016 - Movie Night

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[00:01:04] Hey, Brandy.

[00:01:06] Hey, Aaron.

[00:01:08] Doing.

[00:01:10] Oh, you know,

[00:01:12] we can't have it.

[00:01:13] Yeah, it's been a hard week.

[00:01:15] It has been a hard week.

[00:01:16] Yeah.

[00:01:17] You know, I kind of knew that was happening.

[00:01:19] So I prepared a list of things that maybe the audience might benefit from.

[00:01:24] Exercise, medication, limited dairy.

[00:01:27] I think more outside the box.

[00:01:32] Yoga, hyperbaric chamber, therapeutic coloring books, interstellar shopping.

[00:01:38] Okay, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, we don't need to end list list of activities.

[00:01:43] No, no, no.

[00:01:45] Okay, I broke on that one.

[00:01:47] We are referring, of course, to this week's episode of Discovery, where Saroo consulted the computer

[00:01:54] to help his crew get through some really obvious PTSD.

[00:01:59] So, and that's what we're going to talk about this week.

[00:02:02] Normally, we kind of just pull apart the episode, just go through it systematically.

[00:02:07] This time, we're gonna kind of take a topic and just kind of explore that.

[00:02:11] Mm-hmm.

[00:02:12] Plus other things.

[00:02:14] We do have news.

[00:02:15] And we have the question of the week, which I'm gonna bring up now just so that the chat room can think about it.

[00:02:22] If I can find it, there we go.

[00:02:24] The question of the week is kind of too pronged is like, do you ship Georges or Georges and Linus?

[00:02:29] And do you think that she's up to something bonus points for couple names?

[00:02:36] I don't know.

[00:02:37] I saw one that I think was the winners far as couple names.

[00:02:43] Okay.

[00:02:44] Yeah, we'll go over that.

[00:02:45] There was a couple that are couple.

[00:02:47] There is the two of them that were repeated.

[00:02:49] There was a couple of couple names.

[00:02:52] For historical research, if you're ever going back and listening to this podcast, this is just an hour or two after a historic election has been called and we're just a little loopy.

[00:03:04] She's just.

[00:03:05] PTSD.

[00:03:06] It actually, this is very relevant to what's happening right now in some ways.

[00:03:09] Yeah, because I think we've all had PTSD for the last four years.

[00:03:14] I would be safe to say that probably the majority of our listeners are not going to be upset by that comment.

[00:03:22] Yeah, well, I'm speaking from a personal experience and I know a lot of people that I know and that listen to us have had that same experience.

[00:03:32] So if you haven't had that experience, yay for you.

[00:03:36] But that doesn't take away from the fact that many other people did.

[00:03:41] Yeah, yep for sure.

[00:03:44] So should we start off with a little bit of fans at news?

[00:03:48] Yes, do it.

[00:03:50] Do it.

[00:03:51] I'm wearing pins.

[00:03:52] I got pins today.

[00:03:54] What are you trying to do?

[00:03:55] You have a.

[00:03:56] My.

[00:03:57] Hoshi.

[00:03:58] No, this is my regular Hoshi.

[00:04:00] This is the women of trek.

[00:04:02] The women of track design.

[00:04:03] Hoshi.

[00:04:04] And my women of track design to Paul.

[00:04:07] I'm like looking over your name, like I can see see better.

[00:04:10] It sounds like I can't really look into your camera.

[00:04:13] I'm sorry would you like me to remove them from my chest and bring them closer?

[00:04:18] Okay.

[00:04:20] It's okay.

[00:04:21] They're not.

[00:04:22] I ground them down and made them into magnetic pins.

[00:04:25] Don't tell anybody that.

[00:04:26] No, no, it's I just I don't like holes in my clothing and yeah.

[00:04:32] I'm just making the me easier to wear for me.

[00:04:37] What I found was really cool is I have other pins, but using the plastic.

[00:04:42] The little rubber backgrounds from the fans at pins actually improves those pins.

[00:04:47] So I pulled them off and like, oh hey now I you know they stay so much better that way.

[00:04:52] The metal ones that you have to like kind of close and then they sort of open up again.

[00:04:57] No, it doesn't work really well.

[00:04:58] I'm wearing Mariner.

[00:05:00] I wore Mariner yesterday.

[00:05:02] It seems like the Mariner kind of day.

[00:05:04] Yeah, I made a picture of Mariner pointing to the electoral map.

[00:05:10] From from the episode what was it?

[00:05:13] It keeps her air and arrow where she was on her board of craziness of like maybe she's her cadacinus by no, no, no,

[00:05:19] no, bear with me a sulabon right sulabon.

[00:05:24] Yeah, that was that was boy and girls look like you're a crazy lady.

[00:05:29] Yeah, I miss that show already.

[00:05:32] You know, just go back and watch it.

[00:05:35] I'm actually yeah, I'm loving what's happening with discovery, but I'm also like it feels like there should just continue to be

[00:05:40] be lower decks as it goes along.

[00:05:43] It just nonstop lower decks.

[00:05:46] Yeah, but yeah, sorry no, I got myself off track.

[00:05:50] But for the fans at pins we have a new releases for November, which is pretty cool.

[00:05:55] We've got the Picard family crest.

[00:05:58] We have Hugh from Picard and the USS Serritos speaking of lower decks.

[00:06:03] So yay, and if you are audience member, you get a 15% discount by using the discount code infinite trek all on word.

[00:06:14] Yes.

[00:06:16] They also wanted us to let everybody know that I know that there's been some orders for the I guess the Voyager 20th anniversary pin and 20th, 24, 25th, 25th.

[00:06:26] Yeah, the 24th anniversary.

[00:06:28] Why would they do that? Yes, the 25th at that because of COVID and everything happening with post office, everything's just a little bit behind so bear with them.

[00:06:39] It's on its way.

[00:06:41] It's not fallen into a void somewhere.

[00:06:44] No, and I know firsthand how quickly they ship stuff out because the last year that I placed, I was getting like within two hours.

[00:06:52] I had notification that they had sent it to the post office.

[00:06:56] So yeah, it's there.

[00:07:00] They're really good at that.

[00:07:01] So what happens after it goes to the post office?

[00:07:03] That's not really on them.

[00:07:05] They're doing the best they can.

[00:07:08] Yeah.

[00:07:09] Oh, and then one of them in the chat room, mag 10 mag, I think that's how you say that who's also a non ready room viewer.

[00:07:17] Yes.

[00:07:18] I had mentioned fan set emojis and yeah there are these fan set emoji pins coming as well.

[00:07:23] Those are all the I believe they're the emojis that they use to create the Twitter.

[00:07:28] I believe you're correct.

[00:07:29] Has tags that do not have the animated series anywhere in them.

[00:07:33] Anyway.

[00:07:36] I know those are going to be true.

[00:07:38] Yeah, I'm a one track.

[00:07:41] No, no, you don't have that's not the case.

[00:07:44] They were slighted and you have every right to bring that up at every opportunity.

[00:07:50] So those are going to be turned into pins as well.

[00:07:53] And I don't know what date those are coming out.

[00:07:55] Ah, and I think the one that that we're speaking of again of lower decks because that seems to be an endless supply now of fan set stuff is that we have

[00:08:05] a lot of fan set stuff that we have.

[00:08:07] So I think that's what we're talking about.

[00:08:10] For Christmas coming the holiday badgy.

[00:08:15] I love it.

[00:08:16] Yeah, it's kind of perfect for 2020 is the scary holiday badgy.

[00:08:21] I'm really hoping that means that we're eventually going to get the pre load or the loading badgy where it's just the frozen look on the face and the

[00:08:29] look at them try.

[00:08:32] Wow, yeah, that was great.

[00:08:36] Badgy's turned into a really kind of amazing like just character meme or something you can use to kind of express a lot of things.

[00:08:46] So many.

[00:08:47] Yeah.

[00:08:48] So many things on just all parts of the spectrum just.

[00:08:54] Yeah.

[00:08:55] There is a badgy for every occasion.

[00:08:58] There really is.

[00:08:59] Yeah, murderous badgy there's happy badgy.

[00:09:03] So yeah, frozen badgy.

[00:09:05] There's a frozen badgy will have a holiday badgy out.

[00:09:09] Yeah, no, I think it's really fun that you can kind of pick it, you know, create anything you want out of it.

[00:09:18] I think also somebody, I don't think this is a real pin by somebody make it make badgy look as if it was an actual like the metallic badge from starfleet like wearing it on their.

[00:09:28] Like it's interesting but it's just also creepy at the same time.

[00:09:32] Yes, I did see that and I was just.

[00:09:37] I was I was enthralled and creeped out at the same time which is one feeling.

[00:09:43] That well that's interesting because it's a lot of what discovery is in some ways to show, but I mean the characters are going through it's like it's like amazing and scary at the same time.

[00:09:56] Oh, and if we're on the badge track, I'll just something about this week's discovery that I woke up to the next morning.

[00:10:04] There are two things they're the badge that tall where Admiral tall had that we saw in the scene where all of Adira's past hosts were presented.

[00:10:16] Yes, which is also a really emotional scene and also we realized that she's that's a pretty long live trill because we see a Picard area uniform so that's that's you know more than the 500 plus years that we've kind of heard that trills lived to.

[00:10:33] But he was wearing a badge that look really familiar when we were trying to guess what the Picard badge might look like I did a infographic for trek movie and I created this badge.

[00:10:47] And nearly the same badge is on the admiral with very little tweaks and color but I don't know if the color really is indicative because everything was very blue in that scene.

[00:10:59] But yeah, so that was that was interesting because I woke up it's like hey they use your badge congratulations and like I didn't get any credit for that.

[00:11:09] The other thing is I was asked if my spots were itching basically Adira's backstory is really really really really similar to my improv characters backstory.

[00:11:22] So that's where my ability to be objective about this might be a little skewed so I'm putting that out there before we start just because it's sort of like I feel like I've lived this this kind of backstory for a year when I was playing this character.

[00:11:38] So yeah, it's interesting.

[00:11:41] Yeah, well I remember way back like weeks and weeks ago you're talking about how Romulan whiskey was also a thing that we have.

[00:11:53] We have Romulan whiskey in night shift.

[00:11:56] No, we have had discovery writers in the audience I am not saying that they know no we're not inferring that it's just it's hard to ignore the similarities.

[00:12:11] We were saying that it's what happens when you you try to create a show using the same basic you know stew of backs back information 54 years of of canon.

[00:12:26] And those people are living through the same kind of lives we're living through right now I think it's just all these things sort of come together and it's just like okay what hasn't been done what can we do.

[00:12:35] It's really interesting I think it gives me a better perspective also on what you can do with that character because it was a really interesting backstory it was very hard to express in a story that isn't like scripted because you it's hard to just randomly bring up that oh my husband.

[00:12:54] I'm going to say my wife put the trail inside of me and you know he's dead and now I have all of his memories and it's like he's here with me all the time.

[00:13:02] And I'm seeing arguments from the other viewpoint which that's what the part I really wanted to play with where it's sort of you know you start to get you you know how much that person loves you but you also know how much like they might irritate you or you have irritating you might be to them from their viewpoint because you have all those memories.

[00:13:19] I think that would be very you know it's it basically caused a lot of.

[00:13:25] It's just kind of uncertainty in the character for the way I played it so it was interesting and so I'm really curious to see how it plays out with Adira and a Gray.

[00:13:38] Yes, that is going to be interesting it's also this very new thing that.

[00:13:44] Like a memory it's like Gray is there with her it's like six from seven no is six from.

[00:13:51] It was six from the black like no seven of nine no that's not right yeah yeah definitely six yeah so it's that sort of or let's see if we can quantum leap.

[00:14:04] Yeah what is wrong.

[00:14:07] Dean is talk about character yes yeah who why can't I think it was neither somebody in the chat help help help.

[00:14:15] Thank you oh my goodness I'm ashamed of myself for not remembering that.

[00:14:24] I have to turn my credit now.

[00:14:27] No, I did the same thing though so it's weird how you will use something the name like all the time and then when you go to access it that's when you can't remember it.

[00:14:38] Exactly I would be curious to see what that scientific reasoning is there must be some sort of neurochemical reason for why that happens because it's not just you and me it happens to everybody.

[00:14:49] It does I just determined that my brain is like a hard drive and it is full and sometimes files get get corrupted and so I get this 404 file not found when I try to access something that I know is in there but I can't find it.

[00:15:06] And then I have to open the file directory and go through it line by line and I'm just kidding.

[00:15:13] Yeah I could.

[00:15:14] I know that would be fantastic it's like being able to like oh 16 stands is the right way they should never don't need that anymore.

[00:15:22] Almost McCoy in the chat runs as a fragmented you need to defragment yes if I did me for a guy would use I feel like a fragmented hard drive more times than I can count yeah that is really app description.

[00:15:35] Absolutely yeah I think social media and just the way everything is there's no time to process anything anymore I think that sort of.

[00:15:42] Adds to all that like even with with these episodes in our shows it's just like oh my god it's Friday I got to get everything together and it's Saturday now we're doing the show is just like.

[00:15:52] I would love to absorb some of this a little bit more sometimes I am not trashing the ancient Mariner guys I just don't need to remember those 16 stands is that I memorized at the age of 13 for my AP English class I don't need that anymore I could be using that space for something out.

[00:16:11] Well if you could offload it and just save it and then you could bring you know just swap like if there were USB drives that I could just plug in.

[00:16:21] And just off load.

[00:16:26] It could be like the doctor to where he can install an uninstall separate teams or whatever he can like oh I'm just sending you off and we have to compress your data stream so you can't sing.

[00:16:38] Oh speaking of compressed data streams it would not be an episode of infinite trek without brandy freezing.

[00:16:45] She's she actually looks slightly terrified oh no alright well I will continue on a little bit without brandy and we'll hopefully she will be back so yeah so this up there she is.

[00:16:58] When the show if I didn't freeze at least once I know can you hear when that happens most of the time or is it well I have like a few seconds and then it's just nothing.

[00:17:13] Yeah well maybe one day they will come out and fix that wire.

[00:17:17] Is it it's like on the street side right yeah it has to be because there's nothing that has changed internally there's only one place where the router can possibly be and that's here in the bed.

[00:17:27] Like for me yeah so it's not a matter of distance from that okay I've already checked that part of it thank you.

[00:17:37] Yeah we switched this morning I was actually happy that why was live we we got a new we got I got an email it's like you're getting a new cable modem like all right and then on every web page we pulled up spectrum had a notice somehow which I didn't know they could do that.

[00:17:55] It was just like you're going to get a new cable modem and you need to install it or you won't have internet all right and then I got three phone calls and like okay get it like finally and arrive yesterday so we want to go set it up this morning and.

[00:18:11] I logged in like nine times using the thing that I'm supposed to log in with and didn't work so we had to call and get a live person to to authorize it because you apparently have to.

[00:18:22] With the modem it can't just use any modem they have to like allow it on the network but it does seem like things are much faster now though so wonderful yeah wonderful i'm happy for you.

[00:18:35] And I'm even using a new camera today because I have a new iMac and which i'm very happy because I've not had a new computer in like five years which sounds like not a lot of time but it's a lot of time and computer years yeah yeah.

[00:18:51] But the images are really clear and really nice i just noticed that it's like it just looks slightly different so it's interesting and i'm growing my beard out so i'm also like scruffy.

[00:19:03] That's okay i like scruffy ask my husband he'll tell you.

[00:19:10] Do you need a room?

[00:19:13] A chat room?

[00:19:15] Later I don't have time right now i'm doing this.

[00:19:19] So should we dive into kind of the meat of what we were talking about with the you know explain a little bit about what was happening on the show and that fantastic dinner scene.

[00:19:31] Wow we have had dinners like that at my house yeah so with discovery we are now everybody's we'll open up with Dr. Culber basically giving a voice over which is nice to kind of get his yeah to get the viewpoint.

[00:19:45] And we're setting the scene that things are kind of moving into a stasis but people are not all right things are still not great.

[00:19:55] And the little bit that we joke about at the beginning, Ceru knows this and asks the computer for you know hey i need to heal my crew i need some suggestions because they don't have a ships counselor that's that's you know 120 years in their future whatever 110 90.

[00:20:13] Yes yes yes yes let's just say i'm sure it wasn't i can't believe that tng was the first counselor on a ship they would have made more of a big deal about that.

[00:20:24] But you know if and though this is also we get an interesting plot point um the computer halfway through you know as he's like i don't need an endless list of activities.

[00:20:35] The voice changes and we start to get Zora which is the computer that we had in the short tracks clip so when the at the enterprise when discovery is just sitting parked in a what an interstellar cloud or I can remember it was like yeah.

[00:20:54] Yeah empty so was that AI and we learn or at least that's Ceru's assumption is that this is from the cloud from the sphere data that it's sort of they protected it it's protecting them by basically becoming you know this sort of artificial intelligence and the thing and Zora suggests that they watch buster Keaton movies which I thought was an interesting like I don't.

[00:21:22] I don't okay to me there's i think that it's humor and that is really subjective so.

[00:21:30] Yeah but apparently it was like everybody loves this thing.

[00:21:34] I think it's more like there's so we have to look at it like this I mean I know this is a show made in our time but we have to kind of put ourselves in the viewpoints of people who are in the future and don't really have the experience with these things that we currently do yeah so.

[00:21:54] I feel like that's a way that's something that they've never experienced before right so yeah i think that was what Zora was trying to do is shake him up a little.

[00:22:05] There was a web series called the red shirt diaries which was this really funny thing with Ashley Victoria Robinson she was an and send and she she went through every episode of TOS with them but it was from her viewpoint so the episode where they went back in time to the 1960s.

[00:22:24] It was just her watching television so it's like all these TV it was so good you know there's this like they had.

[00:22:34] Yeah I love Lucy it's like it's like this is so weird and then Lucy would say something it's like oh my gosh that's really funny and so like the entire crew is just inside her cabin watching the watching but Nancy and it's like hey guys we're about to.

[00:22:54] Shot around the sun I think we're all going to die it's like.

[00:22:59] Like I want to watch little Joe and then the very like the end scene was her and Rand watching I dream of Jeannie oh no so that was in it she looks like she doesn't have a belly button I wonder if she's some part of some omnipotent race.

[00:23:16] And yeah in the very end they watched doctor who.

[00:23:20] His first transformation like so his face is different but he's the same person.

[00:23:29] So I love that they did that viewpoint of it so in that way you know there those are people who would never seen these shows they don't know what this is about so it's weird and funny to them too they had Mr. Ed like there's a talking horse like that's the best actor I've ever seen.

[00:23:46] Very very well written to it's a comedic but I can see yeah something that has there's no you can watch these movies with no language because there's no there's no it's all body humor and also weird because the street that is you see in there is I think Highland it's like it's a street not far from for we are so it's weird to see like 19 teens I guess 20s.

[00:24:13] And he's like I'm sure he's sort of said yeah so but so he does that and also the ship the ship recommends going on autopilot which is funny like okay Zora take over and giving the crew the night off basically and Saru seems shocked by that which I thought was interesting because don't they ever do that.

[00:24:37] I'm not the whole ship at one time it seems like I don't know if that had happened to me I wouldn't be like okay let's go find starfleet immediately get a mission it would just be like can we just you know we've gone 900 and something years into the future let's take a weekend you know I think he is a little bit tone deaf in some sense to that too.

[00:25:03] Yeah he's he's been through a kind of trauma that nobody else can understand true and so I think he has a better

[00:25:12] good one. Yeah I think oh you mean his back in his own yeah in his own past and with Vahara and finding out yeah they they have singular

[00:25:24] experiences that no one else can truly understand except in the case of Culber I think that Adira is going

[00:25:32] to have some deep understanding of that so yeah but I just I feel like he's it's not so much that he's tone deaf it's just

[00:25:46] he's putting he's putting pressure on himself to be the best captain possible and I think his reaction

[00:25:55] was more taken aback of oh I should have thought of that I should have thought of that I shouldn't have

[00:26:00] to have a computer tell me yeah and so he's he's learning just like everybody else he's learning how to be

[00:26:10] in the future not knowing exactly where the federation or starfleet are not knowing what to expect not

[00:26:17] even knowing how much of the federation still exists I mean there are all these unknowns so many unknowns

[00:26:24] and she's always focusing on that next thing and so it took the computer to go hey dummy

[00:26:32] why don't you give some people a night off like everybody the night off how about that I also wonder

[00:26:36] how much in his past you know up until he he changed he was terrified of everything because that was

[00:26:43] how they yeah some of that has to have sunk into your not just your chemistry your biochemistry

[00:26:50] like even if that's changed you still have those memories there's what's what's the difference between

[00:26:54] what's learned and what's biological and there's probably some learned behavior in there so I mean

[00:27:00] yeah given all that he actually kind of bounced back incredibly well

[00:27:06] I think so too and you know this thought occurred to me the other day and I don't know why

[00:27:10] it shouldn't have occurred to me sooner but having Sru as a captain is monumental because we have

[00:27:18] never had a non-human captain yep in a series that is a main character in the series like screen

[00:27:26] somewhere yeah yeah yeah there's never been the captain of the ship in the series yeah first

[00:27:32] non-human in the chat room like you know so Rue is a new type of captain so yeah

[00:27:37] absolutely and I love that I I wonder why it took this long but I love it

[00:27:45] like five years ago I think it was like five years ago we made a fake like MCU and extended

[00:27:51] Star Trek universe and we had one show that was set after the Romulan Sun had exploded

[00:27:58] and it was exploring the beta quadrant because now all of this was open when there's no you know

[00:28:02] neutral zone whoever and it was it was reported to have because we rewrote it as if it was like

[00:28:07] an entertainment company do you know like either entertainment or something like this is what we

[00:28:12] guess is going to be happening that it's rumored to have the first alien captain so you know

[00:28:20] and that was actually I think that was this year or the year before it was around this time so

[00:28:25] a lot of the points were things that we hit which is kind of fun we had a whole series that was

[00:28:30] the Mirror universe which we kind of got in the first season of discovery yeah I'm just

[00:28:39] we messed the PNG reboot though that did not happen yeah kind of but it's not this was the idea was

[00:28:46] like if you have the Kelvin universe reboot then they also replay what would the next generation be

[00:28:50] in that universe so I don't need to know that no no I know that's the thing I just that's not

[00:29:00] something I need to know no no yeah I just love that the room is the captain yeah love it

[00:29:07] and I love that at the growth that Michael has had over the last year it's like yeah no you'd

[00:29:14] be the captain because I could have seen you know they were they were fighting for that position

[00:29:20] the first officer even just you know on the Shenzhou yes they were but I don't think that

[00:29:26] that was the relationship they had after Burnham had been sent to prison and then brought on to

[00:29:33] discovery I don't think there was that competition any yeah so I think it's like to see that

[00:29:41] there wasn't yeah and she was really supportive of him which is kind of cool that you see how much

[00:29:47] their relationship has changed yes they're they're they're family everyone's family now and that's

[00:29:54] what's great about this because it feel it's there's some parallels to Voyager because

[00:29:59] yes duck in the middle of nowhere or you know time or space and they only have themselves to rely on

[00:30:07] and so and I know that people are like wow this is what Voyager could have been but for the time

[00:30:13] and what it was I still I don't know Voyager to me is a fan they felt like a family these people felt

[00:30:18] like they did you know and no it's not the same level of exploration of PTSD and you know loss

[00:30:28] and all that but we got bits and pieces of that Voyager for the time period that it came out it was

[00:30:33] pretty good you know Janeway locked herself in her in her quarters for like months at a time

[00:30:39] like it was an episode that stretched out around months maybe yeah at least a month or two just going

[00:30:45] through major depression so yes in today's show or today's world that probably would have been yeah

[00:30:52] the void that probably would have been explored a little bit more realistically but you know I

[00:31:01] I give them credit for what they did when they did it I agree and I think that honestly had

[00:31:07] the showrunners had full control yeah we would have seen that yeah but they didn't have full control

[00:31:14] no the network wanted png part two yes they did that's that's what they wanted and I really just feel

[00:31:22] that in the in the night was the episode oh yes yeah it's uh I just really feel like

[00:31:28] that was a disservice done to that show and don't get me wrong I love Voyager I'm loving rewatching

[00:31:33] it with the delt flyers and in fact I'm so many episodes ahead because I just kept I would just

[00:31:38] like oh it's I finished that episode I'll just watch this next one and I'll have a sudden I'd

[00:31:43] watch ten episodes over the weekend while doing that's what happened when I reviewed Revolge

[00:31:47] in for Halloween episode it was just like oh I'm just gonna keep watching this like oh wait I

[00:31:52] watch mine episodes now I should probably go do something else yeah it's you know don't don't

[00:31:57] crap on Voyager peeps because it is a solid show and it has like very deep place in the heart

[00:32:03] just like all of those shows do that gives people who don't might not necessarily have an intro

[00:32:08] into discovery kind of a bit of a like oh I like Voyager maybe I'll like this or try it out so

[00:32:15] yeah so but and then the computer basically also suggests that they have like a family gathering

[00:32:22] a dinner and my family but you know all the people that you hold dear bridge group bridge crew

[00:32:28] yeah basically like the main just assemble the main cast

[00:32:33] and the people that you know are in the credits after too yeah just because they're not in the

[00:32:39] main cast doesn't mean right now but I really agree with it don't don't have anybody who's just a

[00:32:43] hallway person we always go to the United Federation of Hall walkers the UFH

[00:32:51] they had like had a union and everything oh yeah usually when I see someone like that I'm like

[00:32:58] friend of the producer yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh friend of the producer I'm sure that

[00:33:05] that's not really the case probably not no they are really you have a consistent background set

[00:33:12] of people like it's kind of right and did you notice that they let's like lower decks they have

[00:33:16] a couple older people so that was really refreshing because I don't know if we even saw that before

[00:33:21] so much but there's hope for me yet but there's hope for me too yeah I think they were both older than

[00:33:27] we were there we go then we we're in we're in it look really good for our age which might be also

[00:33:34] you know I think I look fabulous for my age yes I did have somebody like you're not 50 I'm

[00:33:40] I am 50 yes and and I'm 47 why would I lie about that what I want to make it go

[00:33:48] actually funny story Catherine Tate would always tell people that she was older than she was

[00:33:52] so that people would say oh wow you look amazing

[00:34:00] yep yeah I have got a good idea never thought about that so I'm just gonna start telling people

[00:34:05] 160 yeah great okay wow you look fantastic my I look fantastic for 47 let's be honest

[00:34:18] no you do yes you can't you want the people you want the people you people on the audio

[00:34:24] podcast you cannot see Brandy are missing out yes well the vampires have it right stay out of

[00:34:29] the sun looking forever yes that's true I don't I I can't actually go out in the sun much because

[00:34:36] of the the transplant medications I have make it really easy to who have skin issues like

[00:34:43] and there's a specific medication I take that if I'm in direct sunlight for too long I must be

[00:34:48] what like a vampire feels like I just starts getting like really prickly and it like hurts

[00:34:52] and just like oh good I'm going to burst into flames or something maybe I'm a vampire yeah that's

[00:34:57] what would happen to me if I went out without sunblock or completely covered up I would burst into

[00:35:01] flames okay I'm not I'm not a vampire I'm just really really fair skinned yeah as I'm glad older

[00:35:09] people are included seniors are useful as crew members oh crew oh the seniors as useful crew members

[00:35:15] are the last frontier yes oh and you got Brandy you are luminous thank you I try so hard I don't

[00:35:26] really try that hard I just stay out of the sun guys and moisturize that's what I do

[00:35:33] do we want to talk about the dinner do you want to kind of go over how that that went because I

[00:35:36] think that's a really good starting off point for how they finally broke the ice of everything kind

[00:35:41] of yes yes I kind of felt like this was going to be a bomb that was about to go off and I was not

[00:35:50] disappointed I and I thought that it was necessary it's necessary to get these things out in the open

[00:35:57] and if people aren't gonna just come out and say it then they need that little prod and that's

[00:36:02] what this dinner became and I know that Suru didn't intend it that way nor did Culber you know

[00:36:08] because he said that he he already advised Suru that everybody's fine physically but they're not

[00:36:13] healthy they're not right you know how could anyone be okay after what they gone through yeah so

[00:36:20] yeah I think it was only badly written characters would be fine exactly yeah no it was just it

[00:36:33] was a powder cake that needed to be set off so that you could clean up so it could that's

[00:36:40] what was a need to catharsis for them all yeah exactly catharsis is the absolute correct word

[00:36:46] they needed to get things out in the open and they needed to understand things about themselves and

[00:36:50] I personally know exactly what that feels like to be that powder cake and then have it suddenly

[00:36:58] explode so this was necessary and I appreciated that they went there yeah yeah they it was super

[00:37:09] uncomfortable and watching it also if you've ever been through anything like that was just a little

[00:37:15] bit a little bit dramatic itself because it's just it you know as as Tilly later says like this is

[00:37:21] every Tuesday at my house that is how our family dinners and and thanksgivings and Christmases

[00:37:28] and anything else that where people got together was basically like that so there was a little bit of

[00:37:33] like you know I definitely empathize with them unfortunately I don't think our family ever got to

[00:37:39] the point where they got the catharsis and then passed it so I think that would just still happen

[00:37:44] if everybody got together still so it is nice to see people reaching for something and actually

[00:37:53] succeeding in helping you know and like they said at the end of the episode they're not all fine now

[00:38:00] there's still like this was just the beginning but at least that that Dan has been broken and it's

[00:38:07] moving forward to make fun metaphors and that is all because of one doctor Hugh Colbert

[00:38:16] because he recognized this I love him so much I love him in this episode just so wise and caring

[00:38:25] and funny at the same time yes and just just the ultimate it's like he's the best he's ever been

[00:38:32] and I'm loving it well I'm happy that we we got something from his viewpoint this was this is

[00:38:37] something that I had as a a bone of contention early in discovery is that everything that we knew

[00:38:44] about Hugh Colbert was from Stamets' viewpoint he would they would be talking together

[00:38:51] and he and Stamets would explain how he felt and I'm just like if I in real life I'd be like let

[00:38:57] your husband talk you know it's like he does have a voice he's able to express himself

[00:39:03] you know it's because at one point like we knew that he didn't like opera he brushed his teeth

[00:39:11] and he was a doctor I'm like those are the three things I know about Hugh Colbert loves opera it's

[00:39:17] Stamets it doesn't love opera oh sorry yes you're right yeah but reverse yeah except now Stamets loves

[00:39:24] Cassilian opera yes so it's nice to see him expressing a viewpoint and and see some of that like

[00:39:33] he's passed some of the trauma of being dead and brought back to life um and he's actually expressing

[00:39:42] some joy and and you just see like oh this is what he feels what it seems like when he can be himself

[00:39:48] and there's not all these other things layered on top of which is interesting because

[00:39:52] he's going through the same thing everybody else is but I think because he's

[00:39:56] literally been dead there's not much you can do to top that so yeah he's developed some coping

[00:40:01] coping mechanisms absolutely he has figured it out he's he's figured himself out and so he knows

[00:40:09] what he has to do to cope and you can I think that that is what makes him so vital

[00:40:19] to this crew right now is that he's been through what he's been through and he's dealt with it

[00:40:24] and he's made a choice and now he can be even more empathetic to everyone around him and what they're

[00:40:32] going through and help them through that and help them find that way because the way through it is

[00:40:38] never going to be the same for every person so yeah uh Maggie Greg in the chat was like I wonder if

[00:40:46] us viewers need that catharsis as well that is why this episode is so well timed it's it's just

[00:40:53] insanely it's uncanny yeah it's just like really so crazy because everything's lining up

[00:41:00] it wasn't supposed to be on at this time of year no that's the craziest part is that it wasn't

[00:41:06] supposed to be there actually it's really well as well there's just there's so many things that are

[00:41:11] just lining up like crazy oh yeah guys you guys the things we can't talk about

[00:41:19] there there are there are things there are things and stuff and stuff and things yeah

[00:41:30] I have a pin that says I do my best work under NDA

[00:41:32] okay just wear that uh but yeah so it's it's really great to see that and where did my brain go

[00:41:41] oh go I like I had a thread um culber oh the fact that no the fact that he everybody was talking

[00:41:48] about debtmer oh no she's under control I'm like she's under control she has PTSD no one's noticing

[00:41:54] it like people are noticing it but there are so many other things happening they have to get to a

[00:41:59] point where they can stop and deal with it and that is this episode I just wish people sometimes would

[00:42:04] I mean you even say that to me though but you know like just hey wait it's a story let's see what

[00:42:09] happens um but yeah sometimes it's watching Star Trek in this mode especially after watching

[00:42:17] lower decks where it was more like TNG it's hard to sometimes shift gears into it's not episodic

[00:42:25] not everything is wrapped up in the same episode so but there's also a real opportunity there to do

[00:42:31] what they're doing now which is just layout things and yeah um but I just love when he talks with

[00:42:38] her and it's like you know it's like are you okay and she's just like no you know yeah I'm not

[00:42:45] and it just took a lot for her to say that unlike the fact that she's this macho pilot which I thought

[00:42:50] was great or they bring that up you know we're not used to to being vulnerable uh but just the fact

[00:42:57] that he was able to bring that out with her which is great because she wasn't gonna do that like even

[00:43:02] with a woe should couldn't she was I'm fine I'm fine I'm fine fine you know so yeah I love when

[00:43:09] the computer's like please come to the uh the shuttle bay for a surprise um just look on their faces

[00:43:16] like what yeah but yeah so that was I love that but you know it all came to a head at that dinner where

[00:43:29] they're there and this is kind of what I was talking about earlier everybody's kind of having

[00:43:33] a little bit of fun they're they're doing these uh limb ricks not the ricks um uh hi kuz hi kuz

[00:43:41] yeah which started but was george oh or I cannot say her last name for some reason today it's okay

[00:43:48] george oh yeah uh philipo how about that uh yep i'm just gonna call her by her first name and i'm sure

[00:43:55] she wouldn't kill me if i was in her presence so sure she wouldn't yeah well she's there with

[00:44:02] Linus too this is part of our our question of like do you shoot them they seems like there's something

[00:44:07] going on and did you catch the look when he went to eat whatever that like shell creature was

[00:44:14] and her eyes just got really big and just sort of like I don't know what that was that was like

[00:44:19] admiration or like it wasn't like discussed it was just like a little shock i don't know what

[00:44:25] but that was about it was an interesting look that's why that that relationship whatever it is

[00:44:30] so interesting um maybe she'd just never seen a meat before maybe

[00:44:39] maybe she's only seen maybe she's only eaten people with the gants

[00:44:44] maybe she wanted she was shocked at how long his tongue was i don't know

[00:44:51] okay moving on no we did have the conversation no it's like is this a you know sexual play thing kind of

[00:45:00] relationship and we don't know there's just you know and and you had the question if I

[00:45:06] guess that even possible but i'm i think that it's Star Trek that's i'm not gonna say it's not

[00:45:12] possible yeah i'm just saying it's not gonna be in the traditional way right because Linus was hatched

[00:45:21] so don't know how all of that stuff how the hardware works works and where it is

[00:45:29] yeah i don't know i'm sure there's a technical manual somewhere we can get

[00:45:35] yeah these are the things i wonder i still until recently they were background people in the

[00:45:41] motion picture at like occasionally right it's like so the best picture we had was like the costume

[00:45:47] fitting and they looked a little different you know just the school come but yeah and then we had

[00:45:53] we saw one sorian in lower decks which was the first officer on the Titan but just not saying anything

[00:46:00] just there um so that's been their their role so far it's just been to be in the background and so

[00:46:06] this is the first time we've had any kind of uh contact with a speaking sorian uh justice for sorians

[00:46:14] yeah so they're doing these high coups and you know they like hey deathmur you do one she's like no

[00:46:20] no but like they push her to do it which is like that's where they were like you're not seeing the

[00:46:26] things that you should be because it's like you should realize that she's just not in a good place

[00:46:32] and she goes into this really dark place of stammance's blood being all over the

[00:46:40] the what was it the shuttle bay what was it or was it i don't know whatever corridor in which

[00:46:47] you're not being able to get that pain yeah yeah not being able to get the blood out and she's like no

[00:46:51] no no no no let me get it and she would go back and she could try to get the high coup right but like

[00:46:55] tweaking it every time and it just got more and more just distressful and then she just basically

[00:47:02] then they yell at each other about who's more important which was that was a weird ending to that

[00:47:07] to me but um no i get that because they both the thing is is that they're both important and they both

[00:47:15] have the knowledge of what it feels like to have the entire complement of the crew in their hands

[00:47:23] so they were instead of commiserating they were you know doing a well i hurt more

[00:47:32] yes and i was gonna say i've had friends like that where it's just like you know they ask you how

[00:47:36] you're doing and say i'm pretty good i had a little bit of a you know or whatever you know and then

[00:47:40] they will up it like oh well i had blah blah blah i was like i'm not trying to outdo whose pain is

[00:47:46] worse we're just sharing you know yeah pain is pain that's all there is to it five seven five that's

[00:47:54] the high coup yeah well you know i learned about high coups when i was in creative writing in my

[00:47:58] sophomore year of high school and the original traditional uh high coup is not just five seven five

[00:48:06] it is those amount of syllables but it was always about nature it was always from the third person

[00:48:13] it was always observational sonry's on the other hand still have the five seven five

[00:48:19] composition but they can be about anything most often about people so people just think oh it's a

[00:48:26] high coup it's just five syllables seven syllables five syllables no there's more to it than that

[00:48:30] but nobody ever shows that anymore high coup corner brought to you by brandy you're welcome

[00:48:36] oh and we also have our head cannon quarter or corner that we want to talk about too at the end

[00:48:42] yes so but uh i just just the whole the catharsis then you know that happens and

[00:48:49] and everybody realizes everyone's hurting and then when they gather everybody in the main

[00:48:56] shovel bay they're watching buster keaton everybody's like you know i just love you you see Kayla come

[00:49:01] up to um to stammits and there's just this staring for half a second you don't know what's going

[00:49:09] to happen and the stammits just comes over and just embraces her and and hugs her and

[00:49:16] and it was just uh you know a really pretty moment

[00:49:22] i'm sure that what you said what yeah i'm sure that what you said was absolutely correct

[00:49:26] just that uh the the wonderful moment between stammits and uh Kayla when you walk into the shuttle bay

[00:49:33] and it looks like you don't know what's going to happen i mean they just you know

[00:49:37] and it's you can just see her lighten which i think was fantastic which is just it was just really

[00:49:43] beautiful and then culber and saru watching over everybody and it's like you know how joy is filling

[00:49:49] the room and that you know we're not we're not there yet but we're at least on our way to getting better

[00:49:55] and we also had to have the moment with linus and and philippa at that point too where he walks

[00:50:00] over with the the popcorn that's uh the branded the branded popcorn yeah yeah that we saw in

[00:50:06] colipso it has it and she's just like okay there's like all right or something she's just like

[00:50:12] fine yeah she's she's the to Paul in that scene because this is enterprise this is

[00:50:20] enterprise moving right here yep yep yeah and uh she's the person like to Paul who is pretending

[00:50:28] that she isn't enjoying herself when she secretly is oh i i had this question too actually uh

[00:50:35] magten mag i wonder why buster keaton and not charlie chaplain

[00:50:40] and i kind of agree because charlie chaplain is like for me it's like a bigger range of emotion it feels

[00:50:45] like he's you can empathize with that person more than buster keaton seems much more like slapstick

[00:50:51] i think that's what was needed though was slapstick okay something you didn't have to think about

[00:50:56] something you didn't have to have feelings about it was just meant to be funny and that's it

[00:51:04] so i mean if you if you want to do charlie chaplain later on i'm sure that they'll be down for that

[00:51:09] but they needed something that was completely what's the word i'm looking for here superficial

[00:51:14] yeah more superficial to just distract them and to make them laugh i can't be not i can't

[00:51:20] like yeah no that's that's pretty much it just to

[00:51:24] summer movies you're like you know just like yeah um it's a big science fiction uh special effects

[00:51:32] spectacular that has no plot or whatever but you enjoy it you know kind of a thing

[00:51:36] yeah exactly yeah exactly um so yeah so i i and it's just the fact that this came at this moment was

[00:51:44] really interesting because we i think we are all in some ways that crew going through a whole lot

[00:51:51] and you know the between the pandemic and just the divide in our country and everything

[00:51:58] we're all going to take some time to get better and hopefully we're on our way

[00:52:05] so we are i'm sorry i just when i'm this is a total non-sequitur but every time when anyone says

[00:52:13] we're on our way or i'm on my way i start laughing because okay there's a cartoon series

[00:52:19] called the amazing world of gumball some of you may know some of you may not it's an amazing show

[00:52:26] yes it's for kids but there is a lot for adults in there so but there's this episode yeah

[00:52:33] it's all it's all like animals and weird constructs of things so um gumball is a blue rabbit

[00:52:40] and his best friend is a goldfish who evolved to have legs and to be able to speak

[00:52:49] and and his name is Darwin because of but they they didn't have to express yeah basically no

[00:52:59] legs yes and kinsa survive out of water now but there's an episode where they show how gumball

[00:53:07] and Darwin first met when gumball was a young toddler and that uh Darwin actually gets flush

[00:53:13] down the toilet and he has to find his way back to uh to gumball and that's when he evolves to have

[00:53:21] legs where he sings the song where he's like i'm on my way i'm on my way and so anytime anyone says

[00:53:27] anything remotely like that that's going to be a brain sorry i have this is not quite that

[00:53:34] dead detail but there's a web series that i watched it called abandoned which is just about

[00:53:40] abandoned buildings abandoned shows at this point you know they kind of expanded it it's interesting

[00:53:46] he goes abandoned that's how he says it so i was having a conversation with somebody and they were

[00:53:51] just like they felt really bad they they felt abandoned and in my head i hear abandoned and i

[00:53:56] just started chuckling and i'm like no no no i'm not laughing at you i really am not my brain cannot

[00:54:01] disconnect that weird way of saying that and like the explanation was just like okay whatever

[00:54:06] i'll go talk to somebody else and like no no no it didn't mean to do that sometimes you just turn

[00:54:12] thing off in your head it's just like yeah like just me just now can't turn that off ever ever ever

[00:54:20] so you're just saying um should we talk about our head cannon the real quick that we had the idea of

[00:54:26] yes let's do that okay so the the sphere data is basically what we believe is creating this intelligence

[00:54:34] or what sororably isn't it probably is um that's protecting the crew and it's it's a

[00:54:40] it's an artificial intelligence and at some point discovery had to have connected

[00:54:46] to starfleet data somehow so would it be interesting if whatever that little fragment

[00:54:54] that created the the AI in discovery or fragment of that somehow got into starfleet computers which

[00:55:02] would explain why we get the computer in the original or the animated series that comes to light

[00:55:09] the original series where the the computer basically starts coming on to Kirk and has that female

[00:55:14] voice that sort of change in like okay um more yardie there's just like a whole you know uh

[00:55:21] vick fontain there's just a handful or not handful there's a bunch in every series of these

[00:55:29] how is this computer that sentient and why are oh how is it sentient or why is it that intelligent

[00:55:35] it wouldn't be interesting if it was just somehow a fragment of that surviving code living in the

[00:55:42] starfleet network basically yep that's basically what i've had canon to know and that is in my brain

[00:55:49] and it colors my perception of all of things now i don't know if it has anything to do with data

[00:55:55] but it it definitely i know that's the um just um but it it helps me rationalize some of the like really

[00:56:02] you know it's like whoa i mean yes i have to believe also go back and then think that the

[00:56:06] sphere data is real um as an entity but that's more believable of you know thousands of years of

[00:56:14] history of something building up to that the evolution of intelligence rather than just installed a

[00:56:21] holodeck and suddenly this guy walked off of it you know like what you can't just ask the computer to

[00:56:26] make make something that's alive okay you know now create a character create a character that's

[00:56:33] smarter than data that was his mistake smarter than data that's lighter than homes right and they're in

[00:56:41] the debacle began yeah the computer is that smart and stupid at the same time basically

[00:56:49] uh and then our question of the week let's bring that up because that was that was kind of fun this

[00:56:55] is what we've been talking about a little bit off and on to is somewhere on here i'd love this

[00:57:01] interface uh there we go uh do you ship georgeau and linus and do you think that philip is up to

[00:57:08] something bonus points for couple names so did you want to do the couple name first you said that

[00:57:13] you had the one that you were pretty you were really happy with yeah the one that i like best is

[00:57:18] philinus oh that was mine yes oh really okay yeah nobody took the first name so i'm like it's

[00:57:30] linus is assuming i guess that's his first name so yeah i love philinus that's my choice

[00:57:36] nice now i didn't come up with that i mean i'm saying that is my choice for favorite yes

[00:57:41] because i couldn't come up with that i mean i maybe other people have but that's that's what i

[00:57:46] posted um we have lorjou lorjou that's why and then a lot of georgias so it's like georgias

[00:57:59] georgias yes g-e-o-r-g-i-o-u-s so yeah their couple name i think that's great uh so we asked that was

[00:58:10] we question that we asked in camp kittamer which is the trek geeks uh facebook page uh i did not quite

[00:58:17] get it into our discord but there's an outpost thirteenth discord that if you want to have all sorts

[00:58:23] of fun conversations during the week and share memes and animated gifts uh you can can join that

[00:58:30] but anyway so we put that in there and some of the answers we got we got one person who was upset

[00:58:36] that we even asked a shipping question and i was just like really oh yeah it's yes okay it is a little

[00:58:44] on the the cheesy side i suppose i don't know if there's anything fun it's not about it yeah but

[00:58:49] it was fun it was a week that we needed something fun yeah so just just chill out and have some fun

[00:58:57] with the rest of us come play with us yes uh david mager said lineus is a dead sorry in walking

[00:59:04] there's a lot of uh run lineus kind of that yeah jim stoffel lines run away so people are very

[00:59:12] concerned for him uh and ricky klerk says she's always up to something we just don't know what

[00:59:18] which is very true um uh kym morris as i think she used him to spy on the saloon in order to

[00:59:25] assess the situation i don't agree that there's anything more than that like i don't agree with that

[00:59:31] it was like there's something there's something just a relationship if there's something more than that

[00:59:38] there's there's there's at least camaraderie going on there because why else would he come and

[00:59:42] offer or popcorn i mean there's a connection there that went beyond using him to scope out the terrain

[00:59:48] on that unnamed planet that they crashed on near universe sorry and oh no

[00:59:54] oh that would be really dumb i don't think that's what it's gonna be

[01:00:03] lose to have uh lineus is trying george always scheming but i don't think she's disinterested

[01:00:08] is an and of course i ship it that's anacodane agree yeah and i think one of my favorite though

[01:00:15] has to be it's like you remember the old cart this is uh ricky uh ricky terralt tetralt

[01:00:24] tet are a-u-l-t i'm not great with last name apparently um yeah you remember the old cartoons where

[01:00:30] someone was starvane and anyone they looked at became a stake georgeau is calculating how many

[01:00:35] meals she can get out of lineus disagree i do too but it's funny it's funny uh yeah

[01:00:45] yeah i can totally see that uh so i feel like there's something else we were gonna mention

[01:00:54] i don't remember what it is oh i don't i don't know we didn't talk much about a deer oh that's true

[01:01:00] well we're next week this is assuming it all comes through uh we're gonna have jesse gender on

[01:01:05] and i think that might actually be a good time to talk about the deer and and all the things

[01:01:11] that come with that and the fact that we also have a trans and non bear trans bayenary great trans

[01:01:17] binary actors we don't have host that can actually speak but we have actors that are yeah um so she's

[01:01:24] gonna come on and i think it'll be great because we can get her viewpoint as a transgender person

[01:01:28] herself um yes yeah and then i think at that point we can also dive into some of the the war

[01:01:35] the background story and uh i i know that i have personal challenges with one of the actors acting

[01:01:41] the ways or or the way they're they're portraying themselves at the moment um and you and i just

[01:01:47] agree on that front that that's okay no do you want to tell what it is real quick or no no no let's

[01:01:54] make them want to come back for next time yeah call it teaser uh jussie ganglers jussies jussies

[01:02:01] it's a very british saying yes it sounds like something you hear the british bakeoff

[01:02:09] would be surprised yeah uh well and coming up at two o'clock uh pacific on this network which is

[01:02:16] in an hour uh there's the improvised generation on screen and i believe they're going to be doing

[01:02:21] things where they pair off into groups of two people so it'll be interesting to see how you know

[01:02:26] we've got i think dr colbert dr colbert great now i'm gonna i'm bringing discovery people in

[01:02:33] dr scott and nurse colver are going to see i can see how you got confused there yes i think

[01:02:40] are going to pee in an episode by themselves or it's mixed uh i don't know tune in and find out

[01:02:45] what happens and is you can also make your suggestion about what they build the story on so that's

[01:02:51] kind of fun yes because it's improv uh and yeah i think you know just come tune in next week

[01:02:58] that's gonna be a lot of fun to have jessie on and uh ensure that conversation will be nothing

[01:03:05] that we can guess at right now so i'm sorry plus we'll actually talk about next week's episode

[01:03:09] at the same time so yes uh a little bit of a longer episode it will be and that is just fine

[01:03:17] one thing i do want to say before we go is just a reminder saying that you're not okay

[01:03:24] is not weakness it actually takes great strength to admit that you're not okay and it is okay

[01:03:32] to not be okay at the same time if you need help get it there's nothing wrong with that

[01:03:41] we need to destigmatize this whole mess around mental health that you're somehow less than

[01:03:47] because stuff is not working right in your brain you wouldn't be ashamed to go to the doctor

[01:03:53] if you had a broken bone don't be ashamed to go to a doctor for a broken mind yeah

[01:04:02] i'm sorry i can't say it any better than that no that's that's fantastic uh before we leave

[01:04:07] you want to tell people where they can find you where do you find you not everything that

[01:04:12] they can find you on if you want to do it that way brandy i'm sure you if you've listened by now

[01:04:17] you know is very prodigious in her or podcasting uh a bill podcasting i guess that's just what it would be

[01:04:26] yeah i do a lot of stuff and i i chose to do all of it so it's not like i'm being forced into it

[01:04:34] or i'm upset about it but there is a lot of stuff no i love every single thing to do the podcast

[01:04:42] no no no i love it so just follow me on brandy wine 12 and and twitter and that's brandy with an i

[01:04:49] the twelve is a number and you will find out about all the other things i'm doing i do some other

[01:04:54] podcasts another live show besides this one which is on later today at seven p.m. mountain time

[01:04:59] figured out for yourself uh come join us for the unready room where i'll be talking with Dan

[01:05:03] Guthrer about the same episode of discovery and we'll have a completely yeah completely different

[01:05:08] conversation so you know but i will jump i will i will beat on that mental health drum again in

[01:05:16] that one so you will get some repetition there but other than that you know come join us for that

[01:05:20] i love that we have these the the we are able to explore different aspects of the same show with

[01:05:27] different sets of people and we have something we'll be announcing hopefully next week kind of

[01:05:32] along those lines too so stay tuned for a another juicy dangler stay tuned for another special

[01:05:37] announcement uh but yeah no i just and i love that this episode that we were able to dive into one

[01:05:46] specific thing i actually really like that i think that might be something we uh we pick up going

[01:05:51] forward because you can you can tune in and like even uh bill was saying this from trekking since

[01:05:58] we don't need to literally reiterate the entire plot line because that's what we were we were

[01:06:03] diving more and more into that and it was like it was feeling less and less like comfortable and just

[01:06:07] not natural so yeah so i think they were they're supportive of us in like finding a topic and

[01:06:12] because kind of exploring it so yeah this feels good but yeah but this is really good yeah

[01:06:18] it felt really good really organic yeah no it tells organic for sure um i think that's important

[01:06:26] that's what we're like on ready room is this it's it's very organic and it flows and it's just a lot of fun

[01:06:32] indeed oh yeah so so check that out and if you want to find me you can find me on instagram and twitter

[01:06:39] at geekfilter and uh i'm just doing this right now like i said might be announcing some other things

[01:06:46] and watch out post 13 occasionally i pop up on other shows there and uh i was on a whiskey show a

[01:06:52] couple weeks ago and i have whiskey left over so i'm going to use that tonight i think

[01:06:58] celebrate yeah and that's sick oh yeah and at 7 p.m i will be doing the moderation for friend fiction

[01:07:04] which is a show this on every other week where lissette ima shel talk about uh their fan um

[01:07:12] let's sort of looking for the obsession basically they're talking about flea bag this week

[01:07:18] hmm that's the show i have never seen so it'll be interesting i've until now i know everything that

[01:07:22] people are talking about when they talk about uh you know wolverine or lord of the rings or whatever

[01:07:27] so this this will be new interesting but yeah tune in indeed all right well we will see you next week

[01:07:35] and everybody stay safe and and like branny said it's don't don't feel bad about saying you're not okay

[01:07:42] yes it's okay to not be okay yep live long and prosper

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