Rico E. Anderson

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[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Today we are interviewing a journeyman actor who has been who has appeared in over

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_06]: 90 TV shows movies and has done voiceover work for various

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Video games as well. His name is I

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry. I gotta say that his name is Rico

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Rico E. Anderson

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know why Rico makes we want to do that voice and he is today's guest on the big sci-fi podcast

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_06]: but before we begin

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's have the members of the big sci-fi podcast introduce themselves to Rico and they are

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Hi, I'm Adina from Maryland

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey Rico, it's Brian from Ohio. I'm not gonna do a voice though

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, I've never been called a journeyman so that that's that's the first and I've never gotten a

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Joe Pesci style introduction like that. So is that what that was? Okay

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Am I funny, do you think I'm funny are you laughing at me?

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And our third member of the group is Chris and he isn't here

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm Steve and I'm the host of today's podcast so blame me

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And let me say how grateful we are to be part of the trek geeks network of podcasters

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_06]: They you can always find our prior episodes and always always always share them with your friends and neighbors

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_06]: It gets us more and more up the uh, the order of

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[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_06]: So without further ado, let's meet Rico and learn more what it's like to be a successful as he's I said journeyman actor

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think I'm gonna start off with the very first question. I have to use how did you get the acting bug?

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It at six years old it hit me

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow, and and I'm not even joking at six years old. I was just like I think this is something that I

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_04]: would love to do I remember watching tv and

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_04]: just seeing

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Just seeing some of my favorite shows and just

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_04]: picturing myself being there and being on there and

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And doing those, you know just playing

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_04]: also

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Not just playing the characters that I saw but playing

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_04]: In picturing in my head creating characters actually and oh wow

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just always saw tv differently even as a kid and and and I always knew that's something that

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I just I wanted to be a part of and

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know how as we grow up and we see people who

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_04]: We can be drawn towards that we can relate to that may inspire us

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Because of whatever, you know

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: In my case

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_04]: grown grown men, you know doing doing cool stuff on tv and in film and and things like that

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_04]: grown black men

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Doing really cool stuff and just seeing that representation

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and wanting to be

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: wanting to be

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_04]: part of that representation but also having that overall fun

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_04]: of doing

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Doing television and and film, you know and and really wanting to be in that mix so it it it to me was a

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_04]: A dream that even at six. I don't know if I really fully realized it how much I wanted to but I just knew that

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Whenever I watched anything even cartoons

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I really fully understanding voiceover even as a kid. I knew somebody I knew the voices were coming from somewhere

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'll take this animated

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Super friends or whatever, you know, so it's like because of that. I just knew I wanted to be in this mix this hollywood

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_04]: mix

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, ever since six ever since wow was was there a particular show?

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Or character on a show maybe a few that that you particularly

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Were drawn towards or that resonated with you? Well, I would I will or will not admit to

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Having seen these shows when they first came out but

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_04]: you know

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of classic tv out there that

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_04]: They have certain names like, uh, I don't know good times are all in a family

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Love boat or

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_04]: We're in the 1970s here kids. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, you know, see you see kids. Yeah

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Before all things recordings and stuff like that you'd have to be there

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Otherwise you were screwed

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_06]: You had to wait you had to wait till the summer reruns

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I I grew up that way in the in the 60s watching tv and if you missed an episode

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Or if two episodes were running against each other this of series that you like well, you had to choose one over the other

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Struggle the struggle was real

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: back back in the day

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And even in syndication

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You you just had to be lucky that they aired what you hope to see

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know so watching star trick the original star trick in syndication

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: There were episodes I didn't see till dvds came out just because they never got they never happened to get shown

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So which makes me wonder did they actually show all the uh, all those original series episodes when when they were

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: You know in syndication show. I don't think so. I don't think so 79 episodes. Yeah, or where they all be

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, really?

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so. Yeah

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Because when I started to really become a Trekkie which was after season one of next generation

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I went back and I deliberately started taping original series episodes

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, there were ones that I did not see till I was an adult

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I'll be darn

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's it's a trip. I I and I what was the original question?

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_04]: What characters or shows tangent a lot?

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And trust me I do too. Well, so wait, what was it again? What what which characters or shows?

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Particularly resonated with you are inspired and you started rattling off a bunch of shows from the 70s

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I mean I was a big old tv hit. So I just watched everything

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But um one of the shows that I that I will say was there was a huge inspiration

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Because of going back to representation and and all of that was I remember watching roots for the first

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay, and that was like an era where most

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_04]: kids

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And children's parents especially black children their parents sat us down and said hey listen

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_04]: So we know you normally go to bed around nine

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_04]: They have a little later because there's this show that's coming on and it's called roots and it's about

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It's about your history as um as an african-american here in the united states how we got here and just the whole history

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Of slavery and just a part of american history that is very important

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's important that you know this and so

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: She like many other parents had us staying had me staying up way past my bedtime

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_04]: To watch them and of course what was cool about watching it alongside of learning its history and everything

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Was seeing pretty much every black actor in hollywood. Yes

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, everyone can do that. Yeah, I mean they were pretty much like all right look we got to make this series

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, who do we got let's just literally get the black list and um

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And not the black list of people who thank you. Thank you

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You know couldn't work because of this that the other yeah, yeah

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_04]: The the other black list of black actors and and literally you look at that show and there's it's a who's who have

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_05]: everybody

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Was who was active back then or you know at least the majority of like the name

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_04]: People and even some people who actually rose to fame as a result of it

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And and you think about bar Burton

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. Let our Burton knew who who was a young kid in that film or the tv series

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_06]: went on to do

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_06]: So much good work on pbs and then ended up on one of you know star trek's most beloved series. So yeah, yeah

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Fixing the ship making sure the ship ran. That's what he did. That's what he did. Yeah

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm representing like hell and and what was great about it was you know even just fast forwarding to next gen

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously a c in that representation

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But also the nostalgia of seeing oh my god. That's lavar of urdin. That's kutukente. That's that's

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You know and and for myself that's something that I that I was really inspired by seeing

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_04]: In terms of his work and just what he represented watching roots

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So roots was a was a big inspiration for myself and it was a big

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_04]: All and it was one of those shows where I was just like oh my god

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm seeing this person from this show that person from that show and all these people and

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Again, it just it just heightened my want to be a part of the industry that

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_04]: That i've been very blessed enough to

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Still be a part of to this day. So was your family very supportive of your desire to

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, no, no, you read my mind. That was the question I was going to ask. Thank you

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they were they and and they still are to this day. Um, you know, there's like like most families

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_04]: There's always concerns because of the thoughts of what the industry

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_04]: can deliver and

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: very challenging force delivering in terms of

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Just a regular paycheck

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_04]: regular, thank you regular making money being successful

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_04]: The the percentages and all that kind of stuff and I always say like console. Hey never tell me the odds because

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Today, I want to do it and I told myself i'm going to do it no matter what I hear

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_04]: No matter what anything and thank god, I did have that support because

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: uh

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It obviously that helps, you know to have the the thumbs up from your loved ones and um

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's it's been it's been great. And of course, you know, like with most things there are

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You got your haters. You got your people who will try to discourage you

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And but it was never family. It was never family. That's great. That's great

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But my will has always been

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_04]: More than anybody ever telling me I can't do this or you really should think about plan b or it never had a plan b, you know

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, just just I just my ambition is so high

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I in those no limits. I've wanted to do this and I told myself i'm going to do this

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And with the understanding it is going to be tough

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna do it, you know you you you

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Can't you can't you got to listen to yourself at the end of the day and do what you feel is right for you

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_04]: and in this case

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_04]: The only way any level of success is going to happen is if you

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Really just go for it. Yeah, that's that's something that is

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: As a parent i've got a 10 year old daughter and an eight year old son

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're both super creative

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They love to sing they let they're getting really good at drawing

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: My son

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Could sing or act. I believe if you if he I think my daughter's

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: She really loves to help people. She's probably gonna be more of a

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, what you know, I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up a nurse

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Or a scientist or something like that either but uh

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I just my my wife and I are constantly trying to instill in them

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Anything worth doing that you love doing

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Irregard is is gonna be hard

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and you have to work hard and if you want to do it and

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You put the effort in and you believe in yourself

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to go for it and let the results lay where they do

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But don't not go for it because it's hard and yeah, so it's it's pretty cool to hear you say to talk about that a little bit

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's minister into my heart brother. So um

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: As I as I think about my own parenting life, but so so you you talked about wanting to be in television

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And in film in in these amazing inspirations you have especially with roots

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Was there a moment when you tested yourself for the first time like can I act like how did you actually get into

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: acting

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So i'm originally from chicago south side of chicago

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I lived there until

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_04]: If my mom and my siblings and bunch of family members until I was 11

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And then my mom and my then two brothers

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_04]: We moved to berkeley california

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And oh wow. Yeah, and so from there I we I was in uh

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And we were raised catholic and so we went to this catholic school in berkeley

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And we had this

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_04]: basically like this showcase

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_04]: and um, I had done something I had twisted my ankle broke my foot or something I was

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I was a rough boy. I I was if I honestly I've I've broken it. I've sprung it. I've twisted it. I

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Have done everything one can do minus losing the foot not you you tested mom at the same time

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Through all that

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: These boys man, oh god, you know, it's just like

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_04]: That's to the point where the doctor was even like

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Hello riko. What are we gonna punch your card? You had a card that you punched every time?

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was it was um

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We had done we were doing like a scene from jesus christ superstar and uh

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Song you are the christ. Yo, the great jesus god. Okay, so we were doing that and we did it kind of like a kind of like

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Not course line, but uh kind of like a rockhead thing. So it's kind of like okay

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So like that so we're doing this and at the time I wasn't in crutch on crutches

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't hurt

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: But then I come to school

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm hurt and so of course the the teacher is like how are we gonna do this because you know, I'm part of the

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm part of that line

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And so long story short, uh, I get in the line

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_04]: and I'm on my crutches

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And I just start doing it and I have a cast on so I just started doing it where

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm on the crutches and instead of obviously going full throttle on it

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I do it in a funny way and I ended up

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I ended up killing him man. I

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I blew the house down the audience loved it

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It did it

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_04]: They were laughing their butts off and so it was it was it was a funny thing that kind of kicked in where I was just like

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, this is cool. I like this

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm making people laugh and I'm on stage and I'm doing something and it wasn't deliberate

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just in my mind. I was just like hey

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: This is what I need to do if I'm going to still be a part of this number

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So I did it

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And then the next big one was this show that I did called the faculty follies

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Which was put on by uh, my seventh and eighth grade drama teacher, uh, george falker

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: in berkeley who um

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: He it was basically a tribute to the old

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: musicals of back in the day the musabee berkeley musicals and oh wow

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Taking in the rain and all that

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And what he did was he cast the staff the teachers as different characters

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And um, there was this one kid who was playing mr. Bill jangles and he got sick

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like one of those classic i'll do it uh story. So he gets sick

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Seventh grade teacher, uh miss delt was playing shirley temple. And so I ended up playing. Oh my gosh

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I ended up playing mr. Bill jangles. My mom actually, uh was the choreographer

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_04]: She tap danced and so she's she's teaching me the number and it was one of those last minute

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Gotta learn a oh god like two three days to learn it and uh rehearse it and do it

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Long story short did it and the audience loved it

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And I loved it and it was like kind of the beginning of just doing all this really cool stuff

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was just like theater theater. I like yeah, I think I

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Theater I want to do more theater

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So I did a ton of theater in high school at berkeley high which was um very

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_04]: much a

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Big deal in terms of what a high school would offer in terms of uh theater arts department

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We were our theater that we performed in was like a huge

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it was called the little theater

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_04]: So it was a small theater

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was connected to the berkeley community theater

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Which was also owned and connected to the follow me here to the berkeley city hall

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Which used all that stuff for all their stuff

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But as since we were right across the street from we had we had carblons to use all that stuff at the time

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_04]: We had the latest in technology in terms of lights sound. We had full-on wood shop

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Big department. I mean we were it. Wow, we were killing the game as far as a high school

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Rockin music amazing musicals operettas plays uh dance productions

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_04]: uh

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Band I mean

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Jazz, I mean we had so much going on and and and I was a part of the musicals the plays the operettas

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just just really being in that theater mix and and and being a part of basically what is the history of

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_04]: The industry at home because that's you know theaters where everything started out

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So I had a great beginning in terms of my acting career just

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Being immersed in this this wonderful this wonderful medium like I have very

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I get the feeling you like theater riko

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: a little bit

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, I wish our listeners were just an audio podcast

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish our listeners just moments like this when I wish we would do video and figure that out

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it was fantastic

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh our our faithful listeners to see riko's excitement. It was just tangible on the yes

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And he talks with his hands like I do

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: It's so much fun. I mean it's just so theater there's nothing like it. I mean

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It you it's it's it's raw

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_04]: It's rough rugged and raw anything. It happens once the show starts you roll with it

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And I I I could write a book on story

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I've got a great right. I've got a philosophy

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know if it's really it's not a worked out philosophy

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an idea that I think it's helpful

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: For anybody if they get a chance to be a part of any theater production

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: To do it. I'm telling you the one college theater production. I was a part of I had three roles

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Costume changes dance scenes singing numbers

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: All that stuff I was on stage for a lot of the play. I didn't have the most lines or anything

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But I was on stage a lot

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That broke me out of my shell and taught me so much about going for it in life and

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: letting you know just

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Rolling with it like you just say, you know, you got it sometimes lines come out weird or

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you miss marks or things are forgotten and you just got to roll with it

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You learn so much from being in theater

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_04]: You you do it's just so much fun and it has it teaches so many

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean you you really nailed it. It teaches a lot of cool lessons about

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Just how life will hit you at certain, you know times and you just know

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_04]: You got to know how to deal with you got to know how to deal with spot

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Situations you got to know how to deal with on the spot

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Moments it's like in in theater, you know people paid that ticket and so you messed up on a line all they're looking at is

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, what's he gonna do?

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, it's just like

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh man, I

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Lights could go out somebody could go up on a line or say a line. There's like five or six pages

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, uh or two scenes over and just looking at them like

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_04]: For goodness

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, all right. We doing this right? Okay. So let me see if I can get all of us back on track. You know what I mean

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_04]: right, you know, you know, I had a

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_04]: This this one um, this one theater company. I was part of

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the main members was he always said look at the end of the day the audience don't know jack

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And and but but that's a testament to you as the actor or the performer

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Whenever your position is working out even if you're up in the light man work that work it out

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Work it out. Yeah, it's willing. I say this all the time. I'm sorry guys. I'm hogging riko for a minute

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That's okay. I'm enjoying this fine. You roll with it

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I say this all the time on our podcast riko

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Willing suspension of disbelief that audience comes into a theater wanting to be entertained wanting to escape wanting to be taken away

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Into a different world a different time and place all that stuff

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And so even if you do make mistakes sometimes they really truly don't see them as mistakes

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're good at flowing with it and figuring it out as you go

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it can become part of the charm of of person's experience too, you know

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, and also especially if you don't know the piece of course that play to you just your your your whole

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_04]: experience of of coming up on something new but even if you do know the piece and

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And you can tell oh, they they just kind of they just kind of hiccup

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_04]: The beauty of it is

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_04]: They're also seeing you come out of it

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and get back on and get back on track and that's part of the experience of that

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_04]: That ticket that you got because at the end of the day

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's you're you're seeing the art as it truly

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh was meant to be seen

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And I say that with with no disrespect to film and tv

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But the art is really taking what has been created and just continuing continuously

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Making it better every yes

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Formants every

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Formants, okay. So using the term I use you so your journey man

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_06]: From stage to television and movies. How did that happen?

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I always knew that I wanted to

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Go to hollywood

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And be and continue that journey there by doing

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_04]: film and tv

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_04]: When I graduated high school. I went to san francisco state and studied there

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And while I was studying at state, um, I started doing a lot of I started immersing myself in film

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And um, it was basically a lot of independent film and I started doing background work as well

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_04]: On different movies that would come to the bay area to shoot

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and so, uh, I I hooked up with a lot of the filmmakers in

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_04]: at san francisco state and, uh, uh, just a lot of people who were writers and people who wanted to put together

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Features as well as short films and see growing up in the 90s was a huge, uh, renaissance

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_04]: in um, and black awareness, uh, you had a lot of

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Movies like spike lee was big back then

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Johnson came up on the scene and you had a lot of movies that

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, that that dealt with a lot of uh black issues black life social consciousness and things like that

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And from the success of all these wonderful movies and seeing these these black directors

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: There was a lot of inspiration coming out of that. So that drew a lot of

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_04]: uh, amazing writers

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_04]: producers directors who became really close friends of mine who were really wonderful friends of mine to this day

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_04]: and you know

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_04]: We had no money. We didn't have no money, but we

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Had what we had and was able to get what we can get and we would make films

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We would make short films or we would make um, you know, if it

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Having access to the performing arts department in the the broadcasting department. Sometimes we had access to that

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_04]: we were able to

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know people just knew people or maybe they had a like a little super eight camera or something like that

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_04]: We just a we just worked it out and and

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and a lot of really cool things were created. I mean

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: We made music videos. We made short films. I made a couple of big features

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And and it was just it was just a wonderful time to be a part of this

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_04]: This this revolution of filmmaking that was already very successful due to the success of people like spike lee and

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I said

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Little tin and a lot of the other movies that that would come out around that time

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was in it. I was in that mix and um, so that's what kicked it off and that's what even made me want to

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But at that point I was just like I can't get to la I I can't get there any faster at this point because I really wanted to go

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_04]: but

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I had obligations at home as well with with family and

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And I just felt it myself. I wasn't really ready to go yet not take that plunge

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But while I was still up there, I was still doing a lot of stuff. So

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_06]: When did you went so how late into your career?

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Did you finally make it la and did you start doing television at that time we get the los angeles?

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So when when I got to la, uh, I started I did more more film

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Tried to get into more tv

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not easy getting a theatrical agent

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_04]: So it it was a little hard getting the type of representation to

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_04]: To get me there to get me in those doors to get me in those

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_04]: In in in front of those those those casting directors the producers directors and what have you

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Didn't take long, but eventually

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I was able to get

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_04]: A manager and an agent

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Part of the catch 22 of this industry is

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was sag I was in the union

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_04]: But a big part of the catch 22 of the industry is a lot of a lot of agents don't want to take you on

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_04]: If you don't have a demo reel showcasing your work, and maybe even if you have a demo reel

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of times they don't want to take you on because you haven't been on a big show or a well known show

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Or a well-known movie. So it's like well, how can I do that?

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: If I don't have somebody who has the juice to help get me in the door so I can audition

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_04]: While the draws off and get up in there and then boom that but

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Eventually there's usually always somebody who's going to be like

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I like this guy. He's got the look that I need. I need somebody like him on his rock on my roster

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He looks like he's somebody that I could

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I could work with I could I could um

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I could help with the career

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I can help get him in some doors

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_04]: and so

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what happened. I I ended up hooking up with a rep

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, at first I had a commercial agent and then I ended up hooking up with a representative

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Manager who was able to get me in some doors and get me

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Some some amazing auditions where I ended up booking and and you know booking is kind of a snowball

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_04]: it's like before you know it you just you're

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Your your name is being floated around and maybe you don't get that first audition

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe you don't get that maybe you don't book that job

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_04]: But the fact that rico Anderson rico and oh rico Anderson. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, I think that guy who isn't that thing

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Will you see me?

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Because it's like

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_04]: You you want people to see you. I mean you want people to know exactly who you are and what you've done

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But the majority of the actors in this town are pretty much that guy or that girl who was in that thing

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you can have your a-listers and your people who are weren't really well known

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you can just have people who were just like

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yo, I've seen you in stuff man. What?

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_04]: What if I say, oh

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know what I mean? It's just like

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You know and nowadays with the power of social media and all sorts of different avenues to be able to really get people to know

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, I'm I got this show dropping. I'm doing this next week. I'm in this

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It makes it a lot easier but but yeah, it was it was uh that that's that was a big part of the journey as far as

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh crossing over

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh into doing tv my first big network job was uh the shield if y'all oh, yes

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, you know the shield was my first big one with michael chiclis on the fx

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: That's great. Just um all from there

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_06]: So the being involved with the star trek

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_06]: film renegade

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yes

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot of

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_06]: It'll I use this word

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Illuminaries of star trek that were in it and you got to be in it as well

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Did you work alongside with these people?

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Did did you have spent time with walter konig and and did you spend time with uh with gary grayham or tim russ or robber

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_06]: picardo at all

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so just just to add on to what you were saying um that

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_04]: This I say this is a who's who of sci-fi franchises because it's not only people from star trek

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean you got people from the terminator series. You got people from star wars. You got people from

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_04]: uh

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_04]: gosh, uh

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course now i'm blanking uh

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Blade runner uh shan yang um

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Long uh and then of course yes, you know your your your folks from trek um

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_04]: My main

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_04]: The main people that I worked with on there was bruce yang

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_04]: My father borata and uh, he's well known for many things but he was also in jurassic park

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But also, um

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_04]: My my main, I would say

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, well tim russ directed it

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So I worked with him every single time I was on set

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh did not work with picardo, but I saw him on set. I was there. I mean I pretty much saw everybody

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know met walter and saw him for the first time

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I never had any scenes with him, but had a chance some some great opportunities to sit and just

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Shed up it up with him

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, uh adrian wilkinson who uh was my

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_04]: My nemesis, uh, I worked with her

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it was it was uh

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to say

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_04]: To be able to say that I worked on something that had like

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_04]: So many

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_04]: various franchises that I loved

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I just

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Up is this it's it's pretty surreal and i'm i'm pretty blessed to be able to say that i

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_04]: That i've worked with these people either directly

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Like toe-toe or just being on the same call sheet or just being in the same imdb credits

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Or just being a part of the same project really when you think about it because

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_04]: It was such an amazing

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh piece of work to be a part of and to do and you know, this was happening at a time when

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_04]: There was no star trek going on

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Price it just had been off the air. I think at the time for maybe five years four or five years

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And there just wasn't any trek going, you know, and there was a big question of what was going to happen to trek

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_04]: right

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_04]: following enterprise

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_04]: cancellation so

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of independent films came out fan films independent films

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh a lot of different, you know, it was a great time where the fans really stepped up and they were just like

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's let's do some things here. Let's let's let's let's see some stuff

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see what we can do and what was beautiful about renegades was the fact that

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_04]: This was helmed by people from star trek and this was

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_04]: and and and

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_04]: and really

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Done by people who have been in this mix and and have you know in the case of tim

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_04]: reprised his role as as tuba in the case

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh picardo played dr. Zimmerman. He wasn't the doctor, but he plays ever bit so you know and and just of course again furlong

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_04]: john connor, you know, it's just like

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know stuff with him and and just oh man

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Sean young, I mean just these icons of the sci-fi industry

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Just cool, man. I was it's just too bad that

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_06]: At after some point cbs pulled the plug and said no more

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Well more independent films you can't do that anymore. Don't even think of it

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_04]: well, it was really more just there there has to be a limit on how this is going to be done because of

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_04]: because of things that were happening that that that

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going too far

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and as a result it it had to they just kind of had to reel things in

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_04]: you know I it

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a it was a great thing to be able to be a part of

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_04]: that movement at the time that

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Was really needed when people

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_04]: starving for that brand of sci-fi

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Had the conventions and we of course still had other means of

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_04]: of

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_04]: of

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Being able to

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_04]: get our fix

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I was a huge fan seal to this day. I'm a huge fan of star trek audiobooks the old school star trek. Oh, yeah

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep, great. He was doing a lot of the narration and tim and armin and and um, oh, that's my favorite one right there

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Shadows of the oh, wow. Okay. That audiobook is phenomenal. Yes. Yes. I agree

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You you know you had them doing this and and really being

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Really, I mean you're hearing these characters again. Frank is a beast

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, I get it. Here's my recommendation also

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_04]: My recommendation is to find read it

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But go and listen to

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_04]: crossover

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I read it

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, so you already know you already know what's up with crossover. It's got

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It's got next gen and then they also have kurt. I'm sorry. They also have spock mccoy and scottie

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's a it's just a great story. I mean junith and garfield reese stevens can do no wrong when it comes to storytelling

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And put them together and get freaks in there to do all the all the uh, brilliant ships

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Another one as well

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Again combining the old trek with the new trek the current the new trek at the time

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And and how the story is intertwined and I mean it's just it's just beautiful work and

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_04]: You feel like you're getting

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Episodes of next gen that just never you know never happened because of whatever reason there was no way

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's just great. So yeah, it was it was an amazing experience and um, I have lifelong friends to this day

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And so yeah, yeah

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And now

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, Steve that now I've been

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Discovering riko a lot of those

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Old school audiobooks on youtube now people are putting them on youtube and you can find i'm finding

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Every now and then some I haven't ever listened to before

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're just fantastic. I mean they're

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, they are highly abridged for the most part

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But you still the actors did such a phenomenal job

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Of bringing those stories to life there. It was like extra trek

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I used those audiobooks for and I actually had the cassette tapes

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: In a few of the cds

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was my track when I didn't have track, you know

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I I still have a few of those cassette tapes

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you somewhere in a box over there?

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I agree. I agree and and the one that you had uh shown

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Brian got shadows on the sun. Yes, that's definitely one of the best ones and they also and they have that on

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I think they do have that on

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Then they also have crossover and they also have ships of the line

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I was very big into reading the novels back in the late 80s early 90s

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed the original

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_00]: See, you know original series novels because right it was extra track

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_00]: and I was always a fan of like

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_00]: ones that were actually standalone stories that took place in universe and didn't necessarily

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Involved the main characters because I loved the extra depth you got to like some random planet or to vulcan or cling on culture or something like that

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was beautiful because those you know books can

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And especially in the case of star trek it really gives you an opportunity to dive to really deep dive in a way where

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: production could but

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_04]: people

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_04]: People want to see a ton of their their characters and

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say probably over more than

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's do a eight episode

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Eight episodes of vulcan or

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_04]: What's that?

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is this one I had sitting here only because because my all of them are in the on my shelves in the basement

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But this one I had here because recently

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_00]: This was by Michael Jan Friedman and he

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Autographed this what where did you autograph? Yeah, he autographed this one for me. Yeah

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He autographed he autographed this for me too at track long island. Oh cool. Yeah. Yeah

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_04]: He's a heart

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they they I tell you and also this is going a little bit off script

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Season four of enterprise. I feel like

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: That that was the best season because I feel like

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_04]: The best thing they could have done for that show is what they did in season four

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_04]: They brought in Judith and garfield reads

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_04]: to create

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Just these amazing storylines

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And kind of started the beginning of serialized storytelling that you know, we we basically get in current trek today, you know

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_04]: One season devoted towards one big story

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're the ones that did the the whole Vulcan

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_06]: The

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Eric storyline they'll three every three arc story the episode

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_06]: story um

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Besides trek you also appeared in the other trek series better known as the orville

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_06]: How was that?

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_04]: The the next generation homage. I like to call

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It was it was it was fun. It was it, you know, I I felt honored being a part of it because

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I looked at it this way

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_04]: When when in Leonard Nimoy became what was cast as Spock

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_04]: He is the template of what we see as what a Vulcan should be

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody else after Nimoy is basically

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_04]: a part of what

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He created in terms of mannerisms

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Just just all things Vulcan right

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And so people have played them wonderfully throughout throughout treks history

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I looked at playing the Moklin doctor as in that way

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_04]: whether the orville goes

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Four seasons or 40 seasons. I feel like the Moklins are

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, I mean everybody's new in there

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So but I feel like this new character that is also on the forefront as part of the main crew

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_04]: with

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_04]: You know

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_04]: You know Bortus is really holding it down. Uh, Peter making as far as like what a what a Moklin is all about

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you're seeing Moklins really early on in the game

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Especially my episode about about a girl which deals with the Moklin situation. I mean you seeing Moklins

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_04]: tall Moklin short Moklin started. I would say female, but you know

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Apparently Moklins aren't born female which if you spoiler alert Moklins were called

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So for a few years we can yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like look if you ever see

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Now let's tell you, you know

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Later is Luke's father there. Yeah

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I was working with all the prosthetics

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Because most of the work you've done it has not been prosthetic work. Is that

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It's cool. I actually really love it. I love it. I don't I don't have an issue with

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I don't get claustrophobic it itched a little bit like I on the on the Moklin prosthetic it itched

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I I had a constant itch on my

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_04]: On my neck the upper part of my neck like towards my ear

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_04]: So obviously you can't scratch it. You can only like tap it just to you know tap the itch out

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But it wasn't a problem

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never like and even as boros and in in renegades start to renegades. I didn't have a problem with actually love

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_04]: The prosthetic and having all that stuff on it. It's it's literally like, you know, how if you would have put on a soup

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Or a dress, you know how it just kind of helps to helps you in that moment

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And you're going to be a certain way you're going to walk a certain way you even got to act a certain way in a lot

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Will you have very expressive facial features? Does it limit what you can do?

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit a little bit

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_04]: but

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_04]: What where you make up with that is you

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously your physical your physical

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But the eyes are a big thing

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_04]: The eyes have to

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It has to

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Tell the story even more because in essence, that's all you have

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You know in terms of any expressions like if you're going to do close-ups

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why people like uh michael doran were you know, it was so good as warf because oh, yeah

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He was mad. You saw it when he was excited. You saw it when you when you know, he you saw the various

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_04]: emotions

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Robito Riley you are you already know his big old buggy eyes, you know he he when he's like

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's just like

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, but also when he's pissed off and he's like i'm gonna kill you

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_04]: You know it

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_04]: and

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_04]: When you're in prosthetics you you have to compensate for

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_04]: What may not necessarily?

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh worked if you weren't in prosthetics, you know

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I do have a very expressive face and

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a blessing and a curse because on tv you can't you can't go too crazy because

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna be too much

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Theater it's great, but in tv you have to tone it down and just know how to

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Because the camera doesn't lie and the lens is going the lens is the lens does the lens is

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_04]: bipartisan it's not going

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Right

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not it's not taken sides if if you suck it's gonna show

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But if you're killing the game this show this dude's killing the game and i'm about to show the world

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_04]: So but it's fun. I love doing it. I can't wait to get back in it

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's it's some of the best

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And some of the most challenging acting

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's cool. Come on. It's prosthetics. It's you know, it's it's done in many genres

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know sci-fi is one of the biggest genres. I mean look at our buddy

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't you know just like Doug is the king of that stuff?

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes. Yes, and Doug be killing the game

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Doug be getting out there and no matter what he wears

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_06]: You believe him you believe he's he is the creature from the black lagoon

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_06]: You believe him that he is this lizard

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Creature that he was in that film. Yes

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You believe him and and and a true

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of that also comes from from a lot of our theater exercise going back to theater theater exercise movement

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of those funny theater exercises that even as actors we all made fun of if you were an animal

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_04]: How would you as an animal act and be and what what what kind of animal is your character and all that kind of stuff

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And those things actually make sense when you think about it because

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Especially if you're in prosthetics because it's just like you have to take on a persona that

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Is going to be shown more in your body and of course your words

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_04]: But not necessarily in your face depending on what kind of prosthetics you're wearing so

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_04]: It's great at the charges

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_06]: so

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_06]: You've done the acting

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you thought

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to pursue writing a script. I want to be the creator of the film or

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to be the person directing the actors because I know what it means to be an actor and

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_06]: How to have you thought about branching out into that or do you just still wish to stay in front of the camera?

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_04]: uh, I I would like to

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I would like to branch out more and do more stuff

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I do have my irons in the fire as we speak

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a couple of ideas that i'm that i am floating around. I am a huge time travel

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_04]: nerd

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It said so on your website that you're also a time traveler

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yes. Yes. Where you'll never know

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I I love time travel stories

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And I love the the you know, I just I just love the whole idea of what time travel

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_04]: is all about

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_04]: and

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I I have a time travel anthology that i'm currently working on. Oh nice. Nice

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Writing and it's it's in the form of various mediums that i'm really excited to to bring to life and

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_04]: One that's in development now actually that that i'm working on is a love letter to my nieces and nephews

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And um, it's also a very historical

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_04]: piece and it's um

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'll just say stay tuned. There's some some cool stuff happening and um,

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, i'm really excited about it

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I love the idea of being behind the scenes in this case because I feel like also as artists we we have ideas

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_04]: We have thoughts

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_04]: We you can't help but have ideas and things especially when you're exposed to so many stories and being a huge sci-fi nerd that I am

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I get my brain is just wrapped around so many types of

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_04]: types of stories in this the world of

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_04]: sci-fi fantasy horror and just all the things

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And so yeah, it's it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be a time travel anthology

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Each one of them they are separate stories, but they're all connected. It's all one universe

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's just different situations, but it deals with a family and um

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'll just say I'll I'll just say stay tuned. It's it's that's great

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah writing and I guess in this case producing is gonna be is going to be something that I will be dipping

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_04]: in more

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_06]: No, no, there's so many of the star trek

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_06]: actors

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_06]: became star trek directors and

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_06]: outside of star trek directing as well

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And we have seen what greatness they've done and just because they were given

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_06]: The opportunity to branch out and try something different and my goodness

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, you think of iran howard who was a good actor

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_06]: But he's a greater director and the films he's directed both

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_06]: science fiction and other story. You know, he's a remarkable person. So, you know

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe that's that that could be your next step. That's the next, you know

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Movement in the next journey

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_06]: For you as an actor to become, uh, you know behind the scenes the person behind the camera

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I will say no matter what happens acting will never leave me

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I will never not be in front of the camera. I always feel like that's always going to be

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_04]: the

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_04]: The the main course as far as whatever I I decide to whatever extra I decided to to pursue in this industry

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to be a part of telling the stories that

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_04]: That entertain make you laugh make you cry piss you off and make you think

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I also have a podcast that i'm working on as well

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't really speak on right now, but it it does deal with history

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_05]: and

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_04]: specific types of history

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And i'm really excited about that because it is a bit of time traveling that's happening because of

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_04]: The genre the the nature of it and and how it does tie into

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_04]: let's just say

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_04]: What I

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And have been immersed in and wanting to be immersed in ever since I was six

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Is there anything you would have done different in your career

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_06]: That or of you you feel like every step you've done has been the right step to bring you to this moment in your life

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I so growing up I one of the things that I've always told myself was in some other multiverse

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm probably either a doctor or a fireman because I I love

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I've always wanted to be I've always loved at least seeing those professions on tv

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that would have been cool to to do or be and so

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course one of the goals is to play a doctor and play a fireman on as a series regular on a on a show

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Or just have a really good role where that's that's what I'm

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what i'm doing so

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But beyond that now now there's never really been anything that else that I've ever wanted to do

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_04]: or

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Or be a part of as far as

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_04]: What really fuels my soul?

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Really what just makes me happy. I've just always been happy

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_04]: creating and

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And helping to bring other people's work to life

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_04]: and

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And this industry is nuts

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Nuts yeah crazy

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But there's a part of me that loves every bit of it

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's true of anyone in the movie and

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_06]: TV industry is that it's crazy

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_06]: You never know what's going to happen next you never know what's going to be the next turn or twist in your career

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And you have to roll with the punches and love it probably

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_04]: You you do and and I think one of the things that was really a big test of that for myself was

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_04]: last year's strike

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Which started as the writer strike

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Actors ended up joining the writers and

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I'd like to you know, I usually say nothing was the same ever since

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like the pandemic. You know, not a lot. No

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing will ever be the same in many in many respects

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of things changed for me personally

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh during the strike

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_04]: professionally, uh, we all took hits

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And there's still a huge question mark as far as what is going to happen. Where is the industry going?

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_04]: What is what is our place in the industry how much of our place is going to change in this industry?

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it worth it being a part of it still well for me it is I ain't going nowhere

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_04]: but

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But I understand why some people do question

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Whether or not this is going to be an industry that is going to change for the worst in many respects

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_04]: But I felt strongly enough at the time and still do that

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I need to fight for the industry that I wanted to be a part of ever since I was six

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So I had my ass out there and I had to strike and I had to you know, I was I was out there, man. I was I was uh

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I I I felt like we were fighting for the soul of hollywood for the future of hollywood for all things

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And for all people who have been here before us

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You know and fighting for the future that we are basically as the people who are in it. We're up. We're the ones who are up

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So we're basically gonna be uh caring caring it forward here from era. So and to fight and to me

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_04]: proud proud to have been there proud to have proud to be um

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_04]: To have been

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_04]: In those trenches definitely. Yeah, definitely and

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_06]: It affected a lot of people

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And I I hope that

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Those that were

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_06]: involved in the strike

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Came out of it

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_06]: With jobs as opposed to at some point going

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm done with acting. I'm walking away from it. I don't need this anymore

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Know what I know has has done that

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_06]: That's good

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But I will say that there are some people who have felt like

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_04]: There might be some drastic changes that yeah, yeah, that could really truly affect depending on

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_04]: What level people are at as far as like like

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of people feel like background work may may may take one of the biggest hits

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Going forward

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I know I know people who who who do background work

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I know people who are deeply heavily involved in background work who have who make living who make a living off background work

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_04]: uh respectfully and and I

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I am very concerned for their future because

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_04]: They kick ass when they're doing it and they

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_04]: professionals and and they don't you know, they don't play

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's like they they are professionals and and they and they deserve

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_04]: We all deserve it. We all deserve to have the type of

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_04]: living that

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_04]: This is what we want to do. We should be able to do it without

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_04]: thinking about

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Do I need to drive uber on the side to

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Make up yes. Yeah. Yeah, and that's really in a lot of cases many professions, but in terms of the acting profession

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_04]: There is still a concern of what's going to happen going forward so

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot will be

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Um

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Things will work itself out. Gotta keep fighting. I've got to keep speaking. Yeah, we're

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You go ahead, Brian. We're we're with you guys too. We had uh,

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Natalia Castellanos on our show which on billingsley

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and they brought us up to speed during the strike on what was happening

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And uh, so we were as much as we could be

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_01]: In support of the actors and the writers

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we we care from our point of view about the industry and about the entertainment that entertains us and

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so we were we were in spirit with you guys and steve walked a picket line

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh at least once too and and met michelle hurt again who had been on our show previously and yeah

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So we we appreciate that effort. It was historic

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_01]: important

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not just for the film industry. It was important for

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Children to learn about what was happening

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And what you guys were standing up for um, and I talked to my kids about it

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and so this is what they're doing. This is why and

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, we should support it. So I gotta gotta fight for those rights. I tell you, you know, while we're out there

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_04]: While we're out there, uh striking, you know, you cars everywhere and I was mostly at the paramount

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I was a I visited all the lots and and and walk but I you know, I don't look too far for the paramount lot

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_04]: so I'm basically

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And and right

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But uh, if anybody's ever been to the paramount lot, it's a pretty wide

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh a pretty wide street. Um very lengthy

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Really wide street and and I'm saying that to say that like, you know, a lot of trucks go up and down

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It's one of the main artery streets, you know

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So a lot of trucks going up. But what's always cool is when we were out there, we would see

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_04]: school buses every now and then

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And like, you know, the trucks will come by they give, you know, they show their love

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, uh, the police will come by, you know, they roll by

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Show their love fire trucks. Whoo. Whoo. Show their love

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Kids though in the in the school bus all of a sudden you see now all these little kids going

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just the cutest but the coolest thing

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I don't know if the bus driver said something or maybe they learned something

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe the teacher stole them something because you know teachers always close to going on strike. Oh, yes

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But all I know is when those kids rolled by in that school bus and you got that love

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was also like, hey

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_04]: You little ungrateful bastards. We're doing this for you guys

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_06]: That was the solidarity. Yeah, I mean that was, you know

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_06]: living here in the la area and driving by disney or driving up by paramount

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And having people just honking their horns and and the la pd saying don't honk your horns

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, you're making too much noise or whatever and it was just so great to see the the fans

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_06]: The people just on the street

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Showing their support of you. Yeah. Yeah, and it's a beautiful thing because at the end of the day

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, listen, we're doing this so you can continue to be entertained. We're doing this so your kids can continue to be entertained

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_04]: We're doing this so

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we can get more star trek

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: We're doing right

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_04]: We're doing this so we can so we can talk about things

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so we can talk about the shows that we're a part of so we can release these two of prodigies

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So we can we can we can get star fleet academy going, you know, so we can get you know release section 31

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_04]: So you can get hopefully one day star trek legacy

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yay

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_06]: We all believe in that one. We all believe in that one. So yeah, yeah, I mean

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope it happens but at the end of the day, it's a beautiful thing. Um

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: From from the adults to the kids just the love

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_04]: To fuel us and keep us, you know

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, it's cliche but really it helped to give the help keep the hope alive in terms of

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Making us feel like what we're doing is is so important because

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: No matter what

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: What kids want to do growing up, you know, it's like you

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_04]: You gotta

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You got to know that

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: You have to have certain rights and there's just has to be certain things that have to be questioned and called

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes it gets to the point where it does have to end up being a thing where it's just like well look

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_04]: We have an issue here. I don't know if I can keep doing this

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_04]: If we can't work this out

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, I'm glad I'm glad the strike was over. I'm glad you guys got back to work

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Because you will only bring more entertainment to us and we need

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_06]: We need something to look forward to and that's usually going to the movies or what turning on a tv show

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Seeing a familiar character seeing a familiar actor and and knowing that you know, it's all right

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Art makes the world go around. I mean look during lockdown

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Art was one of the things that really helped our sanity

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_04]: People were scared people were

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Were were unsure of life as we know it going forward

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_04]: There were a lot of factors that just really made us

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Feel like we were in the twilight zone and

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And or as I call it the mirror universe, you know, it's a good description. Yes

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So as a result

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the things that really helped keep that sanity was art, you know, it's like listen to music we we

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: watch

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody doing

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We'd watch john bon Jovi doing a concert in his living room where he could sell out a stadium and he's doing it for free

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean? We're watching artists do what they can to also keep their art alive

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_04]: But also just keep people entertained while sitting in our little boxes and

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And trying to keep some level of contact with life

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And and you know, it's a beautiful thing. So

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_06]: So any other questions

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_06]: from

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_06]: The trio of us for riko before we thank him for being on the show

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Just want to say this has been a blast. Thank you for coming on the show mr. Anderson pleasure to talk with you and to meet you

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll have you back on again when the san theology thing rolls around

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We'd love to help promote that if we can talk about time travel. Yes

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, look at certain time travel

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Only if you don't never call me mr. Anderson again, okay, or if you're gonna do it do it like it's

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Mr. Anderson

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_06]: All right, yeah go we'll do it that way. All right. Well

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_06]: We'd love to have you thank you so with that well to my

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[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for playing the home game of yet to know

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_06]: A journeyman actor equal points to all members yet for some reason

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I came out last how did that happen? I don't know anyway

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And thank you riko for being a guest on our podcast. I hope you had fun answering our various questions

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_06]: We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors and one day

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[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like a chicken

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_06]: And as always I leave you with these parting words

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