This week on Star Trek Lower Decks, Captain Freeman gets her wish as "Project Swing By" is approved by Starfleet Command! The Cerritos has been chosen for the first mission to return to, of all places, Omara - you know the drug addict planet from TNGs Symbiosis? You would think the mission was a piece of cake, but this is Lower Decks, so nothing goes as planned - especially when a reporter from the FNN comes on board to do a report on the Cerritos and its mission. Not only does Freeman have to deal with a potentially damning interview from, of all people, Mariner, but she also has to deal with an old enemy of the Federation during a sneak attack!
There is a pie eating contest, there is great artwork about life on Ornara and there are great messages about trust and friendship on this penultimate episode of season 3, Trusted Sources!
Dan, Kasey and Bill have a great time talking about every aspect of Episode 9! From Starbase 80 to the planet Brekka, strap in and get ready for some great fun and discussion!
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[00:01:12] A new mission, the return of a dangerous enemy and a shocking resignation.
[00:01:19] Episode 9 of Lower Decks gives Captain Freeman the mission she's been campaigning for since
[00:01:23] season 1.
[00:01:24] But when a reporter joins accrue to do a story on the Cali class starship, she's concerned
[00:01:29] Mary will mess things up and well it's lower deck so you know it won't end well.
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[00:02:05] Episode 9 of Lower Decks trusted sources brings a news reporter on board to detail
[00:02:09] the first new swing by mission of the Cerritos and Captain Freeman really wants to show how
[00:02:15] great her ship and crew is.
[00:02:17] One is, she thinks Mariners gonna blow it for her.
[00:02:19] Yeah way to go mom.
[00:02:21] And after visiting a planet that we haven't seen since TNG season 1 and really didn't
[00:02:26] want or need to, things get real interesting on a different planet when a former enemy shows
[00:02:31] up and wrecks havoc on everyone's favorite Cali class starship and crew.
[00:02:36] But as usual I'm getting a little ahead of myself before we get into too much detail
[00:02:40] about the penultimate episode of season 3, I have to introduce my two amazing co-hosts.
[00:02:45] They really are the finest podcast crew in the quadrant and I can't do this without
[00:02:48] them as always to help me break down this week's episode of my two good friends Bill Smith
[00:02:52] and Casey Shasky.
[00:02:55] Well Bill Lower Decks always has amazing callbacks that surprise us and this week we got
[00:02:59] to go back to the drug planet from TNG so yay.
[00:03:03] Yay, this is an episode of TNG that I love thanks for the intro Dan and it's kind
[00:03:10] of cool to go back there after all this time especially in Lower Decks because we can
[00:03:15] kind of be cheeky about it and that makes me happy.
[00:03:18] Yes, well get into that I'm sure and Casey on top of everything else that happens this
[00:03:22] week we actually see Freeman put Dr. Greenbird or Dr. Migglymau in charge of the Cerritos
[00:03:30] so just another normal week for our favorite California class.
[00:03:35] Hey doctors she'd always kept in starships.
[00:03:39] Oh yeah we know what happens with that right Troy.
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[00:03:48] we start our discussion this episode of Discovering Trek Lower Decks does contain spoilers so
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[00:04:14] So guys second to last episode of the season this season has been fantastic so far let's
[00:04:19] start out with our thumbs up or thumbs down as we have done for most of the season I'm
[00:04:24] going to give it a thumbs up I thought it was fantastic I really liked it there were
[00:04:27] some fun parts there were some serious parts there were some surprises and some callbacks
[00:04:31] to Great Trek which we always love so thumbs up for me Casey what about you but thumbs up
[00:04:36] my friend you know they always know how to have a strong ending or close to ending of
[00:04:43] a season love that yeah absolutely and Bill I think you're going to probably we're
[00:04:47] going to be going three for three.
[00:04:48] We are three for three thumbs up definitely I like the premise of this episode I like
[00:04:53] how it sets Captain Freeman on some uncertain footing and I like that there's some real
[00:05:00] tension between her and Beckett plus like Casey says you know they get really strong toward
[00:05:07] the end of a season and that tells me a lot about what we can expect in the one episode
[00:05:12] to come later in the season.
[00:05:14] Yeah every season finale of Lower Deck so far has certainly not disappointed so we'll
[00:05:19] see what happens with that next week one of the things I liked about this guys is that
[00:05:24] this was a good episode about trust and the lack of it shown to Mariner I was I was really
[00:05:30] unhappy with how ransom reacted to everything that was going on and even more so with Jennifer
[00:05:36] and even Boimler to a point everybody of course they have this close relationship and
[00:05:41] then all of a sudden at the first sign of trouble everybody points a finger at Mariner
[00:05:45] I know Mariner I know she has the reputation but that kind of that kind of made me feel
[00:05:50] kind of bad Bill I'm not sure if you felt the same but I felt bad for the girl.
[00:05:54] If you'd like I can hug you I didn't feel that bad okay yeah I think that that's a credit
[00:06:01] to the way this script is crafted they wanted you to believe that it was Mariner and because
[00:06:07] it's it's in character for her I mean whether or not she'd go to that length to torpedo
[00:06:14] her own mom is debatable but it's plausible and I think that's why that element of the
[00:06:19] story works this is something that that really painted the serritos in a bad light and I
[00:06:25] think that that's why people react so viscerally honestly.
[00:06:28] Okay so do you think it's it's normal for what we're seeing with lower decks and for
[00:06:34] the California class that they have such a bad reputation when they really have a fan
[00:06:40] they do a fantastic job but just about everything they've done yeah the reputation seems a little
[00:06:47] out of place with all the accomplishments that are going on with the serritos we you know
[00:06:54] we don't know everything that's happening with the other Cali class ships but yeah part
[00:07:02] of that you kind of go well if there's this reputation but then you know hey you do a good
[00:07:07] thing and you do a good thing and where it's a pattern it's not a one-off where they're
[00:07:13] oh they're having success after success then at some point really unless people are just
[00:07:19] burying their heads in the sand the reputation has to change because then it's no longer
[00:07:26] your credit as a captain on some other type of ship where if you go the Cali class ships
[00:07:33] aren't doing anything then you've lost credibility if anybody looks up the accomplishments
[00:07:38] that the serritos crew have done yeah Bill do we think that do you think that it's part
[00:07:42] of the issue of that question that I pose to Casey is we get to see the lower deckers but all
[00:07:50] of the things that the serritos in the California class have done let's look at example for the
[00:07:55] end of season one where they save the day and and they've done some some pretty huge things
[00:08:00] over the course of three seasons do you think that I'm looking through it through a lens
[00:08:04] of that the lower decks people always seem to be the ones that get the the bum end of the deal
[00:08:09] and maybe that's why that that that reputation is out there or do you think it's a valid
[00:08:14] reputation because California class isn't the enterprise it isn't Galaxy class it isn't sovereign
[00:08:19] class it's just California class I think it's a ladder I think it's because it's California class
[00:08:24] I think we you know we have a perception because we see you know behind the curtain you know
[00:08:29] in us you know we understand why things are the way they are and we know that these Starfleet
[00:08:33] officers on this ship are just as as brave and valiant as the ones serving on the USS Enterprise
[00:08:40] you know we see that in the in the in the whole brain attack storyline you know uh ransom is
[00:08:46] ransom doesn't shy away from anything he's right there in it you know and same with Freeman
[00:08:51] they they act like Starfleet officers so I think it's a Cali class that gets a bad rap
[00:08:55] because it's second contact it's not you know uh it's not it's it's it's not a status job
[00:09:04] yeah and and and on top of of second contact now it's swing by uh which I like how one of the things
[00:09:11] that I've liked with the writers have done with lower decks is they've had a lot of continuity
[00:09:15] the continuity whether it's from 25 years ago with episodes that we saw in the original series or
[00:09:20] or excuse me in TNT or deep space 9 or what we saw in season 1 where she started talking about
[00:09:24] this idea of operation swing by she finally gets it she's very nervous and oh it's gonna be awesome
[00:09:30] but we're gonna give you a reporter and when has a reporter on a starship ever gone wrong
[00:09:36] let's just ask Captain Harman of the Enterprise B shall we I mean Casey that was something that you
[00:09:40] knew right from the get go having somebody from the FNN on was was was gonna go bad and it certainly
[00:09:47] didn't disappoint anytime editing is controlled by someone else you never know what the outcome is
[00:09:55] gonna be and usually the outcome for certain things you know on news to sell commercials
[00:10:03] the goal is to make you dissatisfied with your current situation so you think oh if I buy this
[00:10:09] thing that they're advertising I'll feel better about what's going on so yeah once again not shocked
[00:10:16] that the reporter did the reporter type of inside addition slash job that just uh crushed that ship
[00:10:25] you really you're yeah go ahead they really was an inside addition type piece who case you nail it
[00:10:31] with that description I was for the life of me earlier I was trying to figure out what show it
[00:10:35] resembled in that are a current affair come right among it was just that kind of gotcha journalism and
[00:10:43] yeah like you said it just journalists on starships never work out all that well
[00:10:48] we've seen some great voice guest actors uh this season in in lower decks in season 3
[00:10:54] it would have been awesome if they somehow would have gotten James Earl Jones to come in and do
[00:10:58] the CNN thing by going this is FNN the Federation News Network I would have been just I would have
[00:11:05] been dying that would have been fantastic but we did see um I kind of thought coming what was
[00:11:11] gonna happen and I think Bill you alluded to this a few minutes ago where she wants to interview
[00:11:15] the crew so we know that that's gonna be a problem and everybody seems really excited about it
[00:11:19] they're they're they're going to talk about what they love so much and then Mariner goes in and then
[00:11:24] all the the wheels fall off the cart and there's all this huge problem and as we find out
[00:11:29] Mariner's not the problem everybody's just having great conversations and talks about things that
[00:11:34] aren't necessarily an issue to them but make the California class look bad
[00:11:38] and that's part of that whole reputation problem well it goes back to context right you know
[00:11:43] uh when when Freeman and Ransom confront Mariner they say that she went in and said all these things
[00:11:50] out of context so it made them look bad um and that's really what the other stories were
[00:11:55] you know some of these other people like K-Sean and some of the other crew members
[00:12:00] relate some of these stories that they were involved in or that mattered to them
[00:12:04] and to the reporter it looked absolutely silly so I mean yeah getting turned into a hand puppet
[00:12:09] that might seem silly to somebody I get it um maybe a silly is being held by a giant green hand
[00:12:15] in space who knows but you know without proper context it tells us that really anything can be
[00:12:23] misconstrued or blown out of proportion as it was with this reporter.
[00:12:27] Casey what do you thoughts on that? Absolutely I mean come on this this what's
[00:12:35] of get it goes right back to uh reporter trying to build uh instant trust with people
[00:12:45] and to to get them to loosen up and to get juicy things that they may not think are juicy
[00:12:53] and or whatever and fulfills what the agenda or hidden agenda of that reporter is
[00:13:01] so it can just be you know you get people talking in the longer and longer longer certain stuff will
[00:13:06] come out where you go oh yeah I could I could cut that right there and there's your those the
[00:13:11] little sound bite that'll work that you can manipulate it any way you want to and it may have nothing
[00:13:19] to do at all of how the situation actually was. Yeah I agree 100% speaking of juicy because you
[00:13:25] used the term juicy a second ago um starbase 80 let's talk about starbase 80 we finally get
[00:13:32] see kind of though we see the two people show up in the in the little mini shuttle um do we really
[00:13:37] think that there's any place in starfleet that is that disgusting. Do we really think there's any
[00:13:42] place in starfleet that's run by 80's stoners I I built Bill and Ted to get a job somewhere.
[00:13:50] They really did. It just I have a I have a hard time believing that even uh you know some kind of
[00:13:57] starbase on the edge of the frontier in someplace where rejects go because starfleet is not about
[00:14:03] that I mean they even found a place for red sparkly on the enterprise or it starfleet academy
[00:14:09] if he can find a spot I have to believe that someplace like starbase 80 probably wouldn't exist.
[00:14:16] Yeah it was it was kind of gross Casey um not gonna lie and it what did it smell like it's not like
[00:14:21] sweat and something else I forget what it was but it was a pretty funny line uh you
[00:14:26] you all around when when the when your shuttle comes in and it's greasy I'm like we guess what now
[00:14:34] elbow grease. Not that elbow grease it was like mmm thank you. Well one of the things that I found
[00:14:44] very interesting actually before I get to this I got I got one other question. We're either of you
[00:14:48] surprised by the resignation of of Beckett at the end of this episode do you really did
[00:14:55] did we think that she was gonna stay at starbase 80 or was she just gonna say that's it now before
[00:15:00] you answer that I will say I can't imagine it's gonna be long I don't know if we're gonna have
[00:15:04] to wait till next season for her to come back or if it's gonna be next week um but I can't imagine
[00:15:09] that it's going to be a permanent thing but were you surprised Bill that that we saw her take this
[00:15:14] step. I was a little bit shocked I uh not incredibly I mean I wasn't like you know jaw dropping but
[00:15:20] I thought they might be able to get some interesting storylines out of the starbase 80 thing um because
[00:15:25] I mean they teased it so really in the season you know if it's that place that's that dreaded let's
[00:15:30] see why it's that dreaded um the only thing I didn't like about her leaving Starfleet is that she
[00:15:36] hooked up with that treasure hunter from career day that just doesn't work for me um that's not a
[00:15:41] development I dig no pun intended. But that's a good pun absolutely go ahead Kasey.
[00:15:49] Please save us. I wasn't surprised because I could see the mirror character just going F this
[00:15:57] no you're not dumping me off into you know like the worst summer camp whatever type of thing
[00:16:04] that you want it was like I have options and you know they made sure that we all knew in the audience
[00:16:10] that she had options earlier. So it was kind of like um and part of it like Bill you're saying
[00:16:19] I don't think they could show it to us because the whole aura of how awful this place is or how
[00:16:25] crappy it is in our heads we're all thinking certain things and they'd see it and go well okay well
[00:16:31] that's not that bad and like you're saying how can it how can a start base really be that bad
[00:16:36] yeah there's there's no way so I cut I wasn't surprised on it as like okay she was just to hey
[00:16:43] peace out you know and did she actually to I remember correctly she did the Vulcan thing that she
[00:16:48] didn't season one too where she just was like see ya and she didn't add as she was walking away
[00:16:52] yeah good old mirror um so I do have one thing I want to get to we're gonna talk about fans that's
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[00:18:41] okay guys so here we are gonna wrap up some of the discussion that I some of the points that I
[00:18:49] had and that's the return to Omara that was wow that was completely unexpected I didn't know bill
[00:18:56] that you really liked the episode symbiosis I hate that episode I do not like that episode at all
[00:19:02] I've never liked it the only thing I like about that episode is when the guy like electrocutes
[00:19:06] riker and he's like absolutely that's that's that's that part I like that's awesome because
[00:19:11] Freak says his look on his face like he should you can't see it in an audio podcast that's pretty
[00:19:17] much the only part of that episode that I remember and like but so I was really surprised but also
[00:19:23] another great example of what this team is capable of they pull stuff out that we would never think
[00:19:30] we would have seen ever again and it works 100% the whole storyline about the enterprise leaving
[00:19:38] and what their society went through to get to the point that they are now with that mural T-Series I
[00:19:43] want that mural my room at home because that was really something perhaps you can set it up behind
[00:19:48] the skulls from Star Trek Picard when they make things available I like that idea too yeah I love
[00:19:53] that we got a chance to go back to Omara at the end of symbiosis you know Picard essentially leaves
[00:19:58] these people high and dry he does and rightfully so in a way I mean from their perspective it's not
[00:20:05] but from our perspective it's like aha he gotcha he is he obeyed the prime directive and he found a
[00:20:12] way to get them off the junk I like the fact that we went back and revisited what happened to
[00:20:19] these people and I find out they just got addicted to fitness was hilarious it was pretty good
[00:20:25] and ransom certainly certainly like that well you were fan of them returning to that plant actually
[00:20:30] Casey let me ask you this you were fan of the original TNG episode symbiosis no no guys know what
[00:20:37] you're missing I know I know exactly what I'm missing and I'm glad you love it and enjoy it but
[00:20:44] NUNCA for me the best part about symbiosis is that you get two guest actors from Rathacan
[00:20:52] you do and start trying to do same episode you do I saw the best the best part of that
[00:20:58] episode was the ending credits oh I hear the music's pretty good yeah TNG the motion picture
[00:21:06] they used in the end credits yeah what a great coincidence so so we see what's going on with Omara
[00:21:13] pretty awesome okay things are good that mural is still awesome I still want that mural in my house
[00:21:17] so they decide to go see what's going on on brecca the neighboring planet this was the part that
[00:21:22] I absolutely loved I was so so happy to see the brain back or the guy from return of the Jedi however
[00:21:29] you want to look at it um but it was it was it was great to see the brain and their weird starships
[00:21:38] fantastic call back to DS9 they're still pretty they're pretty pretty big nemesis no pun intended
[00:21:44] to other star Trek movies but it was good to see and they worked in the story really well Casey
[00:21:50] there are great villain when when you can't understand a thing that the villain's saying
[00:21:56] like it's like it's like what what is the motivation it's like these creatures are just terror
[00:22:03] they're there's coming at you and there seems to be no reason none whatsoever so yeah very nice to
[00:22:12] that was a great surprise wasn't expecting them Bill I agree 100% at first I wondered what happened
[00:22:20] to the people on brecca you know I'm like did we stumble into something bigger like some kind
[00:22:26] of catastrophic event did the disruption of this drug trade kill everybody on the planet
[00:22:32] and then to find out that it was a you know a brain surprise attack was even cooler if I can use
[00:22:38] that word because we haven't seen them in so long and then you get that energy dampening weapon
[00:22:44] that's like oh whole whole great great continuity there they still have that weapon and it causes
[00:22:49] lots of problems um until someone comes to the rescue um in the form of the automated ship
[00:22:58] I can't remember the name it right now I apologize but I you know
[00:23:02] when has ascension computer ever been a good thing uh maybe we should ask dr. Dastram
[00:23:08] uh I don't I don't know I'm just asking but I've got a real bad feeling about this it was great
[00:23:12] it came in swoop and saved the day but I'm never a big fan of autumn fully automated AI buddy
[00:23:19] look how well it worked out in TOS look how well it worked out really any other time the computer has
[00:23:25] been in charge um you know even in TNG I mean when people kind of co-op the computer to take control
[00:23:32] of the ship it's not cool um you know so I I have a feeling there's a lot more to this and
[00:23:40] this isn't the last we've seen that that Texas class no for not by a log shot yeah um
[00:23:47] I like the idea of what the admiral is trying to do you know you want to save lies but isn't the whole
[00:23:52] idea of Starfleet exploration that's the whole reason why they are in existence they're not
[00:23:58] Bill and I talked about this on Trekkieke this week there are semi militaristic organization even
[00:24:04] though their prime uh directive no pun intended again is exploration um so it's it kind of
[00:24:12] it's kind of a slap in the face if that an admiral of this stature would be doing this
[00:24:17] for the good of protecting lives when the whole idea of our lives is to go out and explore more casey
[00:24:23] well you're not exploring more casey but explore more common maybe they're going to be one
[00:24:27] out there hello there well part of it think about it if you're somewhere if you were in a
[00:24:35] continent here on our planet and someone came by first contact does that and then X amount of time
[00:24:42] later something comes where there's no person you're dealing with it's like just cold and clinical
[00:24:52] and I was like how how is that um relationship building for for any civilization and that just
[00:25:02] you really take you're taking the humanity out of everything yeah how is an automated drone ship
[00:25:13] going to make first contact yeah you know how was it going to make second contact I mean how is it
[00:25:19] going to address the needs of a federation member world um or how's it gonna negotiate a treaty
[00:25:28] it can't do those things nobody to beam down so I mean it's just it doesn't it doesn't make sense
[00:25:33] and I mean you can go back to TOS with Landrue and and um the the apple all of these things that have
[00:25:41] computers running things it always goes bad and for someone who's an admiral in Starfleet to think okay
[00:25:47] I'm gonna design a starship that's fully automated because nothing has ever gone wrong in the history
[00:25:52] of Starfleet or any of our exploration I'm sure it's gonna be great or does it I got I got a bad
[00:25:58] feeling about this as another franchise is fond of saying from time to time as you should
[00:26:04] you know we've seen it all too often um I just I I got I have the same bad feeling
[00:26:10] hmm and Casey I know I can tell you're on your page you got bad feeling too
[00:26:15] it it it shall not end well let let me ask you this guys one other thing I wanted to ask is we
[00:26:21] have seen in the three seasons of lower deck that we've watched so far we've seen a lot of times
[00:26:27] where the lower deck crew is talking about this certain mission from Picard or what happened
[00:26:32] on deep space nine and this that and the other thing they know all this stuff wouldn't you think
[00:26:37] that some of this stuff would have been classified by Starfleet command but they seem to know an awful
[00:26:40] lot like the brain and the energy dampening weapons and stuff like that they seem to have an idea
[00:26:45] of what was going on and we're able to come up with a way to defend the ship when they were being
[00:26:49] attacked by a race and a species that really hasn't been seen since the Dominion war and they didn't
[00:26:55] even know a lot about them before then I think it's kind of the opposite I don't think it would be
[00:26:59] classified especially since it it goes to you know being able to defend a Starfleet vessel
[00:27:05] you know all these ships make logs and they're all I want to say publicly available but they're
[00:27:10] available to pretty much anybody in Starfleet as we've learned through next gen you know because
[00:27:14] they can call up somebody's log on a different starbase and go through them so I I have to believe
[00:27:20] that some of that data is there and some of these lower deckers are big time nerds oh yeah
[00:27:25] we've seen that with Boymler actually yeah absolutely that makes total sense what else you got
[00:27:30] guys for this episode there was a lot going in on this episode or a lot going on in this episode
[00:27:35] it warm me out quite frankly I have two things the first of which is I love that the emblem on
[00:27:44] the reporter's pin kind of looks like the CBS logo that always makes me happy when we see a callback
[00:27:50] of whether it's you know in the bad computer storage in Okinawa or in this case but really the
[00:27:58] burning question of this episode and something we haven't brought up yet is how have we never seen
[00:28:04] a de-replicating trash can before in Star Trek we see it here at the at the pie eating contest
[00:28:11] in the lounge they're just taking the pies zip them into this trash can that essentially turns
[00:28:16] the pies back into energy I want this more than I want to transport quite honestly speaking of
[00:28:23] pies well am I the only one that that thought of breaking bad with that whole pie eating content
[00:28:27] no okay good because I mean that's a classic moment from breaking bad with the with the pie eating
[00:28:33] contest and that's initially what I started thinking about and I got to say Marin is kind of a
[00:28:39] bad pie eater if she's got that blueberry all over her uniform for so long into the episode well
[00:28:46] yes but but also have you ever seen stand by me in the pie eating contest there oh yeah it was
[00:28:53] so long ago so let's see now I don't remember it's you know it's been a long time some some
[00:28:57] good times pie eating contests are rigorous and aren't always everything that can stay into the
[00:29:04] system and it's like hey that that's how it goes and if you get it on your hands in your shoes
[00:29:11] yeah whatever I only wish that you know to complete the rep the circle back to breaking bad
[00:29:19] it had been a tulibarie pie oh yes that would have been really good now would have been the best
[00:29:25] wink at a nod back to a non-canon source ever and I really can't fault it for that because I mean
[00:29:32] I love blueberry pie but tulibarie would just been the icing on the cake yes yes it would have
[00:29:38] so Casey what else you got anything before we wrap up about things that stood out for you
[00:29:42] I know we talked a lot about different things this whole this whole conversation captain Carol
[00:29:47] Carol being Carol yelling is quite intimidating yeah and it's like
[00:29:55] I was like yeah if I'm a crew member on that it's like okay um
[00:30:01] she's pissed let's go here we go I will I will do whatever work I need to do as far away from her
[00:30:09] as possible to have her happy about what's going on yeah you don't you don't get a lot of yelling
[00:30:17] captains in Star Trek you know shut up that damn noise that's about really the only other one I can think of
[00:30:23] hey not wrong not wrong well because I mean their job is to be in command right well I think that
[00:30:31] I think that Freeman you know yells because she really feels betrayed honestly
[00:30:38] and it's it's disheartening to hear her have that reaction to Mariner that she does
[00:30:45] because it's her daughter you know especially when she says I don't even know if I can call
[00:30:49] you my daughter anymore I'm like my heart sunk a little bit because I mean that was
[00:30:54] it was a blatant over reaction on her part but it was coming from some place that was just
[00:30:59] a deep wound and she didn't have the information to make that comment she was assuming and everyone
[00:31:07] assume she was she everyone assumes what she but but I'll go back to what Bill just said
[00:31:12] she's a captain she's not she needs she needs to do a better job but you're right she's very
[00:31:18] very very intimidating well if you have you know someone that you've given birth to on your crew
[00:31:29] that's got to be incredibly hard I mean I would always go where our home room teacher
[00:31:35] was the father of one of the guys in the say in that home room and it's like I couldn't believe
[00:31:41] how it would be for both of them for four years of like this isn't just your your teacher
[00:31:49] this is your parent and then you're the kid and like how do you be yourself when your parent
[00:31:58] is there 24-7 yeah well I guess we're gonna find out what happens a great episode nine
[00:32:05] to season three a lower deck so that means there's only one left Casey so what are we
[00:32:09] that coming up I know I'm sorry I'm sorry in the bearer bad news but what do we have coming up next
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[00:34:36] for lower decks episode nine trusted sources how long will we see Marin are not in a Starfleet
[00:34:42] uniform with only one episode left in the season I for one hope we don't have to wait until season
[00:34:47] four to find out as always I need to give a huge shout out to my two cohorts Bill and Casey guys
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