest, not on Pluto yet,

[00:46:01] but in Paramount, just make sure every time they ask you, do you like this?

[00:46:04] Vote for your favorite episodes.

[00:46:07] Yes.

[00:46:08] Right.

[00:46:08] Your presidential candidates vote for your episodes.

[00:46:11] That's right.

[00:46:12] That's right.

[00:46:13] Get it.

[00:46:13] Get used to it.

[00:46:14] Get in there.

[00:46:15] Pushing the button.

[00:46:16] Come on, folks.

[00:46:18] Use your football power.

[00:46:20] That's right.

[00:46:21] Don't forget your purple cake.

[00:46:23] Oh yeah.

[00:46:24] See?

[00:46:24] Y'all think I'm playing.

[00:46:26] No, I'm getting my purple cake.

[00:46:28] I'm getting my purple cake.

[00:46:30] I'm going to put a big S on it.

[00:46:32] Ooh, that's going to look good.

[00:46:33] Oh yeah.

[00:46:35] It's called Bite of a Mango?

[00:46:39] Bite of a Mango.

[00:46:39] Bite of a Mango.

[00:46:40] Yeah, that's correct.

[00:46:41] Okay.

[00:46:41] So when I Google it right now, it says that you can watch it on YouTube, TV, Prime subscription,

[00:46:50] Sling, Amazon Prime, and YouTube TV.

[00:46:54] Awesome.

[00:46:55] Internet Movie Database has got wrong information.

[00:46:58] Mm-hmm.

[00:46:58] Good.

[00:46:59] That's awesome.

[00:47:01] Yeah.

[00:47:01] So I will be going on my Prime account.

[00:47:04] I'll put the link in the description of the show so that people can click on it.

[00:47:10] Yeah.

[00:47:10] Morningside is going to premiere in February.

[00:47:13] I cannot wait.

[00:47:13] That sounds so good.

[00:47:14] Don't forget us from Morningside.

[00:47:15] We'd love to help you promote that if you need it.

[00:47:19] Mm-hmm.

[00:47:20] We're always here for that.

[00:47:21] I did want to ask you, I know when we were in Vegas, you talked about, and then you, I

[00:47:28] think a while ago, you had told me you had to do a vending thing.

[00:47:31] Yes.

[00:47:31] And I was, can you tell us about your, your company that you're a T-shirt, you have T-shirts

[00:47:38] and.

[00:47:38] Oh yeah.

[00:47:39] A hundred percent.

[00:47:40] Again, it's not a visual podcast, but I'll show you guys.

[00:47:42] Oh, I love that.

[00:47:43] That's the one.

[00:47:44] That's the one.

[00:47:44] That's the one.

[00:47:45] You guys, you guys have to see this art.

[00:47:48] You have to go to his website.

[00:47:50] Yes.

[00:47:50] Yes.

[00:47:51] We'll have the website in the description also.

[00:47:54] Yes.

[00:47:54] I'll have that too.

[00:47:56] Um, the, so I have essentially, uh, two companies.

[00:48:01] Uh, my first company is a resistance band company that I started during the pandemic.

[00:48:05] Uh, it was, it was more so for myself because I love going to the gym and I couldn't.

[00:48:11] So I went the resistance band route and I've tried a bunch and there's always something

[00:48:16] wrong with the one I got.

[00:48:18] It was either.

[00:48:19] Right.

[00:48:21] It's either the thin weird ones or the tube ones.

[00:48:24] I get tangled.

[00:48:25] Yeah.

[00:48:25] I even, I even like broke one of them and not to say I'm like the Hulk or anything, but

[00:48:29] I kind of like, so I was just doing some research as to like, you know, what the problems of

[00:48:34] resistance bands are and is there any alternative?

[00:48:37] And I found, um, this new type of like product that they were kind of like doing, which is

[00:48:42] like a fabricated resistance band.

[00:48:44] That was a long, they've had the fabric one for years, but it's like mainly for like leg

[00:48:48] and lower body workouts.

[00:48:50] And I created a long version of it.

[00:48:52] I'm like, Ooh, let me order this.

[00:48:53] And I use it.

[00:48:54] I'm like, Oh, I love this.

[00:48:55] I'm like, no one knows about this.

[00:48:56] It's crazy.

[00:48:57] So I got creative because I got a lot of time.

[00:49:02] That damn pandemic.

[00:49:03] They don't do it to you.

[00:49:06] Well, I had a lot of time.

[00:49:07] So I've been in this company called Taptain Fitness, where, um, my goal was to, um, you

[00:49:13] know, change people's perspective on what, uh, you need to be fake.

[00:49:17] Cause like now they're telling us that we can't go to the gym to work out, but I'm just

[00:49:21] like, they can't stop you.

[00:49:23] And for a lot of people, you know, we can do a calisthenics workout, work out with your

[00:49:25] body.

[00:49:26] But if you know, you want a little bit more juice than that, you know, you're going to

[00:49:28] need some resistance.

[00:49:29] And these resistance band really truly was helping me because I was like, wow, I'm even

[00:49:33] in more shape than I was at the gym and feel tired all the time because my, my, my, my

[00:49:37] joints aren't aching.

[00:49:39] This is crazy.

[00:49:39] Wow.

[00:49:40] I wanted to like, uh, spread that with people.

[00:49:43] And because I started this company, it allowed me to connect with more of my friends and like

[00:49:48] get them outside and we could be meet at the park.

[00:49:50] Everyone got their bands and we all would just do group workouts and I would lead the

[00:49:54] workouts and it was a great way.

[00:49:56] And I built a community and I kind of learned how to be a better leader through that venture.

[00:50:00] And that was really, uh, very important to me.

[00:50:04] And my other outlet outside of that was painting.

[00:50:07] And I would always do these painting.

[00:50:09] My girlfriend loves all these painting, but I just think she's biased because I'm like,

[00:50:12] I'm not Picasso, but all my paintings.

[00:50:15] Uh, please don't be Picasso.

[00:50:16] Yes, he is.

[00:50:17] Yes, he is.

[00:50:18] He's, he's better than Picasso.

[00:50:19] Like, I'm pretty shocked.

[00:50:21] Like now I'm just saying like his, his, what we saw the little bit of your art that we

[00:50:26] saw was amazing.

[00:50:28] It's absolutely beautiful.

[00:50:28] Just astounding.

[00:50:29] It's gorgeous.

[00:50:30] I love the colors.

[00:50:31] Thank you.

[00:50:31] They're so earthy and so real.

[00:50:34] Yeah.

[00:50:35] I love to do earth on colors.

[00:50:37] So when I do my paintings, I always wanted to kind of like invoke an emotion.

[00:50:40] I mean, obviously it's art, so it's subjective, but I do have specific ways I want people

[00:50:45] to feel.

[00:50:47] Um, this one is just like for those of you, you know, cause it's not a visual podcast.

[00:50:51] You can, it's just imagine two people kissing and it's the moment right before the kiss,

[00:50:55] which is the most intense moment.

[00:50:56] And the moment that's like captured forever.

[00:50:58] And I wanted to theme it after one of my favorite chocolate bars, the Reese's buttercups.

[00:51:04] So when the color palette kind of came from that, it was called the painting cocoa butter

[00:51:07] kisses.

[00:51:08] Oh, I love it.

[00:51:12] Oh, I love it.

[00:51:14] I love it.

[00:51:16] I'm in love with that.

[00:51:17] Wow.

[00:51:18] That brings up all kinds of memories.

[00:51:21] The fact that like, it's like a zoom closeup of that moment.

[00:51:25] And like, and it's just like, I mean, oh, I'd love to talk about perspective, you

[00:51:30] know, and those beautiful black.

[00:51:32] We get screen print.

[00:51:33] Yeah, that's right.

[00:51:36] Such beautiful.

[00:51:36] Oh, beautiful.

[00:51:38] Yes.

[00:51:38] So I do a lot of my paintings.

[00:51:40] Some of them are a bit out there because it's a lot of like, it's a lot of like women.

[00:51:47] And it's like a lot of them are just in the nude.

[00:51:50] And so my parents always asked me, why are you always painting naked women?

[00:51:53] And I'm my answer is so lame.

[00:51:55] I'm like, because I don't know how to draw dudes.

[00:51:56] I just I'll just end up with a square.

[00:51:58] But when you draw a woman, you have to do a lot of curves.

[00:52:01] Yeah, that that is satisfying to me, like painting.

[00:52:04] So that's where I found the comfort in doing it.

[00:52:07] Yeah.

[00:52:08] Going to my parents house, you see some painting is like, whoa, you guys really put this out

[00:52:12] there to let everyone see.

[00:52:13] That one was a risky one.

[00:52:14] There's one where it's like a lady.

[00:52:16] He's laying naked on the cloud and the hand of God comes down and strikes her with thunder.

[00:52:20] It's it's it's really out there.

[00:52:22] Wow.

[00:52:22] But I need to see that one.

[00:52:24] But to condense stories about each of my art, a couple of friends have told me that, you

[00:52:32] know, I should put my art on things.

[00:52:34] And, you know, I don't really like I'm not the kind of guy that always wants to capitalize

[00:52:38] off something per se, just for the sake of profit, unless I enjoy doing it.

[00:52:44] So I made the shirt for myself and I liked wearing it.

[00:52:47] I'm like, oh, I like this.

[00:52:48] I go out and people are like, oh, this is a nice shirt.

[00:52:50] This is cool.

[00:52:51] And this one's like, where can I get it?

[00:52:52] I'm like, you can't.

[00:52:52] Haha, it's only one.

[00:52:54] It's like, well, get me one, please.

[00:52:55] I'll pay for it.

[00:52:56] I'm like, okay, fine.

[00:52:58] And then one one one one asked into another answer.

[00:53:01] There's a demand for it because I felt really I wanted my art to be very like exclusive.

[00:53:09] But I always do one little thing to change it.

[00:53:12] So it's not completely like the original.

[00:53:16] Wait a minute.

[00:53:17] What about that?

[00:53:18] I was like, haha, I have the original.

[00:53:25] I love that.

[00:53:26] Yeah.

[00:53:26] So where can people like if they want to like look at your art?

[00:53:30] Where should where should they go?

[00:53:32] So this business is very new.

[00:53:35] New.

[00:53:35] I mean, like a couple of weeks that I really, you know, created like and we caught you right

[00:53:41] in the beginning.

[00:53:41] Yeah, you're probably right in the production.

[00:53:43] Like I'm I've developed like an Etsy page for it.

[00:53:47] In the future, I will be moving to an independent website.

[00:53:51] Cool.

[00:53:52] But for now, when I have the time to go through all that much time that dedicates to that,

[00:53:57] but I'm in the process of moving right now and dealing with my visa.

[00:54:00] So that's kind of like in an automated state where it's just like it's there.

[00:54:03] And if you want it, you buy it, it'll get to you.

[00:54:05] I promise.

[00:54:06] And when in a couple of months, I'm going to put up a lot more designs because I have

[00:54:10] so many designs that I vectorize to go up there.

[00:54:12] I have a full plan.

[00:54:13] I just need to make sure when I start that I'm fully locked in.

[00:54:16] So that's so exciting.

[00:54:18] Exciting for real.

[00:54:19] Yes.

[00:54:20] Yeah.

[00:54:20] The funny thing about the vendor thing that I was like a couple of weeks ago, I've never

[00:54:25] done a vendor before and I want to like, like selling a product like so it's like, put

[00:54:32] both businesses out there.

[00:54:33] I'm saying I don't even have a name for this t shirt company.

[00:54:35] So I just like I'm like, what did I call it?

[00:54:37] So I ended up calling it Coco XOXOA is how it's spelled.

[00:54:42] Oh, okay.

[00:54:43] I'm just like I put it on this like cool little template and I put the design.

[00:54:47] I'm like, oh, wow.

[00:54:48] Did I just come up with a logo in like five minutes is crazy.

[00:54:52] I'll make some customizations to it later because I do also want because again, because

[00:54:57] I'm sharing my art.

[00:54:58] I kind of just want to go all the way with it.

[00:55:00] Yeah, there's more details.

[00:55:03] I want to add to the design that I wasn't able to add in the painting.

[00:55:06] So be a little even more different, but it'll be unique on its own.

[00:55:09] And at the back, I want to share some of my poetry that I've been writing throughout

[00:55:13] the years.

[00:55:14] Oh my goodness.

[00:55:15] Little snippets of it here and there.

[00:55:17] Just little quotables.

[00:55:18] And you're like, oh, that's nice.

[00:55:19] It's like a nice little kiss, you know?

[00:55:21] So yeah.

[00:55:23] So that's where that's at right now.

[00:55:25] You know what?

[00:55:26] I am so in love with you right now.

[00:55:30] I'm just going to put that out on blast right now.

[00:55:34] You're just speaking my language, brother.

[00:55:37] He's an actor.

[00:55:38] He's an artist.

[00:55:40] He's a painter.

[00:55:41] He's a writer.

[00:55:42] He's a poet.

[00:55:43] Yeah.

[00:55:45] Renaissance man.

[00:55:46] Renaissance man.

[00:55:47] That's right.

[00:55:49] I'm like, what can a hit list man do?

[00:55:51] You know what would be cool?

[00:55:52] Like when you start working in these, when you're working in these conventions, you can

[00:55:55] have some of your art out there to sell as long along with your, your autograph.

[00:56:00] Your autograph.

[00:56:01] Yeah.

[00:56:01] Yeah, I could.

[00:56:02] Yeah.

[00:56:03] I've definitely thought about it.

[00:56:04] It's funny thing with the resistance bands.

[00:56:07] Before I even signed to Star Trek, I already thought of the colors I want.

[00:56:10] So it's red, yellow and black.

[00:56:11] Mm-hmm.

[00:56:12] One color off of just, it just being a complete discovery color, like red, yellow, and then

[00:56:16] blue.

[00:56:17] Yeah.

[00:56:18] And it's the same kind of like a tint as the yellow that I wear in the thing.

[00:56:22] So I was just like, whoa, the synchronicity is kind of crazy.

[00:56:24] Yeah.

[00:56:25] It's all meant to be.

[00:56:26] I don't know if I accidentally dodged a lawsuit or not.

[00:56:28] I was just going to say, yeah, watch this though.

[00:56:31] It'll be on in a minute.

[00:56:33] As long as you don't got that Delta on there.

[00:56:36] That Delta's not on there.

[00:56:37] Just don't put no Deltas on there.

[00:56:38] You're fine.

[00:56:39] You're fine.

[00:56:40] You're fine.

[00:56:41] And if you do decide to change it, you know the Trekkies will flock to it.

[00:56:44] It sure will.

[00:56:46] It sure will.

[00:56:47] It sure will.

[00:56:48] I know.

[00:56:48] I know Ford will get it.

[00:56:50] I'm sorry.

[00:56:50] You need money for what?

[00:56:51] You need money.

[00:56:53] Take my money.

[00:56:54] Take my money.

[00:56:55] Please.

[00:56:56] It's funny because one of the vendors there, I went there and they were selling like little

[00:56:59] knickknacks and stuff.

[00:57:00] And I'm like, oh, these are so cool because they're all Star Trek themed.

[00:57:03] And I'm just like, wow, you know what I really wanted?

[00:57:05] I never thought I wanted.

[00:57:06] I'm just like, I asked him and I'm just like, I know you're not going to have it, but

[00:57:10] you should get this.

[00:57:12] I said, do you have a Star Trek shaped Guasha?

[00:57:16] And he's like, huh?

[00:57:17] And I'm like, a Guasha.

[00:57:18] You know what a Guasha is?

[00:57:18] Do you guys know what a Guasha is?

[00:57:20] It's like, no.

[00:57:21] It's like an emerald.

[00:57:22] It's like an emerald or jade stone that you use on your face, your jawline and your eyebrows

[00:57:28] to do a lymphatic drainage.

[00:57:30] Oh yeah.

[00:57:31] Okay.

[00:57:31] The blood gets clogged in her face because we don't massage it a lot.

[00:57:34] So you can wait to like get the blood flow.

[00:57:36] It makes your skin nice and plump.

[00:57:37] Those stones.

[00:57:38] Yeah.

[00:57:38] Yeah.

[00:57:40] My partner is very big.

[00:57:42] She's very big on like holistic stuff.

[00:57:45] They're in jade, right?

[00:57:47] It's like a roller or something.

[00:57:48] Yeah.

[00:57:49] There's the roller and then there's the Guasha, which is more of like a manual kind of thing.

[00:57:52] Okay.

[00:57:53] Oh.

[00:57:53] It's like, yo, it's almost shapes like the sign.

[00:57:56] Almost like a delta.

[00:57:57] Oh, okay.

[00:57:58] Yeah.

[00:57:58] The delta sign.

[00:57:59] So I'm just like, if you just carve it just a little bit more like the tip, you know,

[00:58:02] you can, you know, they can't cover you because I'm like, yo, that's how a gouache

[00:58:09] is basically shaped.

[00:58:10] Just make a little adjustment to make it a little bit closer.

[00:58:12] Yeah.

[00:58:12] I mean, like, you know, they don't own every delta in the world.

[00:58:15] They do not.

[00:58:16] The delta existed before this franchise.

[00:58:19] They did.

[00:58:20] They did.

[00:58:21] They did.

[00:58:22] Exactly.

[00:58:23] But we would buy it.

[00:58:24] Yes.

[00:58:25] I would not know what it was, but I'd be like, look at this pretty delta stone.

[00:58:28] It's so pretty.

[00:58:29] And she'd be like trying to explain it to me, but now you rub it on your face, honey.

[00:58:33] And I'm like, I don't care.

[00:58:34] It's a delta stone.

[00:58:35] Exactly.

[00:58:36] Like, it's really going to be a, you know it's going to be a paperweight, right?

[00:58:40] Just going to sit right here.

[00:58:41] If I look at it, it would be very happy.

[00:58:43] Where other Star Trek things of mine are sitting.

[00:58:46] I know, right?

[00:58:48] Sitting right here.

[00:58:51] Oh my gosh.

[00:58:52] I have Star Trek tarot cards, so you know this is everything.

[00:58:57] That's true.

[00:58:57] Wow.

[00:58:58] I didn't even know there were Star Trek tarot cards.

[00:59:00] I got them at the convention.

[00:59:02] Star Trek Uno cards.

[00:59:03] And why do I not have the Star Trek tarot cards?

[00:59:05] Why?

[00:59:06] Because Sabrina didn't get her sister a deck of Star Trek tarot cards.

[00:59:09] I was trying to tell you all it was over.

[00:59:10] You weren't there that year.

[00:59:11] Right.

[00:59:12] See, it was the first year we went together.

[00:59:14] Yeah.

[00:59:14] And the guy was selling them.

[00:59:15] And the original series has the number of episodes that's exactly what you need for the tarot deck.

[00:59:21] And so every episode is one of the cards.

[00:59:24] I was like, oh, give it to me.

[00:59:25] As you said, Fran, here's my money.

[00:59:28] My money.

[00:59:28] Take my money.

[00:59:29] Please.

[00:59:29] Take it.

[00:59:31] Take it.

[00:59:31] Take it.

[00:59:32] That was the craziest thing I ever saw that had Star Trek on it.

[00:59:37] Oh, my God.

[00:59:38] So, Orva, were you, I know this is like a lame ass question, but I'm always interested to know.

[00:59:44] But were you a Trekkie in any way before you got this role?

[00:59:50] Like, or were you just like familiar with Trek and, you know, like, oh, that's cool.

[00:59:55] Like, you know, what was your deal with it?

[00:59:57] I think I was more familiar with it than a full fledged fan.

[01:00:01] I've always been a fan of sci fi just as a whole.

[01:00:04] Yeah.

[01:00:06] I've, I've grew up watching the sci fi network.

[01:00:09] Um, so I've watched a lot of like, you know, Stargate, Atlantis and all these other and Star Trek and all these other like sci fi shows.

[01:00:17] You know, as a kid, you know, God bless my heart.

[01:00:19] I didn't understand what commercials meant.

[01:00:21] I thought it meant the episode was over and a new episode started.

[01:00:24] So, I think Atlantis finished and then it go to commercials and then Star Trek came on.

[01:00:31] I'm like, okay, good.

[01:00:32] We're continuing.

[01:00:33] This is the other storyline.

[01:00:35] I thought all sci fi shows was one show.

[01:00:38] Oh, wow.

[01:00:39] When I got older, I started piecing it together.

[01:00:41] I'm like, where's this guy right now?

[01:00:43] Where was this guy?

[01:00:45] What happened?

[01:00:46] What's going on here?

[01:00:49] So it's always been in my life.

[01:00:51] Um, but it's never, uh, been something that said that I would, I was like fully like invested in until, um, when I got the audition and I went back on my way.

[01:01:02] Yeah.

[01:01:02] Star Trek came back.

[01:01:03] That's right.

[01:01:04] With discovery.

[01:01:04] They resurrected the French.

[01:01:05] And I remember watching the first, uh, season.

[01:01:09] And I was like, whoa, this is, whoa, this is different than when I was watching when I was.

[01:01:14] I could get behind this.

[01:01:16] I like.

[01:01:16] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[01:01:19] Yeah.

[01:01:19] So that kind of like got me into it.

[01:01:21] And it's like, I watched every season.

[01:01:23] Um, I think I watched.

[01:01:25] Yeah.

[01:01:25] I think I watched all three seasons before I even set foot on the set for season four.

[01:01:30] Wow.

[01:01:31] Just like first.

[01:01:32] And I'm like, yo, I'm, I'm down for this.

[01:01:33] I always wanted to be on a show that I would love to watch.

[01:01:37] Right.

[01:01:38] Yeah.

[01:01:38] Yeah.

[01:01:40] That's cool.

[01:01:41] That's really cool.

[01:01:42] I would like to be on a show that I would love to watch.

[01:01:45] No.

[01:01:46] Which that show was.

[01:01:48] I mean, right.

[01:01:49] You were too?

[01:01:50] I would too.

[01:01:52] Yes.

[01:01:52] Well, I do love to listen to us.

[01:01:55] Yeah.

[01:01:55] Yeah.

[01:01:56] Well, I'm here.

[01:01:57] You do love to listen to us.

[01:01:58] I do.

[01:01:59] Like I go back and I listen to the old, like I, I'll listen to our, I listen to our episodes

[01:02:05] over.

[01:02:06] Like I listened to them as they come out and then.

[01:02:09] Yeah.

[01:02:09] You know, like I listened to them on Spotify and then it'll be on the show.

[01:02:12] So do I.

[01:02:12] Okay.

[01:02:13] Like you're done.

[01:02:14] So do I.

[01:02:14] It'll go back.

[01:02:15] It'll.

[01:02:16] I don't listen to them on Spotify.

[01:02:18] I, I have, I have no choice but to listen to them.

[01:02:21] Then like, if you're done with it, it'll go back and loop up to some other older episode

[01:02:26] that you were like halfway through.

[01:02:28] And it was like, you didn't finish this one.

[01:02:30] Ha ha.

[01:02:30] Here it is.

[01:02:31] And then I'll just, you know, and then I'll just keep listening.

[01:02:34] I'm like, I like our show.

[01:02:35] Yeah.

[01:02:36] I forget, you know, I forget what I say half the time.

[01:02:38] So, you know, this is a nice refresher.

[01:02:41] Yeah.

[01:02:42] Yeah.

[01:02:43] Definitely.

[01:02:45] Oh man.

[01:02:46] Orville.

[01:02:47] We love you.

[01:02:48] Thank you.

[01:02:49] Good energy.

[01:02:50] Good energy.

[01:02:51] You know, I'm so glad you, you took time to come on and be on here.

[01:02:56] But like we love, we like, like Yvette said, we love the bridge crew and we always really

[01:03:01] wanted to know a lot more about those characters and you know, no shit.

[01:03:09] We know what, we know what was going on with the show, but every member of that cast made

[01:03:16] those characters in the few moments that we got with them.

[01:03:20] So compelling that our appetites are just wet for more, right?

[01:03:25] Like, we just want more of you guys.

[01:03:28] We want to know what was going on with these characters.

[01:03:30] And like, I swear to God, like, I mean, Trekkies were obsessive anyway, but they just teased

[01:03:36] us.

[01:03:36] Like I, sometimes I just want to, I feel like I want to Bart Simpson, the staff, like, like,

[01:03:42] why did you do that to us?

[01:03:44] You know, because all of you guys had these compelling backstories and we just really wanted

[01:03:48] to know you more as a character.

[01:03:50] So I really hope, I'm praying that we get to see more.

[01:03:55] Yeah.

[01:03:55] And know you more, but you guys did a great job.

[01:03:58] You particularly, you did a wonderful job and we love you.

[01:04:01] We do.

[01:04:04] Yes.

[01:04:04] Yes.

[01:04:04] Yes.

[01:04:04] We hope to see you more at cons because we, you know, want to work, work together as much

[01:04:10] as possible.

[01:04:11] So this is not the last time we'll see each other.

[01:04:15] So, you know, hopefully we'll have some more adventures together.

[01:04:19] So yeah, a hundred percent.

[01:04:20] We will.

[01:04:21] Yeah.

[01:04:22] It's so funny.

[01:04:22] Cause I talk about you guys like so much to my friends.

[01:04:26] I'm at these cool ladies.

[01:04:29] My sisters.

[01:04:30] And I do the whole performance every single time.

[01:04:36] If you haven't, if you, if you haven't followed this man on Instagram, you are missing out.

[01:04:41] Yeah.

[01:04:43] You'll end up on a page and be like, okay, what is the, what's going on here with this

[01:04:48] guy?

[01:04:48] Like he says, he's an actor on star Trek.

[01:04:51] Then he's doing, so he's talking to squirrels in the park.

[01:04:54] Then he's doing, swirling a stick.

[01:04:55] Then he's doing martial arts.

[01:04:57] What's going on with this man.

[01:04:59] He's living his best life.

[01:05:01] That's what he's doing.

[01:05:02] I'm just living my best life.

[01:05:02] That's right.

[01:05:03] And I'm just like, yo, just join me.

[01:05:05] You know, I just, one season and they get inspired to live their best life too, without

[01:05:09] like hearing of what other people might say about how you live your life.

[01:05:13] Because you know, yeah, I know it's weird to be at the park and then see a squirrel and

[01:05:17] go, and then it comes up to you.

[01:05:18] I'm like, Whoa, you understand me.

[01:05:19] It's kind of, it's kind of crazy.

[01:05:21] But like, I, I just believe in just like, not tying yourself to just being about one thing.

[01:05:28] You can have your principles and things that, you know, you hold as your core, but like,

[01:05:32] you know, explore yourself because everything, every time we step into something new, there's

[01:05:37] an opportunity to learn something from that and bring it to the core of who we are.

[01:05:40] There's nothing I do outside of acting that I don't bring back into my craft.

[01:05:44] So there's never any wasted energy.

[01:05:47] It's just like wasted, like lessons that you didn't want to learn or you didn't try to

[01:05:52] like gain from this.

[01:05:54] So just go out there, explore yourself and just be happy, man.

[01:05:59] There's just too many things in life that's going to just bring us down, make us feel bummed

[01:06:03] out because I feel it too.

[01:06:04] You know, people see me as a very positive guy and I try to bring that light all the time,

[01:06:08] but I have my off days.

[01:06:09] I have my days, like, you know, no grumpy.

[01:06:13] I feel sad.

[01:06:14] I feel off my energy, my vibe.

[01:06:16] I feel anxious about something.

[01:06:18] I feel kind of like depressed about something, but I know that that that only can last so

[01:06:23] long if I'm unless I made the conscious choice to try to do something to step out of it because

[01:06:29] there's so beauty in life, but we just were too shrouded by everything to even like take it

[01:06:34] in.

[01:06:34] Like it's crazy.

[01:06:35] If you sit at the park and just breathe in and out eight times for eight second in eight

[01:06:39] second out for just for just five, not even eight seconds for like I do that for like five

[01:06:45] minutes straight.

[01:06:45] You don't have to close your eyes.

[01:06:46] You don't have to do it like a proper meditation or whatever.

[01:06:48] It completely reverse your nervous system back to like just being neutral.

[01:06:53] And from there, you can start adding more.

[01:06:56] You can start adding that stress again, or you can look to your left, see everyone living,

[01:07:00] living their life.

[01:07:01] You can see the beauty.

[01:07:02] You can feel the wind.

[01:07:03] You can feel the energy.

[01:07:04] And then you can just have a moment to yourself because those moments outweigh like the bad

[01:07:09] years and everything.

[01:07:10] And just by being in that space and being present for that one five minute increment.

[01:07:15] And it's helped me so much because that's how I got through the pandemic.

[01:07:19] That's how I got through anything that was going in my life.

[01:07:22] I honestly felt like if I didn't step into that energy, I wouldn't be on Star Trek because

[01:07:27] I wouldn't be as open to receive that because God doesn't give you something you can't handle.

[01:07:33] And he knew that I was building my strength and I could handle this.

[01:07:36] And I came and I handled it.

[01:07:38] So that's why I'm here with you all today.

[01:07:40] So I'm truly grateful for that.

[01:07:43] Oh, you better preach baby brother.

[01:07:45] Right?

[01:07:45] Yeah.

[01:07:47] I'm going to preach baby brother.

[01:07:49] That's it.

[01:07:49] You know?

[01:07:50] Yes.

[01:07:51] We needed that word.

[01:07:52] Yeah, we did.

[01:07:54] You know, I love it.

[01:07:56] I mean, and that's what you call being free, you know?

[01:07:58] And I think there's something that the, one of the most powerful things on the face of

[01:08:02] this earth is black joy.

[01:08:05] Pure unbridled black joy.

[01:08:08] That's it.

[01:08:09] You know, that's called freedom boys and girls.

[01:08:13] So true.

[01:08:15] That was so.

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