The Next Generation

The Next Generation

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The amazing Final Season of Star Trek: Picard has concluded and, now, we begin our look at this amazing reunion of the crew of the Enterprise D. Beverly Crusher is in trouble and, in reaching out to Jean-Luc Picard, she tells him to "trust no one," including Starfleet.

Star Trek: Picard's final season brings together some iconic characters for an amazing last mission together, and we're going to kick off our analysis of it with episode 1, titled "The Next Generation." Heyโ€ฆthat's got a nice ring to it.

Bill Smith & Jamie Rogers will break it down. It's the start of a wild ride in Season 3 and we're glad you're here to take it with us on Discovering Trek: THE Star Trek Universe Companion, presented by FanSets!

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[00:00:36] with an old friend and commandeering a starship. That should be easy right? The amazing final

[00:00:43] season of Star Trek Picard is concluded and now we begin our look at this amazing reunion

[00:00:48] of the crew of the Enterprise D. Beverly Crusher is in trouble and in reaching out to Jean

[00:00:52] Luc Picard she tells him to trust no one, including Starfleet. It's the start of a wild ride

[00:00:59] in season 3 and we're glad you're here to take it with us. I'm Bill Smith and we are Discovering

[00:01:04] Trek Picard. Thanks so much for joining us and welcome to Discovering Trek V Star Trek

[00:01:17] Universe Companion presented by fansets. Star Trek Picard's final season brings together

[00:01:23] some iconic characters for an amazing last mission together and we're going to kick off

[00:01:28] our analysis of it with episode 1 titled The Next Generation. Hey, that's got a really

[00:01:34] nice ring to it doesn't it? Before we get into too much detail about this amazing season,

[00:01:39] I have to introduce my crew here in this lonely little shuttle pod here on Discovering Trek

[00:01:45] Picard. Here to help break down the first episode is my good friend and fellow Trek eeks

[00:01:49] podcaster Jamie Rogers Jamie, welcome to Discovering Trek Picard I have a feeling you might be

[00:01:56] excited to talk about this. You know me I'm always excited to talk about my next generation

[00:02:01] cast you know my trek obviously and I'm excited to break down season 3 where we know we got

[00:02:08] the whole cast back together again. You know one of the nice things is kind of doing this in a

[00:02:14] rear view window. I mean you figured that's what Star Trek podcasts were for years and we kind

[00:02:20] of have the benefit of knowing how this season ends as we talk about these episodes and I think

[00:02:25] that's pretty interesting. We're still going to focus clearly on episode 1 but we may drift down

[00:02:31] the timeline in our discussions a little bit and that's okay but in the meantime let's talk

[00:02:36] about episode 301. The Next Generation is written by Terry Matallis and directed by Doug Arnie

[00:02:41] Koski. After receiving a distress call from Beverly Crusher Jean-Luc Picard and lists help from

[00:02:47] generations old and new for one last adventure, a mission that will change Starfleet and his old crew

[00:02:53] forever. Originally released on February 16th 2023 it is the first episode of Star Trek Picards 3rd

[00:03:01] and final season. Well let's dive right in Jamie I mean there's a lot to dig in here in this

[00:03:07] first of the 10 episodes. A lot of great exposition and a lot of elements that I can imagine they're

[00:03:15] going to call back to in the future. Yeah no absolutely and you know we really see that Terry Matallis

[00:03:22] he's a Star Trek fan I mean he's a Next Generation fan throwing through and it's like not even just

[00:03:28] the Next Generation elements but the Wrath of Khan elements are like all over the place you know

[00:03:34] the Wrath of Khan sound effects, the music it just all I can think of is the nostalgic elements.

[00:03:42] That's how I feel as I'm watching this episode you know especially that opening scene right where

[00:03:47] we see Picards log from Best of Both Worlds. Yeah I'm actually doing a rewatching next-gen right now so

[00:03:53] to hear that log from Best of Both Worlds is awesome. I love the Enterprise painting obviously that

[00:04:00] was you know from the Ready Room. It's just the nostalgic elements really puts me back in my days

[00:04:08] of watching TNG so something I really appreciated watching this episode. You know I kind of get the

[00:04:14] sense that the theme that we kick off here is that kind of everything old is new again you know

[00:04:20] you get the really kind of old-time music to kick off the episode you get the log entries you mentioned

[00:04:26] than nostalgia the music even then that's one of the most important characters in this season.

[00:04:31] We get variations on themes from other Star Trek from James Warner, Jerry Goldsmith, Jay Chattaway,

[00:04:38] Jeff Russo and all with original music kind of wrapped around it which I think is really kind of

[00:04:44] fascinating. It tells us that while this is familiar it's still something very very different when you

[00:04:51] say oh absolutely like I said I love how he's like weaving in Wrath of Khan stuff with next generation.

[00:04:59] It's just it's so so good but you're spot on with the music the music was fantastic. I mean

[00:05:06] I cannot say enough good things about the music and the sound effects and it just it really put me

[00:05:12] back in the moment of this is what I've been waiting for when I've watched the first two seasons

[00:05:17] of Picard you know this is what I want. Yeah I want to say. Speaking of familiar but different let's

[00:05:23] talk about Beverly Crusher because obviously her entrance into this episode is very striking

[00:05:30] it's very bold. I think that this probably sets the tone for the entire season and honestly

[00:05:37] this is the most kick-ass we've ever seen Beverly Crusher and this is better than anything she got

[00:05:43] to do in any of the four feature films. Yeah no I 100% agree with you and they it's interesting to

[00:05:49] this you know concept of the fact that she kind of cut out the rest of the crew members too and kind

[00:05:55] of went on. I almost feel she kind of mirrors how Jerry Ryan was you know the seven of nine character

[00:06:02] from season one of Picard you know how she kind of became that mercenary that rogue that pirate

[00:06:10] almost to a certain extent it's kind of what Beverly's become and yeah it's great she's got the

[00:06:15] you know she's got the phaser out she's you know she's kicking butt. I just I did think it was kind

[00:06:21] of a weird story element though too that she kind of cut out the rest of the crew you know and

[00:06:27] obviously we see that you know she had the relationship with Picard and you know it kind of didn't

[00:06:33] go so well so to speak but it was a surprising plot choice for me that she kind of cut out the

[00:06:40] rest of the crew I didn't really see that coming but it set up kind of an interesting you know way

[00:06:46] for her to kind of reach out and you know for Picard to obviously want to help her because he hadn't

[00:06:52] heard from her in so long and there's that bond there is that that connection. Agreed I kind

[00:06:58] of feel like it's in the same way of you know when you have old friends in your lives kind of drift

[00:07:02] apart and maybe you intend to maybe you don't but you you you don't communicate as often or you know

[00:07:09] your lives go sit in such completely different ways that they're not the same as those other

[00:07:14] people anymore. Maybe you feel like you don't have anything in common. I think in Beverly's case it

[00:07:19] was probably a very specific choice because you know in not being with Jean-Luc that means that

[00:07:28] every now and then they got to get the band back together and awkward you know. Well then she's

[00:07:34] got got to explain who her passenger is too right? I know right? The passenger she locks in a

[00:07:43] compartment for some reason which I still haven't figured out but well that's definitely not an

[00:07:48] important detail this episode so I have a question if Picard weren't in the process of packing up

[00:07:55] the chateau would he ever have known that Beverly needed help by hearing that old combat?

[00:08:01] No apparently not. Well no it's you know it's crazy. It's kind of funny I mean it works for me

[00:08:12] don't get me wrong but it made me wonder as I was watching it again I'm like so if he had just

[00:08:17] decided to keep making wine and just live on the chateau in La Bar with with Lairis does he ever

[00:08:23] find out about the combat signal or does it happen too late when Earth is assimilated by the

[00:08:30] Borg skipping ahead sorry spoiler alert. No and I feel like it was like so faint it was like literally

[00:08:39] like he had to be in the right room at the right time yeah you know he had this little

[00:08:43] chirping going on but no I agree with you it was kind of uh you know they had you know and I know

[00:08:49] why they did it because they knew we were gonna just light up when we saw that TNG

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[00:09:06] sponsor plug nicely do yeah they they knew we were gonna love seeing that you know I got excited

[00:09:12] I got excited but no it was definitely interesting we're gonna introduce you know her distress call

[00:09:19] two things that they really grabbed me about this scene and just made me scratch my head as an

[00:09:22] IT professional one Picard's password is still 4.7 alphatanga it's been 30 years dude you

[00:09:31] gotta change that surprise your members as a 95-year-old abnormal I know and that's a great point

[00:09:38] why is a 95-year-old retired admiral in a synthetic body the only person who can save the world

[00:09:45] in every season I love it don't get me wrong no and the interesting part about that too is okay he's

[00:09:52] a he's an admiral he's been around forever he's a legend why can't he just go to I know she said

[00:09:58] don't involve Starfleet but it's like he's got no pull at all with anybody in Starfleet you

[00:10:05] know I mean like Rafi in season one when they were trying to get a ship like she had more pull than

[00:10:11] he did I mean yeah I don't know that that part was kind of crazy to me that they got to sneak

[00:10:16] around like he should have had some I mean he should have some people other than you know the cast

[00:10:23] and crew of the 1701 day that that should be able to help him speaking of which I mean we see the

[00:10:30] return of Will Riker again you know I got to say if we had to pick an MVP for this episode and

[00:10:38] maybe even this season for me I think Jonathan Frakes has to be right up there this version of

[00:10:43] Riker I think probably is my favorite I didn't think this was possible but Riker is even warmer

[00:10:51] and more charismatic than I think ever before and I think Jonathan you know who only a couple of

[00:10:57] years ago had some some nervousness about coming back to the role really just knocks it out of

[00:11:02] the park he was fantastic and and it's funny you know I mentioned that I'm doing a rewatch a TNG

[00:11:08] and I I just got to best of both worlds and you know there's that scene between between Diana

[00:11:16] and and and Riker where she says oh you're a little more seasoned and I I thought of that scene

[00:11:22] you know when I was watching for Cart season three that scene was playing through my head he

[00:11:26] looks seasoned he looks seasoned as an actor even though he's been out of the game for a while but he

[00:11:32] just the character is just matured in a way that I liked the progression I mean I like seeing him

[00:11:40] in season one don't get me wrong I love that episode to Pente but um you know he's making pizza it

[00:11:46] just this was the type of Riker that I wanted to see um as we start you know this that first

[00:11:52] episode of season three I feel like despite some obvious potential family problems Riker is more

[00:12:00] comfortable in his own skin um I feel like he's more at ease you know he doesn't have to make all

[00:12:06] the decisions he doesn't have the lives of everybody body on his ship you know riding on his every

[00:12:11] you know decision in the moment he's just Will Riker um you know and I think that I think that

[00:12:19] freaks wears it well and I think that the scenes with Jonathan and Sir Patrick together are just

[00:12:24] gold in this episode yeah no absolutely absolutely I um I I think it's great also speaking of

[00:12:32] other returning characters it's always awesome to see Jerry Ryan in Star Trek it's even better

[00:12:38] that seven looks thoroughly miserable when we meet her on the Titan a and like she's regretted

[00:12:45] putting on that uniform ever since she was talked into doing it um you just they walk out of

[00:12:50] the shuttle bay and there she is looking like yeah maybe I really would rather be somewhere else but

[00:12:56] here's my friend yeah absolutely yeah it's funny though it it seems like she's been miserable throughout

[00:13:03] Picard yeah in general yeah you know she was miserable in season one um kind of miserable in season

[00:13:11] two you know so I think I don't know I like to see how our character obviously of what we kind

[00:13:18] of we do see how she evolves throughout the season but um it is interesting and it kind of plays

[00:13:24] into you know Captain Shaw too is what what are we getting from this this captain that we got here

[00:13:30] on the ship you know and for me you know I feel like they're kind of and I and I like it I like it

[00:13:37] and I know we see Captain Shaw developed throughout the season but I love the fact that he comes right

[00:13:43] out as almost like the badmoral character that we remember from the original series like

[00:13:49] like boy man he just he doesn't care who's sitting in front of him he doesn't care what they've done

[00:13:56] it doesn't care he's gonna say what he feels and this guy's got some bitter bitterness towards the two

[00:14:04] people that are in front of him for sure really the three if you count seven yeah um at well

[00:14:09] this picks up a good point I mean because Shaw obviously is created in a way where we're designed to

[00:14:14] not like him off right off the bat yeah I mean he starts dinner without everybody right there

[00:14:20] telegraphs that this guy is is a jerk um but is he bad or do we just perceive him that way

[00:14:29] because he's not immediately acquiescing to Picard and Riker yeah you know he's not

[00:14:34] finding over them and bending over backwards um you know if we if we juxtapose it if if their roles

[00:14:40] were reversed and Shaw were an admiral coming on board the enterprise to ask them to change

[00:14:47] you know tell them he wants to change course what would Picard's in and pretty sure he'd say no

[00:14:51] yeah absolutely and and I like the fact that you know when I had to put myself in the in the minds

[00:14:58] of a captain too is you know he's he's thinking about his crew he's thinking about his ship and

[00:15:03] he's saying himself okay uh these guys gonna put me in a position where I'm gonna put my crew at

[00:15:08] risk or my ship at risk or my command at risk what are they asking me to do right and and that's

[00:15:15] maybe he's being a good captain you know just his approach and his bedside manner is you know

[00:15:21] leaving something to be desired but the actor plays it so well and it's so believable you know

[00:15:28] it's like you said you want to hate him in the beginning but you're like man he's a good actor doing

[00:15:33] it you know Todd Stashwick is just so fantastic I mean even in just this first scene we see him

[00:15:39] is Shaw he clearly you know sets a tone of what this character is going to be but you know that

[00:15:47] there's going to be more you don't want to hate him because he he's a Starfleet guy he's generally

[00:15:52] not bad but he's treating the people we admire like dirt I mean he's petty right he puts Picard and

[00:16:01] Riker in bunk beds you know a retired admiral and a captain who have saved the planet

[00:16:09] and the galaxy countless times over and he sticks him in bunk beds like they're like their cadets

[00:16:15] yeah that says something about who Shaw is yeah and there's some room for growth

[00:16:22] oh absolutely but you know once again like I think back to how TNG started you know in Gene

[00:16:27] Ron Berry's vision of that original TNG it's gonna be no conflicts between any of the main

[00:16:32] characters it was like you know we hadn't really seen the baddie yet that we're going to see in

[00:16:37] the season but we had to give some sort of counterpoint we couldn't just have the admiral we couldn't

[00:16:43] just have this you know captain say yeah let's go on this mission then I don't nothing about and

[00:16:49] you know they had to have some sort of counterpoint there to our beloved characters of Riker and Picard

[00:16:56] I mean essentially they're trying to commandeer a starship you know take it somewhere other

[00:17:01] than it's really supposed to go and yeah like you said they're putting the crew of that entire ship

[00:17:06] at risk that that's a potential problem but I'm sure that's on Shaw's mind yeah um I have a feeling

[00:17:15] that we're gonna love Shaw more and more as the weeks go on as much as we really hate the things

[00:17:20] he does one of the things I saw that was interesting where people were comparing him to like

[00:17:26] captain jellico and I think that that's not even a fair comparison because it's a completely

[00:17:31] different situation you know something else I was wondering bill two is I wonder how much of the crew

[00:17:38] served under Riker as well right because yeah if you think about it and you brought up jellico as

[00:17:45] an excellent comparison was jellico necessarily a bad captain we didn't really see enough to

[00:17:52] really make that judgment I mean some people say yes some people say no you know his approach

[00:17:57] but his approach was so different than Picard you know that the crew bristled against it you know

[00:18:03] they were used to Picard style so this maybe a similar situation here right he's coming

[00:18:09] into a crew that had Riker as their captain or maybe some of the crew had Riker as their captain

[00:18:16] and he's got to fight against that and he's got a different way about him a different style and

[00:18:21] you know maybe people aren't warming up till we don't know we don't know what the situation is but

[00:18:27] you know I was kind of thinking about that as we're having this discussion about Shaw's

[00:18:31] you know maybe that's another thing maybe he sees Riker and he's just like you know

[00:18:34] you're the guy that I've had to undo or change certain things because you had it a certain way

[00:18:41] and you were Lucy Goosey and how you did stuff and you know Mr. Jazzman and all that all the

[00:18:47] same Mr. Jazzman whatever whatever derogatory insult he was hurling his way yeah you know

[00:18:53] it's interesting because I think that at this point I mean we're one one episode in on Picard season

[00:19:00] I think it's at this point it's safe to say that both Jelico and Shaw may not be the best people

[00:19:04] managers but as far as their status as captains it's really hard to say yeah we have to believe

[00:19:12] that they're competent because they are the masters of their vessel but I have a feeling there's

[00:19:18] more complex things regarding both of them we didn't get that deep dive into Jelico because

[00:19:23] he's really only you know portions of two episodes but we're gonna build on this with Shaw and

[00:19:29] learn much more about him and and I'm really excited for this journey because like we said Todd

[00:19:35] Stashwick just kills it you know even in the very first episode so we know there's even more

[00:19:40] better stuff coming yeah it's fantastic speaking of fantastic let's talk about Rafi I love to see

[00:19:46] Rafi back I don't know about you but I didn't buy for a minute that she had fallen off the wagon

[00:19:53] no I didn't either because I felt like if they wanted to go down that route it was gonna take too

[00:20:00] much of the season to kind of unravel that web so I didn't buy it for two seconds and it looks

[00:20:06] like she's doing you know special investigations for Starfleet Intelligence which I think is fantastic

[00:20:13] I think that suits her I think it's a good role it's weird that she's the only person to board the

[00:20:18] lost Serena okay I'll take it yeah but she is quite the quandary on her hands trying to figure out

[00:20:25] this whole red lady thing at the beginning of the episode and then by the end it looks pretty dire

[00:20:31] yeah absolutely yeah I mean I like turn that section 31 roll two because if I if I remember correctly

[00:20:38] even an episode one we kind of saw him things that she was part of Starfleet Intelligence before

[00:20:44] and you know if she got kind of roped into you know doing the the Romulan piece mission with

[00:20:50] Picard and stuff like that so I definitely think it's a role that suits her and you know obviously

[00:20:57] we know how the season progresses and develops here but I think it was the perfect role a perfect

[00:21:03] transition from where she was in season two to season three I think so too I appreciate that

[00:21:09] it gives her the moment to you know after she purchases the the the drug of some kind it gives

[00:21:16] her the perfect moment to make a clear decision you know and to show that you know she's really

[00:21:21] still in control yeah for those people who who did buy into it and that's fine but it clearly

[00:21:28] declares that she has you know her wits about her she's clearly still on the wagon you know and

[00:21:33] she's she's doing some really really tough work for Starfleet with a handler that's not very cooperative

[00:21:40] yeah absolutely wonder what that I know who could that be it must be it must be Tiana yeah no

[00:21:49] did now when we were watching this first run did you did you think you knew who the handler was

[00:21:54] right off the bat did you have any guesses now I mean I felt it would be somebody in in the main cast

[00:22:01] and crew but I I couldn't guess who it was by any stretch I'm gonna fess up to thinking it was

[00:22:11] Janeway at first oh because it was a good way to sneak in a cameo from Janeway yeah I was obviously

[00:22:18] wrong yeah and I'm happy to be wrong I did wasn't thinking along the lines of Terry Metallis clearly

[00:22:25] and it was a much better decision on his part because mine wouldn't have been as good no absolutely

[00:22:31] I love who it who it turned out to I know you kind of alluded to the fact that you know

[00:22:36] Riker was your favorite character this season I love Warf this season I know we haven't seen him yet

[00:22:42] in this episode but he's my favorite this it's like Riker's like a close second to Warf I just

[00:22:50] think his deadpan comedy the season's phenomenal and I can't wait to start talking about him

[00:22:55] in some of the later off discovering truck episodes for sure one of the one of the things I'd like

[00:23:00] about this episode in this season overall is that we let our characters age gracefully you know

[00:23:08] this is something we did really well with the original series cast and in Star Trek's you know

[00:23:13] two and four and six um you know we we pointed out that yeah they're older but I mean

[00:23:21] when stuff is happening I mean they're gonna do what Starfleet officers do

[00:23:26] this this episode is telling us that that these people still have things to do you know their

[00:23:32] adventures are not over and I think that's an important lesson you know as I look at this episode

[00:23:38] you know as a guy in my 50s now um I'm definitely not as young as I was when I first started

[00:23:43] watching Star Trek but I feel like I still have stuff to do and so I can appreciate the roles

[00:23:48] that these characters are on yeah and and they're doing things of substance too you know like it's

[00:23:54] not yes it's not just stuff to keep busy and and you're absolutely right that how Terry Metallis has

[00:24:00] kind of bridged that gap of I don't want to say he's almost made season two not exist but it's

[00:24:06] like he kind of just he kind of almost skipped right over that and I like how he's kind of grounded

[00:24:11] the characters and you know kind of retirement but still with things to do in a purpose out there

[00:24:19] well it goes back to what I said at the top everything old is new again you know um but more

[00:24:24] importantly everybody has value to add and I think that's equally an important lesson here

[00:24:30] um you know whether it's Riker or Picard or or Raffi or Seven or whoever or even you know

[00:24:37] that the Ensen La Forge at the helm you know you get Sidney La Forge crash La Forge you know

[00:24:44] the the next generation if you will everybody has something to contribute and I think that that's

[00:24:49] one of the things that Star Trek has always tried to teach us and I think it's really on display here

[00:24:54] yeah no absolutely and you brought up Sidney La Forge too I love that that's kind of like a

[00:24:59] almost a callback to generations I know your feelings on generations but it's almost a callback

[00:25:05] to Sulu and his daughter you know his daughter being at the helm of the Enterprise B you know it's

[00:25:10] like it's just kind of you know this is what I love about what Terry Metallis is bringing he's

[00:25:16] bringing somebody who has a real in-depth knowledge of Star Trek lore and he's just he's pulling these

[00:25:23] elements that you know your hardcore fans are gonna just immediately gravitate to you know and I

[00:25:31] immediately saw that connection I was like oh man that's great you know another you know another

[00:25:37] your daughter from a you know a famous character absolutely let's talk about that portal weapon

[00:25:45] for a second because that could mess up somebody's whole day um what you know Raffi's investigating

[00:25:51] of these these weapons these experimental weapons stolen from Daestrim station um when you see that

[00:25:57] portal weapon you know kind of go off for the first time and sort of destroy that entire complex

[00:26:03] in District 7 I'm not gonna lie my jaw might have dropped a little bit yeah because it essentially

[00:26:09] took what amounts to or looks like something stadium sized and picks it back up and drops it

[00:26:16] yeah um that's pretty scary no it it definitely was definitely an interesting um

[00:26:23] interesting thing that we're gonna see kind of develop throughout the season here but yeah no I

[00:26:27] kind of uh gave me chills and kind of sent me back for a second when I saw that too like oh boy

[00:26:33] this is gonna be something uh paramount in this season for sure yeah paramount I see what you did

[00:26:40] there so and and kind of lastly um how do we feel about the neo constitution class titan a

[00:26:49] let's talk about that ship for a little bit because we talk about everything old is new again um

[00:26:54] let's talk about that ship design fantastic it's fantastic I love it I think it looks great um

[00:27:03] yeah don't I don't know what else to say about it I think it looks fantastic

[00:27:08] the tmp refit is probably my favorite starship ever I mean I I love you know a lot of ships but

[00:27:16] you know the tmp refit not the 1701a mind you I mean the 1701 for Star Trek the motion picture

[00:27:24] um holds a special place in my heart and to kind of see a little bit of a redesign on it see

[00:27:30] you know that thing is bulked up on impulse engines my word um that's a lot of impulse power

[00:27:36] that that ship is packing yeah but um it's it's big yeah that titan is a piece of machinery

[00:27:45] and I got to say it I was kind of surprised that they kind of went with that sort of new retro design

[00:27:51] but it really really works in this episode it really uh absolutely does and and you know I'm

[00:27:57] in the same boat as you that refit enterprise I mean like I know you know I've told you this in the

[00:28:03] past motion picture was the first thing of Star Trek I ever saw first yeah thing I ever saw and

[00:28:11] that scene of AndriDoc was like you know that made me feel like it was real like Star Trek was

[00:28:18] react to me and so seeing that in that huge space dock too was was phenomenal too like these massive

[00:28:26] ships are inside this massive space dock was was really cool to me just gave me scale and you know

[00:28:34] really put me in the moment but yeah it definitely harkened back to the motion picture there kind of

[00:28:39] see in that ship it was really kind of cool well you know the the nice thing about the

[00:28:44] the motion picture refit enterprise is that it it truly looks good lit from any angle

[00:28:50] you can look at it you know in every shot in the motion picture and it's gorgeous no matter

[00:28:55] you know whether they're looking from you know the the back of the Nesele back over the secondary

[00:29:00] hull in the saucer you know in that one shot from the aft view or straight on or you know dorsal

[00:29:05] view it doesn't matter the ship is gorgeous and the Titan A I have to say is just as beautiful

[00:29:11] and I think it it has the same compliment every angle you look at this ship from it is really

[00:29:18] beautiful to look at and I have to believe that that was part of the calculus yeah no absolutely

[00:29:23] yeah yeah I it makes me wish eagle moss were still around because I need me a a Titan A for sure

[00:29:32] yep no for sure if they ever released that as a model I might have to actually try model building

[00:29:39] um but that might be a disaster well GBS always we want it now it's gonna have a go if it goes

[00:29:48] as well as my enterprise debelt here I know right yeah so well as always we want to take a moment

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[00:31:27] gonna put you on the spot here because this isn't in the outline and I like to do this every now

[00:31:32] then I like to go call it crazy Ivan and just do something absolutely nuts if you had to pick one

[00:31:38] favorite element of this first episode of Picard's third season. What would it be for you?

[00:31:45] what stands out the most is a performance is it a thing is it a scene is it a ship what is it

[00:31:52] for me for me it's the opening scene the opening scene where we get introduced to Beverly Crusher

[00:31:59] all the nostalgic elements that get introduced you know we even see like her

[00:32:05] dedication plaques and her awards over the years and things that just bring us back to TNG

[00:32:13] the sounds the elements so those nostalgic factors in that opening scene are really my home run for

[00:32:20] this first episode. Well I can't agree I can't I mean I can't argue with that one bit I'm

[00:32:26] gonna pick one of my own I have to say it's gotta be Todd Stashwick's performance in those first

[00:32:30] scenes of Shaw around the dinner table. I like Malbec myself but I don't mind Shatsop Picard

[00:32:40] Todd just really delivers an amazing performance right off the bat and it really makes me want

[00:32:46] to know more about the character you know we know that there's something not quite right about Shaw

[00:32:53] and the way it gets uncovered really is just something to savor for the whole season.

[00:32:58] Absolutely. I love this character already as much as I think that he's a giant jerk in the first

[00:33:05] episode but it really makes me glad that they gave that character this introduction because it's

[00:33:13] just it's amazing to watch. Yeah no it just he puts you right on edge right in the beginning you're

[00:33:19] like okay is he bad or is he just you know a jerk what is he you know and what do we got here?

[00:33:27] Yeah yeah what do we got and that's I remember that's how I felt I felt seeing this like whoa

[00:33:33] this guy is something else but I immediately recognize man this is gonna be a strong character

[00:33:38] throughout the season like I could just tell he was gonna be a home run you know for sure.

[00:33:44] Well I gotta say Jamie season three is off to a solid start and we look forward to covering

[00:33:49] the rest of Picard's final season why don't you tell us what's coming up next time here on

[00:33:54] Discovering Track. On the next Discovering Track Picard aided by seven of nine in the crew of

[00:33:59] the USS Titan Picard makes a shocking discovery that will alter his life forever and puts him on a

[00:34:07] collision course with the most cunning enemy he's ever encountered meanwhile Rafi races to track

[00:34:14] a catastrophic weapon and collides with a familiar ally until then remember that you can describe

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[00:35:43] it for episode one of Discovering Track Picard season three Jamie thanks so much for joining me

[00:35:49] this week I have a feeling we'll have more the crew in with us as the season progresses but where can

[00:35:53] folks find you on social media. I can be found at JMR OG 84 on Twitter and Instagram. Awesome

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[00:36:13] That'll do it for this episode Discovering Track Picard we'll be back next time as we look at

[00:36:17] episode two disengage thanks so much for listening and until next time never stop discovering.

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