No Win Scenario

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[00:01:29] All the song you could associate with a cat themed slot machine. You opted for putting on the, putting on the rits more like putting on the kittens. Good one. Hi. Hi. How are you? Good. I love how you wrote round table like you have, you missed the end.

[00:01:53] I did. Are you, do you have a cold round table? Round table. I haven't seen you since the weekend when we went for high tea at the Empress. Tell me and the listeners all about it. Oh, I want to hear your side of the story.

[00:02:12] I mean, I feel like I've been, I don't want to say accused of being negative on this podcast before, but I mean, if you're looking for a ceiling crumbling highback chair, chatty waiter, my tea was not as steeped as I wanted.

[00:02:34] Actually, could you have left the bag in like you said you were going to and then you took it out anyway, kind of time with your best friend for well over $100 each. Well over. Go to the Empress tea room.

[00:02:51] If you're looking for a tired, exhausted afternoon tea experience, have we got a recommendation for you that China's old, the sandwiches are old. You're paying so much they don't even keep the crusts on for you. The crusts. My favorite part, the fiber.

[00:03:10] It was, you know, I'm glad we went. So I've always so born and raised in Victoria, the Empress Hotel is like this tourist destination like people come from around around the world to even to go to afternoon tea at the Empress. Did it?

[00:03:29] I like I was like, are we on candid camera because it kind of felt like a little bit like, oh really? Anyway, I mean it was fine. High class. Like I like I'm not very fancy. I'll and I'll tell you speaking of fancy.

[00:03:46] So we came we both came out with like a full box to go right of those treats. I slammed them at like 1115 at night like John both were just like, I want to need more of that. Like anyway, it was good.

[00:04:00] I was very tempted to do a Google review and I went and looked to read some and it's getting wonderful reviews. And my favorite one was what a wonderful experience. And we had the friendliest waiter.

[00:04:13] He was so chatty and he kept recommending the blue suede shoes tea and it's what we had and we actually bought some. And I was like, you liked that interaction because I thought the guy was going to send

[00:04:24] me off into an anxiety panic attack because he wouldn't stop. I know more about that man than I do of anybody. It was unprofessional in my opinion. I wanted to go somewhere and feel like less of a human. I wanted sophisticated. I'm out of place.

[00:04:39] Their names are all Wadsworth. There's a possibility that a royal member might be somewhere sitting there. Everyone's dressed with the little fucking hats. I wanted to feel like a piece of shit. And yeah, that's what I was paying for.

[00:04:53] I wanted to feel not good enough with my best friend. We were given the best seats. They specifically put happy birthday on the thing of chocolate. We were dressed nicer than most of the people I saw jeans I saw.

[00:05:07] And they said there's a dress code and they will politely turn you away. It was exhausting. Is that I don't know it's. Yeah. I was driving to Olivia from tennis and she was like, how did it go? Yeah, I'm serious.

[00:05:26] And I'm like, eh, she's like, what is it? I went and we I wrote the worst email review for them because I went for a friend's bachelorette party and they thought we were part of a cruise ship or something.

[00:05:38] So they weren't giving us the time of day and they were rude. And the woman wouldn't even like she was like asking. We asked to have our photo taken as a group and she acted as though it was the worst thing I could have ever asked for her.

[00:05:50] They brought the wrong food. They did this. I sent a scathing email and I was like, good for you. Yeah, good because I feel like our waiter was so chatty and invasive. Like it felt it felt uncomfortable that I don't think every anyone would take that

[00:06:14] kind of like I don't know if John would have just sat there and been like and been pleasant as they keep going. Yeah, I think it would have been like, oh, we're leaving or like it's like, oh, that's enough. Thank you very much for the service. Please leave.

[00:06:32] I mean, I even I even when I was coming down from the washroom because I could see I could see he was sitting talking to you and I just went at Jesus because I thought, you know, and then he walked away and I thought, yay.

[00:06:45] And then he turned around and I was like, no, anyway, it was. Disruptive. Yeah, but like he was pleasant. And if you've been there for 25 years or something, then that's obviously his shitekin people like it. But I thought the more I think about it, I'm like, that was.

[00:07:02] I don't want to be with you guy. No, I know. I think it's that that type of service and that type of experience caters to a different type of person than us. I think there's a lot of tourists from like and don't hate me if you're from a

[00:07:22] place I mentioned, let's throw out Nebraska. Let's just throw out like a middle, small town, America place that Paulie doesn't really have much fancier than an olive branch. Nothing wrong with that at all. Like, but you're like, I'm at the Empress High Noon Tea. Like this is darling.

[00:07:40] Like people would find it that we grew up in this and I've seen into better restaurants and experience. Like it's just to me, it's tired. It's campy. It's kids and it's not done well. Like it's not like it's tacky almost. Yes. So that's how the tea was.

[00:08:02] If you've never been to Victoria and you're in that room in this beautiful hotel with that beautiful view and you've never been anywhere that has no offense to Nebraska or small town. I'm sure you don't have a lot of tea houses that look like a British castle

[00:08:16] that are on the ocean. Like, that's what I'm trying to say. You know, there's other things of sophistication in all these places. Don't get me wrong. But that's our shtick and we're sticking to it. The city of gardens, fucking flowers every like it's beautiful. Yes.

[00:08:29] But I think because we are from here, we're just like, eh. Yeah. It's no different than the city of Vegas where like, oh my God, the locals are like, fuck this place. Like it's yeah, totally. I hate it here. Yeah, that's yeah. Good point.

[00:08:41] But I still didn't appreciate the service because I wouldn't want that service at any restaurant. No, I don't want it was like he was part of our party and I'm like, no. I don't need to know your daughter's name.

[00:08:51] I don't need to know that you like asking me what my dogs breeds are. Like I was expecting him to take my phone on my hand to look for photos. Like it was yes, totally.

[00:09:00] I know I kind of thought like how how much do we have to place? Placate is that the word anyway? Have you ever did you ever go to the leathering place when it was open? Yeah.

[00:09:11] So like that was another that was like a higher hoity, toity kind of tea house. OK, OK. It's OK. But I mean, it's yeah, anyway, it doesn't matter. It's it was fine. We spent time together. We have a great story. The listeners love it.

[00:09:28] Everyone I've talked to has been like, oh my God, like we're surprised because I think there are people too that are local that have never gone. And so they probably have this idea of like, I'm expecting this. But I'm getting this like it was.

[00:09:41] I wish I had worn my hoodie that says Vulcan on the streets, clean on the sheets. I mean, totally, totally. I got rid of that. I got rid of mine. Yeah. I just thought I don't want to wear this outside of the house and I want people

[00:09:56] to see it so I don't want to wear it inside the house. I can't win. Can't win. Oh my God. Anyway, the rest of the day was it was weird, right? Like it was we were in if people have ever been curious about parallel

[00:10:08] universes, quantum leaping or glitches in the matrix. That was our freaking Saturday because we used to I mean, we used to tear the town apart when we were younger and we would start early.

[00:10:18] We'd like to go to our favorite haunts to have like a mimosa or a Caesar. And we're downtown. It's 10 o'clock, which is to me half the day is gone because I'm an early riser. None of the pubs were open.

[00:10:30] They used to open at eight or nine o'clock and it was 10. Like we don't open until 11. I'm like, what? So we were like so lost in confusion. Luckily, we found a good spot that we always like to go and we had some great

[00:10:42] sushi in Calamari as you do as one does at 10 30 in the morning. Yeah, a couple of Caesars for this girl. It was good. I did a little bit Caesar. But yeah, when we went to other places after our tea,

[00:10:58] dead, empty, yet there's cruise ships in yet it's tourist season. But people are outside on the patios. Why? It smells like piss. It's covered in bird shit. I'm convinced that if I was to walk downtown government street with a pressure

[00:11:16] washer, they would think that I was a member of Ghostbusters because they've obviously never seen a pressure washer before. I'd charge 20 bucks an hour or 20 bucks a pressure wash. I'd be a billionaire. Yeah, like all the awnings, all the sidewalks.

[00:11:31] It's just people want to sit outside while like they're not by a unhoused person or a seagull or a seagull that's unhoused. God, like it's you know. So the inside of these beautiful pubs that we have were empty and sure shows it because the staff didn't know what

[00:11:49] they're doing. So obviously they didn't have a lot of practice because no one. Holy shit. The mall was empty. I did buy boxing gloves random. But yeah, like it was weird. It just felt like oh, this is what it looks like when a place is about to

[00:12:05] become a ghost town. Like it's you know, I can only imagine what it's like in winter when there's no cruise ships. I mean, we don't know thousands and thousands for those listening. We get like we have a hot ticket item for the cruise ships that go from like

[00:12:20] Seattle up to Alaska. You know, awesome stop in Victoria because of the whatever the legal thing is about having to make a stop at a international port or whatever. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. So we get a lot of tourists coming in for a night or a day.

[00:12:36] And they'll jump on the bus sometimes go to Craigdark Castle, they're going to Hattley Cat or they go to the Bush Art Gardens and stuff or they'll just walk around town, but like don't stray off the strip of government street, man. It is gross. It is.

[00:12:50] Remember when we met those two girls at Big Bad Johns? They were from the cruise ship and they were only in town for like two hours and we were like make an eyes at them like who are these bitches?

[00:13:00] And like they didn't have any peanuts and I was like, let's get them some. And then we did and then we're like, let's be friends. And then they were from California and I was like, do you know anyone famous?

[00:13:11] And then the girl was like, yeah, the guy from Leave It To Beaver, like the renewed version. I slept with him and I was like, good for you. And yeah. And then we took them to Lucky, I thought. Yeah, we got them in. We didn't go in.

[00:13:23] We were tired. So we're like, I'll get you in and then we're like left. That's right. Yeah. I'm like, I don't remember like partying with them. But I do remember like, yeah. I think a picture with the moose or the big bear or something.

[00:13:33] The moose outside of the store. They were so cute. They were cute. Um, what else is going on? What have I gotten my notes about my route table? Rout. Rout table. Um. Oh, there's a correction corner.

[00:13:52] Oh, I will listen back obviously to our previous episode today because I finished editing and sent it to Bill and I was horrified. Shame on me. Shame on this podcast. Not only did I stumble through in general, but I totally fucked up on some Dominion War chat.

[00:14:11] Jeffrey Coombs is an Orion. No, Sarah, he was an Andorian. Gamma Quadrant a hundred years in the future. No, it's like a hundred layers distance, not future. It's time trap. It's like it's just how long it takes to get there.

[00:14:25] It's not in the future, meaning like the wormhole instantly transport you super far away to an area never explored by Starfleet. Like I just wasn't even able to like verbalize and I was getting all the aliens wrong and I was just like I had a horrible time re-listing.

[00:14:39] And also this is how I know that I am special. Why? What is my incessant need to constantly sprinkle in a movie quote song lyric or TV quote like it's a tick and I hate it.

[00:14:54] Everything we say, I don't be like, that's what you said, or it'll be like a quote from a movie or it'll be a song lyric and it'll be like, I have to say it.

[00:15:02] Like if I don't, like I would start to go red in the face because I have to say that quote, I have to just we only sound expensive. We both do it. We both do it.

[00:15:12] It's a thing, but it's when you listen back and you hear like seven in a row and you're not even at like the 20 minute mark, you're like, what the fuck is this? Like who listens to this shit? Oh, our faithful followers. Not me. No, I have to.

[00:15:27] So I know I'm sorry. John's like, I stopped listening. Like we both did. It's OK. I mean, I'm there. I kind of remember. Be a little more gentle with yourself. Jeffrey Combs, he has played 10 different Star Trek characters,

[00:15:48] including an endorian and including many other people that don't look like endorians and Dorian's. So give yourself a break. Give me a break. Give me a break. That's all cream. I've been watching the car. Pressure car. Both cream. Nailed it anyway. Anyway, yeah.

[00:16:10] So that's that's my correction corner. Good times. That's about all I got. I mean, life is good. Life is good. I went to go visit you at the toy show where you were. You had a little table with your dad. And I just want to draw attention to

[00:16:28] something that I don't think we kind of we just kind of dismissed it as like we're at we're at a toy show. But like several people named Dave were present at one time. There's a multitude of Davids.

[00:16:41] So like we're sitting we're standing there and your dad's name is Dave. And he's sitting there. And then like your old friend Dave came and said hi. And then another guy came over and was talking to your dad and his name was Dave.

[00:16:53] And then we're talking about the table next to me is named Dave. This is his helper. And another guy was coming up to the table hearing this and he kind of sheepishly looks like I'm also named my name is also Dave. My dad's name is like 70 Dave's degree.

[00:17:10] It was eight Dave's a week. I thought it was great. I thought it was awesome. But yeah, yeah, I don't really have anything else either. I mean, the tea like that's really taken over everything.

[00:17:26] Yeah, I think I told you this and I made the same joke to Olivia that I'm like I'm going to open up a place next door to it called The Impress. And it'll be better quality bread and meat.

[00:17:37] It'll be half the price and I'll still make a killing. You can't not. I mean, even if it was like $20, something optional. Yeah, The Impress. The Impress. Are you impressed? Get it. That'll be on the bottom of the receipt. Right.

[00:17:56] And it'll be like one of those really long CVS receipts. Have you seen the show? Big little eyes. That is the one. Yes, that's the rest of them. Yes, yes. Nicole Kidman and the rest. Yes, I think I've seen it twice. I think I've seen it twice.

[00:18:14] I just didn't rewatch of it recently. It's phenomenal. Yeah, it's really good. It is well done. It's really well done. Yeah, it's so good. We got rid of Crave, so I guess I can't watch it again. What?

[00:18:32] Well, the renewal was coming up and the freaking email was like, oh, your annual renewal fee is like 200 and something. And I was like, I'm not spending 200 dollars on Crave. We don't even watch it. Oh, crap, we forgot to finish curb your enthusiasm. Oh, well,

[00:18:50] we're going to see how we're going to do without it. And I think we will survive. Speaking of curb your enthusiasm, I've been listening to a couple of great podcasts that dive into, you know, conspiracy theories and fun facts. And one of them I have two stories, actually.

[00:19:08] So everybody get comfortable with storytime with Sarah. It's going to be about three hours here today. I'm going to change my voice to a very soothing, sounding slow. So I was listening to a podcast called Mr. Bollen and it's yeah.

[00:19:24] Have you seen it? You listen to it? It's good. I like it. What one? Just regular. Just the regular classic Mr. Bollen classic. And it was talking about like, you know, he does like little three stories about like what are the odds or something?

[00:19:37] And it was talking about how they were filming an episode of curb your enthusiasm at a baseball game. It was the episode where he hired a sex worker to be in the car so he could be in the H.O.V. Lane. Oh, my God.

[00:19:52] And a lawyer contacted him and was like, I need to see the footage before you air the episode. And he's like, and like what? And so the guy, this lawyer came and watched it. And there was a guy in the audience that was wanted for murder.

[00:20:02] And he's like, there's my alibi. I was at the game watching and film. And so that got him out of being wrongly sent to prison, which is there's a documentary about it. Is there really? Oh, cool. You would love it. It is so well done.

[00:20:20] Yeah, there's a documentary about it. Cool. And then today I was listening to Crackpot, which I love. And they did the conspiracy theory that Lady Gaga murdered or had murdered this singer who was up and coming around the same time she was.

[00:20:38] She jumped off of a building downtown. And it was at the time when she was filming her paparazzi music video where she's pushed off a building downtown and everyone's and there's always a little like she does a little seat, Tana can dressers.

[00:20:52] The guys are like, I don't believe it, but they're like, this is a story because they always start the episode with like, so here's what the theory is. What do you believe out of 10? He's like, this is a two.

[00:21:00] And then sometimes at the end of the episode, it's like, I am fully believing this because in other times like this, he's like, I'm still at a two. Like it's not. Yeah, yeah. But it was a really, you know, they pull in some really good.

[00:21:09] Like, oh, that's actually a real, that's a red flag. Well, that's interesting. But oh, that's dumb. Like, and they just talk about the fact that I'd never heard that one before because I've heard the Avril Lavigne.

[00:21:18] There's always like an Avril Lavigne is not dead or she is dead or she was replaced or, you know, OJ Sun. Melissa. Yeah. OJ's innocent. It was the sun. Which I kind of believe. I'm having a croissant just to ignore me. A croissant? Yeah, there. Coffee and croissant.

[00:21:37] That's all Picard ever wanted for breakfast with Beth. Oh, and some fertilized eggs. Am I right? Segway into the jackpot. Segway. Let's do it. We should talk about the show, but we should also talk about our sponsors. Fansets. You know them. You love them. You buy their pins.

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[00:23:13] I could hear the croissant and that was good. I made sure that I swallowed before I spoke. Name of your sex tape. All right. Let's get into this fucking awesome episode. Episode four. So good. Are you ready? I am. Are you like fucking like are you fucking ready?

[00:23:37] You ready to go? Excited? I just like knock over my entire jet. Kick your foot through the glass window. OK, episode four. No win scenario. I mean, that's an ominous title. OK, five years ago. All right, you have my attention. It's a bar. Now I'm really paying attention.

[00:23:58] Picard is trying to eat a nice meal, but some eager young cadets demand he tell them some story. What is like a reverse of us at the goddamn tea? OK, I'm just trying to eat. Stop talking. Anyway, they want a story and he's it's talking all about hope

[00:24:16] and kind of keep the crew steadfast, you know, a little bit about like a situation he had been in. And, you know, just kind of they're all dough-eyed and shit. So anyway, that's the start. And then we're back in our present timeline and it's not good.

[00:24:29] The ship is bleeding. Riker is trying to divert power to life support. He's in a dark place, hence why he left Troy. He's numb basically. And the ship has less than four hours before they're all dead.

[00:24:42] He suggests to Picard that he should spend some time with his son and get his affairs in order. Bleak. Like, yeah, what a depressing start. Is it me or is this one of the first times we truly really see Riker admit defeat and Picard?

[00:25:01] It felt to me so concerning, like the like kind of the despair, like this is it, like there is no hope left. I've never seen those characters do that before. And I think we've had some scenes where maybe like

[00:25:16] when Riker was having to kind of face the fact that we might have to let him go because he's look cute as or when there are four lights, like there has been instances where it's like,

[00:25:24] but you're watching an episodic TV show that was it's not going to kill off a captain. You know what I mean? Whereas this is like, I don't really know if I trust this Terry guy just yet. Like what's their plan with this final season?

[00:25:34] But this is very, I think it also shows to the caliber of their acting. Like, I think they were really given the room to fucking act in this series. Like nothing against their acting in TNG.

[00:25:46] But this was just like it was like a gut punch when he said, like you just get your affairs in order, get your affairs in order. We're going to die. Like, yeah, and hurt. It did. And it felt and I think you're right.

[00:26:00] And I like I feel like this whole season was so well acted. And I wonder too, and maybe like this question has been asked at the convention, if people are not asking about how to you know, manage their artisanal well.

[00:26:19] Like, is this did they also feel like they wanted one more season of TNG? And like they really just gave it their all because they could in a different sort of content, I don't know. So it was so good.

[00:26:37] I just the gravity well, like I remember like John and I watched together and he was like, how are they going to get out of this one? And I remember the first time seeing it and I thought, I don't know. I don't know.

[00:26:50] And the idea that like one of the main characters could be killed off potentially had not even crossed my mind. But suddenly I'm like, maybe that what's going to happen here. And also, I really didn't like the scene where he was like trying to eat his meal

[00:27:07] because if I'm ever eating alone in public for some reason, my worst fear is someone comes up and tries to talk to me. Worst fear. That's it. Not in the saturation. There's no more. There's no larger fear than that. That's the top. Yeah, that's the top.

[00:27:20] Even with all the news. I don't know if you've heard about these spiders the size of human palms exploding in the US and by exploding, I don't mean like exploding like a device. I mean, exploding like multiplying. Where in the US? I don't know. I can't Google.

[00:27:36] I can't Google it. I can't I can't ask that question. I can't look at them. They're too scary. Yeah, that's fair. But it's OK. All right. OK, so next part post opening credits, seven of nine finds the dead transporter officer that the changeling

[00:27:54] was mimicking and informs Riker of it. And he wants to keep it quiet. Like he's so shady in that he's been snapping up a card. He's ready to die and he wants to keep things hush hush.

[00:28:06] He kind of also though said like, you know, I could reinstate you because having you unofficial has potential. So very sneaky, sneaky. So he's definitely still got a little bit of that Riker with an idea about him.

[00:28:21] Dr. Crusher is counting down to the next wave that hits the ship so that she can, you know, brace for impact and stands with Jack as Picard comes into sick pay. Picard asks for some time with Jack, which he gets. And now it's showtime. Don't come. Don't come.

[00:28:38] Don't come. Barks at his knife. Like, fuck how hot is he? But come on, this is gross. Did they really expect viewers to be able to pay attention when he's on screen? Like Riker records a message to Troy, but struggles to find the words.

[00:28:56] Jack and Picard hit up the holodeck to visit a bar. Is it is that guy in his bar that we saw like in the previous season? I can't remember. Anyway, next house, I'm going to build a Star Trek bar in the basement to he is so 2011.

[00:29:10] Picard wants to hear about Jack's life and why he decided not to get to know him. Back to Shaw, who's helping seven and trying to understand the transporter guy being one of the chosen by the changelings. Like that doesn't make a lot of sense.

[00:29:24] Why is it saying that I'm running out of time already? We just started. Half an hour ago. What? OK. So yeah, they're trying to understand like why would they go after the transporter guy? It doesn't make a lot of sense.

[00:29:37] And then they're trying to figure out like, how can they stop this guy? Or what can they get him? He's like, well, just steal his pot and she's like cannabis. Sadly, no. Ah, classic. And then, oh, look, Rezegoo as he shows a picture of Odo and his bucket.

[00:29:50] Whatever. Whatever he decides, whatever. He's so done with everything. He's just yes time off. Dr. Crusher is counting down again. And now I'm remembering why this is significant. I'm remembering the episode as I'm watching, which is always exciting.

[00:30:05] Seven is searching for the bucket like a mad woman and she finds it behind a light fixture, Rezegoo. One of his podcasts gets worse. Vatican is back and she's just randomly cutting her wrist. Oh my gosh, she's a changeling too. I think what that?

[00:30:21] OK. And then a really gross face comes out and it's all scary and it demands that Vatican go after the Titan, even though it's pretty much suicide. So what do you have to say about this?

[00:30:34] I have some things to say, but I'm going to start at the end already. Do you remember? Do we see what ends up happening with that scary face? Tarman? I don't remember. I don't either. OK. Maybe it's an extension of the board queen. I can't remember.

[00:30:51] OK, Picard, would you give me a moment or two with Jack? Beverly? Yes, of course. I'd like to do a genetic test. I'm not wasting my last hour of life with a kid who might not be my son. I don't have time for this.

[00:31:06] John and I went down to rabbit hole about how holodex work because we were just like the same, like I don't think that is guidance bar. I don't think it is. It's very close, though. It's got a bar or was it the same one?

[00:31:21] He was having his meal in and the flashback and he build a holodex program to match. I feel like it's the holodex. It's a guidance bar from season two of Picard when they go back in time to earth. And that's when we see a young guy.

[00:31:33] And it would make sense that it would be just because it's like, yeah. And like, yeah, exactly. OK, let's just say that it is. OK. But yeah, we went down this like sort of rabbit hole about a holodex and like matter and food matter

[00:31:49] and drink matter and like how does it? But there's like some sort of recycling thing. So we were fine. I liked the honesty of the interaction between Picard and Jack, except for when Picard swore, he said the F word and John's like my freaking ears.

[00:32:06] The scene with Shaw was very well done. He is a great actor. I hope it humbled Picard. It humbled me, I wrote. Just really, really well done. And I missed the bad part because I was getting some cheese. What kind of cheese? Mozzarella cheese and also Swiss cheese.

[00:32:28] I have night cheese every night. Yeah, just like with lemon. I love it. Vatican is so good, so creepy. The spin spinning in the chair is such a thing. Like it's such like a like calling card of that character. She plays it like I just.

[00:32:47] Yeah, my diploma is like imagining her at a freaking convention. I think that would be really cool. Yeah, and that shot kills it again with the sarcasm and just being a dick. Like it's it's a very heavy episode though. Like it's it is really depressing. So part three.

[00:33:06] Back to the flashback as Picard tells his story. This time he's referencing the Darmuk and Jalot or whatever, you know, one. And someone who can't take the hint asks another question this time about a no win scenario and his best friend. That's the name of the show.

[00:33:25] Yeah, that's the name of the episode. That's the name of the episode. Jack Crusher in a no win scenario. And I'm just like, let them in. Folks come into the holodeck to hang out and die. And Picard welcomes them in as he's hanging out with his son, Jack.

[00:33:40] Seven is walking with the bucket and an officer walks by and notices it. And I was like, he's siding that bucket. It says bucket. That says home. He fires on her and kills a crewman and he changes form and absorbs into the wall. Super gross.

[00:33:56] And now back to the bar. Jack wants to hear about Jack Crusher, his dad and the situation. Picard got in with him. Those two buffoon stole a shuttlecraft so they could get laid basically. Shaw joins in now and we get the best scene in the whole season.

[00:34:14] I even want to say the whole series of Picard. I'm not even going to break it down. If you haven't seen it, watch it. Picard and Jack leave and Crusher comes at them with what she's realized. There's a countdown happening. Contractions.

[00:34:30] They formulate a plan to hitch a ride on the waves by using the power surge they get from them divert the power to thrusters. Bob's your uncle. I actually use that same quite frequently because my old super bar used to say it all the time. Bob's your uncle.

[00:34:44] Farpoint is referenced. I love that. You know, start at the beginning and here we are at the end. Riker isn't into it. Will needs to snap out of his pity party. Crusher snaps him out of it by saying that Troy would make it all

[00:34:56] about trust and doing what we do best. So now Riker is on board. OK, we need to talk about Shaw, the dipshit from Chicago. I. I mine. I already did my note was the humbling the humbled. Yeah, I messed up. I jumped ahead. Yeah, no words.

[00:35:22] I mean really well done. And it made me think about the implications of the actions of those on the enterprise like I'm not talking like the Dominion War, whatever that was, the Borg one. Wolf 359. Yeah, that I'm not talking about that one.

[00:35:39] I'm talking about like all the times that I've all like I blindly supported Picard and his crew just because I'm biased. And I just think about like what are what are some of the implications of that crew in the planets that they've visited

[00:36:01] and the people that they've met even with the Prime Directive. Like they don't always follow it. And like obviously like Wolf 359, Wolf from Alpha, whatever it is. Like that was like a terrible thing and like Picard was a Borg.

[00:36:16] But like I really think about all the sort of ripple effect from the other shit that they got into. And that's what I love about it because it does give you a more robust opinion of whatever the situation was because as you watch TNG,

[00:36:33] of course, you're led to love these characters. That's what the show is centered on. It's centered on the captain and his crew and you love them and you support them. And it makes me think of TV shows like Breaking Bad where here you are

[00:36:47] rooting for the bad guy, but like take that show and make it a whole six season TV show about this guy who's got a great daughter and he used to play Q and she died. Suddenly this hero that you have is the villain.

[00:37:01] Or if you were a fan of Sons of Anarchy and you always watched it and then they decided to do another TV show and it's all about all the people that were victimized by them and murdered. And you're just like, oh yeah, like they had families too.

[00:37:13] Like, oh, they're bad, but you root for them. You know, like it's just so to see, to put a face on the trauma that was caused like he obviously suffers from PTSD. I had no idea it was 11,000 killed by Picard as an out of his control

[00:37:29] as the cutest, but that's a massive slaughter of people. That's a percentage taken away from Starfleet ships destroyed lives destroyed because of the Borg and he acted that part so well. And then the line at the end of being like, oh, like I'm just an asshole.

[00:37:55] Now it used to be charming or whatever. Like it was just like explained so much. And also explains why he references 7 of 9 is handsome because he hates the Borg. And so he's like, I'm not going to call her 7 of 9. Yeah, fuck those guys.

[00:38:07] Like, yeah, I still got a chip on my shoulder. And rightly so, he was randomly selected to live. I just thought it was such a like moment. Like that's the aha moment, I think for anybody watching the show that didn't know what to think about Shaw.

[00:38:19] It's like, oh, oh, like now you sympathize with the guy. Now you understand like this is the reality of what it really is to be like a starfleet. It's not all space exploration and fun times and first contact.

[00:38:32] Like there are people that have had shit happen just like people who go to war. Yeah, exactly. There are consequences or consequences or you know someone who knows someone who went through something scary and like, yeah, so good. OK, part four. Totally part four. Part four.

[00:38:53] I had to do it. I couldn't not let it go. What the fuck? Riker makes this big announcement saying they have a plan. It's a risk, but you got to try. Picard goes to see the dipshit from Chicago, seven space, LOL,

[00:39:10] because he needs a grease monkey love that term that it survives into the future. Yes, it's funny. Yeah. The intensity increases as the ship gears down. Everyone takes a deep breath, holds it and they prepare for their great escape.

[00:39:26] Picard, with all his experience, flying blind is given the con and he's going to lead them out to safety. I have butterflies in my stomach watching this and then he does it engage. And the smile from Riker and Sidney. It's just fuck like I love this show.

[00:39:46] I got so emotional. I'm getting emotional just thinking about it right now. Like it's perfect. Go. The up to the roller coaster of this show, like, OK, maybe they're going to be OK. Like they're kind of maybe going to figure it out. It's encouraging.

[00:40:06] John pointed out that they they decreased the inertial dampeners like to nothing along with everything else. But like that means that everyone would have been like thrown around the ship and stuff, but it didn't happen. So. Riddle me that. Riddle me that. It's not real.

[00:40:27] And I hate to have to say it because I want it to be real. And I also really love that despite them wanting to seven and Sha are teaming up, you know, people are putting aside some shit to work together

[00:40:41] because they literally have to save their own goddamn lives like they have to. Yes, we do. But it's like these moments where you see like. I don't know. It's just it's just the nostalgia for me. Like I I loved this show so much when I was young.

[00:40:56] I still do love it. Yeah, when you get him saying engage and you see the little side smiles and then you have Sydney LeForge there just knowing who she is. You're just like, oh my god, like why isn't this just

[00:41:10] a show that's on every single day like days of our lives? Just pump out some shitty stories on a regular basis for us. I am still watching more exactly. Yes, totally. OK, part five. Hardcore part five. All right, we're back.

[00:41:29] The ship is moving and grooving through the asteroids and other space debris and may keep diverting power, etc., etc. Sha has one thing of nacelles open and Sydney comes in offering to help. And Sha is immediately suspicious.

[00:41:46] Hanson is there with a phaser on her head telling Sydney to turn around and say, Commander, who? And she's like, Commander Hanson and she shoots her. It's the changeling. But how did she know because out of respect, Sydney calls her Commander Seven,

[00:42:06] which we saw in the previous episode. Yeah, it's a good dig at Sha. Meanwhile, Jack reads out the location of asteroids and Picard barks orders to make the ship navigate them all with success. Of course, now life support is offline. When does it end?

[00:42:21] People this show is stressing me out. They hit the wave. The ship is recharged and they are riding the wave. The nebula is changing and the Shrike is now in sight. So Riker calls for the tractor beam to be used. And what do they do?

[00:42:39] They cut the beam and throw an asteroid at the ship. It is so bad ass. Damn right he did. And there you have it. A bunch of space babies are born and floating around and it's super cute. The flashback returns and it's that old bar scene again

[00:42:54] where he couldn't have his goddamn meal and Jack Crusher, his son that he didn't know about in a hat, is asking about Picard's family and he says Starfleet's the only family I've ever needed. Ouch. And now we have Riker sending a message to Troy

[00:43:11] and she's on the screen. Yay, we finally get her back. Yeah, the last scene we see is Jack washing his face and having another vision and the words find me and visions of destruction and the door and it's all red.

[00:43:24] And oh boy, this kid has got some issues and end of episode. And what an ending. Like especially like I don't know, like it couldn't even give us like two seconds to like feel good that they like made it. No, instead it's like,

[00:43:41] oh, remember this is also happening. And it's like, oh, man, it is still dark. Yeah, no, no, no. It was it was a really good way out of it, though, because it totally made me think of Encounter at Farpoint. And I know they referenced it even

[00:43:57] and that was the first episode of the whole series. And it was, you know, you're in space and you just can't assume that all life forms are living on planets doing their planet life. There is stuff out there surviving in space

[00:44:10] and that's what they got caught up in. And it's the rebirth just as they're being reborn. And then you get that sharp. And then it's nice to see like Riker finally getting to talk to Troy and you're like, OK, they're working it out. That's really good.

[00:44:24] But then it just stabs you right back in the heart. And it's like there's Jack taking the courage to seek out his father and then get brutalized emotionally with his response. But, you know, for didn't know he would have said that if he knew.

[00:44:40] No, he wouldn't have said that for all. He knew he was talking to someone that didn't have parents and was looking for a family and family. Yeah, like it didn't know he's old. He can't hear well like now he's just trying to eat his fish and chips.

[00:44:53] Give him a break. Chips and fish getting cold. All right. Let's do some trivia stuff from Internet Movie Database. Why don't you start us off, my friend? I will. Please. Picard tells the cadets about the events of Darmok, 1991,

[00:45:12] where Picard encountered a race who called themselves the children of Tamar. They communicated by speaking entirely in metaphor. What a inconvenience. Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of that episode yet. It's considered one of the top ones. I guess it's unique.

[00:45:30] I guess it's people know what you're talking about when you talk about the Darmak and Jalad at Tanagra. What? I have an idea. Yeah, what is it? We only talk in metaphors. We already do that. No, but when we're finished Picard season three

[00:45:45] and if we decide that rewind is going to keep existing as a show, maybe we should go back and we should watch Darmok and maybe we should go back and watch Encounter at Farpoint because I don't think we did those ones

[00:45:53] and we'll touch on some of the ones that are referenced more in this series. Yeah, we could do that. Anyway, OK. On the holodeck, Picard mentions that it was still functioning despite the Titan's power levels being dangerously low because it runs on its own independent power system.

[00:46:12] This fact, yeah, this fact was first established in season one of Voyager when the ship is first stranded in the Delta Quadrant. The crew looked into different methods of augmenting the ship's energy in the cloud 1995. Harry Kim experiments with tapping into the holodeck power grid.

[00:46:28] But each time he does, it blows out an EPS grid. Both Harry and Torres come to the conclusion that the type of energy used by holodecks is incompatible with the rest of a starship's power grid. It's true. It is. The Arcanus. Lager. Logger sign.

[00:46:51] Did I say the Arcanus, right? I think so. Logger sign. Arch. Enus. Lager sign. Lager. Logger sign on the wall in 10-4 is exactly the same as the one shown in the bar in Star Trek III, the search for Spock 1984 when Dr. McCoy

[00:47:12] is trying to charter a space flight. Well, I've never seen a search for Spock. So how about? I probably did. I would not have paid attention to the sign on the wall. No, pay no attention to that sign on the wall. At approximately 10 minutes when Seven is searching

[00:47:29] for the changeling, a Vulcan strategy game, Cal-Toe, Cal-Toe can be seen on the desk. This was frequently played by Tuvok, Harry Kim, Echeb and even Seven once during the seven year run of Star Trek Voyager 1995. And don't they bring this game up? Yeah.

[00:47:50] In, yeah, later at her like performance review or whatever. A picture of Otto appears on the tablet, providing information about changeling buckets. Yeah. I have eyes. I saw it. They showed the tablet. The knife used by Vatik is almost exactly the same design

[00:48:07] and shape as the one used by Shenzhen and Star Trek Nemesis. That's nice, but it's not the same one. So that's at the restaurant. You paid 20 grand for it. We don't talk about that at the restaurant where Admiral Picard is having a meal

[00:48:23] and fielding questions from the cadets around sticker with an image of a red left hand is plastered onto the painting frame on the wall. The sticker denotes left hand brewing, a Colorado micro brewery founded in 1993. This brewery gained fame for fame for cheap word of mouse advertising

[00:48:41] by plastering the stickers all over Denver and eventually nationwide and beyond. Well, I wonder if there's one up at Big Bad Johns. I wonder. Interesting. During his soliloquy to Picard and Jack Crusher in the bar, Captain Shaw says, and I'm just some dipshit from Chicago.

[00:49:01] The actor, Todd Stachwick, is himself from Chicago. Oh, I wonder how he tapped into that. I really want to go to Chicago. I've never been on our list. Heard it was windy. In their chat, Jack Crusher asks Picard about the hair,

[00:49:21] presumably worried that he will go bald too. Picard tells him to enjoy it while it lasts. However, how pattern baldness is polygenic due to several genes and complex. So having a bald father is no guaranteed that one will inherit the trait.

[00:49:35] However, contrary to the myth that men inherit, this is inherent baldness via their mothers. One could inherit it from one's father. All of this makes the unlikely assumption that this condition has not been cured by the 24th century.

[00:49:48] Well, yeah, like it's that and a whole bunch of other stuff. You know what? The bald is not bad. Bald is no too. Yes. Yeah, when Amanda Plummer as Battick spins around in her captain's chair, it's reminiscent of when her father,

[00:50:05] Christopher Plummer as General Chang did the same thing in the undiscovered country. I think this was a fun fact that came up from the first episode or second episode when we first saw her, but still. He also did it. He also did it in the sound of music.

[00:50:19] Um. Captain Shaw is revealed to be a survivor of the Battle of Wolf three five nine from the best of both worlds part two, nine to nine, which explains his hostile attitude towards Picard. This mirrors how Benjamin Cisco, whose wife was killed at Wolf three five nine,

[00:50:40] behave to us, be cat when he made some face to face for the first time in emissary 1993. Yep. Yeah, hard is not that much loved by some people. There's definitely some strong feelings there. Understandable. It's not beloved. The creatures that are birthed out of the nebula

[00:51:00] resemble those that Picard, Riker and Beverly Crusher had encountered with the encounter at Farpoint 1987. Picard mentions this specifically as happening at Farpoint Station. Those not in the know. The method the Titan uses to use the energy wave. OK, the method the Titan uses to use the energy waves

[00:51:22] in the life form to surf out the nebula is similar to the one that the Enterprise D uses to escape from a subspace rift and force of nature 1993. Voyager also uses a similar method to escape from a wormhole. They are forced to collapse the wormhole while inside it

[00:51:38] and use their shields to surf the shockwave out of the wormhole in night 1998. All right, that was a scary one. There you go. At approximately 45, 55 and alarm sounds when all power from life support is transferred to thrusters. This alarm is also used in the film Alien 1979

[00:51:57] when the self destruct is activated. The music from Alien was composed by Star Trek veteran Jerry Goldsmith. I did not know that. Oh, OK. The whole time you were talking, I'm like 45, 55 is not a time. And then I was like, oh, it's 45 minutes in and 55 seconds.

[00:52:14] Is that what they mean? Yeah. Oh, OK. I was like, guess what? You guys screwed up again. Guess what? That is a time and you clearly do not understand time. But like, yeah, apparently, it's been a thing forever and you've never like what?

[00:52:31] Wait a second. How many hours in a day? The last shot in which Jack Crusher washes his face and re-experiences his dream vision mirrors the opening scene of Star Trek First Contact in which Picard also uses the washing basin and has a dream vision. OK, yeah.

[00:52:49] Also like washing his face and then the board stuff comes out. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. But that's also like first contact. Yeah. Yeah, me too. That's that's a really good one actually. I like that one too a lot. Yeah.

[00:53:04] Easter egg at twenty two twenty two minutes in a day. Two hundred hours or twenty two hundred hours. How long was this episode? A day from Institute billboard sign races by the villains spaceship. Cool. Neat, neat. Oh. When Vattic spots the Titan emerging for the nebula, she says,

[00:53:24] there you are, there you are. This is a nod to Khan's similar exclamation in Star Trek The Wrath of Khan, which they don't say what he says. They I guess we're just a small thing. Go figure. All right. Internet movie database Goofs. Nice.

[00:53:42] Ensign Laforge is wearing the Delta style comb badge throughout the whole episode, but at about 50 minute mark, she's shown wearing the future all good things. 1994 Starfleet comb badge when she's ordered to leave the nebula. Really obvious error. So blatantly obvious almost ruined the episode.

[00:54:04] How would they even really took me out of it? How would they even have that error, though? Why would they have a different maybe they filmed on different days and the uniform sure were the first time was being washed and they had to give her another one.

[00:54:22] I already had a pin on it. It was the wrong pin. Yeah. But still, whoever's responsible for pins organize your junk drawers better and organize things based on the year they're supposed to represent. It's an organizing theme. Yeah, totally.

[00:54:39] And I think this is like reflecting badly on the costumers, not on show. Shame on them. Yes. And Star Trek for four. The voyage home that you love trying to read. In Rome and the five. Yeah. The voyage home. 1986.

[00:55:06] Spock becomes concerned by Kirk said in use of minor swear words. But now in the 25th century, even the F word appears among many others. This is merely due to the target audience and changes in accepted broadcast standards.

[00:55:18] Star Trek 1966, the original series was on TV, which rarely allowed swear words. The movies were aimed at family audience, so we're restricted in what they could say. That's a big eye opener right there. The the date for the voyage home, because I always think of that.

[00:55:36] That's the one with the whales, the voyage home. I like that movie. That's one of the few original. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be that scene. Me too. But I feel like that that movie is so old yet it was one year later

[00:55:48] that the first episode of TNG started in 1997. Didn't we just see that in the previous one? Like I had no idea they were that. And that's right. Me neither. Oh, the whole world is collapsing. I know.

[00:56:03] OK, if throwing an asteroid with a tractor beam was a weapon capable of damaging a starship with technology more advanced than possessed by Starfleet, it would have long since been adopted as a standard technique. Just let Riker come up with a cool idea, guys.

[00:56:17] Also, it's no that's not a goof. Also, it can be a standard technique, but you're not always around asteroids or something that you can just willy nilly pick up and throw. So like who's to say? Who? All right, you're good.

[00:56:32] Log in and make up, make other big account. Just comment just to downvote people. Do you have Instagram? Can I follow you? I don't have Instagram. What I do have is an IMDB account where I correct people's errors. Several Vulcans are shown hugging and caressing other crew members

[00:56:54] to comfort them a very emotional act and very unlike a Vulcan. I'm sorry, like in the hours before they're all supposed to die. Is that all? How do we know that they're full blood Vulcans? They could be half and half like Spock. This taught. Yep. You're totally right.

[00:57:10] You know what happened? You know what they say about assuming it makes an ass out of you and me. OK, it does. When dictating his admiral's log, Picard says the star date is 7, 8, 1, 8, 3.10. Star dates are always stated as a numeral with one digit past the decimal.

[00:57:28] And since the number past the decimal is point one zero, there's no reason to state the second digit anyway. That is an error. That's a goof. Jesus Christ. All right. Moving on to something better. Jim Morehouse, who is a writer and contributor to TrekCore,

[00:57:47] he's been consistently giving some really good stuff. So that's why I've been adding in TrekCore. He seems to find a lot of good Easter eggs, too, which just don't show up on the database. So. Lest you think last season's Jirati Borg situation from the end of

[00:58:04] Picard season two is being completely ignored this year, Captain Shaw makes a brief mention of that whole mess. Forget about all that weird shit on the Stargazer. The real Borg are still out there. Yeah, cool. We get in.

[00:58:19] We get yet another Janeway reference this week when the young officers being regaled by Picard asked if she helped him when he went face to face with the hero Jin, hero Jin, hero Jin. Who the hell were they?

[00:58:34] Weren't the hero Jin some bad guys they came across in the when they were far out of enterprise? No. Oh, a delta quadrant. Voyager. Oh yeah, there they are. Yeah. No. It is worth noting right now. It's worth noting right now. You listening? Tell me. Yes.

[00:58:58] It is unclear if the new meaty looking changeling effects are an updated modernized visual effect, or if it's something to do with this group of changeling dissidents who have removed themselves from the great link. Yes.

[00:59:13] That you know when the guy shoots because he saw the bucket and he becomes like a big blob of like bacon fat. Yeah, yeah. When it went Odo would like, you know, revert back to his liquid form. It looked like gold mercury.

[00:59:29] Like it was very like shiny gold like liquid. It wasn't so chunky. So people are wondering is that because of this modern visual effects? They just decided to change it up or is it something that identifies these

[00:59:43] changelings as being unique from the greater link of others of their kind? One I wonder. I also I put a couple pictures in the chat for you about what those guys look like. The hero Jin's. Enjoy. Oh, well. Are they dressed or is it naked? Her origins.

[01:00:05] Oh, yeah, they're dressed. They're okay. This one. Here's one for you on duty and sick babe. Beverly Crusher once again dons a blue lab coat. That's nice. A golden ambassador class model can be seen in the foreground of the cards.

[01:00:28] Ten forward flashback along with a publicity still of the former Enterprise D captain and Guinean from Star Trek Generations. Cool. Cool. Similar to the double red alert moment in the conscience of the king. I don't know what episode that is or what series that is.

[01:00:49] And I certainly don't know what year it is. So that's not helpful when the profile of a phaser is seen hidden behind a light panel in Kirk's quarters, seven finds the changelings bucket behind a light panel and fosters quarters.

[01:01:05] The conscious of the king is obviously an episode of the original series. If it's Kirk double red alert. Oh, yeah. All right. It's nice to see that Odo's choice of a Cardassian style art deco bucket for regenerating has caught on across the great link.

[01:01:22] And it's nice to see Starfleet still has a photo of Odo on file. Hmm. As the Shrike jettisons the portal device in order to go deeper into the Nebula, we briefly see a Daystrom Institute placard rush by camera as it tumbles through space.

[01:01:40] Yeah, we saw that in the IOD, but this had better description. Well, definitely. Totally. The needle drop which opens the episode is slam Allen's 2015 song can't break away from that girl. Cool. Good to know. And finally, this is the 29th franchise directorial credit for Jonathan Freaks,

[01:02:03] including his two track films and the sixth writing credit for Star Trek Picard show runner Terry Mattelis, Sean Traite, who co-wrote the episode with Mattelis now has two writing credits on the series, both from this season. He was a prolific writer on the Mattelis Helmed series, 12 Monkeys,

[01:02:22] was more than a dozen writing credits on the show. Well done, writers. Indeed. Indeedio. I want to do a really cruel. Do you want to play a little game? No. Maybe. Do you have anything else to add? Did you see any Easter eggs in there?

[01:02:47] Did you catch anything? No, it was just a great, great episode. Yeah, I'm excited to watch the next one. Me too. I might even do that tomorrow or something because I'm like, keeps the blood pumping. Yeah. Final thoughts.

[01:03:05] I wish I don't think that we find out what those red, viney things in the red door and all that stuff mean, like Jack's visions. I remember looking. Yeah, I mean, I know what it means, like

[01:03:19] ultimately, but I don't think we know what the significance means of those visions. Like the actual, like why is he visioning these red, viney things? I think it's like capillaries, like kind of in your and the door and stuff.

[01:03:33] But I remember like looking that up and there is no explanation for it. But I'm just like curious what we're supposed to take from that. Other than that, I'm just like waiting for the other crew to arrive. I know, I know.

[01:03:50] Like all the rest of the reunions you want them all together and like, yeah, I know I can't wait. I finished discovery. Discovery is now. Serious completed. Done. I only watched the last season because I wanted to see if anyone was going to die.

[01:04:07] Basically, no one really died. No, it was it was it was fine. It was I really like Sneak Martin Green. I really do like her as an actress because I really enjoyed her on the Walking Dead. Doug Jones is a treasure for sure.

[01:04:25] But I didn't really have that big of an attachment to Saru. He gets married in the final episode to an ambassador from Vulcan. So good for him. I was also curious to see if they're going to get back home because,

[01:04:38] remember, they're 900 years in the future, but they're still there. Still still stuck in the future. Apparently the new show Starfleet Academy takes place in the future. And I wouldn't be surprised if Tilly's involved somehow because that was her

[01:04:52] gig like she left the ship to be like, I'm a teacher at Academy. Not into it. Not really into the 900 years in the future kind of kind of stick. They got going on. They did have the Breen, though they were the bad guys and the Breen was mentioned

[01:05:07] in the last episode when I was listening to our editing. Something came up about the Breen. So there was a kind of like a full circle moment again with like changelings and Breen, I think. Oh, and what it was was like a character. In the series. Oh, OK.

[01:05:22] Did you ever? I'm not even going to try to explain it. There was a character that showed up that was kind of mysterious on Discovery. It was played by that old guy who's like a fashion person or whatever.

[01:05:33] Anyway, he or his famous director writer, this is terrible podcasting at its best. Anyway, it turns out he was remember an enterprise? There was reference to a temporal war. And there was that tall skinny guy who was like, I work from the future and I

[01:05:51] work in temporal war. This old guy is him. Oh, he he's been a character that's kind of popped up throughout episodes of later seasons of Voyager and he is that guy from Enterprise. So that was their full circle arc. Cool. Was I like that? Yeah. So that's it.

[01:06:14] It's done. How many seasons are there? Five or six? Yeah. And I think it's going to be one more season of Lower Decks, which I'll watch because it's funny and they always get really good guest stars in it to make jokes and stuff. So I'll watch that.

[01:06:30] And then waiting for Strange New Worlds. I love Strange New Worlds. It's so good. It's like it's the that's what Star Trek should be like the adventure. The yeah, I love it. Yeah. But after listening again because I just listened to our last episode

[01:06:48] today as I finished editing it, I kept saying like I should review a rewatch of Deuce Space Nine. And I think I might put that on as a background like starting at season five or something with the Dominion War, because it was it is gritty

[01:07:00] and rewatching Picard and loving the kind of intensity of it and the kind of dark like it's it's good. And I and the storytelling in Deuce Space Nine was really good. And I totally had forgotten that like the whole ship or the whole space

[01:07:14] station was like occupied by these bad guys and Casey Biggs is great. And like all of them are great. And I can't really remember what the hell happened to all the characters. Like did Dr. Bashir go somewhere else or did he stay on there?

[01:07:28] Or did what happened to Cork? Like I can't really remember and I do like a lot. I liked a lot of those characters way more than I like any of the Voyager Voyager or Discovery characters. Yeah, I never really got all that attached to Voyager.

[01:07:40] Like I've seen it straight through. I love Seven of Nine. I like Janeway a lot and Chacote, but Torres, Tom Paris, Harry Kim, Cass, Nelix, the Doctor, like none of them really did. Like I just never really was like, oh my God,

[01:07:59] where is like the ensemble of TNG is like I love them all. Yeah, for sure. And I love all the characters on Stranger Worlds. Yeah, that is a good show, except I don't like one character. And I liked all the people that showed up in Picard this season.

[01:08:13] And actually the other seasons too, like the dude and the girl and the other girl and the guy. They're all that don't know their names, but they're all great. The guy with the hair and then the chick with two eyes. Yeah, yeah. Phenomenal. Unforgettable. Unforgettable.

[01:08:34] That's like a good cramer when he had dental work and he tried singing along with Mel Torme and they thought that he was. Oh, yeah. That's a chicken episode. Um, that's it. That's all I think that that is all we got to say about that.

[01:08:49] Another stellar episode of of Rewind, frankly. Love us. Love what we do. Me too. So that's the end. Hold your breath and count to 10. Thanks for listening. We're loving it. Picard season three is a winner.

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