Spaceballs

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_05]: This is the Big Sci-Fi Podcast, the biggest sci-fi podcast in the galaxy, a proud part of the Trek Geeks Podcast Network.

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[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello and welcome back to The BIG Sci-Fi Podcast, where we talk all things sci-fi.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: On this show, we get nerdy, we get spicy, and sometimes we get emotionally moved by a film like Godzilla Minus One.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But today, we will not be getting emotionally moved, because we are talking about the cult classic Star Wars parody, Spaceballs.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: To help me analyze this incredibly serious and ponderous film are my usual co-hosts, Brian Donahue.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it's Brian from Ohio.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Steve Merkin.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's Steve from Los Angeles.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And Adina Monyona.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Calling in from Maryland.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Planet Earth.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So, first off, how is everyone doing this fine Wednesday evening?

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I just got back from a soccer game here in Northeast Ohio.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_05]: The local university, Malone University, played a team who's...

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Check out this name, guys.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_05]: California University of Pennsylvania.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_07]: I've heard of it.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Have you really?

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_05]: No, you haven't.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Have you?

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, because I think...

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, they're going to kill me.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's where my sister-in-law went.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, interesting.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_05]: What a coincidence.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, anyways, the real news is that their name, besides the university name, are the Vulcans.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And I took a snapshot of the scoreboard, sent it to my coach here.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you did.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that was cool.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was a lot of fun.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Malone's got a pretty decent soccer team, as I understand.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I was real impressed.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_05]: So, are your soccer levels out there?

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Soccer lovers out there?

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what soccer levels are.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Soccer levels.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Soccer lovers are people who love soccer.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Adina.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly right.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't mess up, Brian.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You're good.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You're good.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thank you.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_07]: How about you, Steve?

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_07]: That's okay.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_07]: So, I was going to say that I finished.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_07]: I've been catching up on a lot of reading lately to include a lot of old Star Trek novels.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_07]: And I finished one that was written in like 1991 by Michael Jan Friedman called Fortune Flight.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_07]: It's the next generation one.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_07]: And I liked it.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_07]: But the funny, interesting thing is it had a subplot related to baseball.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_07]: That's cool.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Nice.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Interesting.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And Michael Jan Friedman is going to be on the show soon, I hear.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_04]: He is.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Very good.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, spoiler alert.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So excited.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Of the future.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I am reading a book.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It is a biography of Rod Serling written by a gentleman whose name escapes me at this moment.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And the book's in the other room, so I really should remember it.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But he was at the first of our Trek Long Island conventions.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's cool.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's cool.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I bought the book there.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I watch it.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I go through periods of time where I never really watch episodes, but I'll YouTube them and I'll see clips.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, that's terrifying.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me read the Wikipedia on it.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Because there's just somewhere I'm just like, yeah, I'm not.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I want to watch the full 45 minutes.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But, yeah, brilliant work.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a plurific, I can't say the word.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Now you've caught it.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I've given it, I've passed it somehow virally through the Zoom screen to Steve.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: An exceptional writer who just kept writing and he was his own worst critic, which was very interesting about him.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, anyway, that's what I've been doing and I'm still working through the book, which is nearly 500 pages.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm at 184 right now.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: 84.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds good.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I did not read anything.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been watching a lot of like cheesy action movies with Arnold and I can never pronounce his last name.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Schwarzenegger.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody jump in.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Schwarzenegger.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Schwarzenegger.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Use the Schwartz.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: There we go.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Oy, oy, oy, oy.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And I watched Commando and I loved it because one thing about Commando that is interesting, regardless of how you feel about the movie, it's composed by James Horner or the music is composed by James Horner.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it really?

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And John Matrix, like main hero theme is crew is like a slightly louder version of Krug's theme from the search for Spock.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So I did a short about that.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just love how cheesy the movie is.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's fantastic.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I love how he says, Jenny.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: My daughter, Jenny, which of course is my daughter's name.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't call her Jenny.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And secondly, it was one of the very first films I watched and I'm going, he's killing dozens and dozens of people.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: What about their moms and dads?

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't they care about the fact that Arnold is slaughtering these people with saw blades and things like that?

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And where do these henchmen get hired?

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Which we've talked about in the past.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I feel bad for them.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I will say my last thought on this, and this is what I love about Hollywood movies.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you can essentially do really awful things if you have the My Family defense.

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: If somebody from your family is kidnapped or killed, you have Hollywood My Family immunity.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Which means, yeah, if you're in a movie, you can go ahead and do crazy stuff.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what movie does not have a lot of needless violence and people getting killed with chainsaws.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: What movie is that, Chris?

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That's Spaceballs.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody want to jump in with Spaceballs?

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, Spaceballs.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I love this movie so much.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I forgot they were from the planet Spaceball.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Overall thoughts.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: How do we feel about Spaceballs?

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Spaceballs.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I love it just as much now as I did when it came out in 1987.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the right answer.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: You want me to talk about Spaceballs?

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: What is with Spaceballs?

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: What is the whole point of this movie?

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't get it.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_02]: They talk about the Schwartz.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_02]: What's the Schwartz?

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I know that you know that I was once Mr. Schwartz from New York, which makes Chris laugh so much.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_02]: There he goes.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He's laughing like a crazy boy.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_02]: What's with you?

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_02]: What's with this laughing?

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't get it.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a good Mel Brooks impersonation.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I was sitting on the train today, okay?

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: On my commute.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I wonder if I should get Steve to do a Mel Brooks impression for the whole podcast.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought, you know, I'm not going to ask him to do that.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I can't.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to do it anyway.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_02]: But it is.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead, Adina.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_07]: A little confession time.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, so I saw this movie in the theater when it came out.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_07]: And then when it was on VHS, I saw it like a thousand times.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_07]: So I thought I remembered it well enough that because of just time, I wasn't actually going to rewatch it this week.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Because like, I know this movie.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I know this movie.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_07]: And then today at the last minute, I'm like, you know, I want to watch it.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_07]: So I watched it.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm so glad I did because there were so many details that I'd kind of forgotten.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel the same way.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, yeah, I mean, the opening scene with the letter scrolling through, like, if you can read this, you don't need glasses.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, and then the ship passing by slowly.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And it just goes on and on and on.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm laughing and giggling.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And my wife's in her office trying to work.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And she's going, what are you laughing at?

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_05]: All I hear is nothing on the screen.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, you don't understand.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_02]: The music or the melodic music in the background.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_02]: What got me was that someone built that model.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't CGI.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It was someone assembled something of that magnitude for this one shot for a joke.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder what happened to that model.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I bet it would be a collector's thing for sure.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_05]: But I love.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_05]: So this is post Star Wars, right?

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_05]: A decade later.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I love that they didn't try to match the special effects and make it look.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad they went a little cheesy with it.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Like they didn't go all out on the outer space stuff.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Like at the same level as the Star Wars films did.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I think it made it more charming and much more funny.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_07]: But I like that they really lent.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_07]: They leaned in.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Lent?

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Leant?

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Lent is.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Lent.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Trust me.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I trust me.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He wouldn't be talking about Lent in this movie at all.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_02]: No way.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm really glad that they chose to kind of not scene by scene, but really still do the

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_07]: same kind of plot-ish.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, where they kind of didn't match it in the way that like the Family Guy parody.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Like I don't know if you guys saw the Family Guy.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Family Guy parody is brilliant.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Amazing.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Which that is, you know, scene for scene they matched it.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_07]: So this wasn't an exact scene for scene, but conceptually there's a lot of matching there.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm so glad they did it because to me that is what makes a parody like awesome.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_07]: It's like you take the thing and then it's the same thing but twisted a little bit, you know.

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the plot beats are still very similar.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm with you.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I love this.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I used to watch this all the time at my friend's house and I was just, I love my best friend,

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: my best man, Kale Lang.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably not listening to this, but if he was, he would know exactly what I'm talking about

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: because it's one of those things where we watched this movie so many times as kids that

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_01]: we can just say a line.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can say something like, everybody got that.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And Kale instantly knows what I'm talking about.

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It is brilliant.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say, I started to watch like 10 minutes.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like, okay, babe, let's watch this.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: If you, this is my wife.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you watch this, like, let's take 10 minutes and by 10 minutes, you'll know if

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: you like it or you don't like it.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I was skeptical.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: She got to like maybe five minutes in.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, this is actually really funny.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We need to watch this on a weekend when I'm not tired because you're watching this late

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: at night.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think, so it's just like, wow, this stuff really does hold up.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and still are.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm with a Dina where I hadn't seen this in a long time, but I thought I'm pretty good,

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: but I threw it on.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, wow.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: There's jokes that I missed and just jokes that I forgot about.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, oh yeah, this little gag.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But when they were coming up, I'm like, oh yeah, I remember this.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_05]: You're right, Chris.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I laughed much more watching it this time than I did when I saw it as a kid.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Cause I just, I remember a few things.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And I, of course I saw the edited for TV version.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_05]: So some of the gags were removed.

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_05]: If you catch my drift.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And some of the language for sure, you know?

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So I just was laughing.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm laughing at the opening, you know, I just don't remember that being so hilarious.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Those opening rolling script of telling what's going on.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I loved the bumper stickers.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I pray for nobody.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_07]: So the parts that were edited, you know, and I think this is one of the reasons, like, I enjoyed it when I was, cause it came out, I was 13.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_07]: That summer is when I turned 13.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_07]: And so it, this was kind of one of those first movies where I was kind of like allowed that kind of humor where there's some light, you know, there's a lot of S words.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_07]: So light, light cursing, um, and some sexual innuendo, but light enough that like, I wasn't busting a gut today.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I was when I was 13, but I think today, just because at this point I'm kind of numb to that, you know, I still find it, it's always funny.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_07]: And I thought the movie is still great, but like, you know, 50 year old me doesn't get the same giggle as, you know, 13 year old me.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is a good point.

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's interesting because Elaine was asking me, I wonder what a Dean is going to feel like, because you have said that about other films we've reviewed from the seventies and from the eighties, where.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And the storyline was like, Oh, that's.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_05]: There's definitely some cringy moments, but I think they're, I think they are different than some of the other films we've had in the past that we've talked about and criticized one, one that stood out to me.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_07]: And I actually remember it standing out back then, which is when princess Vespa, she gets ahold of the machine gun.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_07]: And she's like, Oh my God, they shot my hair.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_07]: And she goes to town and the guys are like, you know, that was good shooting for a girl, you know, like for a girl.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_07]: But then Joan Rivers character dot matrix is like, no, that was good for Rambo.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_07]: So boom, the fact that they included that, cause that could have so easily her line could have so easily been chopped on the editing floor.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_07]: The fact that that stayed in is what made this to me work is the fact that like, you know, that was a massive mic drop moment.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_07]: And I remember loving that at the time I was like, yeah, you go girl.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_07]: And, and I still have that same feeling now.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_07]: And now appreciating how much they could have cut that out and they didn't.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Pretty important.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And I had forgotten totally about the Star Trek scene where they beam him up.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's brilliant.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's actually just in the next room, you know, nevermind.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll just walk there.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And he walks through one door and the room's right there.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_05]: It's hilarious.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that was in airplane two with William Shatner, where he's talking on a screen and then they open the door and he's right behind the screen.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the same, same kind of a bit.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen airplane two.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I ask, is it side note?

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Is airplane two worth watching?

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause I love airplane one or the first airplane.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That's great.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yes, I would say go ahead and watch it just to watch it.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's the, the first is like hilarious and great, great bits and all that.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And don't call me Shirley.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I would never do that.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And don't worry.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: We're all rooting for you.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: What I'll say about space ball is that I think it's not really its fault.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, I think some of the jokes didn't hit as hard for me only because there's been so many parodies and like so many jokes where you can trace it, not necessarily trace it back to space balls, but space balls are a really good version of it.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And then other shows or movies did that too.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So watching it now, it's like, Oh, but I've already seen that before, even though it wasn't their fault.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But still overall, you have found it hilarious characters.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Did any, like who, who was your favorite character in the film?

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's dark helmet.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the best.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And, and, and because it's Rick Moranis, the man is a, he's a, just a bundle of hilarious energy.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, just, just he, he, every scene he's in, it's funny, but his, the funniest scene for me that he's in is when he's in his room all by himself playing with his action figures.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And the guy walks in, there's nothing, nothing going on here.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That is funny.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: That was hilarious.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't see you playing with your action figures.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see you playing with your goals.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_07]: And, and Rick Moranis, he was like, he definitely was one of these guys that, you know, define like 80s movies for me, you know?

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, without a doubt.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Ghostbusters, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, Little Shop of Horrors.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Little Shop of Horrors, yes.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Which I love that version of Little Shop of Horrors so much.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_07]: That was, that was awesome.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, the humor in this.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Isn't that hilarious?

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_05]: The humor in this film is classic Mel Brooks, right?

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_05]: But it even goes to the costuming, like we've talked about, Darth Helmet.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And did you notice his tie?

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_05]: He's got a tie as a part of Darth Helmet.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, like, like someone had to think of that as a part of the costume.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_05]: There's humor, you know, of course, in their ridiculous helmets all around.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, just it's, it's ridiculous.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It's the Winnebago spaceship, you know, just absolutely fantastic.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Terrible.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I like Princess Vespa's headphones.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Again, there's another, there's, there's headphones.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Or headphones, yeah.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the subtle humor that is good in the movie.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_02]: The humor that hits you over the head with a bag of potatoes, to me, falls flat.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You know?

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and you talk about, you know, the, without using vulgarity, but the scene where,

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, turned a major a-hole.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like over and over.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And I get it.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It's your, yeah.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Who else is an a-hole?

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Then they all stand up, hey!

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know?

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: See, that's not subtle humor.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But when she takes off, when she takes off her ear buns and it's a, you know, her stereo

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_02]: headphones, that's funny.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's, that is the greatness of Mel Brooks.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Subtle humor.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And if anyone has ever watched Get Smart, he and Buck Henry created wonderful subtle humor

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: that was hilarious.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's where, you know, Mel Brooks really stood out, you know?

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if you know how long Mel Brooks was writing for television.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He goes back to the early 50s when he was on Sid Seed.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Sid Seed's, your show of shows, which had some other really remarkable writers like Woody

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Allen and Neil Simon and Mel.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Sid Seed's show did?

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't heard of that before.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, I really didn't know that.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is where he got it.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a story where Sid Seed's anger was so intense that he and Mel Brooks had an argument

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and he hung him out from the 18th floor of this building they were in in New York.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And Mel Brooks laughs at it because he just knows that, you know, it was, to him, it was funny.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's where he got his, he cut his teeth on that.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And if you really want to see a great movie about that, just see My Favorite Year.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That is, tells the whole story of that particular series.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's where Mel Brooks got his start.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And the man was a genius.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, you got to give credit to anybody who has the decency to write a song like Springtime

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: for Hitler.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, really.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That is amazing.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And then to follow up with one of a film that just pushes the level of taste, Blazing Saddles,

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_02]: which is hilarious.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I've seen that.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_07]: I saw that when I was a kid.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And then to take the perfect parody of Young Frankenstein.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That's where Mel Brooks was at his greatest, I really think.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a good bit.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I kind of want to go and see like, like kind of now do like a Mel Brooks marathon and go.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: You just watch those three films.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Just watch those three films.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_07]: That's probably because I watched those when I was a kid.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_07]: And now I'm thinking about like, while Spaceballs, I think I got all the jokes at the time.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Where now that I think about it, I probably didn't when I saw Blazing Saddles.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Now that I think about it.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And you could not have Blazing Saddles done today because of the level of racial humor that's in it,

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that he's making a point of from the, in the, in the film.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But still.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That's where his greatness was.

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_02]: His, but when he made movies like Silent Picture and History World Part One and Love Stinks,

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_02]: you could just see that his, he was going downhill in his level of comedy that wasn't true Mel Brooks,

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, and, and a lot of that, you know, and I see that in this film as well.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's, to me, it's not his, it's not really one of his best, but it's amongst the later ones better than the others.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say that for a fact.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_07]: So what's, um, a couple of years ago, I was watching a show.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_07]: It was, it was on Netflix.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I think, uh, Jerry Seinfeld was doing this, um, thing called, uh, coffee and conversation and car.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Coffee and coffee.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_07]: And he did get to visit Mel Brooks.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_07]: So I don't think Mel came out with him.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I think he just visited in his home.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think he was having lunch with him and I liked that.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a good conversation.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, because Mel Brooks is still, he's still alive.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_07]: He's like, Oh yes.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He's no, he's, I, he's going to outlive us all probably, but, uh, yeah.

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Speak for yourself, Steve.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I plan to live forever.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Which move right now?

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Which move?

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have your Android body sitting in the closet just waiting to take your brain to be put inside of it?

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: My friend is.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_05]: No, but I did start.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I did start doing preparation for my favorite Star Trek next generation episodes,

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_05]: which is rumored to be a forthcoming episode here on the big sci-fi podcast.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And I realized there's an episode I'm going to surprise you guys with,

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I think as one of my top 10 favorite episodes that I just rewatched this week.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_05]: So anyways, speaking of Android bodies.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Android bodies.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Enough with the Android bodies.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_05]: So, uh, Chris, what's that?

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_05]: What, what do you want to know from us about this phone?

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So I, so we were talking about the, the a-hole joke.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we can talk about the best joke first.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: What did you all think?

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The best joke, like the thing that when you think about space balls, that's the thing,

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: that's the joke you think of.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And it makes you laugh every time you think about it.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, my honey.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello, my darling.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello, my ragtime girl.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Da-dum-ba-dum-ba.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The, there is where his parody was at the best in the film where he did it.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And to get John Hurt to reprise his character and to look at the thing going, oh no, not again.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: That is great stuff.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_05]: There is a seat.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_05]: There is a scene that I think perhaps you folks did not catch that I found hysterical,

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_05]: but it's only because this other film that I'm about to mention is one of my all-time favorites.

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And I would have to put it in my top 10 or 20 films of all time.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_05]: The first time they're all traveling through the desert together.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_05]: The music that's being played, okay, is the same music from Lawrence of Arabia.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Ah, okay.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I, I did not catch that as a kid.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I had seen the movie as a teenager.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I was fascinated with Lawrence of Arabia, watched it about 20 times through my teen years.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was, I was like, oh my gosh, they're, they're pulling from everything.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not just sci-fi.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Like they're really pulling from everything.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And that was so amazing because the music was so close to the Lawrence of Arabia theme.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It was pretty funny.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_05]: So I liked that one, but I also liked the pick through the sand and our friend, our friend of the podcast now too.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if I can pick.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_07]: There's just so many.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, like the, when I think about the sand scene, I think about the dink dinks.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: That's funny.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: They're so cute.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That was really cute.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like, but like anytime you mentioned like a concept of a scene, then like I'll think of something, but like one for the whole movie.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I can't.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like Mr. Coffee and Mr. Radar too.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_05]: That was cute.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why, but there's something about like just the, I always have coffee while I watch Radar.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody knows that.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I just love that.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's something I just quote all the time.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I always will have my coffee when I do this.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's brilliant.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's such a subtle joke.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like it's in your face, but it's not as in your face, but I think it just works.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_07]: But his face when he's doing that, when he's kind of like, you know, looking like, you know, it's, you know, Rick Moranis does insecure really well.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Really well.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to know two jokes that made it into reality from that film?

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: What was the speed they went?

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Ludicrous speed.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Ludicrous speed.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_02]: When, when the, when the Tesla model S was offered in its high performance version, there was a button on the dashboard that you pushed to engage.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Ludicrous speed.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not joking.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Deliberately from the movie.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Like the deliberate homage.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: When he developed, when they developed and came out with their 1000 horsepower type S model, it was called the plaid.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nice.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's, that's where they, they realized this is, we can apply these jokes to reality and they work really well on those particular cars.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: They've gone plaid.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I think my favorite, and this is a reoccurring one, but it's the product placement.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's just so accurate and it's so brilliant.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Like space balls, the toilet paper, space balls, the t-shirt, space balls, the flamethrower.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It's love this one.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's so good.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_07]: So what's really interesting about that is if you, I was reading just before we got on today, I was reading a little bit on the Wikipedia page and they talk about the product stuff and how Mel Brooks and getting permission from George Lucas to do the parody.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, Lucas was like, I just don't want you to make any action figures because they're just going to look too much like his action figures.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_07]: And Mel Brooks was like, sure.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I'll, I'll, you know, he was happy to just get permission to do it.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_07]: He was perfectly happy.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_07]: But then they over embellished this whole concept of the product placement, like in the, the show.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_07]: And this is, I'm just getting this from Wikipedia, but like, I didn't know that before.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's, it's kind of interesting, uh, that whole interaction between Mel Brooks and George Lucas in real life to kind of come and make, make this happen.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_07]: And also it says that again, the, there's a link saying Lucas later sent Brooks a note saying how much he loved this movie, which is cool.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting thing that you mentioned about that.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: That is cool.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: When, when, um, Lucas negotiated the deal with 20th Century Fox to make the first Star Wars film, he said, I get the merchandise.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And they went, sure, because nobody sold merchandise for movies and TV shows like that.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's where he made all his money.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, really that joke is so pointed directly at the relationship that Lucas had with 20th Century, because what's the secret?

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Merchandising.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's great.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_02]: True.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Or at least at some point it was true.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It really was.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: In this film, it did point it out.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So ridiculousness.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: How did you all feel about the, uh, them watching the movie to figure out where they were?

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Brilliant.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That was great.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it every time.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And especially when he opens up the box and there's all the Mel Brooks VHS tapes.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Of all his other prior films.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm just going to say, I just thought of another poke or nod they gave.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I think they gave a nod to Jerry Anderson near the beginning of the film with the Mercedes vehicle with, with the Joan Rivers.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, the platform lifts up like this, like they did in Thunderbirds.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_05]: That vehicle looked very, to me, very Thunderbird-ish.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's cool.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And I wonder if that was a nod to.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_05]: To the way Thunderbird 2 launches.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I never thought about that.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_05]: It's interesting.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I thought it was very weird how they did that instead of just having it take off, you know?

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_05]: So.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Going back to the whole, they're watching the video and they catch up to now.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_07]: When was that?

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_07]: That was then.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Now.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, to me, that was a whole take on like the who's on first.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_07]: I love, I love that.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, classic.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_02]: $25 joke that they bought.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Abbott and Costello.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_05]: That's, and it's to this day, one of the greatest.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: One of the greatest.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's a true story.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a, there was a, there was a Taiwanese player for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And when he got his first hit, Vince Scully said, now I can finally truly say who's on first.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Because his last name was who.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And that was great.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, now, now let's get a little negative.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the whole joke.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Negative.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: What were some of the other jokes that didn't, or don't hold up, or like, that you're like,

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: you know what, that still doesn't, doesn't work in this movie.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_05]: There is one, and again, I, you know, I, I think we just have to take it with a grain.

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_05]: We don't need to get overworked up about this by any means, you know?

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Mel Brooks has stuff throughout all of his films.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, we would boycott every film almost probably.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_05]: There was offensive things in it, right?

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_05]: There was, there was a moment when John Candy's character, the half dog, half man,

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_05]: barf, looks into the camera and he makes, it was kind of a Jewish, a Jewish joke, right?

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's the one where I'm, and I can't remember the word they used.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Drew.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And they used Drew.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He goes, he goes, she's a Drew.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she's a Jewish princess.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And he looks and says, funny.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't look Jewish.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm like, like, like, I'm like, okay.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, that one doesn't, as, as a Jew.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: In the grand scheme of things, it's not bad, but, you know.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: In the 70s, Saturday Night Live had a parody commercial for Jewish jeans.

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And they go, are they Jewish?

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Funny, they don't look it.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_02]: They use the same joke in Saturday Night Live.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_07]: And, and I remember, again, so I was 13 when I watched this the first, for first time.

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_07]: And I remember being aware of that joke and, you know, what it meant, especially growing up.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_07]: So, again, I'm half Jewish, but growing up on Long Island, the concept of a, of a Jewish princess was something I was well aware of.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Kind of culturally.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And I didn't find that joke particularly funny, but I got it.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, I got it.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_07]: And that one doesn't, so today I'm like, eh, you know, whatever.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_07]: But what bothered me still a little bit more, but again, it's still like the cringy sign of the times, is still kind of like the way they're objectifying the waitress in, like, the final scene.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Or even the nurse.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, that stuff is kind of like, I don't know.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_07]: And again, and I was aware of it at the time, but then you have those things, like with Dot Matrix saying, hey, she, she killed it, you know, mic drop.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_07]: So, I don't know.

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, to me, some of that stuff was just kind of like there.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't, doesn't hold up super well, but it also doesn't bother me, I guess.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_07]: In something new, it would bother me.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Because I'm like, come on, we're past this.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_07]: But I can, I guess I can deal with it in old stuff.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, interesting.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You, you asked the question, which was our least favorite character?

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And that definitely, to me, is barf.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It's, I like John Candy, but it was just, it was just, it was just too much in your face and too much.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: They just, it just didn't work.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It really, it didn't work.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I know they were trying to do a parody of Chewbacca.

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Get it, get it, get it.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: But.

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it was weird.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just weird.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And he didn't have, I mean, you could have taken that character out.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Of the film, I think.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And it would have been just as funny.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_05]: The, the character I absolutely hated was Pizza the Hut.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, God.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm literally watching that gagging as I'm eating my lunch.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so hard because it's such a brilliant joke.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But like they executed it.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The costume is so good that it's hard to watch.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I know when he comes on, I'm going to have to be like, Dill, you got to look away.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're not going to enjoy this scene.

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially when the guy takes a bite out of it.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, yeah, really?

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm this delicious.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't know.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, weird.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I just.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, at least he didn't survive the film.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_07]: So if there is a sequel, in theory.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: No, remember he dies at the end by, he's eaten himself or something like that.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Pizza, yeah.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But for me, what saves it is like the name Pizza the Hut.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just, I will never get tired of characters whenever they see other characters going so and so and so and so.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So when they go Pizza the Hut, I just love that.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's sort of, it's such a weird thing where the concept is hilarious.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_01]: The name is perfect.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But they just, they executed it too well to make it like that.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It was disgusting and hard to, hard to watch.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_05]: That was so gross.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't been grossed out in a film that in a long time.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if they had to pay Pizza Hut some, something to get that joke put through.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_05]: The dog food, the first John Candy scene too, right there.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And I forget the name of the brand, but, but that was a real dog food.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_05]: So you would think they have to pay.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_02]: The dog bite, the, the, the treats he was eating was from a, uh, one dog.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I forget.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Milk bone.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Dog showers.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Milk bone.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Milk bone.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It was an actual milk bone box.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Product place.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: They must have to.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_01]: The dog food joke when he's like always when I'm eating.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So he puts down his food and then gets more food.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, there's something about that.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so dumb, but I could see, I always loved barf and I still enjoy barf, but I can

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_01]: see what you mean that he doesn't really add to the plot.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And if he was taken out of the movie, the plot was so progress.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: The way it did.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_07]: That's true for a lot of like sidekick, you know, the sidekick character.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's almost always true.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_07]: But you, you kind of need the sidekick character because you need that person to be like

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_07]: bounce off of.

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_07]: So you need, you need someone there.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I think, I think one case where the sidekick character, it was just different.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Now this is a different genre, but Jerry Lewis was not as funny without now.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_05]: He made some brilliant films and had some moments in film and certainly a legacy on television

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_05]: with this telethon that is so admirable and amazing.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but without Dean Martin bringing the class into that act, his goofiness was just, uh, with

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_05]: some few exceptions in his film career, just goofy.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Dean Martin brought, you know, everything there.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So, but that's a weird, that's a weird example though.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not a weird example.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a very good example.

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's true with a lot of like, especially a lot of comedies where, you know,

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_01]: you get someone who's hilarious and they're crazy, but they need somebody else to really

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: work off of them.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I always think of Joey and I don't know if it was maybe the writing that didn't work

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_01]: with the, with his spinoff, but it's like, for me not having the other characters there

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_01]: or at least having Chandler to bounce off of him.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So I, I see what you're, you mean though.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you can be great, but you sometimes still need that other person to, uh, remember

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_02]: you mentioned about who's on first, what's on second Abbott and Costello, but Abbott and

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Lou Costello.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_02]: One was the straight man, the other one, the goofy guy and it worked because you need

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_02]: You need the yin and yang and good humor.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that's what they were trying to do because I feel like out of, out of the characters,

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: you could say that maybe a Lone Star is the straight man, even though he also has jokes.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I don't necessarily think it's that it's a straight man comedy thing in that pairing,

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_07]: but I just still think you need a sidekick because if you, you know, if you come up with

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_07]: on it, especially to have jokes, like look at this movie, there's, there's no scene where

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_07]: there's like a single person really, you need someone else there.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_07]: So those scenes where you have Lone Star, imagine it.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_07]: So take, take Bartholomew, his full name, take, take Bartholomew out and he's just there

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_07]: alone.

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_07]: None of that work.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Like nothing works.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_07]: You need, you need someone else.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_07]: So it happens to be that character.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_07]: It's not the greatest character.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I like, I thought he was, it was kind of fun.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_07]: He's not, I don't know who I'd say was the worst one, but, but I feel like you still,

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_07]: you do need, you know, if you lifted him out, you had to put someone, you would have to put

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_07]: someone else in, I guess is my point.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't know.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard for me to say because even like dot matrix, who I don't think was the funniest,

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_01]: she still adds to the plot and like Joan Rivers is just, you know, it's her.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's always a good time, but yeah, I can't think, I can't think of anyone that I'm like,

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, I really wish they weren't in the movie.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause they all were.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I think.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we can't take them out.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: They're there forever.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So yes, we can only feel different about it.

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And again, the, Oh, the, and the other one that was just hilarious and it was a pleasure

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_02]: to see him was the radar operator.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Actor's name.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I wrote it down here.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_02]: What's the actor's name?

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Winslow.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_02]: That's who did the voice of that.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember watching him on, you know, Johnny Carson, other shows and doing all those voices,

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_02]: those sound effects.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Great guy.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Great guy.

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_02]: That was a pleasure to see him in that film.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I remember from what it was like the police Academy movies.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Was he in those?

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: That's where he was as well.

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So I remember watching police Academy.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it is.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the guy from space balls.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause that's what I know him from.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I just know him as the radar guy, but just so great.

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And like, I just love Rick or dark helmet, not knowing that it's him doing the thing.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he's still talking.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's talking through, uh, through the phone.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so great.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_07]: See, it's, it's really.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_07]: That's subtle humor.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_07]: That's good stuff.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Having that different experience, like not having seen them when they came out, I feel

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_07]: like it's interesting.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_07]: So you had Chris kind of like that experience of you saw space balls before you saw police

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_07]: academy.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Where like I saw police academy before I saw space balls because that was kind of like

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_07]: the order they came out.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_07]: And it's interesting to me that it's then it's a completely different experience.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_07]: If you don't watch it in the order that it comes out, it is a completely different experience.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And then even the, the planet of the apes thing, it's like, I was aware of it, aware

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_01]: of those movies and aware of that scene.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But for me, it's one of those things where because I saw space balls so many times as

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: a kid, the planet of the apes thing is sort of ruined because in my head, I'm still thinking

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: like, oh, it's like, it's like the scene from space balls, which is not what you're

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: supposed to say.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So I still think about that.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, it makes it funnier even when it's meant to be a really tragic scene.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_07]: It's the scene from the Simpsons.

[00:41:32] Right.

[00:41:32] Right.

[00:41:33] Exactly.

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I would have, I don't know.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I would, it may be the joke even would have gone funnier if it was, they actually got

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Charlton Heston to ride up on the horse.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And be in that scene.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they tried.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_07]: I like that they had some of the Simians do it because I think that was cool because

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_07]: then they were just like, ew, humans, there goes the planet.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought that was, I think that was a good joke.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_05]: That was brilliant.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Mel Brooks is brilliant at.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_05]: That's one liners that you don't see coming.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, just, just, they come so smooth and the actors oftentimes in his films deliver them

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_05]: just right.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_05]: And they catch you off guard.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Like that's his best kind of humor, the kind of humor that catches you off guard.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, a lot of humor, you can laugh hysterically and you still see it coming, but

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_05]: you still laugh.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Mel Brooks is just brilliant at the, what you don't see coming in the next line.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And you see that in young Frankenstein where he goes, where did you get that brain from?

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Abby, somebody, Abby, who Abby normal.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_02]: We put an abnormal brain in a six-fin.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: That is where he's at his best.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That's great stuff.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And because you don't, you, you, you see the joke coming because he shows the brain.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He points at it and you see the joke coming and it still hits you.

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's still funny.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what's so great about it.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That's where Mel Brooks was always at his very, very best.

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think like the one-liners, all of it.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I also really liked his character and the reoccurring gig of, I don't remember the commander's

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_01]: name, but like the commander constantly calling him and just appearing on screen and freaking

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: him out.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, great.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So great.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Any final thoughts about Spaceballs, the movie?

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, first, before we have some final thoughts, do we feel confident that the planned sequel

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_07]: is going to actually happen?

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_07]: And do we think that's a good idea?

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Is there still a sequel?

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Again, I'm going by what I'm reading on Wikipedia, but I also remember hearing about it on social

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_07]: media posts in the last year or two.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_07]: But in theory, there is possibly going to be a sequel.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_07]: So in June, 2024, it was announced that a sequel is in the early stages of development.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm kind of like...

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: With Mel Brooks as a part of it or?

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he might be an executive producer just to get the rights to do it.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Might be now the Gene Roddenberry, just the creative consultant of the film.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Interesting.

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I kind of...

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, while it's kind of cool to think about that, I'm also like, sometimes there are movies

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_07]: that it's okay if there's no sequel.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_05]: They're remaking everything these days.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, this is not a remake.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_07]: This is a sequel.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_07]: This is a different thing.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_07]: It's different.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_05]: They're going off of an already established premise.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But here's the thing.

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: This movie was 10 years after A New Hope came out.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Now we're what?

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Almost 40?

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_02]: We're 40 plus years?

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Almost 50 years from when it first came out?

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Does it hold up?

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you still...

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yes.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Granted, Young Frankenstein came out in the 70s and the original Frankenstein movies

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: came out in the 1930s.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_02]: That's...

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I understand that.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what do they get in mind?

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I think you can still parody Star Wars, especially if they did...

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_07]: This one was obviously kind of a parody of A New Hope.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_07]: You could then parody, like, continue.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_07]: The Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, you could still do that.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_07]: I think they could.

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I think the writing...

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_07]: We'll get it.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_07]: If there's a different writer, different writers, they need to write for the time.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_07]: So a lot of the jokes, while we can still watch it knowing it was written back in the

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_07]: 80s, you can't write that script today.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_07]: So the jokes are going to have to be different.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_07]: So I think you could.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_07]: But I also think, like, this is a perfect movie.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_07]: You don't need more.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_01]: My thing is, like, one, I think I agree that this is something that we don't need.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they don't...

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_01]: For me, it is almost a perfect movie.

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they don't need to touch it again.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also wonder, like, what would you do about Rick Moranis?

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's retired from acting.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like if you don't have Dark Helmet, then...

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_07]: He's not entirely retired.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_07]: He was temporarily retired, but he's been active in the last few years.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He's been active in the last few years and he didn't show up in Ghostbusters?

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That's outrageous.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And there's a lot of other Star Wars characters they can make fun of, too, you know?

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's true.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_05]: It just depends on how they want to go, where they want to go with it, and which part of the

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_05]: universe they want to live in.

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, they could go to, like, the, you know, episode 7, 8, 9 and make fun of that.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So you have the Wikipedia page.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Was there ever anything about, like, it being called Spaceballs 3, what happened to Spaceballs 2?

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So that is...

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so I'm reading from Wikipedia.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Moranis claimed in a 2013 interview that he and Brooks had discussed a potential sequel

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_07]: with Moranis pitching the title Spaceballs 3, The Search for Spaceballs 2.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_07]: But they were unable to do it.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_07]: In February 2015, Brooks said he would like to make a sequel to be released after the next Star Wars film,

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_07]: so at that time, and hoped that Moranis would reprise his role.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_07]: So, yeah, and the proposal may be called Spaceballs 2, The Search for More Money.

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_02]: If they do it, they don't have to write any new lines for Jar Jar Binks, because he's hilarious

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_02]: to begin with.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So I just thought of my favorite joke of the film.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_05]: The very first...

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_05]: It's the very...

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Or the second thing we see on screen.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Chapter 11.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Dylan was wondering about that.

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Hysterical.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, what, did we miss something?

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, no, it's because of episode 4.

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So I've got some problems with you people.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-oh.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_05]: With the things you said.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So, okay.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a perfect film?

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So...

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I need more explanation, I think.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_07]: It might be because of, I think, some aspects of the nostalgia in it.

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, when this came...

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so when this came out, there hadn't been a parody movie like this.

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Right, sure.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_07]: There had been, yes, lots of Mel Brooks films, lots of comedy films, but specifically a sci-fi

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_07]: parody, like a parody of sci-fi.

[00:48:42] Mm-hmm.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, that was unusual.

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_07]: But again, I completely, utterly, utterly loved it and watched it a thousand times.

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_07]: And so to me, that's like...

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Cool, cool.

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_07]: That's...

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_07]: If I'm watching it a lot, there's something very awesome about it.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I see it's hard because there's some movies that I watch all the time that I love that

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I know are not perfect movies or even necessarily good ones.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, Motion Picture for me, that's one I will...

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That I love and will love to the day that I die.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though I can recognize it's not necessarily a good movie.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But for me, Spaceballs is like...

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It did what it was trying to do and it did really well.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't trying to be anything other than just a really funny parody of Star Wars.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think...

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't actually touched on the music, which I forgot to mention.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But like, the music is executed well and it feels like...

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I hate Star Wars, like, that you get what it's trying to do.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The costumes are the same way.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The jokes, everything.

[00:49:39] Mm-hmm.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Where I would...

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, is this an Academy Award winning movie?

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely not.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And I will say...

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_01]: No movie's perfect, but I think it does...

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so good at what it's trying to do that it feels like...

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's it.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I like how Chris put it.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_07]: It achieved...

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_07]: This movie achieved its goals.

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, like, it did what it was supposed to do.

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_07]: It didn't set out to be like, oh my God, we're gonna be the best movie ever.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_07]: But it set out to be a really awesome Star Wars parody.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_07]: And yes, it is.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And I appreciate your explanation.

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_05]: That helps me.

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Because even...

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you guys should know, when I say perfect, I don't mean Academy Award nominations or...

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I just like...

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_05]: But you explained it well.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Because there are films, Chris, like, I love the motion picture too.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll watch that again if it's on or someone else is watching it.

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And I will enjoy it.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Same thing for Star Trek freaking 5.

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I happen to think that film is fun.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not a good film, but it's got a lot of good stuff in it.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And so we've talked about that throughout the course of our now seven seasons of the big sci-fi podcast.

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Part of the Trek Geeks podcast network.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, so that helps me.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess I just am like...

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_05]: As I was watching it again, I'm going, well, this is rougher than I remembered it to.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_05]: The pacing was actually slower than I remembered it to.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's for me is why I...

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_05]: The pacing of the film is a little slow for me.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Now, but I don't have the nostalgia associated with it like you, Adina, where you've watched it so many times.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I've watched it twice.

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But I will acknowledge this.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I will say this to kind of...

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_05]: As a different way of saying what I just kind of argued against.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think this is probably one of the top two greatest parody films of all time.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_05]: The ultimate being, in my opinion, Galaxy Quest.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And then Spaceballs.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you, Mr. and Brian.

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I would say Spaceballs is the second greatest parody film.

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but this came first.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_07]: The thing is, I think it's important that this came first.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, absolutely, yeah.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But Galaxy...

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, go ahead.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, sorry.

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Another way to explain why I said perfect is, especially re-watching it today, there is not a thing I would change about it.

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, there's nothing I would change.

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I wouldn't change a thing.

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_07]: And that, to me, is what sometimes I think I might mean when I think of a film as perfect, is like, would I do anything to it if I had control at this point?

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Would I change anything?

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_07]: No.

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_07]: And I would absolutely leave it exactly as it is.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, Kristen?

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I would change.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what would you change?

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I would make Pizza Hut's costume, just pure plastic.

[00:52:35] A little less gross.

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And nothing, like, nothing falling or moving.

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No oozing.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: No cheese.

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't like the oozing.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I get it.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't like the oozing.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_07]: You have some New York pizza.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_07]: New York pizza can be very greasy.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_07]: There are New York pizzas that can be very greasy.

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Delicious.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But Jabba the Hutt, or Jabba Pizza Hut, doesn't need to be New York pizza.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Remember, Disney owns that.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Jabba the cup of coffee.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we don't want to get Disney mad at this.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_05]: They could have gone that way.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_05]: They could have gone coffee.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Why didn't they go coffee?

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Because they already got a coffee show.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to say I respect.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to say I respect.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to get back to the perfect comment.

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I totally love that you guys love this film and think it's perfect.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_05]: That's fine.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_05]: That's cool.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also, like Dean, I'm also very biased because I didn't see this when it came out, obviously.

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But this was, I go to my friend's house and I felt like it was Spaceballs, Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters 2,

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_01]: that were just constantly in rotation.

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, all right, we're here.

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We're hanging out.

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's put Spaceballs on and we'll watch Spaceballs for the 20th time.

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So it just holds a special place to me, too.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And the Spaceballs song was right out of Ghostbusters.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Right out of the 1980s.

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I completely forgot about it.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, this is actually a legit song.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, they actually went to the effort to make an 80s.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, it would be 80s because that's when it came out.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But they made a legitimate song about Spaceballs, which was pretty cool.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I hadn't remembered until I was on the bus listening to it.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, wow, this is pretty good.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But, Brian, I totally agree with you.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was going to say the same thing, that they have done a better parody science fiction film.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is Galaxy Quest.

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And the thing about Galaxy Quest, because it is very respectful of the original source material,

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_02]: even though that source material is never really talked about.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's respect, I say, about that movie.

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_07]: But I think this was the same thing here.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, there is, you know, I think especially knowing that Mel Brooks went after Lucas to get permission.

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_07]: You don't do that when you respect the property.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, like, if you respect the property, that's what you do.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_07]: That is the right thing to do.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_07]: And so I think this was also done with full love and respect for the original, you know, for Star Wars.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_07]: These people are fans of Star Wars.

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, no way about it, you know.

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Similar to, like, you can, yeah.

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_07]: In that similar concept.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But I do.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't feel like there was ever any point where it's like, okay, they're just disrespecting Star Wars.

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It felt like, no, the people making this love Star Wars.

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They're just having a good time.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, the same way that the Family Guy things do, where they're all big Star Wars fans to the point where their parodies are, like, scene for scene, shot for shot, perfect.

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, copies of the originals.

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Only with jokes.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And different dialogue.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But still, also done out of love.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Very good.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, before we wrap up, what would we, let's go around and do our usual ratings.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_02]: The Brian Donahue five-star rating.

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, by the way, when you talk about perfect films, I think Brian did mention one in a prior broadcast, a certain Godzilla film he gave fives to, as well did I did.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_02]: There is a perfect film.

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, go ahead.

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're muted.

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_05]: So, I'll go first.

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I forgot I was muted there for a second.

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_05]: So, on a scale, a Brian Donahue scale of one to five, right?

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Is this what we're talking about?

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Are we talking about some weird, okay.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_05]: No, no.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: This is one that you spent years developing in a laboratory.

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Getting, getting.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I went.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_02]: How hard you worked on this on your one hand.

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how hard.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_05]: My whole goal in life is if I can figure it out on one hand, I'm good.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So, anyways.

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Not really, folks.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Just kidding.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_05]: So, out of a scale of one to five, having only seen this movie twice and watching it actually just today for the second time.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And with due respect to the words used before on this podcast, like perfect and other stuff, this film is hilarious.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_05]: It's got a lot going for it.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I am giving it, I love you guys, a 2.5.

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_01]: A 2.5?

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You sounded way more positive than a 2.5.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_05]: It's hysterical.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_05]: It's hysterical.

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_05]: But if I'm being really honest, I thought I found it slow.

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I laughed all the way through it, but it was slow.

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And I just, I, it just, I just.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_07]: So, laughing all the way through earns a 2.5.

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Just a.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_07]: In a comedy.

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm noting it.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a bunch of other reasons why I don't think.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I may never watch this film again.

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Remember guys, remember guys, I did say with all due respect to how you love this film.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_05]: You did say with all due respect.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to have your opinion.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like, I feel like we're not allowed to have two rating systems.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_05]: No, no.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a good one.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm very good to try.

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's the same rating system, but like how we, like why we give something a 5.

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Or something, you know.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I think, I think if we're just talking laughs, the 5, yeah, absolutely.

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_05]: But there's a lot of other stuff about the film that I've found.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Brian.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_05]: This kind of.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Brian, how dare you?

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_05]: How dare you?

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in tears.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm embarrassed.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like.

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_02]: How dare you agree with me on this film?

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, really?

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And the only, the reason why is, and I've said it before, you look at the bulk of his

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_02]: work and what he did prior to this.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles, the producers, Get Smart.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're labeling against his quality of his prior work, this doesn't match up.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It has that.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That's it there again.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_02]: There are funny bits in it, but there are a lot of really like, uh, really, really jokes.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So what can I tell you?

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_02]: This is my opinion.

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_02]: This is what yoga.

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_02]: This is what yogurt says is true.

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_02]: What can I say?

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's what I say.

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I leave it to you.

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Adina, Chris, tell us the truth.

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think of this film?

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So question, did he just cop out on a rating or are you saying, are you saying at 2.5?

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I agree with you.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, exactly.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I agree with you.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_07]: He actually didn't say 2.5.

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_07]: He just said he agreed with you.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_07]: I think he's scared to actually say it himself.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't blame him.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_05]: He just watched me go through the battering ram of Adina and Chris.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, come on.

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to say it now.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_07]: We might be staring at you heavily, but we didn't say anything.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I will say without a doubt.

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_01]: 2.5.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_01]: What's this Schwartz?

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Schwartz from New York thing.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_01]: What's his rating of the film?

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Schwartz from New York.

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I tell you, he would call and say, what is with this jokes?

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't get it.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when I was in the Catskill, the mountains doing humor and doing potty, doing crotch humor.

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I never went to the level that this film was.

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_02]: What can I tell you?

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Finish this.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I did this to myself again.

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Brilliant.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Brilliant.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But I, I, but see, I'll say this about your rating, Steve, is I got that impression that

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: you enjoyed it, but didn't love it.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not surprised.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say for me, it's probably a five out of five.

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's just one that I love and I'm very cool.

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen it in a long time, but it still holds up and I'm excited to see it again.

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's like certain states where I'm like, oh, I just can't, I'm probably just going to watch,

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: still watch the scene instead of watching the scene because it's going to be fun.

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think what you said, I'm sorry, Dean, let me jump in real quick, please.

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_05]: If I think the reason why this film does hold up is because Star Wars holds up.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And people are still watching A New Hope and introducing new people to it.

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And then as those people hear about this film, they're watching it laughing hysterically going,

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_05]: yup, yup, yup.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It's the same reason why Galaxy Quest holds up and is going to hold up, even though it was made

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_05]: significantly later than this film, 20-ish years maybe.

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that it still holds up because Star Trek still holds up and people are still watching

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Star Trek and therefore they're going to watch Galaxy Quest.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think that's a real, like I admire the film for that.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I think for what that is, it's really well.

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, I will maintain it does what it wants to do exceptionally well.

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not trying to be anything more than just a really funny Star Wars parody.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it succeeds on that.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so five out of five for me.

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_07]: And I guess, you know, no surprise, I'm with Chris on this for similar reasons, partly because

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_07]: I usually use my five for will I watch this movie again or would I enjoy watching this movie again?

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_07]: And of course, yeah.

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_07]: In fact, I think, you know, I need my older son to watch it.

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_07]: But I like what you were just saying, Brian.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_07]: It's like part of it is the source material holds up.

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_07]: If the source material didn't hold up, then this might be a different, you know,

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_07]: it might be a completely different story.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_07]: But because the source material does hold up because, right, my kid can watch Star Wars

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_07]: and then he can go watch this.

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Now, my younger one can't watch this yet.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_07]: But again, my older is 14.

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I was just I was a month.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_07]: This came out a month before I turned 13.

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_07]: And I know I saw it in the theater at least once, possibly even more than once.

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_07]: So, yeah.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Five.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_07]: It's easily a five.

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So interesting.

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's cool.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I also just love these episodes because I feel like.

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe maybe this is more divisive than we usually are, because I feel like a lot of

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: times we're in agreement.

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So I like that this is divisive, but not like in an angry way, but just like, you know,

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_05]: there's a lot of split down the middle.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_07]: That's, I think, a first.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Like I kind of like a true split down the middle where you sometimes it's like we're

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_07]: kind of off kilter or one of us is out of bed with the others.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_07]: This is, I think, the first time we've been truly split.

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, yeah, I know.

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: There's been times where I've said four of, you know, three out of four doctors recommend

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_02]: this movie and I don't, and that's acceptable.

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's where we, you know, hey, we watch these, all the movies we watch, all the TV

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_02]: shows, all the books we talk about, all the, we're always never going to be in total agreement.

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is one of those situations where Brian and I agree for the reasons we do and

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Adina and Chris agree for the reasons they do.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's perfectly fine.

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It really is.

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I still love you guys.

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I still love you too, Brian.

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to watch something else when we come over.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_07]: We're not going to watch.

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're not going to put Spaceballs on in June?

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Chris, when you come over, we'll watch Spaceballs.

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_07]: But Brian, you and your family come over.

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll watch them.

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Brian, we'll go watch Godzilla minus one.

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying we can't make a pitch that when we, when we get off, when we like all

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: meet up at your mom's place, we don't put on, we're not going to put on Spaceballs.

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_07]: I guess that's probably not going to happen.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_07]: We'll have to find something else.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_07]: It's okay.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of other things to watch.

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of other things.

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Which we did the last time.

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: What did we do the last time?

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I was just going to say that one of my favorite big sci-fi moments with you guys was when we

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_05]: got to watch something together for the first time in person, not just on Zoom.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, we have, we have a friend named Ryan from the, and I quote channel, that's always

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_05]: doing watch alongs and stuff like that.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But we watched, shout out to Ryan because he shouts out to us all the time here at the

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_05]: good friend of the big sci-fi.

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And check out his, he does live stream stuff every Saturday, a lot of Fridays.

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And so check that out.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But we got to watch Discovery together and I was really tired.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_05]: That was tough.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_05]: We were watching that.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Me too.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_05]: It was still like, I feel like that was a moment.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Like that was an epic big sci-fi podcast crew moment to watch Star Trek together for the

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_05]: first time, so.

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was fun.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Did we watch it last year too?

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We watched season four?

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have time last year.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the only time we did this, right?

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Where we watched like Star Trek together?

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_02]: But this was, this was special because we all had not seen the last episode.

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And then that came out that particular day.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So we're all got the conclusion of the series together.

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So we were ready for Trek Long Island where they were talking about the end of Discovery.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So we were up to date, which is cool.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That was fun.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I was very tired, but it was, it was a fun time.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one exhausted.

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_05]: No, no.

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You were definitely not.

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd been up all night long.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I flew the red eye into New York City.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Steve's a machine, guys.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: He can do anything you want, Captain.

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Love it.

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But thank you all for a really great discussion.

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a lot of fun talking about Spaceballs and hearing how we all feel about it.

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But remember, everyone, stay safe, watch some sci-fi, and of course, listen to Big Sci-Fi,

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: the podcast.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And before we go, may the Schwartz be with you.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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