Surrender

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[00:00:35] Eww. I would actually listen to that. I've never seen that show. Or, if you're looking for our thoughts on...

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[00:00:50] That's Hayley and I'm Sarah and this is Rewind.

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[00:01:21] I'm great.

[00:01:22] I'm missing the hood.

[00:01:26] If you're looking for...

[00:01:28] If you're looking for a podcast that isn't sung the entire way through, could you?

[00:01:32] I would have to...

[00:01:35] If you just want to hear a podcast of random TV theme songs, tune in.

[00:01:40] Because that's what we're all about.

[00:01:42] And it's so funny because for the listeners, we've been...

[00:01:45] We're kind of on this like riding high right now celebrating our love for each other.

[00:01:49] Because 2025 is fast approaching.

[00:01:52] And that'll be the anniversary year of the 20 years that we went to STLV for the first time.

[00:01:58] Which I also like...

[00:01:59] Correct me if I'm wrong, but would you not say that that trip that year was kind of what...

[00:02:03] Like confirmed like we are best friends forever?

[00:02:06] Yeah. Oh yeah.

[00:02:07] Like we've known each other years previous to that.

[00:02:10] But this was the seal of the deal.

[00:02:12] Like August is our month, our anniversary month, 20 years.

[00:02:17] So we've been gearing up not only for like our potential girls trip of a lifetime to go back to STLV,

[00:02:23] but we've also been talking about just like other things.

[00:02:25] And I'm like, we have to make a playlist.

[00:02:26] And funny enough, as I'm creating a list of like songs that have kind of been our songs throughout the 20 years,

[00:02:33] there's a lot of theme songs.

[00:02:35] Like a lot of them are theme songs.

[00:02:37] Disney, like not really like the typical...

[00:02:41] They're not shark toppers.

[00:02:42] They're not shark toppers.

[00:02:44] They're not gassed on.

[00:02:45] I just thought about like we should also just add the theme from Baywatch just because it's not like we've ever watched that.

[00:02:52] But it's like a good song.

[00:02:53] Yeah.

[00:02:54] It's good.

[00:02:54] It's good.

[00:02:56] That's great.

[00:02:56] Yeah.

[00:02:57] Yeah.

[00:02:57] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:02:59] What's going on with you?

[00:03:00] How's life?

[00:03:01] How's life?

[00:03:03] Life is fine.

[00:03:05] You know, the resting continues until morale improves.

[00:03:11] I was talking to John the other day because we were like, man, drugs are so scary and all the drugs are bad and you can't trust the street supply.

[00:03:22] And I was like, you know, because we've been watching, still brought summer up in here.

[00:03:26] We've been like watching Charlie XCX on the tubes.

[00:03:30] We just watched her like boiler room in Ibiza thing where it's just like rave music.

[00:03:37] Just like getting geared up for cleaning the house and stuff.

[00:03:41] Nothing, nothing, nothing special.

[00:03:42] So I say, you know, if we were in Ibiza and we're like at a Charlie XCX concert and there was some like a drug like cocaine there that was like super pure, like and you could test the entire batch.

[00:03:57] And there was a physician there and all of the things were in the right place and you wanted to do it.

[00:04:05] And I was like, OK, maybe we can do it.

[00:04:07] And it would only last a short time.

[00:04:09] And we would be under a physician's care the entire time.

[00:04:12] But it would be like sweet because we're like at this thing.

[00:04:14] I might consider doing it.

[00:04:16] And John goes, it's pronounced Ibiza.

[00:04:22] I love how it's like people take drugs to like let loose and be free.

[00:04:25] It's like I want this to be a controlled experiment where I get to choose how high I get, how long it lasts.

[00:04:32] I will have I'll be in a rubber room with multiple doctors.

[00:04:35] There is a guarantee that there will not be a bad trip.

[00:04:39] Is that too much?

[00:04:41] Is that too much to ask?

[00:04:42] I also wouldn't because I just know I don't want to just start down that road.

[00:04:48] I refuse.

[00:04:49] Anyway, I also like being out of control.

[00:04:51] Like I can't even tell you the last time I got drunk.

[00:04:55] Like have I been buzzed?

[00:04:56] Do I drink and have a buzz sometimes?

[00:04:58] Sure.

[00:04:59] But even then, like, yeah, like I mean, I like to kick back those Corona sunbrews these days.

[00:05:06] But when I do drink, I'm a three drink maximum kind of girl.

[00:05:09] Like as soon as I get a hint of a buzz, I'm like, oh, yes, time for a water.

[00:05:13] Like and then I'll have a drink later.

[00:05:14] Like I have no interest in losing control or saying something stupid or just not feeling like good the next day or the next hour.

[00:05:23] Like it'll turn on me so fast.

[00:05:25] Like, you know.

[00:05:27] Yeah.

[00:05:28] Getting older.

[00:05:30] Yeah.

[00:05:31] Getting older.

[00:05:32] I personally have been on a roller coaster of like what I'm intaking for my social media as a Patreons who will have heard.

[00:05:46] We were talking briefly on North Korea as one does on the Star Trek podcast.

[00:05:50] And I've been listening to some podcasts with some pretty heavy material.

[00:05:55] Right.

[00:05:55] So I was like listening to this podcast called Red Handed.

[00:05:57] They do really good true crime and they did the one on different North Korea abductions that have happened.

[00:06:02] And then there's this one called like what is it called?

[00:06:05] It's like called Mile Higher or is it?

[00:06:10] Yeah.

[00:06:11] The Mile Higher podcast.

[00:06:12] And they did a really good one on like the Vatican secret archives.

[00:06:16] And like so I've been like watching or listening to all this like, you know, true crime and scary shit.

[00:06:21] But then at night I've been watching such good feel good movies.

[00:06:24] Oh, my God.

[00:06:25] I've seen some cute ones.

[00:06:26] Like what?

[00:06:26] I just watched one on I think it was a Disney Plus and it has Bill Nighy from Love Actually.

[00:06:34] Yeah.

[00:06:34] And it's called it's based loosely on a true story.

[00:06:37] It's called A Beautiful Game.

[00:06:39] And it's about football, soccer, football in England.

[00:06:44] It was the homeless player like World Cup or whatever.

[00:06:50] I didn't know this was a thing.

[00:06:51] But every year there is a football World Cup tournament featuring teams made of people who are unhoused or homeless.

[00:06:59] And so this is the story about the team from England that went to Italy.

[00:07:06] They got to go to Rome to play.

[00:07:07] And it's somewhere different in the world.

[00:07:08] There's a Canadian team, a U.S. team, men's and women's.

[00:07:12] And it's a smaller like it's not like a huge massive football stadium.

[00:07:15] It's a smaller game because a lot of people might not be the best health.

[00:07:19] Like some of them have drug issues.

[00:07:21] Some of them have mental health issues.

[00:07:22] Some have physical limitabilities.

[00:07:24] But it was so like just sweet.

[00:07:26] And it was such an interesting thing.

[00:07:27] So the homeless World Cup League or whatever it's called.

[00:07:30] And the game was the movie was called A Beautiful Game or something.

[00:07:32] So I watched that.

[00:07:33] And then I watched one with Mark Wahlberg, who clearly seems to be in every movie that I watch these days.

[00:07:39] It was called Arthur the King.

[00:07:43] And I had to go to the website ahead of time.

[00:07:45] Does the dog die?

[00:07:46] Because I will not watch a dog movie if the dog dies.

[00:07:49] Dogs not die.

[00:07:50] And it's based on a true story of this dude who was running one of those like wilderness marathons.

[00:07:58] Where they're like in the jungle like running and canoeing and whatever.

[00:08:02] And this dog follows them along.

[00:08:04] And it's all like bummed up and like this diseased dog.

[00:08:07] And like how he just was like the unofficial member of their team and runs with them and like swims.

[00:08:12] Oh my god.

[00:08:12] It's just so sweet.

[00:08:14] So I recommend that one.

[00:08:16] Okay.

[00:08:17] And then I watched the other Mark Wahlberg movie that just came out on Netflix called The Union.

[00:08:20] It was all right.

[00:08:21] It was fun.

[00:08:22] Holly Berry and him.

[00:08:23] Oh, wow.

[00:08:24] Action.

[00:08:25] Action packed.

[00:08:26] Like action movie where she's they're like high school sweethearts.

[00:08:29] And then they didn't stay in touch.

[00:08:30] And now she's like a secret spy.

[00:08:32] And she recruits them or whatever.

[00:08:33] That's good.

[00:08:34] Sweet.

[00:08:34] Of course.

[00:08:35] We watch.

[00:08:36] Happens all the time.

[00:08:37] It does.

[00:08:38] It's a classic story.

[00:08:39] Classic love story.

[00:08:40] It's what they write the songs about.

[00:08:42] Keeping in step with the lighthearted movies we watched Civil War with Kirsten Dunst.

[00:08:51] She plays a journalist who's documenting the American Civil War that is, you know, predicted.

[00:09:00] And so it was very, it wasn't the movie that I expected, which is what all the headlines say.

[00:09:06] It's like, it's not the movie you expect because you're about a year into it.

[00:09:10] And so it's already a nightmare in the major cities.

[00:09:13] And then in like the rural farm towns, it's just kind of quiet and life is normal type of thing.

[00:09:17] Kind of like North Korea.

[00:09:18] Yeah.

[00:09:19] And just about her and the guy who played Pablo Escobar in Narcos is in it.

[00:09:27] Okay.

[00:09:28] And Kirsten Dunst's husband is in it.

[00:09:31] Oh, I love Jesse Plemons.

[00:09:32] Yeah.

[00:09:33] He's not in it for long, but he is there.

[00:09:35] And then, and another guy who was in Dune most recently.

[00:09:39] I can't remember his name, but he's in a lot of things.

[00:09:41] Anyway, it was a good, it was a good movie, but it wasn't super happy because it's kind of like,

[00:09:46] wah, wah.

[00:09:47] But, um, but that was good.

[00:09:49] Also, like YouTube is such a goldmine for fucking old movies, dude.

[00:09:52] I've watched Fern Gully and The Last Unicorn for free.

[00:09:55] And they have like Care Bears movies also for free.

[00:09:58] Probably other movies for free.

[00:10:00] I love that.

[00:10:01] We've been doing a lot of movies because we can't find a show to agree on.

[00:10:05] Like, or the ones that I find that I like, they're a little bit slow.

[00:10:08] So we're rewatching The Stand on Amazon Prime, which is the Stephen King.

[00:10:12] It's got, um, Skarsgård.

[00:10:13] It's got Amber Heard.

[00:10:15] Um, it's got James Marsden, Whoopi Goldberg.

[00:10:18] It's really, really good.

[00:10:18] We'd seen it once before and I really wanted to do a rewatch because it'll take me right into September.

[00:10:22] Cause then in September, Law and Order will be back eventually.

[00:10:25] Handmaid's Tale is coming back in September.

[00:10:28] Oh.

[00:10:29] Daryl Dixon will be coming back in September.

[00:10:31] And I'm sure there's going to be a Star Trek or something coming out pretty soon, whether it's

[00:10:34] Yeah.

[00:10:34] Or Dex or, or Strangely World or something.

[00:10:38] I don't know.

[00:10:39] It's just, you know, the fall.

[00:10:40] There's still something new that comes out in the fall.

[00:10:41] So I'll be fine.

[00:10:42] But until then, The Stand is nine episodes or eight episodes.

[00:10:45] I can handle that.

[00:10:46] I, Jerry just mentioned The Stand, the book.

[00:10:49] He says it's one of his favorite books because he was like, you should read it.

[00:10:52] And I was like, Stephen King scares me, but okay.

[00:10:55] Um, and I didn't know that they, I thought they made it into a movie.

[00:10:58] Maybe that's the firm.

[00:10:59] It was.

[00:11:00] The Stand was a made for TV movie in the late eighties.

[00:11:04] It had Gary Sinise and Molly Ringwald.

[00:11:06] So this is a remake.

[00:11:07] Oh, okay.

[00:11:08] Yeah.

[00:11:09] And it's essentially the story of like the apocalypse hit and it's a battle between good and evil

[00:11:13] like that.

[00:11:13] It's not like, it's not super scary.

[00:11:15] Like one of his other, like really, really scary.

[00:11:17] It's like Pet Sematary or Christine.

[00:11:20] It's just like, yeah, a virus kills 7 billion and all those that are the ones that just are

[00:11:27] naturally immune start having visions of either you should go here or you should go here.

[00:11:32] And it's either the devil's taunting you or the God's tempting you.

[00:11:35] And it's the kind of like the showdown of like, you know, kind of like the basic of the

[00:11:39] Bible, the apocalypse is like, who's out are you on and who wins out?

[00:11:42] And of course, like Vegas is the home base for the devil.

[00:11:46] And he played by Alexander Skarsgård.

[00:11:49] Cool.

[00:11:50] It's really good.

[00:11:51] It's quite, it's quite good.

[00:11:53] Despite the fact that Amber, I don't know.

[00:11:55] I don't know what I think about Amber Heard to be honest.

[00:11:56] I don't know what I think about both of them.

[00:11:58] I don't know who I believe on that whole thing.

[00:12:00] I'm usually quick to stand with women, but when you hear that they're just, they're

[00:12:04] abusive and they're, they're just both bad people, I think.

[00:12:07] Yeah.

[00:12:07] I think they're just both bad people.

[00:12:09] That's just the issue.

[00:12:10] And I think the problem was that she was abused, but people were sort of like

[00:12:16] dismissing that because she was also an abuser.

[00:12:19] And then I think she also like faked some injuries or something like makeup or

[00:12:23] something.

[00:12:23] And I just don't like that.

[00:12:24] Like, I don't like, I don't like it when people fuck up things for other

[00:12:28] people.

[00:12:31] Anyway, best of luck to her.

[00:12:34] And he seems to be doing just fine because he is a white man who will land

[00:12:39] on his feet.

[00:12:41] Yeah.

[00:12:41] That didn't seem to work on too well for Kevin Spacey though.

[00:12:43] He didn't really land on his feet.

[00:12:45] Yeah.

[00:12:46] That's because he's a predator.

[00:12:47] He also didn't take any responsibility or make his face show him for a long

[00:12:50] time.

[00:12:51] Whereas John Depp, at least.

[00:12:53] John Depp.

[00:12:54] John Depp.

[00:12:55] He's done some good stuff too in the past for like, I don't know.

[00:12:59] I don't want to try and defend him because I don't know shit.

[00:13:01] But I just like him better as an actor.

[00:13:04] I think he's more talented than I am.

[00:13:05] That's for sure.

[00:13:06] Agreed.

[00:13:07] I like, like.

[00:13:08] Yeah.

[00:13:09] And I'm still going to like the Johnny Depp movies and stuff.

[00:13:12] And I still, Kevin Spacey used to be my favorite actor.

[00:13:15] So I struggle with that, but he's so good.

[00:13:17] And he did not do himself any fucking favors with his weird fucking Christmas

[00:13:21] movies that like his little.

[00:13:23] House of Cards character.

[00:13:25] I'm like.

[00:13:26] Bizarro.

[00:13:27] Thinly veiled threats.

[00:13:28] I'm like, dude, just get a life.

[00:13:32] Speaking of getting a life.

[00:13:34] So I'm like, I'm slowly transcribing my Harry Potter fanfic.

[00:13:38] Right.

[00:13:38] I bought a laptop.

[00:13:39] It's coming on Monday.

[00:13:41] It's coming on Monday.

[00:13:42] I got like an Apple Mac air or some shit.

[00:13:45] I don't know.

[00:13:46] Whoa.

[00:13:46] Good.

[00:13:47] I know.

[00:13:47] That's exciting.

[00:13:49] It is exciting.

[00:13:50] And you know, I was just going to get like a shitty Lenovo, like $350 one kind of thing.

[00:13:55] And I was like, you know what?

[00:13:56] Why don't you get yourself something good that like the battery will last longer than 17 minutes

[00:14:01] and it won't get so hot that it'll melt through your lap.

[00:14:04] Yeah.

[00:14:05] That's great.

[00:14:05] Yeah.

[00:14:06] Yeah.

[00:14:06] So that's exciting.

[00:14:07] So I'll bring that when I come in like dog set and then I can like transcribe and also

[00:14:11] like make the PowerPoint for you.

[00:14:14] Yay.

[00:14:15] Yay.

[00:14:17] All right.

[00:14:18] Before we get into talking about surrender, should we do some fan sets?

[00:14:24] Let's do it.

[00:14:25] I have some updates.

[00:14:27] I was listening actually recently to Bill and Dan on their podcast because they were doing

[00:14:31] a little bit of a STLV recap.

[00:14:33] I was interested to hear what they had to say.

[00:14:35] And they brought up a really good point about fan sets is that at the show, they had their

[00:14:43] exclusive Vegas 2024 poker chip this year.

[00:14:46] It had Neelix on it.

[00:14:48] It's sold out by Thursday.

[00:14:50] Hopefully it'll be back on our website available for people to purchase.

[00:14:53] They also had an exclusive Vegas pin that had a bunch of the characters from lower decks

[00:14:57] on it.

[00:14:58] And that should be up available on the website in the near future.

[00:15:01] And it should probably sell out.

[00:15:03] So if you're interested, keep an eye out and get it fast.

[00:15:06] Other than that, they got their usual over 500 pins to collect and choose from.

[00:15:12] That is amazing.

[00:15:13] It is amazing.

[00:15:14] So get on over there, buy all 500 pins if you want.

[00:15:18] Because if you do, you get 10% off by using Trek Geeks, all caps, one word at checkout.

[00:15:25] And if you spend over 30 bucks, it's free shipping within the US.

[00:15:30] So...

[00:15:30] You're losing money by not getting pins immediately.

[00:15:35] Yep.

[00:15:36] And since our pins have character.

[00:15:39] They do.

[00:15:39] I'm so...

[00:15:42] We do.

[00:15:43] We do thank them.

[00:15:44] And also, like, good for them.

[00:15:45] Because, like, I remember when we started our podcast, they almost have, like, 100 Star

[00:15:49] Trek pins.

[00:15:50] This is so exciting.

[00:15:51] And now it's, like, 5-1-0.

[00:15:53] Like, good for them.

[00:15:54] That's so cool.

[00:15:55] It doesn't hurt that there's also been, like, 500 Star Trek shows that have come out in

[00:15:58] the last, like, five years.

[00:15:59] Never-ending things to create from that.

[00:16:03] Thank you, capitalism.

[00:16:06] I don't know.

[00:16:07] Yeah.

[00:16:09] All right.

[00:16:10] We're nearing the end of Picard.

[00:16:13] And for those listening, we kind of came up with a plan about what we're going to do

[00:16:16] going forward.

[00:16:17] Because, you know, you have to admit that the end is near.

[00:16:21] And what are we going to do after this?

[00:16:26] After this...

[00:16:26] I was just going to riff, but I'm not going to riff.

[00:16:30] We're going to...

[00:16:31] I think we're going to start Strange New Worlds from the beginning.

[00:16:34] We are.

[00:16:35] But before we do that, we're going to do the movie.

[00:16:36] For God's sakes.

[00:16:38] First contact.

[00:16:39] I'm so excited.

[00:16:41] I want...

[00:16:42] I want to...

[00:16:44] Yeah.

[00:16:45] I want us to pick, like, best quote.

[00:16:47] I want us to pick, like, best outfit.

[00:16:49] Best hair.

[00:16:51] I almost wonder if we should watch it together and record ourselves watching it together.

[00:16:58] In real time, so people can also watch it and just hear our voices over the entire movie?

[00:17:05] I don't know about that.

[00:17:06] But it wouldn't be hard just to, like, put it on and then just have audacity running in

[00:17:10] the background.

[00:17:11] And if we capture anything funny, we use it.

[00:17:13] We should.

[00:17:14] Let's do it.

[00:17:14] When we capture something funny, let's be real.

[00:17:17] You just were funny right then.

[00:17:19] You said it was real.

[00:17:20] Another non-alcoholic Coors Light for you?

[00:17:22] If you can spare it.

[00:17:28] It's okay.

[00:17:30] Like...

[00:17:31] It's okay.

[00:17:34] But then, yes, Stranger Worlds.

[00:17:35] We're going to do that.

[00:17:36] Yeah.

[00:17:37] Season one, season two.

[00:17:38] And I'm excited to do a rewatch of that, personally.

[00:17:41] Me too.

[00:17:42] It's a very good show.

[00:17:43] All right.

[00:17:44] Surrender.

[00:17:46] How about you surrender your ears to the podcast and listen as I respectfully summarize this

[00:17:50] episode.

[00:17:52] Vatic is smoking on the bridge like a badass.

[00:17:55] Literally me at a casino slot machine in Vegas, circling in the chair, looking for my free

[00:17:59] Bud Light.

[00:18:01] I'm out of other coat.

[00:18:03] Yeah.

[00:18:05] I have the same scar on my face.

[00:18:07] Jordi is trying to keep things positive as parts of the ship shut down and crew members

[00:18:12] are attacked with nowhere to run to.

[00:18:14] Jack is trying to tap into his new mystery powers and see if it will allow them away to

[00:18:20] access other areas of the ship, since Vatic has basically cut off everyone from the bridge

[00:18:24] where she's surveying her captors and dancing around blowing smoke in their face.

[00:18:30] Vatic calls for Jack to come to the bridge or else.

[00:18:35] I mean, this is a dark start because we ended in a dark spot with the last episode.

[00:18:40] Yeah.

[00:18:43] Is Amanda Plummer the world's greatest actor or does she have firsthand experience in taking

[00:18:50] over an entire starship and systematically breaking down any hope that you'll ever survive?

[00:18:56] She scares the shit out of me.

[00:18:57] She's so good and scary.

[00:19:01] John was like, if she's smoking, does that mean the changelings have created lungs and internal

[00:19:07] structures?

[00:19:08] I'm like, were you all the way down to their DNA, basically?

[00:19:12] Yes.

[00:19:13] Like, it's a whole thing.

[00:19:15] And also, I can't remember if her smoking is like an in-your-face kind of thing to the

[00:19:20] scientist because I don't know if the scientist smoked and if it's like a disrespect to her

[00:19:25] body or if I'm like really digging into it deep.

[00:19:27] Either way, Vatic is totally having a brat summer and I can't stop talking and thinking

[00:19:32] about brat summer.

[00:19:34] That is a t-shirt if I ever saw one, Vatic is having a brat summer.

[00:19:38] It's like a picture of Vatic smoking.

[00:19:41] Yeah.

[00:19:41] Can we make that, please?

[00:19:42] Yeah.

[00:19:43] And then we'll get the pins if Vatic is having a brat summer and we'll give them out at

[00:19:46] STLV.

[00:19:47] I think we should just, this is one of the many things that we're going to create and

[00:19:51] give away.

[00:19:52] Hashtag Vatic is having a brat summer.

[00:19:54] I'm in Twitter.

[00:19:56] Vatic is having a brat summer.

[00:19:58] I mean, until the end of the episode.

[00:20:00] Until the end of the episode.

[00:20:01] I know.

[00:20:02] But she's like living it.

[00:20:04] She's messy.

[00:20:06] She's having a good time.

[00:20:07] She's killing people.

[00:20:09] Yeah.

[00:20:10] I just wish that she had said, any of you fucking pricks, boom, and I'll execute every motherfucking

[00:20:14] last one of you.

[00:20:15] Because that's what she said.

[00:20:16] It would have been so.

[00:20:17] Pulp fiction.

[00:20:18] That would have been epic.

[00:20:19] It is also, it's hard because it's Star Trek.

[00:20:22] So like, she's still having a bad movie.

[00:20:32] That would be so cool.

[00:20:34] It's the one that says bad motherfucker on it.

[00:20:36] All right.

[00:20:37] I gotta watch that movie again.

[00:20:38] Yeah.

[00:20:39] Part two.

[00:20:40] Back on the Shrike.

[00:20:41] Troy is trying to fix up Riker and they're having a heart to heart.

[00:20:45] He's calling her Imzati, giving the old Riker charm.

[00:20:48] Good in bed, bad at pizza.

[00:20:50] It's a nice moment between them.

[00:20:52] The ultimate space couple.

[00:20:54] Back on the bridge.

[00:20:55] Vatic is furniture shopping while Shaw says Seven should have blown the turbolift.

[00:20:59] He's talking about consequences of her actions and Vatic tries to lure Jack again.

[00:21:05] Jack is ready to sacrifice himself and wants to try and retake the ship.

[00:21:08] He's talking about how different he is and maybe he can use his weird powers to connect

[00:21:13] to someone on the bridge.

[00:21:14] He's an X-Men basically.

[00:21:16] Jack links to a crewman and tries to input the code, like Picard's code, and is caught

[00:21:21] by Vatic who is like, is that you in there, Jack?

[00:21:24] She knows.

[00:21:25] 10 minutes have passed.

[00:21:27] The communications officer is forced to her knees and so is Mira from tactical.

[00:21:31] Seven is ready to fight and Shaw is like, dude, there's nothing we can do.

[00:21:35] Oh, Shaw, come on, have some faith.

[00:21:37] And then boom, out of nowhere, Vatic shoots the Vulcan to Vene, dead, into billions of pieces.

[00:21:45] What do you think?

[00:21:47] Firstly, I really loved the conversation between Riker and Troy.

[00:21:52] It makes me think about their, like, the early days of their relationship and sort of chasing

[00:21:56] each other around and like, I don't know, where they're all head over heels for each other.

[00:22:01] And it like, you can just, you can, like, we know that they've been through it, but you

[00:22:07] can tell that they've been through it too.

[00:22:10] Like, it just seems like they're both tired, but also like, they still care for each other

[00:22:15] like so deeply.

[00:22:15] Anyway, I hope they get back all happy and cutesy.

[00:22:20] All the other conversations on the bridge and like everywhere else on the ship are so

[00:22:24] tense, but like, things are like pretty shitty.

[00:22:28] Like, it's looking like not great.

[00:22:31] Also, I'm like wondering why Vatic isn't just killing everybody on board anyway.

[00:22:35] Like, why is she waiting?

[00:22:37] Um, but that's, I don't know.

[00:22:41] It's like every villain.

[00:22:43] It's like an Austin Powers.

[00:22:44] He's like, yeah, I got a gun in my room.

[00:22:46] Let's do it together.

[00:22:46] He's like, no, I like the shark with the laser beam and the most elaborate, like,

[00:22:51] it's going to get away.

[00:22:52] It's power and control, I suppose.

[00:22:54] That's true.

[00:22:55] And it's like such a surprise when she, um,

[00:23:01] goes for something that we do think.

[00:23:02] Yeah.

[00:23:03] Yeah.

[00:23:04] Yeah.

[00:23:04] Um, what did Troy basically admit to cheating on Riker with a changeling?

[00:23:11] No.

[00:23:11] She kind of hints at it, but then she says like, no, I knew it wasn't you the minute

[00:23:15] they came in or something like that.

[00:23:16] But I was just like, when she made that comment, like very convincing, good in bed,

[00:23:20] bad at pizza.

[00:23:21] And I was like, did you, did you, did you step out on like, like, but where's the,

[00:23:27] would she be in trouble for that?

[00:23:28] I don't know.

[00:23:28] Anyway.

[00:23:29] Yeah.

[00:23:29] I don't know.

[00:23:30] Yeah.

[00:23:30] He, but I love that.

[00:23:31] I love that scene too.

[00:23:32] Um, Riker's the coolest.

[00:23:35] Um, yeah, I don't really know what else to say.

[00:23:37] Uh, the person who played to being, um, the Vulcan, uh, I met Stephanie and her husband,

[00:23:43] uh, in, in Vegas, uh, hanging out at the Delano.

[00:23:46] Her husband is a hilarious, hilarious guy and Canadian.

[00:23:51] And we had a great time talking with him.

[00:23:52] I didn't get a chance to talk to her much, but, um, she seemed lovely.

[00:23:56] And, um, I have, we've, she's since, uh, now following the podcast on Twitter and, uh,

[00:24:02] you know, super cool.

[00:24:04] I'd love to see, love to see that character, uh, in more depth.

[00:24:06] Actually, a lot of the people on the bridge, I thought were really cool characters.

[00:24:10] And, um, I would like to want them to know a bit more about them to be, to be honest.

[00:24:14] Um, it's not often that you get an ensemble that instantly you're just like, Ooh, I like

[00:24:17] almost everybody.

[00:24:18] It's like Stranger Worlds.

[00:24:20] You know, I didn't, I didn't have that love for Deep Space Nine and Voyager as much or

[00:24:26] Enterprise.

[00:24:27] Like there was characters that I liked and some that I liked less, but with these ones,

[00:24:32] I find that the whole group just kind of like, you know, they come as a team.

[00:24:36] Yeah.

[00:24:38] Okay.

[00:24:38] Part three.

[00:24:39] And then we're going to be running out of time.

[00:24:41] Uh, Troy is at it again with Riker.

[00:24:43] Are you giving up?

[00:24:44] You gave up, but he says he was numb and he needed to feel grief and you can't skip

[00:24:48] to the end of healing.

[00:24:49] Those two have seen some shit.

[00:24:52] Uh, judgy Foyer.

[00:24:54] I love that.

[00:24:55] Birds in the morning.

[00:24:56] Uh, sounds like they're headed back to the city.

[00:24:58] That's that foyer.

[00:24:59] So judgy.

[00:25:00] Um, OMG, Worf.

[00:25:02] He comes in to save the day.

[00:25:04] Deanna throws herself into his big arms and he's counted the days since he last saw her.

[00:25:08] Riker is like, um, inappropriate.

[00:25:10] It's super adorable.

[00:25:11] It's the perfect little rescue reunion.

[00:25:13] Um, back on the ship, they need data to help save the day.

[00:25:16] Picard calls out the forge's pedestrian taste in wine to prove.

[00:25:22] Oh, so rude.

[00:25:23] I was in the middle of speaking and zoom just was like, you are the weakest link.

[00:25:29] Okay.

[00:25:30] Uh, where was I?

[00:25:32] I'll just re-say back on the ship.

[00:25:34] They need data to help save the day.

[00:25:36] Picard called out the forge's pedestrian taste in wine to prove he's not a changeling.

[00:25:40] And it's a good glimpse into the reality that no one, but Picard likes his bloody wine.

[00:25:44] Um, they need to remove the partition between data and lore.

[00:25:48] A battle between good and evil.

[00:25:50] It's the data stand.

[00:25:51] Dun, dun, dun.

[00:25:52] Here we go.

[00:25:53] Riker and friends stare down at Picard's naked, vulnerable old body and try to figure out the whole reason behind needing him.

[00:26:00] Shields are up, calmed her down, and an alarm is sound.

[00:26:04] Vadek is about ready to kill another crew member when the turbolift doors open and Jack walks on.

[00:26:08] Um, baby boy, and he's got an unknown device in his hand.

[00:26:12] I don't think it's a space tennis ball.

[00:26:17] It's not.

[00:26:18] It's not.

[00:26:19] You know what they say, the only thing worse than a woodpecker is a two-headed woodpecker.

[00:26:25] Is that worse than just one woodpecker?

[00:26:28] How about four woodpeckers?

[00:26:30] Or five woodpeckers?

[00:26:31] What the fuck kind of saying was that?

[00:26:34] Anyway, I missed the rest of that scene, but I'm glad they're moving away from that crap planet that they hate.

[00:26:44] Worf, like, he loves her, right?

[00:26:50] Oh, yeah.

[00:26:51] And it's like, and she's, like, loving it, obviously.

[00:26:55] And also, like, when Riker's like, oh, come on.

[00:26:57] And she's like, shut up.

[00:26:59] Like, I mean, this is the best.

[00:27:00] But also, like, oh, that could be your life.

[00:27:03] He would bring you tea.

[00:27:07] You, your foyer wouldn't be judgy.

[00:27:10] And he's, like, so handsome and strong and stuff.

[00:27:14] Anyway, um, I loved that.

[00:27:17] I wish Worf would just put his rocket boots on and shoot off to some planet where he and Troy can live forever.

[00:27:24] And she feeds him grapes because that's what he deserves.

[00:27:28] Not grapes, prunes.

[00:27:30] Prunes, well, depends, I guess, on the kind, the type of the context.

[00:27:35] And then, like, at the end of the, at the end of the scene, he's like, Worf, first, there's something you must see.

[00:27:41] I was watching it with John, and John's like, zip.

[00:27:45] And I was like, that would have been so funny.

[00:27:48] And then, like, removing the partition and, like, Data and Lore.

[00:27:52] And John was like, are we just going to see Brent Spiner being Data and Lore?

[00:27:57] I'm like, yes, but it'll be, like, two dudes.

[00:27:59] Like, not, like, one, like, one single person being like, no, yes, no, yes.

[00:28:04] That's, um, so that happened.

[00:28:06] And then when we got to Picard's naked body, John said, now they can look at his dong.

[00:28:13] I thought about that.

[00:28:14] I thought about that, too.

[00:28:15] And I wondered after all those years if they did see him naked during all of their escapades.

[00:28:20] Like, he was at least naked one time in front of people.

[00:28:22] And, I mean, Bev's obviously seen it.

[00:28:25] This is where, this is where my brain goes.

[00:28:29] Correct me if I'm, tell me if I'm weird.

[00:28:31] But when I think about the changelings and them turning into people, like, talk about, like, your privacy is being, like, how do they know the details if they're just looking at you?

[00:28:43] They might not know really what's going on.

[00:28:45] Like, how do we know they're doing an accurate portrayal of your body?

[00:28:48] One.

[00:28:49] And then it made me also think about Harry Potter and Polyjuice Potion.

[00:28:52] And they got to have some freaking rules around that shit because when everyone turned into Harry, like, how uncomfortable would that be to know that anyone could just shove their hands down their pants now and feel what's going on down there?

[00:29:02] And how do people not do it all the time to sneakily sleep with people?

[00:29:06] Like, you'd have to have some extremely strict rules about what kind of sexual assault cases would come out of Polyjuice Potion.

[00:29:14] Don't even get me freaking started.

[00:29:16] So I'm playing Hogwarts Legacy, right?

[00:29:19] Yes.

[00:29:19] This school has fucking no rules.

[00:29:22] I have been to, like, three classes.

[00:29:24] Otherwise, I'm just doing whatever I want.

[00:29:26] Also, I'm just opening chests left and right everywhere and stealing shit in a store, in a bedroom that's not mine.

[00:29:35] It's morally, it's, you know, thin ice.

[00:29:42] Thin ice.

[00:29:43] That being said, what about Obama's joke about Trump's dong?

[00:29:48] I did not hear it.

[00:29:49] Tell it to me.

[00:29:51] He was just talking about crowd size, but he was going like this.

[00:29:55] And then he, like, it's just the way he made a joke without saying the joke.

[00:30:00] And it was, like, it was almost imperceptible.

[00:30:02] But it was enough.

[00:30:03] It was enough.

[00:30:04] Yeah.

[00:30:04] Yeah.

[00:30:05] Um, yeah.

[00:30:07] I love that.

[00:30:07] That's funny.

[00:30:08] Yeah.

[00:30:08] You want to talk about size?

[00:30:10] Oh, boy.

[00:30:12] Um.

[00:30:15] Next part.

[00:30:16] Yes.

[00:30:16] Oh, Jack.

[00:30:17] Jack also arriving on the bridge.

[00:30:20] I'm glad he did.

[00:30:21] Uh, I, I don't think it was smart to bring his tennis ball or whatever that's for.

[00:30:26] I always freak out also when someone has a weapon that is being kept from going off by

[00:30:33] holding something down.

[00:30:34] Um, I'd rather you have to press a button, not let a button go.

[00:30:38] Cause I like the sweat.

[00:30:40] Like right now I'm thinking about my palms.

[00:30:43] I couldn't.

[00:30:44] I can't.

[00:30:45] No.

[00:30:46] No.

[00:30:46] Don't.

[00:30:46] I don't want to do that.

[00:30:47] I don't want to be in that situation.

[00:30:49] Right.

[00:30:51] Right.

[00:30:52] Right.

[00:30:53] You're like, Haley, you already went to therapy this morning.

[00:30:55] That's not what this is for.

[00:31:01] All right.

[00:31:02] Part four.

[00:31:03] Part four.

[00:31:07] Moving on.

[00:31:09] Awkward segue.

[00:31:10] No.

[00:31:11] Um, the battle is on in Data's head and it doesn't look good from the start.

[00:31:16] Uh, Data goes down memory lane.

[00:31:18] We see Tasha Yar's little hologram, the Sherlock hat.

[00:31:21] Uh, spot.

[00:31:23] Uh, Jack is like, I'm going to kill myself and get rid of the crew.

[00:31:26] And that it puts them into.

[00:31:29] What?

[00:31:30] Jack is like, I'm going to kill myself and get rid of everybody.

[00:31:32] And Batic puts them into a safe holding.

[00:31:36] What the fuck?

[00:31:38] Basically Jack.

[00:31:39] Okay.

[00:31:39] I don't know how I type this, but it was like, I'm going to kill myself and everybody on this

[00:31:43] ship.

[00:31:43] If you don't give me what I want.

[00:31:44] She let the crew go.

[00:31:45] They all went and like locked themselves away, but seven stayed back.

[00:31:49] And Shaw was like, seven, what's up?

[00:31:51] And Jack is like, Jack's like, what do you want?

[00:31:53] And Batic is like, I want your gifts.

[00:31:55] And he's like, well, I don't really know what they are.

[00:31:57] Like you tell me.

[00:31:58] So he still has no idea what he is.

[00:32:01] She brings up the red door and her evil smile is so good.

[00:32:05] So she obviously knows obviously a lot more about what he is than he does.

[00:32:08] So it's obviously a moment of pure confusion for the poor kid.

[00:32:13] Uh, Laura overpowers Data.

[00:32:15] It's like, no, we didn't.

[00:32:16] He's alive.

[00:32:17] Thanks to spot.

[00:32:19] Let's retake the ship.

[00:32:21] Uh, Rafi kicks some serious ass and slaughters the Batic followers.

[00:32:24] Data is pissed off and in control and totally bad-ass.

[00:32:28] And the evacuation hatches are open.

[00:32:31] Batic is sucked out into space.

[00:32:33] Fucking solids.

[00:32:35] Um, Shaw, here's your ship back for you.

[00:32:38] Shaw looking exhausted and ready for some R&R takes his seat and they fire on the Shrike,

[00:32:43] destroying it.

[00:32:44] And we are all safe and fine.

[00:32:46] Everything is perfect again, right?

[00:32:48] Right.

[00:32:49] Right.

[00:32:50] I know.

[00:32:50] You know, what's funny is I was taking notes on John's laptop because then I, yeah.

[00:32:55] Anyway, and I closed the laptop after that scene.

[00:32:58] Cause I was like, that's, that's enough.

[00:33:01] And he's like, well, you know, the show's not over yet.

[00:33:03] I'm like, that's okay.

[00:33:04] Like, I'll remember the rest.

[00:33:05] But also like, you know, I felt like job done.

[00:33:11] Um, I wonder if, if Lore had won out, um, if it would have been worth negotiating with

[00:33:20] him to take out Batic.

[00:33:21] Like, okay.

[00:33:22] You know, like data's gone.

[00:33:23] We got Lore.

[00:33:24] We know he likes power.

[00:33:26] There's someone on the ship who wants power too.

[00:33:29] Can we, you know, why don't you just like pit them against each other?

[00:33:33] But then also they would just be in the same position at the end.

[00:33:37] Like if he got rid of her, then they would be under Lore's command, which is like, yes, please.

[00:33:42] Um, Spot, that cat is female and male, depending on the storyline.

[00:33:49] I looked, I looked into this.

[00:33:50] I was like, wait a second.

[00:33:51] And so like when data hands, hands them to Lore, he says he, but Spot also had a litter

[00:33:57] of kittens.

[00:33:59] We've talked about this before, I think, but like, it seems to be just this known goof that

[00:34:06] people are just putting up with.

[00:34:08] And I'm like, okay, but like the cat's like, I'm just ripping.

[00:34:14] I'm Jean Shalit now.

[00:34:16] Bye.

[00:34:17] Bye.

[00:34:17] Um, yeah, the cat thing's just like a continuity or big time.

[00:34:22] Yeah.

[00:34:23] Anyway, it's, it's fine.

[00:34:24] Saves the day at the end of the day.

[00:34:26] I don't know enough about space, but like when Vatik was shot out there, would she have

[00:34:31] shattered into pieces like that?

[00:34:32] Or was that like not enough time for her to have fully froze?

[00:34:36] Well, but all.

[00:34:37] Yeah, we're going to get into that later.

[00:34:39] Okay.

[00:34:40] What I like best is she died fully solid because she was frozen, which is like the ultimate

[00:34:46] burn, but also rip to a badass bitch.

[00:34:49] Absolutely.

[00:34:50] Epic performance and character.

[00:34:52] Yeah.

[00:34:53] Like, so good.

[00:34:55] Like.

[00:34:55] Yeah.

[00:34:57] Like I was thinking, I'm like, would I vote for you?

[00:35:01] Probably.

[00:35:03] Um, and then like, yeah, thanks for blowing up the ship.

[00:35:06] John's like, that seems like there may have been some valuable information on that ship.

[00:35:11] Probably could have found some good, like leftover food.

[00:35:13] And there's probably some art maybe.

[00:35:16] Isn't the away team still there?

[00:35:18] Uh, but you're.

[00:35:19] Anyway.

[00:35:20] Oh.

[00:35:21] Uh, no.

[00:35:22] Yeah.

[00:35:22] I mean, what a.

[00:35:23] Like.

[00:35:24] There was some epic parts in that last one.

[00:35:26] I mean, not only did we have Brent doing Brent to his best.

[00:35:29] Um.

[00:35:29] You know, RIP lore.

[00:35:31] Uh.

[00:35:31] Yeah.

[00:35:32] Great character.

[00:35:33] Uh.

[00:35:33] RIP Vatic.

[00:35:34] Great character.

[00:35:36] Um, Seven stepped up and was like, I'm going to stand by your side, Jack.

[00:35:39] Like, I got this.

[00:35:40] And then Raffi got to do some serious ass kicking.

[00:35:43] Like, it was great.

[00:35:44] It was great.

[00:35:44] It was an awesome scene.

[00:35:46] Like, act or whatever.

[00:35:47] Yeah.

[00:35:48] It was so much needed, like, action shots.

[00:35:50] Because it's been kind of like.

[00:35:52] More talk.

[00:35:54] You know.

[00:35:54] Yeah.

[00:35:54] It was fine.

[00:35:56] Yeah.

[00:35:56] They're good at kicking ass, too.

[00:35:58] So for the last part, here we go.

[00:36:00] Right here to Raffi.

[00:36:01] You're scary.

[00:36:02] But no time to chat.

[00:36:03] Troy has to faint again.

[00:36:05] Oh, here we go.

[00:36:06] There's dark energy on the ship.

[00:36:07] You know, nothing's fine.

[00:36:08] We can't even celebrate for five minutes.

[00:36:10] I know.

[00:36:11] Immediately.

[00:36:12] Immediately.

[00:36:13] It's immediately something.

[00:36:14] Like, oh, the water.

[00:36:14] Hot water heater broke.

[00:36:16] Like, fuck.

[00:36:17] Data, meanwhile, is rambling on and on.

[00:36:19] And seems to be loving his new lease on life.

[00:36:21] Or whatever it is that he's experiencing.

[00:36:23] The music is playing.

[00:36:24] It's perfect.

[00:36:25] But me thinks there is still some shit to happen.

[00:36:28] Data used a contraction.

[00:36:29] Jordi and him are joking around.

[00:36:31] It's super adorable.

[00:36:33] How do you feel?

[00:36:35] I feel.

[00:36:36] I feel.

[00:36:38] Oh, nice moment between the two of them.

[00:36:40] Such epic friendship.

[00:36:42] Troy now throws herself into Data's arms.

[00:36:44] And the entire crew is together.

[00:36:46] This moment is perfect.

[00:36:47] And I have tears.

[00:36:49] The doctor apologizes for being away.

[00:36:51] Troy says she was in her heart.

[00:36:54] Worf was told sending heads as gifts was passive aggressive.

[00:36:57] It's perfect.

[00:36:58] Perfect.

[00:36:59] Everybody sitting at the table like they used to sit at the old Enterprise is just perfect.

[00:37:05] All right.

[00:37:06] Frontier Day is hours away.

[00:37:07] Changelings have infiltrated Starfleet and they still have work to do.

[00:37:12] There's a voice within Jack.

[00:37:13] Ancient and weak.

[00:37:15] And Troy wants to meet him.

[00:37:16] She guides him to the red door.

[00:37:17] Tells him to open it.

[00:37:18] And that's the end of the goddamn fucking episode.

[00:37:22] Dude.

[00:37:22] I know.

[00:37:23] What do you think?

[00:37:24] Talk about a door hanger.

[00:37:26] Oh.

[00:37:28] Well, we know what's coming.

[00:37:31] We do.

[00:37:31] Yeah.

[00:37:32] Which is also why I closed my laptop.

[00:37:34] I'm like, I don't need to make any more notes.

[00:37:37] Yeah.

[00:37:37] I said the same thing.

[00:37:40] I'm like, oh, can't just have a celebration for like two seconds.

[00:37:43] Just immediately.

[00:37:43] There's a darkness on the ship.

[00:37:46] Fair enough.

[00:37:47] Glad you identified it.

[00:37:49] True.

[00:37:50] Also.

[00:37:51] Glad she's investigating.

[00:37:52] Seeing Data and Jordi like fiddling away at a panel like made me super happy.

[00:37:57] Also, it's like Data's finally human.

[00:38:01] No.

[00:38:02] I love it.

[00:38:04] Yeah.

[00:38:05] And or.

[00:38:07] And then I and then I wrote or upcoming Brent Byrne.

[00:38:11] Maybe along with not wanting to wear the makeup any longer.

[00:38:13] Brent also didn't want to play a robot.

[00:38:18] He's got all these demands.

[00:38:19] All big data, but he's a human now and doesn't wear any makeup.

[00:38:24] Also, I don't know if you caught this, but when he said that he's like, I feel I feel he

[00:38:30] did like this kind of fucking weird ass smile, which is very similar to the smile he did in

[00:38:36] that picture with us where he asked if we paid for it.

[00:38:39] And I was like, wait, is that like his legitimate actual genuine smile or what?

[00:38:46] I think it's like his signature smirk.

[00:38:51] I feel like I took a picture of it because I came across some of my.

[00:38:56] Yeah, I'm pretty sure I found all my old photos.

[00:39:02] Some of them are terrible.

[00:39:03] Oh, I didn't take a picture of it because I'm so mad about it still.

[00:39:07] Oh, yeah.

[00:39:09] It's kind of like smug.

[00:39:13] It's a smug smirk.

[00:39:15] It's smug.

[00:39:16] And then like, it didn't help that he was like, oh, did you guys pay for this?

[00:39:20] And it's like, you fucking know we did.

[00:39:21] And then like, I don't know.

[00:39:24] I was just like, there it is.

[00:39:27] You found it.

[00:39:28] It's definitely one with my hair.

[00:39:32] Like.

[00:39:34] Like.

[00:39:35] I know.

[00:39:36] I know.

[00:39:37] Give us our money back.

[00:39:38] I really hope that.

[00:39:39] Oh, there it is.

[00:39:41] God, look at.

[00:39:41] I look just.

[00:39:44] Oh.

[00:39:45] I have the confidence of someone with better hair.

[00:39:50] I'm wearing a giant like tiger face necklace.

[00:39:53] That was the style at the time.

[00:39:56] We both have teeny little cardigans on.

[00:39:59] Cardigan over a tube top.

[00:40:01] Like.

[00:40:02] Yes.

[00:40:02] Yes.

[00:40:03] Yes.

[00:40:03] Oh, my face is like.

[00:40:06] That's the biggest my face ever was.

[00:40:10] What is.

[00:40:10] That's.

[00:40:11] That's what alcohol consumption does to a woman's face.

[00:40:16] High cortisol levels.

[00:40:18] I had cortisol face.

[00:40:21] It's.

[00:40:22] Life is not kind to us.

[00:40:24] But anyway, we.

[00:40:26] That's.

[00:40:26] I know.

[00:40:27] I know.

[00:40:28] Like, I was looking at myself in the mirror.

[00:40:29] I was like, holy shit, I'm excited for Vegas now.

[00:40:32] Like.

[00:40:33] Just hang on to this.

[00:40:35] I know.

[00:40:37] Secret to my success.

[00:40:41] I don't use any products on my face.

[00:40:44] Except for castor oil.

[00:40:46] I rub castor oil on my face.

[00:40:48] Daily.

[00:40:50] I just started an oil cleansing routine as well.

[00:40:54] I don't.

[00:40:55] I have lines up here yet.

[00:40:56] And this is the.

[00:40:57] And this is somebody who smokes.

[00:41:00] And does not.

[00:41:00] And is constantly.

[00:41:02] Surprised.

[00:41:04] I squint all the time.

[00:41:06] I mean.

[00:41:07] I've got.

[00:41:07] If I do this.

[00:41:09] And then.

[00:41:10] These kind of stick around for a second.

[00:41:12] But like, generally speaking.

[00:41:13] I don't have anything either.

[00:41:15] Wait.

[00:41:15] Well, I mean.

[00:41:15] Sometimes too.

[00:41:20] Where I like.

[00:41:20] Work the muscles on my face.

[00:41:22] And.

[00:41:23] Oh, just like.

[00:41:24] George Clooney.

[00:41:26] I remember seeing.

[00:41:27] Like some.

[00:41:27] Everything I do in my life.

[00:41:29] People are always like.

[00:41:29] That is just like George Clooney.

[00:41:32] Yeah.

[00:41:33] I mean.

[00:41:34] You're modeling your life after his life.

[00:41:36] Bachelor forever.

[00:41:37] I was at Lake Como.

[00:41:40] Hot belly pig pet.

[00:41:43] Nescafe only.

[00:41:44] Nespresso.

[00:41:45] Or whatever.

[00:41:46] My spouse is a human rights lawyer.

[00:41:47] Yes.

[00:41:50] Yeah.

[00:41:50] Just like Mark Darcy.

[00:41:51] And anyway.

[00:41:52] Where were we?

[00:41:53] That's the episode.

[00:41:55] That was the episode.

[00:41:56] We watched it.

[00:41:57] It was good.

[00:41:58] It was so good.

[00:41:59] It's such a good.

[00:42:00] Like season.

[00:42:01] And I.

[00:42:01] After.

[00:42:02] After it was over.

[00:42:03] John's like.

[00:42:03] That's it.

[00:42:04] And like.

[00:42:04] Do you want to watch the next one?

[00:42:05] He's like.

[00:42:05] Well, when are you recording the next one?

[00:42:07] I'm like.

[00:42:07] Well.

[00:42:08] I don't know.

[00:42:08] Like.

[00:42:09] The next time.

[00:42:10] He's like.

[00:42:10] Let's watch it closer to that time.

[00:42:12] So we'll watch it closer to that time.

[00:42:13] He also forgot what Jack is.

[00:42:15] So he's like.

[00:42:16] What is it?

[00:42:16] Yeah.

[00:42:17] He's like.

[00:42:17] What is it?

[00:42:17] And I'm like.

[00:42:18] I won't tell you.

[00:42:19] He's like.

[00:42:19] Tell me.

[00:42:19] Tell me.

[00:42:20] And so I told him.

[00:42:20] And he's like.

[00:42:28] The first time around.

[00:42:28] I didn't know what to expect.

[00:42:30] I was just like.

[00:42:32] There's still more.

[00:42:33] Like.

[00:42:33] Oh my God.

[00:42:33] Like.

[00:42:34] I felt that that happened multiple times throughout it.

[00:42:36] Like.

[00:42:36] Oh my God.

[00:42:37] We finally got out of being sucked into the middle of the.

[00:42:40] Gravity well.

[00:42:41] And then.

[00:42:41] Oh.

[00:42:41] There's Bannock.

[00:42:42] And then.

[00:42:42] Oh.

[00:42:43] We finally killed Bannock.

[00:42:43] Oh.

[00:42:44] No.

[00:42:44] There's something else.

[00:42:45] Like.

[00:42:45] Don't forget.

[00:42:45] Jack's still fucked up.

[00:42:46] And don't forget.

[00:42:47] There's still this.

[00:42:47] And it's just like.

[00:42:48] Holy shit.

[00:42:49] Like.

[00:42:50] It's only.

[00:42:51] Less than.

[00:42:52] Less than 12 episodes.

[00:42:53] Like.

[00:42:53] And there's so much action.

[00:42:55] From episode to episode.

[00:42:57] That it's just.

[00:42:58] Yeah.

[00:42:59] I've never.

[00:43:00] Wanted a fourth season of a show.

[00:43:02] More than after watching this.

[00:43:04] But it wouldn't be the same.

[00:43:05] Because it's like.

[00:43:05] This is the story.

[00:43:06] It's told.

[00:43:07] We don't need to.

[00:43:08] Hash them together.

[00:43:08] Like.

[00:43:09] We wanted them all to come together.

[00:43:10] For one last time.

[00:43:11] And they did.

[00:43:12] Right.

[00:43:12] Yeah.

[00:43:12] And they did it so well.

[00:43:14] Perfectly executed.

[00:43:15] Yeah.

[00:43:15] It was so.

[00:43:15] It was perfect.

[00:43:16] Yeah.

[00:43:16] Exactly.

[00:43:17] So.

[00:43:17] Yeah.

[00:43:18] In fact.

[00:43:18] I'm actually looking forward to watching First Contact.

[00:43:21] Just to see.

[00:43:22] Yes.

[00:43:23] How we feel about that.

[00:43:24] But.

[00:43:25] I know.

[00:43:25] Oh.

[00:43:26] I love it.

[00:43:27] I think it's a great movie.

[00:43:28] I love it too.

[00:43:29] Okay.

[00:43:30] From Internet Movie Database.

[00:43:33] We got some stuff.

[00:43:34] When Data hands over the tricorder to lore.

[00:43:36] You hear a violin and viola playing.

[00:43:39] George Friedrich Handel.

[00:43:41] And Johan Halvorsen's Passagalia.

[00:43:45] This was played in Inheritance 1993.

[00:43:47] By Data and his mother.

[00:43:49] Dr. Julia Tainer Soon.

[00:43:51] I was so glad that you started.

[00:43:53] Because I was like.

[00:43:53] I do not want to read that out.

[00:43:56] This episode references the scene in Remembrance 2020.

[00:44:00] Where Picard states that Data has a tell.

[00:44:05] When they are playing cards in a dream.

[00:44:07] Oh yeah.

[00:44:09] Do you remember what the tell was?

[00:44:12] I don't remember what the tell was.

[00:44:13] But I remember that scene.

[00:44:14] It was like the first episode of Picard season one.

[00:44:16] Wasn't it?

[00:44:16] Yeah.

[00:44:17] They were playing cards together.

[00:44:18] Or it was like one of the first episodes.

[00:44:20] Yeah.

[00:44:22] I don't remember what the tell is.

[00:44:25] One of Data's memories is of the hologram Tasha Yard made before her death in Skin of Evil in 1988.

[00:44:30] Yes we know.

[00:44:32] I'm glad that they.

[00:44:34] I mean even Tasha was back right?

[00:44:35] Like it was so cool.

[00:44:38] This episode marks the first time the main cast of Star Trek The Next Generation 1987 have appeared together on screen since Star Trek Nemesis 2002.

[00:44:47] With the exception of Picard the cast is seen wearing the field jacket with department colors reminiscent of their uniform colors.

[00:44:54] Riker in red.

[00:44:54] Data LaForge in Worf in gold.

[00:44:57] Yellow.

[00:44:57] And Crusher in Troy in blue.

[00:44:59] Clones.

[00:45:00] From season three with their current rank.

[00:45:02] Or lack thereof.

[00:45:05] When the Titan destroys the Shrike you can hear a few chords of Star Trek 2009 theme song.

[00:45:11] Oh interesting.

[00:45:13] Okay.

[00:45:13] I like that.

[00:45:14] I actually like and noticed that the music score sort of changes to TNG throughout this season of Picard.

[00:45:23] I'm happy about that.

[00:45:24] It's my favorite one.

[00:45:25] Actually Voyager is my favorite one.

[00:45:27] And then that one.

[00:45:28] It is revealed in this episode that Worf was promoted not once but twice.

[00:45:33] The last time we saw Worf in Star Trek Nemesis he was a lieutenant commander.

[00:45:37] When we is first when he is first seen in his field jacket he is wearing the rank insignia of a captain.

[00:45:44] Hmm.

[00:45:46] Interesting.

[00:45:47] A couple of goofs.

[00:45:48] When Vadek and her crew are ejected into space by Jack Picard.

[00:45:53] The viewer sees Vadek freeze solid almost immediately.

[00:45:56] This is a common mistake in movies shows that takes place in space.

[00:46:00] Since there is no atmosphere in space to conduct heat.

[00:46:02] A person cannot instantly freeze because heat transfer could not occur as rapidly by radiation alone.

[00:46:08] But it would happen eventually.

[00:46:11] But yeah not as rapidly.

[00:46:12] That's what I thought because I've actually seen some other sci-fi shows where people are like holding their breath in between jumping from ship to ship.

[00:46:19] And like wouldn't your eyeballs freeze?

[00:46:21] Wouldn't your lungs freeze?

[00:46:22] But you know we're learning every day.

[00:46:24] Every day.

[00:46:25] About space.

[00:46:27] Shrike had previously been shown to be technologically far superior to Federation starships.

[00:46:33] But now it is easily destroyed with a couple of standard photon torpedoes.

[00:46:36] This is true.

[00:46:37] Yeah.

[00:46:38] It's a good catch.

[00:46:39] I mean it also probably didn't have its shields up.

[00:46:42] It also probably like it didn't expect to be.

[00:46:44] But fair.

[00:46:45] Okay.

[00:46:47] All right.

[00:46:48] Jim Morehouse on Trek Core.

[00:46:51] Who was always writing really great synopses and finding all types of Easter eggs.

[00:46:55] We have a whole bunch of shit here.

[00:46:56] Let's get going.

[00:46:57] The opening of the episode.

[00:46:59] I didn't go through all these so there could be some duplicates.

[00:47:01] Just FYI.

[00:47:03] The opening of the episode also excels with Vadek conducting a symphony.

[00:47:07] With her hand movements.

[00:47:08] As she takes away the crew's eyes, ears and the very road ahead of them.

[00:47:12] By eliminating their sensors and their comms.

[00:47:16] And then locking down their ability to move inside the ship.

[00:47:19] Just great stuff in general.

[00:47:20] It was.

[00:47:21] She's just like.

[00:47:22] Again.

[00:47:23] I mentioned this in the last episode.

[00:47:24] And I compared it to Ralph Fiennes.

[00:47:26] There's just something about.

[00:47:27] You almost wonder if there's like a history with dance.

[00:47:30] Like there's a really elegant way of body movement that comes into how she acts.

[00:47:34] And you're just like.

[00:47:35] You make it look so easy.

[00:47:36] And it's just.

[00:47:37] It really adds to the character.

[00:47:40] I think.

[00:47:40] For sure.

[00:47:41] Yeah.

[00:47:42] She does such a great job.

[00:47:44] Um.

[00:47:45] The Shrike is no more.

[00:47:47] After seeing Vadek's frozen body shatter into a million pieces.

[00:47:50] P.S.

[00:47:51] It was like seven large pieces.

[00:47:53] I don't know.

[00:47:54] Against the ship's hull.

[00:47:55] The Titan takes aim on the powerful ship with Captain Shaw giving the honors to his second in command.

[00:47:59] Seven to fire the volleys that destroy it.

[00:48:01] Yeah.

[00:48:02] I mean.

[00:48:02] We were all there.

[00:48:03] We saw it.

[00:48:03] Yeah.

[00:48:04] Um.

[00:48:05] Although the execution of Tavine is difficult to watch.

[00:48:07] The tension built up in that scene.

[00:48:09] That also features Mira and Esmar in Jeopardy is extremely well done.

[00:48:14] And it was really well done.

[00:48:16] Yeah.

[00:48:16] That was um.

[00:48:17] That was tense.

[00:48:19] Yep.

[00:48:19] Yeah.

[00:48:19] Yep.

[00:48:19] Like when she's got the um.

[00:48:21] Phaser to Mira's head.

[00:48:22] And she's like.

[00:48:22] Tell me somebody who loves you.

[00:48:24] And it's like my son.

[00:48:25] You're like.

[00:48:25] Fuck off.

[00:48:26] I know.

[00:48:27] You're being a bitch Vadek.

[00:48:29] Like.

[00:48:29] You're the bitch.

[00:48:30] Yeah.

[00:48:31] She sucks.

[00:48:33] But also.

[00:48:33] So perfect.

[00:48:34] Um.

[00:48:36] As part of Raffi.

[00:48:38] Michelle Hurd.

[00:48:38] And Worf.

[00:48:39] Michael Dorns.

[00:48:40] Return to the Titan.

[00:48:42] We get a standout moment for the badass warrior.

[00:48:45] Raffi not Worf.

[00:48:46] As she takes down a squadron of changelings in a quarter sword fight scene worthy of Star

[00:48:50] Trek's legendary other Michelle.

[00:48:53] I'm guessing.

[00:48:54] There's an asterisk.

[00:48:55] I don't know.

[00:48:56] Maybe.

[00:48:56] I'm not going to call you on it.

[00:48:57] Yeah.

[00:48:58] Probably.

[00:48:59] Uh.

[00:49:00] In Taru.

[00:49:02] Uh.

[00:49:03] Which.

[00:49:03] Troy was like.

[00:49:04] You should have called me in Taru instead of Imzadi.

[00:49:06] I should have taught you that word.

[00:49:07] It means baby of immense size.

[00:49:09] In Bayezoid language.

[00:49:12] Oh.

[00:49:14] Oh.

[00:49:14] My grocery.

[00:49:15] Um.

[00:49:16] Oh.

[00:49:16] Get him.

[00:49:17] I'm going to turn off the air conditioning in here because it's fucking cold.

[00:49:20] I can't handle this weather.

[00:49:22] I don't think you can hear me anymore.

[00:49:23] I can hear you.

[00:49:24] I'm still here.

[00:49:25] Oh.

[00:49:25] I'm just waiting for the person to walk away.

[00:49:27] They like to take a picture of it at the door.

[00:49:28] You know.

[00:49:30] Oh.

[00:49:30] 333.

[00:49:31] Make a wish.

[00:49:32] Oh.

[00:49:32] Yay.

[00:49:34] I wish for my groceries to be fully complete and sent how I want them.

[00:49:38] Yeah.

[00:49:39] I wish of my wish on them.

[00:49:41] Um.

[00:49:42] I'm just going to watch his thing.

[00:49:44] Oh.

[00:49:44] He's getting in his car.

[00:49:45] Get out of here.

[00:49:47] Oh no.

[00:49:47] He's still grabbing it.

[00:49:48] There's my toilet paper.

[00:49:50] Oh.

[00:49:51] Here comes the paper towels.

[00:49:53] Oh.

[00:49:53] I need those things too.

[00:49:55] Oh.

[00:49:55] I was down to my last roll.

[00:49:57] With paper towels.

[00:49:58] I go through like a.

[00:50:00] I go through a lot of paper towels.

[00:50:02] I'll fully admit it.

[00:50:03] Like I really.

[00:50:04] I really treat that stuff as though it's just growing on trees.

[00:50:08] Well.

[00:50:09] What if I told you.

[00:50:11] What?

[00:50:12] That they.

[00:50:14] Go on.

[00:50:16] On the edge of my seat.

[00:50:17] What do you think?

[00:50:17] There's a paper towel tree?

[00:50:20] Troy laments the lack of.

[00:50:24] Ractagino.

[00:50:25] Ractagino.

[00:50:26] Ractagino.

[00:50:27] Lattes.

[00:50:27] Is on.

[00:50:28] Nepenthe.

[00:50:30] Nepenthe.

[00:50:31] Made from the Klingon coffee.

[00:50:32] Often mentioned on Star Trek DS9.

[00:50:34] I wouldn't know that.

[00:50:35] I wouldn't know.

[00:50:36] Yeah.

[00:50:36] Klingon coffee is called Ractagino.

[00:50:38] And they lived on that horrible.

[00:50:40] That Nepenthe that they wanted to leave.

[00:50:42] Yeah.

[00:50:43] He's leaving.

[00:50:44] I'm going to go get my stuff.

[00:50:46] Get it.

[00:50:47] Get it.

[00:50:48] Get it.

[00:50:48] Get it.

[00:50:48] Where are the dogs?

[00:50:49] Oh they're on my bed.

[00:50:51] Oh Jack is.

[00:50:52] Jack's on my bed.

[00:50:58] Come back.

[00:50:59] Jack.

[00:50:59] Oh yay.

[00:51:00] I thought I put some stuff in the fridge in the freezer.

[00:51:03] Cool.

[00:51:04] Literally.

[00:51:05] It is cool.

[00:51:06] Keeping your food fresh.

[00:51:09] You know it.

[00:51:11] Alright.

[00:51:12] My turn?

[00:51:13] Yeah.

[00:51:14] The brief appearance of Data's Tasha Yar memorial hologram seen previously in Measure of a Man and the Most Toys is the first appearance of Denise Crosby in a Star Trek production since 1994's All Good Things.

[00:51:26] Yeah.

[00:51:27] Fair enough.

[00:51:29] Here's one that hits close to home.

[00:51:32] Yeah.

[00:51:34] The brief appearance of Data's Tasha Yar memorial.

[00:51:36] I'm just kidding.

[00:51:38] Just riffing.

[00:51:39] Despite having kittens in Genesis, Data's cat spot last seen in Star Trek Nemesis is again portrayed by a male cat.

[00:51:46] No further explanation is required.

[00:51:48] It's like okay.

[00:51:51] I need an explanation.

[00:51:52] Well even an explanation of like there's cats that can switch like biological details or there are many cats that we have purchased named Spot because they keep getting lost in the Jefferies tubes and stuff.

[00:52:08] I don't know.

[00:52:13] Jim Morehouse makes just an excellent point here.

[00:52:16] The Titan engaging their cloak from the HMS bounty before the end of the episode is just cool.

[00:52:21] Yeah.

[00:52:21] It is super cool because that is the whale one, right?

[00:52:25] That's right.

[00:52:27] Also, here's some information.

[00:52:29] Marina Sirtis makes her first substantial appearance of the season this week.

[00:52:33] While some fans voiced complaints that the show should have included Troy in a more comprehensive way earlier, both the showrunner Terry Metallus and Picard co-star Jerry Ryan pushed back, noting Sirtis' required travel from London for filming and a desired smaller role.

[00:52:51] I thought she had a perfectly fine role.

[00:52:53] Yeah.

[00:52:53] I mean, what else do you want from her?

[00:52:56] She's also like up in Jack's business now, so she's like pretty there.

[00:53:01] And she's like, I don't know.

[00:53:03] Sorry, they've been on the other side of the galaxy or wherever the hell they are.

[00:53:07] She's been busy.

[00:53:09] I know.

[00:53:10] She's got stuff going on.

[00:53:12] Don't criticize.

[00:53:12] Don't criticize Star Trek.

[00:53:15] No, leave them alone.

[00:53:16] Meanwhile, all we do is criticize.

[00:53:17] It's fine.

[00:53:18] I know.

[00:53:18] It's okay when we do it.

[00:53:20] Yeah.

[00:53:20] Pardon us.

[00:53:21] I'm eating some chicken.

[00:53:23] That's okay.

[00:53:24] Michael Dorn makes his 279th appearance in an episode of Star Trek as Worf, extending his record tally for the franchise.

[00:53:35] Never to be beat.

[00:53:37] No, he's so awesome.

[00:53:38] Finally, Surrender is the second episode this season helmed by director Debra Kempmeyer.

[00:53:47] And the episode was written by Mac Okumura, who previously wrote Hide and Seek in season two.

[00:53:55] Very cool.

[00:53:56] Good episode.

[00:53:58] Good job.

[00:53:59] Great job.

[00:54:01] So, I don't know if this is good for this episode or if I meant to do it for the next episode.

[00:54:07] I'm going to save it for the next episode because it doesn't really make sense for this one because...

[00:54:12] We don't know.

[00:54:13] Yeah.

[00:54:14] Let's save it.

[00:54:14] I do like...

[00:54:17] Did you see that I added a card at the bottom?

[00:54:19] I will just...

[00:54:20] I just saw it now.

[00:54:22] Yeah.

[00:54:22] But I'm glad you and John...

[00:54:25] So, you were saying that John forgot what happened to Jack or what Jack is.

[00:54:30] Mm-hmm.

[00:54:30] When you were watching this for the first time, did you have any thoughts?

[00:54:33] Like, what were your...

[00:54:34] What was going through your mind about what Jack was going...

[00:54:36] Who he was?

[00:54:37] Did you have any inkling about what was going to happen?

[00:54:40] Did you see that as a...

[00:54:43] Not...

[00:54:44] Even close.

[00:54:47] And the show did such a good job with distracting us by the changelings that I was like, oh, that's the enemy that we have to be worried about.

[00:54:56] Like, that's shitty.

[00:54:58] And, no, this...

[00:54:59] This came from left field for me because also there's been no evidence in Picard other than a couple, like, instances where he was like, I can kind of hear something.

[00:55:13] What's that?

[00:55:14] Yeah.

[00:55:15] So, and it also scares the shit out of me.

[00:55:18] Like, they're super scary.

[00:55:19] Like, they're the ultimate villains.

[00:55:22] It's absolutely true.

[00:55:23] And, I mean, Sir Patrick Stewart, Terry Metallus, if you're listening, I mean, this is a testament to...

[00:55:29] Because I know they're big fans of the podcast.

[00:55:31] They listen all the time.

[00:55:32] Oh, big time.

[00:55:32] They have the t-shirts and stuff, like, for sure.

[00:55:34] They're Patreons.

[00:55:35] They're Patreons, actually.

[00:55:37] Totally.

[00:55:38] They...

[00:55:39] I mean, this is a testament to not only their writing, but their acting of, like...

[00:55:44] When you think of Picard, you automatically...

[00:55:47] Like, who doesn't think Locutus as, like, a huge thing?

[00:55:50] Who doesn't think Borg is a huge thing?

[00:55:52] I mean, it's always been, you know, peas and carrots.

[00:55:55] It's the Borg.

[00:55:57] It's obvious.

[00:55:58] And watching this, they did such a good job writing that you just...

[00:56:03] You don't think about the obvious.

[00:56:05] And I think there's even decent hints.

[00:56:07] It's no different than at the very beginning of the season when Raffi is trying to figure out the Red Lady thing

[00:56:13] and the person's calling her a warrior.

[00:56:15] And then it's Raffi.

[00:56:15] You're like, oh!

[00:56:16] Like, there's so many little hints that you're like, oh, okay, this makes sense.

[00:56:20] And so when you start, like, once you get the big reveal about what Jack really is,

[00:56:24] you start looking back and you're like, oh, yeah, hearing voices, the sense of community,

[00:56:28] like, the hive mentality.

[00:56:29] Like, oh, okay.

[00:56:31] It's starting to make a little bit of sense.

[00:56:33] But I still think they did.

[00:56:43] Like, there's just a lot of red, like, the Red Lady and the Red Room of Pain and all this stuff that they do.

[00:56:50] And there's, I don't think that the vines or the door are really explained.

[00:56:57] Other than, like, John and I were talking about it and he was just kind of like,

[00:57:01] it's like they're, like, capillaries or, like, arteries.

[00:57:03] And I was like, yes, like, because you're connected to the collective.

[00:57:06] And then the door is just, like, a literal figurative door.

[00:57:11] Whereas if there had been, like, instead of vines, like, honeycombs,

[00:57:15] like, it would have been like, oh, hive, oh, oh.

[00:57:17] Like, it would have been so obvious.

[00:57:18] But this was so well done as just being like, this could fucking be anything.

[00:57:21] And I was kind of getting a little peeved with Jack by the end of this episode

[00:57:26] because I was just like, what?

[00:57:27] Like, now he's got psychic powers.

[00:57:29] Like, what?

[00:57:29] Yeah, yeah.

[00:57:30] Is he human or is he not human?

[00:57:32] Like, what kind of, like, there are no X-Men in the Star Trek world.

[00:57:36] There aren't people that just have random, there's not humans that have random ESP.

[00:57:40] Like, we know that.

[00:57:41] Like, we haven't seen that.

[00:57:42] We have Betazoids that can do this.

[00:57:44] And we have Vulcans that can do that and Nerve Pinch or whatever.

[00:57:46] But we don't have just superhumans that are suddenly, like, you know,

[00:57:50] also doing a side show at Vegas to show off their power.

[00:57:53] So I was like, what the fuck is this already?

[00:57:55] Like, give me an answer.

[00:57:56] And then when you get the answer, you're like, oh.

[00:57:59] Oh.

[00:58:00] And it's so layered and leveled.

[00:58:03] And it ties up so many old theories.

[00:58:09] And, like, it's just so fucking well done.

[00:58:12] Like, the iromodic syndrome and then this and then the body.

[00:58:16] And then, like, you're pulling in stuff from old episodes.

[00:58:18] You're pulling in stuff from earlier seasons.

[00:58:20] You're just like, oh.

[00:58:22] Like, yeah.

[00:58:23] As I watched this and I was like, yeah, they're bad guys gone.

[00:58:26] Like, they did it.

[00:58:27] Like, and then Troy comes in two seconds later and is like, oh,

[00:58:30] there's still a.

[00:58:31] I was like, what the fuck is it now?

[00:58:33] Like, I couldn't figure it out.

[00:58:34] I was just like, I just remember, like, oh, yeah.

[00:58:35] Jack's messed up.

[00:58:36] There's something.

[00:58:37] Yeah.

[00:58:37] Yeah.

[00:58:38] What is it?

[00:58:38] Like.

[00:58:39] And then, like, like, this will happen in the next episode.

[00:58:44] But, like, the horror when it's Frontier Day and everyone, the whole, all of Starfleet

[00:58:51] is together, all together, like, in this one space.

[00:58:54] And I'm like, oh, my God.

[00:58:57] Something really terrible is going to happen.

[00:58:59] I know.

[00:58:59] I can't wait to watch it and talk about it.

[00:59:02] Oh, so good.

[00:59:04] Yeah.

[00:59:05] Yeah.

[00:59:06] We'll do it soon.

[00:59:07] Because I've watched them both and I've got them all written up.

[00:59:09] So it's just a matter of doing the trivia and other little fine details.

[00:59:14] Yeah.

[00:59:15] So good.

[00:59:17] Great episode.

[00:59:18] So good.

[00:59:19] This is a season that I'll rewatch multiple times.

[00:59:21] Like, it's just.

[00:59:23] Yes.

[00:59:23] Everyone's so good.

[00:59:25] Awesome.

[00:59:25] That's it.

[00:59:26] That's it.

[00:59:27] That's all.

[00:59:27] We've got four minutes.

[00:59:29] Man, we did a.

[00:59:30] This is a long episode.

[00:59:31] Good for us.

[00:59:32] Good for us.

[00:59:33] We're having fun.

[00:59:34] We are.

[00:59:35] We're doing us.

[00:59:36] So thanks for listening, everybody.

[00:59:38] That is Surrender Picard season three, episode eight.

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[01:00:49] What say you, Kaylee?

[01:00:51] I say see you there, except for the Facebook and Twitter ones because I don't have those.

[01:00:56] But you know, see you there in spirit.

[01:00:59] Also, see you next time.

[01:01:00] See you next Tuesday.

[01:01:03] Oh.

[01:01:04] Burn on who though?

[01:01:07] I don't know.

[01:01:07] Tuesdays?

[01:01:09] Tuesdays.

[01:01:11] It's Thursday.

[01:01:13] Probably next Thursday.

[01:01:15] Yay.

[01:01:15] Yay.

[01:01:16] Yay.

[01:01:16] It's your Friday.

[01:01:17] Yay.

[01:01:17] Boop, boop, boop, boop.

[01:01:18] All right, everybody.

[01:01:19] Peace out.

[01:01:21] Stay classy.

[01:01:23] Apparently, to infinity.

[01:01:26] Kaylee.

[01:01:26] And the rest.

[01:01:29] Bye.

[01:01:30] As I like to say.

[01:01:32] As I like to say, bye.

[01:01:36] See you next Tuesday.

[01:01:37] Harsh.

[01:01:38] I know.

[01:02:04] Bye.

[01:02:06] Bye.

[01:02:06] Bye.

[01:02:07] Bye.