STAR TREK: PRODIGY Season 1 Retrospective

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[00:01:05] Tonight we are talking about Star Trek Prodigy Season 1 The whole darn thing The entire 20 released non-French language episodes Up to this point, you know the whole thing is Season 1 So, I'm looking forward to talking about that with all of y'all Everything about this is so weird

[00:01:25] TV is really, remember when it used to be like Hey, here comes a new season in the fall And you're gonna get 20 something episodes And it'll run until the spring And then you take off for the summer And then you just, you know, run swash repeat next year

[00:01:37] But I was just thinking, I was like Oh, I guess we need to get used to talking about Season's of Prodigy all at once That's what's gonna be going down soon Yeah, so about that, yeah, July 1st The amount of Prodigy will double

[00:01:49] Like overnight, like at the stroke of midnight It'll just be like, bam, we'll go for 20 to 40 episodes Yeah It's so much, it's so much I mean, how do you, you can't, You can't cover it all in one show You have to Yeah, I don't know

[00:02:05] Unless it's one very, very long show Join us for our 24 hour feed Join us for, join us for the Prodigy slumber party Where we just sit here That would actually not be that bad, it'll be kind of fun It'll just be fun

[00:02:19] I did, I was talking to a friend of mine And he was like, I'm having Star Trek withdrawals And I was like, we're gonna go for Star Trek withdrawals So Star Trek overloads so fast Like Overdose Yeah But you know, it has been a long time

[00:02:32] So I think it is a good opportunity right now And the two weeks we have before the new episodes are here I guess less than two weeks now We do have a good opportunity to Reflect back on season one And remember just how great the show was

[00:02:47] I know because I've had conversations with All of you, but I think we're all big fans Of Prodigy, so I think instead of like going around and saying How do people feel about Prodigy? Do you like it? We all know that we like it, but No

[00:03:03] No, I made that cardboard cut out for no reason Yeah, the mirf that got signed by all the actors That went to a convention in another state Really don't like Prodigy Instead, if everyone just kind of wants to say What was your favorite, you know, contribution

[00:03:17] From Prodigy within its first season? Episodes, characters, you've seen just anything like that That just, you know, especially stood out to you Like Rachel, I know that you got a few Just, I can see on display on camera You're surrounded by some Prodigy love, so

[00:03:33] Obviously I love mirf, mirf is adorable Give me something adorable to hug Or please give me a plus that's not just sold at a New York Comic Con But My rant for another day and flashed several of these streams already I also really love, like other characters

[00:03:50] I really love like, I was like listing all the characters And then I was like listing all of them, so I tried to get it back I really like both versions of Janeway And RawTuck in Zero, and I Think as I'm getting older

[00:04:04] And when I do watch shows that are maybe meant for a younger audience I tend to be drawn towards the more paternal or maternal characters And I'm just like, oh let me take care of these children These babies need to be looked after

[00:04:16] But I really love, because I was thinking about Zero in particular It's like a character that is like, in between Still growing but like a little bit more mature And I like that there are like different maturity levels within the cast

[00:04:27] Yeah, that's true, I never thought of that I guess like, depending on the scene Mirf or Janko Pog might be like the baby Zero maybe is like the oldest kid Yeah, Zero is always reminding me of like Not, obviously Zero doesn't have a gender

[00:04:42] But like the oldest daughter syndrome of like I will take care of these younger kids Whether I want to or not Yes, whether I want to or not But I really liked seeing Real Janeway where it was like

[00:04:54] They eventually get to know that like, oh Real Janeway is cool But they're scared of her at first And I'm like, and as the audience knows It's just like, oh just tell Janeway you're kids It'll be fine, trust us

[00:05:02] But I was like, I understand why you don't think that And I also loved how though Janeway RIP We have time travel coming up so who knows Yeah, she's gonna have a lot of fun with that Yeah, her favorite right But Erin what about you

[00:05:15] What was some of your favorite contributions Of the first season of Prodigy Well for sure, I don't know I like some of the places that they went Like the space elevator And just the we got to see bigger landscapes And things that you just couldn't do with

[00:05:29] You know it's the whole TAS You know all these things that you can in regular Live action, so seeing that And just being able to It's like the bridge of starship technology Between Voyager and the movies And that area But as far as people, I think Zero also

[00:05:46] Is one of my favorites Just because they They're older but not at the same time It's this very weird kind of contradiction Because how old is Zero supposed to be We know Well we don't know like how Medusins age Yeah, that's why I was wondering

[00:06:05] I do want to say thank you to Matthew Averitt and the live audience For the very generous $10 Super Chat Matthew says I can't wait for Prodigy season So you're in luck Matthew We're closing out on the final days

[00:06:18] Won't be much longer but thank you so much for that But that's a good point Erin Like a lot of the scenic visuals We wouldn't get in live action track Or not on the same frequency Almost every episode of Prodigy has a beautiful sequence

[00:06:34] Of the proto-star landing on a planet Or flying to an interesting Tacky on storm or something cool going on We get a lot of cool visual environments In Prodigy It almost feels like it's a little bit of a callback To the Voyager opening Because they have all

[00:06:50] That always struck me as this really beautiful Flying through all these different starscapes And over the planet The rings of that one planet There's kind of like an extended version of that Which is nice because we've got Voyager

[00:07:04] It's sort of this unofficial sequel to Voyager in some ways Yeah, really Truly like season 1 of Prodigy This 20 episode arc It was kind of like the 7 years of Voyager It was kind of like Okay we're going to start off on a ship Headed towards the Alpha Quadrant

[00:07:20] And we end when we get to Earth So it's kind of like the same thing Just like done a lot quicker We got a lot more time on Earth than we did in Voyager though I appreciate that As they approach Federation space

[00:07:32] And they kind of ease you into the familiar things Like having the Romulans and the board show up Before we actually see the Federation stuff like that That was really cool It is a really interesting journey From when you start off it's sort of like

[00:07:44] This is Star Wars Not exactly, but it's got a little bit of that feel And then you're like Oh, and it slowly becomes like this really familiar Thing that you know but through the lens of these other people Which is really interesting You're seeing it from what

[00:07:59] Not from a Starfleet perspective But from people who've never heard of Starfleet Or never seen anything inside of the Alpha Quadrant And I also love the people from all the worlds of stage Yeah, that's great We saw one of them in the last episode At Starfleet

[00:08:15] So they've made their way to real Starfleet The endoprysians, yeah Thank you, yes Yeah, it doesn't really have the real planet name You're right Brandy, what about you? What was some of your favorite contributions Of Prodigy Season 1? More Janeway That was probably my top thing

[00:08:34] Excuse me, more Janeway I mean, that's great That's a correct opinion Yeah, because I've always loved Kate Mulgrew Before she was Janeway And so when she became Janeway I was even more excited about the show But I... It's... I also really appreciated

[00:08:52] And, you know, not everybody will see it this way But I really appreciated Evil-coded Goth Janeway hologram Because I'm just like, oh, hell yeah I want to do that as a cosplay Yeah But, yeah, I'm actually... It's a cosplay generator button They just push it

[00:09:11] Like what can we... The people want to dress up as? What five second thing we can do That someone like me Will have, like, obsessed about And decided to do a cosplay on It's also like the cool toy collector thing When you can have, like, a new variant

[00:09:26] Of a figure, you know, like the Playmates toys They were... like they had, like, the Cupid Like Robin Hood costumes If only it didn't take them two years To make toys of this show Or lines that they start And then cancel People don't collect action figures Like...

[00:09:42] There were, like, a lot more adults With disposable income in the 1990s Than there are in the 2020s I think that's like a big issue But, yeah, as a result We get less merch, I guess And also, the marketing departments are like

[00:09:55] They will not do anything unless it's an Absolutely 100% sure thing That's the thing that you can't predict A 100% sure thing And honestly, it's a thing If they had a moobsy ready, they would have sold out of those Yeah The thing is Yeah, this market could ask me, like

[00:10:12] I really do 100% absolutely sure things And I went, funny enough, in the world at large That's impossible and does not exist Yeah Oh, I'm not saying it's accurate I'm just saying it's good I do remember laughing watching the final episode Of season one of Prodigy

[00:10:26] And Zero shows up in their nice new body And laughing because I was like, is this any other show? I do you know that would be to sell a new toy Transformers or G.I. Joe Yeah, exactly I also really love How

[00:10:41] They put together these very diverse kids Mm-hmm And they kind of color code them as well Like they literally You're each different colors It's easy to keep it apart They're easy to recognize on screen Even if they're like really far off in the distance

[00:10:57] You're like, oh I know who the purple one is Yeah, and it just accentuates The fact that these are all people From very different backgrounds With a common goal And they're learning how to work together And learning how to be a family

[00:11:12] Some people might say, oh that's in your face And it's woke and all that stuff Guess what woke means? It means snoozing, okay Yeah It's just like, use this dirty word It's also just good storytelling And it's just like, yeah Why would you want to be brain dead?

[00:11:29] Oh, because it's easier Because then you don't have to think about Your own problems, I see So you find problems with other people And project all of your insecurities onto them But, yeah, I'm not better About that But these kids It's just so fun to watch them

[00:11:55] Even when they're annoying And all kids are annoying at some point There are moments throughout this first season Where you're just like Oh, are you kidding me? What are you doing? Yeah, the first episode I'm just like Oh, I'm not going to like this character at all

[00:12:11] He's the annoying kid that lives next door Kind of a thing where it's just like And I really... Yeah, and I really... I could really see why he was doing all those things I really could understand Because he thinks he's been abandoned

[00:12:27] And in a way I guess he has But he doesn't have The means of a family But he conjures them up And so they each have their own thing going on But when it comes right down to it They have each other's backs

[00:12:44] And they are a very cohesive crew And a family I love seeing that With characters that are so young And having the diversity of characters It's also really great storytelling opportunities Because it allows you to

[00:13:02] You know, oh we can do like a Medusa and telepath thing this week And maybe eventually we'll get to Teller Prime I know our friend Dr. Trekk himself, Larry Nemechek Has been banging that drum for years It's like that's the only Federation

[00:13:15] Founder species that we haven't seen in their home world yet Or maybe in two weeks that'll happen That's true Erin, I see in the chat You're pointing out the goth Janeway cosplay So we have the goth Janeway cosplay fund going Who are you nominating to dress up?

[00:13:35] Oh, it's for whoever Doesn't even have to be gender specific I mean Brandi is wearing the right lipstick for it Yeah, that's true I could do the goth makeup easily I have plenty of supplies in that regard But the rest of it

[00:13:51] Not sure, I could pull off the hair The hair style is where it's like Yeah, I remember doing the hollow Janeway again I guess I'll have to get a wig Because my hair is significantly shorter than the last time I did that cosplay

[00:14:05] Mine is long enough but obviously not the right color And I'm not going to color my hair This is the natural color of my hair now And I'm not going to dye it ever again Because it's just a big pain in the butt Was it just black?

[00:14:19] I thought she had kind of like grayish silver It was kind of a different color I mean technically my hair is not the right color It should be redder but I was like, I don't care The goth Janeway, her hair got darker

[00:14:30] It's like a very dark brown almost like jet black I think what I like for the Star Trek fandom Is that even if you don't look exactly like that There doesn't seem to be as much pushback You are not screen accurate Because you are not wearing the right

[00:14:45] Stormtrooper helmet or whatever I'll change that for the 501st Yeah So I feel like we have a better community At least as far as Better community but more accepting Like, it's very hard to do some of that alien makeup And make it look perfect

[00:15:03] I also like to see other people's interpretations Of what they do with what they have Well the animated shows are always going to have more room For interpretation when it comes to creating that kind of stuff If it's not realized in live action

[00:15:16] Then no one is going to have the default screen accurate versions When I was doing the Janeway bun I was like having trouble and then I realized it was never done with real hair Which is why I was having a lot of trouble with it

[00:15:26] Like the original one was a wig and this is animated And I was like we're just going to get a pair My very thick hair to a bun anyway possible then Yeah, my biggest hurdle would actually be the uniform

[00:15:36] Because they do not make uniforms in this girl's size So it would have to be something bespoke And I cannot afford that Ah, Aaron Walke is in the chat Hi Aaron Without you today Brandy to key off what you were saying

[00:15:55] One of your favorite things was like the inclusion of Or not just the inclusion of Janeway but like the addition of Janeway Getting more Janeway It really was a pleasant surprise how much Kate Mulgrew was doing When they first announced her involvement it was exciting

[00:16:10] But she was so key to the show as multiple characters it turns out I wasn't expecting that I was thinking I just rewatched the season one The last 24 hours so it's all pretty fresh And I wanted to think like who was my favorite character

[00:16:25] Because I like all those characters and kind of like the unique thing For like season one for me I think the proto star if I'm going to have like A lot of people like to think I like the ships and Star Trek as characters

[00:16:36] But that's kind of so much like the identity of season one Like oh yeah season one is going to be like the proto star season Maybe that's like the Voyager A season But like the time they spent on that proto

[00:16:47] Like the ship where like they learned to be friends Where they learned to be a crew Learned to be a family Like that was the proto star and you know voiced by Bonnie Gordon You can even like assign like an actor to the character

[00:16:58] That's still weird for me Right like Erin you knew Bonnie before she was involved in Prada G Years ago like yeah she's why I ended up doing Star Trek improv Because you know I was wearing the uniform

[00:17:11] And I was with the other group and then she's like well get in the picture I'm like I don't do this improv she's like you can do this get in there I'm like okay and that's just she was going to sort of push me into trying it

[00:17:19] So and I'm hoping that we hear her as like the computer voice And season two so because I know like they're building more proto star Class ships and like there's time travel involved and I think we'll see

[00:17:30] You know Jakoté on his time on the proto star and stuff so I get the impression she's in season two though Yes but it's a cool ship it's like I say this all the time Like it's not like my favorite ship in Star Trek

[00:17:40] Like if I could own like any of the Star Trek ships I would want like the proto star because it's like oh it's small enough I could like find parking for it I could like land it you know In someone's backyard or something

[00:17:50] It has a holodeck so if I want to play on the Enterprise Or the Define or anything else I'll just go on the holodeck And simulate whatever I want to be on It has the holo projectors all through the ship

[00:17:58] So I could have like you know holographic recreations Of Odo or Dr. Crusher You know it has all kinds of people stored on that on that ship's computer apparently So and I love like the props I love like the the prodigy like phasers and tricorders

[00:18:11] And all of that stuff so I want to be on the ship That has like that version of everything I know like a lot of that was there was a lot of thought Went into the like merch side or like possible toys and stuff

[00:18:22] And you know it's kind of interesting sort of like Angularity to some of that stuff Yeah it looks fun to play with Which is weird It all looks fun to play with I know Very tactile Yeah toys But I was going to say Father E

[00:18:36] Let's be honest the proto starts at the sides of some of the trucks in Texas So I've got to play something like not that far down the street I could just probably park it Closer to the Starfleet Academy filming location It's also the fastest ship

[00:18:50] So I'd be able to look around the galaxy pretty quick on it Just pop over there pop over here And you can also just replicate a smaller ship if you needed it Yeah the vehicle replicator how cool

[00:18:59] I could make an Aqua Shuttle and go to a class P Or whatever like the water planets What are those class I think class P or the water ones from the from Voyager I'm checking That's one of those like what should I call it

[00:19:12] ADHD things that will stick in my head if I don't figure it out Planet has covered 80% of water ice and is capable of supporting native human life So water world Yeah I'm saying like the proto stars probably my favorite character season one

[00:19:25] Rachel was talking up Murph and zero Brandy mentioned Janeway Any character stand out to you in the first season Aaron You know it's like this is not something I thought I would say when I started but Dowl Actually because he I think he's had a really interesting arc

[00:19:40] And he's actually somebody I would want to spend time with now as opposed to when he first started out Or just like please don't ever come near me Because we had a neighbor kid that was like I swear it was it was Dowl

[00:19:52] They just like clone his personality and threw him in the computer See a little bit as like a child who grew up with ADHD And I was like unfortunately I see a little bit in me and other kids

[00:20:02] I knew that I was like that I can see to get better like yeah Well, I just love that he learned to trust himself and he didn't have to It wasn't like I must immediately act on what I'm thinking He's got he's like he's learned like okay

[00:20:17] I might not even have the right answer I might have to rely on somebody else who's here with me So he's you know obviously not 100% accomplished But he's definitely getting towards that direction

[00:20:29] And finding out more about himself I think I was really gave him more confidence at the same time Yeah, and it's also that like he learned like Oh now that I have real confidence I don't need to be putting this phony confidence on

[00:20:39] Which I get he was stuck in weird jail Well, yeah Literally sold as a slave labor as a child That was survival cockiness not Yeah, survival cockiness Oh god prodigy is like if you explain the premise of it without giving away that it's a kid show

[00:20:57] It's sound horrifying Yeah, like if the season one discovery people took the the premise of prodigy And tried to produce like the same thing with their level of intensity It would be a very grim dark season of Star Trek

[00:21:11] It does remind me I once was just trying to describe an episode of Voyager to her friend And she was not she hasn't watched a lot of Star Trek But I had to explain the premise that every then a lot of people had died

[00:21:22] That's why the doctor was like there and the main character And she went Jesus Christ, that's dark And I went Voyager by far as not considered the dark one That's kind of a dark way to start your show though What happened to ship dies in the first episode

[00:21:35] And that's what's interesting about the people are like oh modern Star Trek is so dark It's like it just depends on how you frame it Or if you like definitely think about Wolf 359 I mean that's right. It's god-awful

[00:21:45] But we're not seeing it through like a more documentary lens or whatever We're just hearing numbers and it's kind of shows what real life you know war can do Is you know feel disjointed and and not relevant because you can't take in that information

[00:22:01] There's no you know context But then when you have we see a close-up on a family like the Cisco's Then you get more of like okay imagine that happening now over Hundreds of thousands of people or whatever That's just it's that's a horrible thing to have happened

[00:22:14] And no wonder they Federation sort of tilted towards you know more militaristic and Maybe we should stop putting families on these things Well that too yeah That's why he said oh there's two classrooms like when zero is talking about the new Voyager A I'm like okay

[00:22:32] Again, I saw what group on military bases. I never thought it was weird as everybody else No, no I know Well, that's just I there's there was an interesting Twitter thread that was back and forth like when we were talking about Father's Day

[00:22:43] And not great fathers in Star Trek which there are many But personally top of my list is Cisco because of what he did to Jake and like what what yeah and we had to They yeah

[00:22:56] So it was it was the whole thing that you know he had him on a ship and he knew that it was dangerous And it's like everyone in Starfleet is knows that everything is dangerous I mean like you can't again so a military brat

[00:23:06] I really resent the implication that anyone who takes their kids with them So either he'd be a bad father because he took him with him or a bad father because he left him Like with I would assume like grandpa it's a catch. Yeah exactly

[00:23:18] It was like my parents moved around a lot and they met a British family with a similar career trajectory because they had sent their kids to boarding school And like both couldn't comprehend the other doing like you move them every two years

[00:23:29] You beat your kids like you don't bring your kids with you So I wonder in season two if the doctor is the official like nanny essentially because That's what I think these kids have to have like some sort of somebody to watch them

[00:23:40] Yeah, so my my impression and my hope is that with with hollow Janeway Unfortunately, our IP deleted retired whatever happens the programs But I think that they'll you know continue to have Kate Mulgrew be a big part of the show as Admiral Janeway

[00:23:58] And we'll just have the doctor kind of be that the voice like the hologram that you know follows them around and helps them out We have scheduled fun But it'll be a very different dynamic I think it'll I think it'll kind of freshen things up

[00:24:13] What were you saying Brandy? I was just gonna say I would like to set the record straight that Janeway is not my overall favorite character of Star Trek Prodigy She's my favorite legacy character of Star Trek Prodigy But my favorite character is Rock Talk

[00:24:27] Rock talk so I will follow that child into hell and be her shield. I would die for that child Rock talk reminds me a lot of me except that I wasn't good at science

[00:24:37] But a lot of like hello, I want to play with stuffed animals and I'm kind of tall for my age And people think I'm older than I am but please just let me play with my dolls

[00:24:46] That was me too when I was 13 people were thinking that I was an adult because I've been the size You know as tall as I am now since I was 11 and I'm five foot nine So Oh you were real early rumor

[00:25:01] Not not quite that tall unlike 5 7 but like I got there at like middle school and then I'm this I'm taller than many adult women Yeah, I know how that feels and and then there was of course the other developments

[00:25:14] Like I had to start wearing a bra when I was 11 as well And I once had a classmate snap my bra strap and say Why are you wearing that? And I just looked at her and said because I have something to put in it

[00:25:29] She never bothered me again There you go That's so good That was just the first thing I thought of Ask a dumb question get a dumb answer right? I love that That's great Yeah I had the opposite problem I was always like too young looking like in college

[00:25:46] I had some truant officer tried to take me back to school To like to like junior high school You're going back to high school You told me that right? Yeah You worked there though right? I worked there yeah I worked at the school

[00:25:59] So they took me in front of the principal and the principal was like yeah what what what what's wrong Why have you brought her employee here? Yeah it's like it's like he works in the AV department The guy was just like yeah thank you for bringing him back

[00:26:11] I guess he's not working today You know That was fun And I went just because it's like okay I want to see the look on this people's face Like I could have just said no when showing them an ID or whatever But yeah that was fun

[00:26:26] Now I wish the people would think I was young See it's funny now people think I'm younger than I am but Yeah I was really sad the day they stopped asking me for ID at the liquor store Somewhere around the age of 27 I got carded and got called

[00:26:40] Wow you look good for your age and I was like I don't know how that sounds at 27 Yeah that's um wow Honestly that's just offensive no matter what age you are And my dad was there and then also hearing someone say that about his youngest child

[00:26:54] Just made my dad feel real old so it was like a fun mix Everyone gets a big reaction to that And I was like please just bring me my Mexican martini that's all I want out of this interaction It's not that hard

[00:27:09] To tie that back into Star Trek Prodigy The all-agentness of it That was kind of a concern going in Star Trek's kind of always been something that I think a lot of us enjoy as kids But kind of like the target audience was kind of always been adults

[00:27:23] Or at least people mature enough to you know think about the subject matter Do any of y'all think that like Prodigy was held back by the requirements to make it like a Nickelodeon show Does Star Trek work on that level?

[00:27:38] For the most part I was always very pleasantly surprised by how well they handled the stuff Like I thought the Borg episode in particular was done so well where it was It had that fear but in a way that it wasn't too much for kids

[00:27:51] But it was like when I'm a security cat so I still found it a little scary But I um Like I thought it was done really well and in a way it introduced you to the concept of the Borg Really well

[00:28:06] If anything I think maybe they made like emotional choices I think they would make differently on an adult show but none that bothered me Like I feel like maybe the Diviner would not have been forgiven as quickly on a show for adults

[00:28:19] But it's like this is a show for kids having like this big resentful moment between a father and daughter Is probably not the healthiest thing to show Like Well, there was enough of that before that it felt like Yeah, and there was enough of that before

[00:28:32] That I think having him do the big sacrifice I don't know what happened on an adult show but it like also thematically made sense for the show they had been making

[00:28:41] Um, but honestly I felt like they dealt with the old age thing very well and like to the point where I'm like recommending this show And I'm like yes, I know it's for kids but like just watch it. It's a good show Like

[00:28:52] Well, I can say like you hear people say that's kind of what they lead with sometimes You know, I know you heard that it was for kids but it's not really That's not it, you know

[00:28:59] So there's yeah, there's that level of even fan was trying to say like promotion of it being like you know Hey, nope, it's for everybody. Yes. Yeah I think the only place for me where it didn't quite a hundred percent work was at the the What is it?

[00:29:13] Protostar part one and two the final no supernova whatever it was the last two episodes where they were fighting The ships were shooting back and forth with each other nothing exploded and it just felt more like a war games kind of thing Was like

[00:29:28] Like okay hours later. They're still shooting at each other in a real Star Trek battle Something would have blown up and you know, it would have been over So that was the only time I'm like, okay, I get it

[00:29:36] But maybe we could have worked that well a little bit differently so it didn't Feel so impotent. I don't know that was the only for me the only part that really got me

[00:29:45] I think they still kind of implied the the death and destruction there with there's like a shot of like the the flames Going down like a corridor in like a Starfleet ship

[00:29:54] So I but that's that's it like that it was it is very tame to like leave it there But that was like a point I thought of like any other Star Trek show would have been able to go like a few steps further but other than even lower

[00:30:06] Dexter when they Texas glass they saw somebody get blown out like the destroyed in the hallway. Yeah, I really like the season one Season finale all yeah, all right all the world's a stage, right? No, you mean it now that was

[00:30:19] No small parts. No small parts. Yeah, all the world's a stage is the one you were just talking about tonight Yeah, okay But it's too many Shakespeare quotes and yeah and start you're already back to I'm conscious of the king but

[00:30:31] How sharper than a surface to if you can't think of a cool title go find a shark Shakespeare quote We haven't used yet if it's what we have you could probably get away with it It's an easy way for yeah easy way for writers to get good dialogue

[00:30:42] You know so people have been doing it for a long time not just Star Trek That's true like yeah, they do you feel like a little tame in that moment Aaron and then the other thing I didn't notice this till it was pointed out to me

[00:30:57] But it was actually Aaron walkie online who talked about how they couldn't have any alcohol on the show and he even tried to Right to sneak in the mention of Romulan bubbly to be you know instead of saying Romulan L

[00:31:08] But they couldn't even say that but I didn't notice that until someone is like the animated series I never noticed that nobody dies except for the Kazenti and the slaver weapon

[00:31:17] I never noticed that it was like other than that totally like death-free until someone pointed it out to me So it didn't really impact my perception of the stories

[00:31:25] It's funny if you watch that and then watch GI Joe it was like really obvious in GI Joe because they'd always like parachute And suddenly they'd land in a right river that wasn't there before two seconds ago, you know like yeah That was really obvious which is strange

[00:31:36] Yeah, I think almost but yeah, I was thinking the spider-man show that wasn't allowed to kill off Mary Jane So Mary Jane went time traveling I don't remember that Probably happened in the comics at some point Some point

[00:31:52] It's like the last, God it's not seen my brother was obsessed with Spider-Man particularly like this was his show That's that last episode where they go and they hang out with Stan Lee for a little bit Yeah they meet Stan Lee Yeah

[00:32:04] And then they go oh Mary Jane's alive and she's time traveling or it's not gonna differ universe or something like that Let's go find her in the show hands We did find well slight spoilers for X-Men 97 which is set in that same universe but he does find her

[00:32:19] Oh good for him good for Peter That warms my heart It does Well yeah that is heartwarming I almost said heartwarming like I'm gotta like kill my dog or something A dog? Could be that too As for prodigy season one was there any heartwarming

[00:32:39] I have a hard time saying that I can't say heart and then that other word right next to each other apparently Warming heartwarming Heartfelt moment Heartfelt moment there you go That's good

[00:32:51] Were there any like heartfelt scenes in prodigy season one like the like one for me was when they they're doing like the group bonding thing Whether they're kind of like talking about their their trauma and eating ice cream

[00:33:02] But it is like a little corny when like they're they're saying like pile it on but I like the The idea of the concept of oh, yeah just kind of a group ice cream fest

[00:33:13] Just everyone just let your trauma out and support each other type of a moment It was cool to see that I think Jill is mentioning this in the comments too but at the end of time a muck when like they're all reunited is so sweet Like

[00:33:28] Yeah the big group hug at the end Yeah Brandy what about you any any scenes that really stood out as like a emotional touching moment Oh There are a lot and I'm trying to narrow it down because right now my mind is just chaos

[00:33:42] It's it's jumbling all of them together and when giant blender that is my brain I think one of and this one is is heartfelt but it's also really sad is when it during supernova

[00:33:56] Supernova and they're in the shuttle and they think that they're activating the Janeway hologram and instead it's recording Oh, yeah And just all their faces as it's going around I List of when you put in the fields all of my sad

[00:34:14] Yeah, I have a sad one as well Yeah And and and that one hit me hard that one got well, you know, I cry easily and people who know me know this Me too

[00:34:25] That one I was sobbing. Yeah sobbing. Yeah, and I was sobbing for quite some time in until even after the protostar Made its final run and yeah, it's it was there was just so much sobbing from me and I'm not ashamed of that

[00:34:44] Some people would be uncomfortable with that. Thankfully my husband is not More back He would not be your husband anymore if he was That's it's fair. You wouldn't We gotta go heartwarming. I thought like the especially like the second kiss with Dal and Gwen was really sweet

[00:35:02] The one where they're like just in that like they're in kind of like a star like observatory thing that I thought was like a really sweet moment Oh, yeah, yeah Yeah Yeah, and I'm curious how long they'll be separated going into season two Me too

[00:35:16] They kind of do like the fun thing of the the will they won't they they make you wait like all 20 episodes of season one and then they're Oh look like they kiss they like each other and now they're

[00:35:27] I don't know months apart weeks apart. Hopefully not too long. I did for a sadder moments I also had the diviner's death in here I thought it was very well acted and I even like the diviner is not a good father, but I did appreciate

[00:35:44] Like how hard that would be for Gwen even though like not a great father, but still her father And it also said just said mine was related to that It's like when Gwen realizes that her father cares more about the protostar than she does than her

[00:35:59] Oh, yeah, that was just like that It hit really hard and it felt familiar in many ways when unfortunately and just like oh god, you know like just

[00:36:08] And I was just so happy that she actually had other people around her afterwards because I don't know how he would like She still was like devastated are you talking about like early on on the on the murder planet murder planet on a

[00:36:22] Terror firma episode five what there's that moment when he's he's approaching the the protostar and like the vines have her tied up

[00:36:29] And she's like like no dad like come help me and you see him like pause like he hesitates like part of him like wants to help his Kid but then he's like no I care about like this shit more you see him like yeah

[00:36:39] Yeah, that kind of stood out to me as a kind of made me like respect him as an antagonist is kind of a more interesting villain until Then he'd been very you know kind of cartoonish Just you know stereotypical that there is a cartoon. Yeah

[00:36:52] Yeah, well the thing the thing about Gwen is that she doesn't understand yet that she was made simply to be a tool

[00:37:01] Yes, that is all she is and he acts like he cares for her but he doesn't care for her like a father should care for his child He cares about everything. He's taught her he cares about her being the key to fixing the planet if he fails

[00:37:18] He is not he didn't create her because he was lonely. He created her to use her That is all he did he didn't reproduce because he wanted to have like grandkids some day it was because like in case I die and can't do my mission

[00:37:32] I need someone to continue he views her as an extension of himself, which is a mistake a lot of parents make with their children I was gonna say that's exactly where I was headed. Yeah Do not copy and paste

[00:37:43] Do not copy and paste your expectations and hopes and wishes on take your child red like stop it Like you can't even do that between one child and next child like yeah, it is yeah

[00:37:56] It's like it's the one of the things that's like it turns out the child he made is an individual what a surprise Like crazy. Yeah

[00:38:07] You know seeing the live audience David Jackal is saying that Gwen is his favorite and Joel Valles is saying that Rock Talks fighting acting career arc hit hard too

[00:38:20] That was that was cool to see. Oh, yeah with the hero and the yeah, and it's also I think rock talk kind of had the thing of putting expectations on her where they're like big strong

[00:38:29] You're gonna be the like muscle and she's like I don't want to be yeah, I'm big teddy bear Please let me go and science like yeah, there's an episode of prelude with pets

[00:38:40] There's a lot of heartfelt stuff in that in that episode when you kind of see everyone's backstory they all have they all come from like a pretty

[00:38:47] I guess that is what happens when like you you meet all your friends that like the you know the slave labor camp as you have like very tragic story to share But my friend in some room I

[00:39:00] Somewhere on this was it just says all the flashback because they're all so tragic and I loved how they were like each a little mini story

[00:39:08] Even like I could say we haven't talked about Jensen Jeng and Pogs, but I love that he saved everyone and no one knows Like and I feel that computer that was like yelling at him. Yeah, I feel that as maybe the person sometimes at you know at work

[00:39:23] When you're like I fix everything. Oh My boss is getting credit. Okay, this is not necessarily my current job. That's like this, but I definitely worked at places like that same And then also I love J

[00:39:36] Jason Minzukis and he is so funny and would listen to anything he does same. Yeah, I would watch or listen to anything he does Yeah, Jinko Pog I guess is good. No, I say he was great in in the good place. Oh, so good. Yeah

[00:39:53] He's good in everything. Can he say anything in which he's been bad? No, you cannot know all of the things he's been in So the thing is I've watched things with Jason Minzukis that I'm like this wasn't very good He's never the reason they're very good though

[00:40:07] Like he's often been oh the best thing about this movie is Jason Minzukos Agree. He's more of the comic relief than anything. He's like Jinko Pog a lot of times You know, he's he's in the scene to you know deliver the joke to keep Keep the kids

[00:40:21] Interested or you know engaged or whatever just add that extra stimulation in there and and sometimes Yeah, so sometimes those characters can get kind of annoying, you know, but he's I think I think like his voice Just has like that that charisma that energy that

[00:40:36] Balance though because he actually does Interesting things that move plot. He's not just comic relief. Yeah, and he's not mean He's not like a he's not like he's not funny and like kind of like a jerk way

[00:40:47] I mean, I guess he does you know pass gas around other people sometimes So that's a bit well He's going to be argumentative because that's he's a teller right right, right? He's gonna have like that to us style, you know teller right contrary and thing like yeah

[00:41:00] Like to make that like kind of cool and used in Star Trek again It's like that thing of like good is different than nice He's not nice, but he's not bad like he's a good person But he's not a nice person

[00:41:10] And it gives us it's a diversity of characters that you yeah is really reflective in Star Trek, which is kind of cool

[00:41:16] It's not talking too much about the next season but see in the little trailer that we saw back in August of last year where he's you know Jake he's all cleaned up, but he's talking, you know and zero says well, that's kind of disturbing

[00:41:30] Why is this app which reminded me of the spot on those old scientists were yeah, it's like what's happening? It's like that's very scary I'm trying to be nicer. Don't Very that meta reaction when the characters have the same reaction as the audience

[00:41:46] Yeah, I'm very curious to see how that moves forward. That'll be interesting I feel like he snaps to two minutes in His little swooped up hairdo or whatever just falls down and yeah goes back to being

[00:42:04] He just he just starts doing percussive maintenance again. He's done with doing it the soft way I was watching some of the Some of the bonus features on the the blue rays for season one

[00:42:17] Recently as one of the someone was talking about designing Jankampog's character and how you know They wanted to give him like this really utility on his arm where he just come up with like all these you know different tools and stuff

[00:42:28] For any situation. Yeah, yeah, like that is like a cool thing to have an animation And then they're like but you know mainly he'll just you know produce the hammer and just hit stuff That he could do anything, but he's gonna use that Hammer

[00:42:44] Speaking of exo comps the other cool advantage of the proto start has the I think they were called photonic scrubbers But they looked like exo comps as things that like flew around and cleaned the the ship that hollow Janeway used to clean off

[00:42:55] Some of the vines on murder planet, but oh Yeah, that seems I also seems useful on a ship. That's gonna be end up ran by children Yeah, they're not gonna claim Terrible cleaning and I'm self-cleaning. It's a self

[00:43:09] I mean I assume I assume most of the the Starships can have some level of technology that does that But that one we know it's on screen canon confirmed it is self-cleaning just for dust

[00:43:19] You'd have to do that. I mean that's why I thought like people are just oh the carpet you've missing the carpet It's like the carpet is like the worst dust catchers like that. No, it's just a bad idea in a spaceship

[00:43:27] Yeah, I just get dirty and get stained and but I actually started having like the the carpet Conversation I guess I wasn't really talking to other people But I started like thinking about like carpet and Star Trek because of prodigy actually

[00:43:40] I was like looking like oh all these like metallic surfaces on the floors and stuff I was like there used to be like a lot of carpeting in Star Trek and then you know We have like all the the massive carpet debate on a Picard season 3

[00:43:51] Well, I was I was thinking about it in prodigy, you know back in the 2021 apparently in TOS that's supposed to be carpeted hallway or something like that Oh, okay, really behind the scenes footage where you see people having to vacuum the Enterprise day

[00:44:04] There's someone vacuumed it. Yeah. Yeah Well, let me ask you You're talking about like a jankympog and how he like kind of Changed and grew and developed and Dowl I guess had like a big arc

[00:44:16] I would say Gwen she kind of like matured kind of quick at the beginning But you know, she went from being you know Like her dad's lackey to like one of the kids pretty quick, but I guess they've all had an arc

[00:44:27] I don't know zero. I don't know if zero has Well, I feel like they've not really changed much definitely had the arc of like When they accidentally hurt Gwen and it was like trying to like get past that moment Yeah

[00:44:43] What are the things I wanted to ask you? I was what was any favorite lessons that the the kids learned during season one What's a say doll in general of being yeah, I was like that's the think first Think first a kind of

[00:44:58] Kind of a cop-out answer for Star Trek, but the doing the cake how we ask you maru and being like you can't always win That's not how this works Yeah And just the idea that they you have to have that family is important whatever that family is yeah

[00:45:14] And that doesn't mean that you know if your dad is going to try and use you as a key and murder You was like you could still have a family that is not that person and they will support you and love you

[00:45:23] Also your past doesn't necessarily define you. I think both was like when and all yeah of like hey It doesn't matter that well luckily for doll it doesn't seem to matter right now that technically he's Illegally made that's not his fault. That's not his fault. It's genuinely

[00:45:40] I think someone described as like the last socially acceptable form of discrimination in Starfleet Yeah, I like the Federation's final prejudice. I think the words that that Aaron walkie used at one point Um and Gwen with like your father doesn't define you

[00:45:59] Brandy, what about you like were there any lessons the kids learned in season one that? Particularly resonated with you Yeah, it's kind of an overarching thing and it's something that I think just a lot of us even now forget You can choose who you want to be

[00:46:22] You can choose your behavior you can choose what you study you can choose to build a certain Future for yourself and these kids Didn't know how to do that because none of them had ever known freedom. They had no agency

[00:46:43] Their first taste of agency was when they got on that ship Yeah And so they're kind of all over the place for a while And that's completely understandable because they have this agency and they don't know what to do with it because they're afraid

[00:46:56] all of the time that such agency is going to be taken away and so just Seeing them progress to the point where they're just gonna do what they want to do what needs to be done

[00:47:12] regardless of what anyone else thinks because you know especially with rock talk because everybody kept trying to fit her into a specific box. Yes, and she and then she spent all of that time alone in time amok

[00:47:26] We don't even know for sure how much time it was but my guess is decades Yeah, maybe centuries. It's hard to say and And that that I'm sure caused a bit of trauma But she didn't let that stop her and she's like nope. I'm gonna do science

[00:47:49] No matter what they tried to get her else to do to do security. She's like nope. No, I'm doing science This is this is my calling. I've decided this is my calling and I love seeing that happen for These young people because we're never really taught that

[00:48:07] Again because of the copying and pasting of expectations and dreams onto our children So except in this case they had none of that they had just been enslaved

[00:48:18] So they they kind of they kind of got to get out of jail free in that regard because they didn't have any parents to say Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, you are going to school for you know

[00:48:27] You're going to be a shuttle pilot or whatever, you know, it's just it was it's It's inspiring showing kids and just an adults too because how many of us Have chosen our future and how many of us just kind of got stuck in it

[00:48:45] Because we didn't believe that we could do what we wanted No, I think a lesson is really important too because the age I would say the age this show is like mainly targeting is like I would say like middle school

[00:48:59] Maybe a little younger but when kids are first starting to really start discovering oh, I have interests that are not my parents interests Yeah, yeah that it's like oh That I should be figuring out what I like to do

[00:49:12] I think for me like one of my favorite lessons taught in the show was the value of communication Which season one really emphasizes in the first episode and in like the last episode and like in the middle it like the the

[00:49:27] Mid-season finale or whatever you want to call it it with a moral star parts went into but you know Tars LaMora the diviner keeps all of his slaves the unwanted he keeps them divided and

[00:49:37] Separate and unable to you know unite together and rise up by not having translation There's no communicators no universal translators and without you know with that language barrier they're separated and oppressed and then

[00:49:50] We see the the kids overcome that in a moral star parts one and two when they free them And then they revisit that at the end of the season when They lose the translator and Gwen has to reach out to all the non-federacy

[00:50:03] You know speak cling on and calm down rock talk by speaking Bracar and all of that stuff But it still went back to the communication like that whole thing of of what Star Trek supposed to be all about with you

[00:50:13] know infinite diversity and infinite combinations and and what Jean Roddenberry talked about with that of it not not just Accepting those different than you but celebrating that there are people different than you but all of that like you're not gonna have any of

[00:50:23] That if you can't if you can't talk to each other we can't communicate So the idea of that infinite diversity and infinite combinations. It doesn't happen naturally It takes effort it takes that communication, but it's so rewarding. It's so worth the effort

[00:50:37] And I think that's a very valuable lesson and very very Star Trek message Yeah, I think tying into that I think of the facts them like any any all the others who like knew who Janeway was as a person knew it was like all

[00:50:48] It took with them is finally being able to talk to Janeway for her to be like oh, I'll help you like And like that's not a surprising Janeway. What I was like

[00:50:56] Once Janeway discovered like hey, we're a bunch of kids that escaped slavery. She'd be like oh, of course Let course they didn't know that though. That was the 22

[00:51:05] Yeah, but once yeah once they're able to like actually talk to each other that that part of the problem at least was solved fairly quickly And I was like also this ship keeps trying to kill you so we're trying to keep it away from you

[00:51:19] That was a fun idea the idea of having the having Janeway Admiral Janeway real Janeway be on the hunt for that for the kids and the proto-star You know, you're kind of rooting for both sides. You're you support both sides

[00:51:33] that's a tricky thing to pull off because I Think you can easily make the mistake of making you know one side look like a bunch of jerks making them look like like

[00:51:41] You know too big of bad guys or you make everyone look like really stupid like why are y'all so dumb? You can't get on the same page, you know, but you yeah, I think they kind of might have thought a little contrived

[00:51:51] But they did a pretty good job explaining the the Vonokot weapon and how it controlled the proto-star and influenced hollow Janeway and all that stuff Well, I love hollow genuine is like when they're talking about trying to escape the Don't listen She's usually like good luck. Yeah

[00:52:06] The real me is really gonna like Yeah Before they're able to talk to Admiral Janeway she discovers their kids and her motivation changes She's no longer like these are criminals and she was like well something's going on

[00:52:21] And I should help these kids and figure out what's going on That was so fun like when they do like the the body swap thing in mind walk

[00:52:28] Those I think that's the best episode of the shit. I don't know. That's my favorite episode, but I think I think that's like the best That's the best written episode of the I mean Watched it earlier today. I'm just like beginning to end

[00:52:40] I've just like I've seen it so many times I still like laugh my ass off watching it Well, just the fact that they both did a really good job of imitating the other one Yeah, it was just like when you think about it like oh wait

[00:52:50] They didn't really switch bodies, but it feels like yeah They just like they picked up those cues really well Jerry Ryan did a good job of imitating a Bob Picardo Oh, yeah, when she was possessed by the EMA Chon Voyager

[00:53:02] Those things where it's like all of a sudden when I watch an actor do something else It's so different that I'm like oh look I knew you were a good actor, but like you're a good actor

[00:53:12] Like Wilson Cruz when he was doing the whatever that character was in yeah season of discovery Wait, I was gonna say like cable grew doesn't phone it in on this show like she she

[00:53:21] Like she's like oh she talks about it a lot of like it conventions. Yeah, like she like does not phone it in like she's She's acting her ass Playing Dow in Admiral Janeway's body, you know Kate Mulgrew voicing that was so good I also love like how

[00:53:38] Like she understands how important it is to have like the show for children Yeah She even sat with them like designing the character like to make sure that she was like kind of like a teacher like you know

[00:53:48] Because I think she would said like they made first version of all those animals. She's too pretty Like you don't need to make her like a model But her eyes weren't like expressive or big enough or something like that

[00:53:58] Because I remember looking I was like hollow. I was like what's she looking before cuz hollow Janeway is pretty You know that's true like did she look like a model before yeah The character faces and a lot of like the the face animation

[00:54:10] I don't like this animation in general across the board has has gotten so good in recent years but there's a lot of really a Good emotional beats they're just like a close-up on a character's face

[00:54:22] And it's just like the lighting is so good like I gotta give a lot of props to Ben Hibben or Ibn or Abon or however you say about like the director of the producer who's in charge of the directing on the show but

[00:54:35] They really do a good job of of getting like the light and like characters eyes like the little like like nuanced movements There's a lot of great close-ups

[00:54:44] Like like every time there's like a legacy Star Trek character it like like Admiral Janeway looks great Chico T. Looks great It's always like they look like them just in this format. There's no one that makes there's no one that made me go

[00:54:57] Wait, that was supposed to be them Which I feel like in other franchises. I've had that happen before and I'm like yeah, huh? Oh, okay Sure, like yeah all the likenesses are pretty good and I see a David Jackal and the live audience saying very magic school bus

[00:55:13] Like yeah, I think the same thing I know on the on some of the Blu-ray special features I was watching the the show creators the the Hageman brothers They were saying they kind of thought of hollow Janeway as their Mary Poppins

[00:55:25] She would you know be able to like guide the kids or any kind of almost a magical quality to her He's kind of like you know not no singing human not

[00:55:34] Kind of like fairy godmother type. Yeah, but I like magic school bus a bit more if it's magic school bus Which is those kids going I should have stayed home I'm not sure any of them. I know that's like I knew I should I always

[00:55:49] That kid I was like to be fair the stuff that happened on magic school bus I also if that happened to me in real life would be like what the hell You would learn so much science in the process

[00:56:00] Would learn so much science rock talk would be thrilled to meet miss Brazil learn about like psychology because you need to have a To deal with everything that happened doc doctor Aaron McDonald is a

[00:56:12] Character within start like there is a Starfleet officer named doctor Aaron McDonald now. I love that so much I think she can be the she can be the miss frizzle right the magic Doctor Aaron Mcdonald and you know ginger has the hair color connection

[00:56:27] So yeah, perhaps she's the miss frizzle of the trend I'm surprised at how many live people. I know that are actually now animated Star Trek people It's just like wait, how is this even possible at this point? Hi, so weird and I think that was surprised no one

[00:56:41] I've been told several times that I dressed like miss frizzle. They're not wrong. I don't know You have pearls or what is she I can work time. She's gonna get past my time. I'm I'm sad

[00:56:50] It's the pretty nerdy dresses. Oh god. Okay. Yeah, you dress like a school teacher Yep, well my mom my mom is my mom is a retired kindergarten teacher. So that tracks. Yeah The woman from the archive. Oh, yeah librarian. That's kind of like that vibe that I get

[00:57:09] She's she'd be kind of a fun miss frizzle type person But don't make her angry. Yeah Fine you Find you're something elsewhere. Yeah Seek knowledge seek knowledge elsewhere. Yeah, she was like I will not break the rules

[00:57:29] But I will use the rules to break you. I want to see more of that library There's no reason why it couldn't show up, you know, and any other Star Trek show in any other Star Trek go What should we call it?

[00:57:40] Academy Academy, thank you. Yeah, or it could if we got a prodigy season 3 it could show They should hop out back by that library Prodigy does like using the start larger Star Trek universe I think it's used it quite well

[00:57:53] So I want to ask you if you have any any favorite years as a larger Trek universe in season one I believe I already talked about the Borg That they thought they did that really well. I thought it was fun to bring back Okada and view

[00:58:06] Yeah, it was funny because a lot of people were like, oh, I didn't realize he would suck that much I was like you didn't cuz I did like I was not I'm surprised he just disappeared though. I kept waiting for him to come back and be like

[00:58:17] do something that like oh, he's gonna be an asshole and come back and and Turn them in or or he's gonna be the person who actually changes and saves them I didn't I didn't think he was gonna pull a hot on someone. I was like that guy

[00:58:29] It was all the fact that he just didn't come back at all was weird to me It's like yeah I'm hoping that he has some role to play in season two or something

[00:58:36] I also just the voyager-ness of it all is kind of like what I want to say Cuz I like I think using like to chicote as Jane with motivation makes sense like you're like, okay she would do all this for this character and

[00:58:49] Just having Jane way around is always cool That's and having oh, I can't remember the episode when she's able to convince that Woman to get her out of jail because it's someone she had saved in Voyager. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah supernova part one. Yes. I love that

[00:59:05] That was such cool cool use of the Trek universe I just love that being kind of a story that like like doing the right thing is its own reward

[00:59:12] And if you like just if you do the right thing in the universe, you know, it will naturally pay off Like karma's real it'll help you out. Yeah. Yeah, and I think Aaron cut already about this a little but all the world the stage in general

[00:59:24] Yeah, obviously I thought it was cool to finally see the Kobayashi Maru Like the we see the ship when Dahl is doing the the Kobayashi Maru simulation We've never actually like seen the ship before I guess you kind of doing the Kelvin universe

[00:59:37] We've never seen like a prime universe version of it So we got that but that was and then you had he got even a 24th century version Yeah, yeah, and he got to like use like the best of the best he tells the computer like oh

[00:59:47] Yeah, give me all your your talented crew members and so you have like Odo crusher Scotty Uhura spot and I love that they use that episode kind of as they like attribute to some of the cast members That were no longer with us

[01:00:01] This is that's Voyager of it all but this is me being petty also in that episode they do like specifically call Jane ways like Victorian Uh thing a Jane air hologram, which I had been used calling it for years and was like

[01:00:12] I don't think it's supposed to be Jane air and vindication. It is Jane air They called it that They did you know, they call it. They call it in that episode

[01:00:20] They she says as she says that Jane Jane or hologram. Oh because it feels more like gothic horror I mean It is Jane is off the core am I thinking of something?

[01:00:34] Jane it's Jane air is caught the core that sometimes gets looped into Jane Austin because those women Yes, Jane air. You're correct. Yes. I'm Jane air is a novel. Yes. Yeah Jane air uh Jane air written by charlotte

[01:00:51] And I like both I'm more of a Jane Austin fan as there's a jayner funko pop right there But Jane air is a gothic romance it is And those the Bronte sisters and Jane Austin get lumped together like they are contemporaries even though they are not

[01:01:06] Yeah, um, I'm sorry. This is another hyper interesting story to hear why I thought Jane air was a person too, Aaron So that what do I know? Jane air is a book written by charlotte bronte. Yes. Um, yeah

[01:01:17] It's not quite as gothic as uh withering height which is written by her sister Emily Don't even get me started on weathering heights. We will be here all night. Yeah, but withering heights is uh, Barely a romance. Yeah, weathering heights is annoying as hell

[01:01:34] I when I was when I was forced to read it. I'm just like I don't care about anyone in this book I don't care about any of you. You're all idiots

[01:01:45] Um, but yes crazy woman in the attic is from jane air. She is uh the governess to his uh ward And he turns out to we have his ex-wife who has gone mad in his attic

[01:01:58] Well, technically she's still his actual wife. Yeah, she's still his actual the wife I believe in the voyager thing where the the What is it the the mistress of the house or the lady who's the

[01:02:11] I think that is played by the same actress who does romulans on there But she was also in dark shadows in the 90s So there's just like oh, she's playing the same character essentially

[01:02:19] Like I'm just being weird strict lady everywhere. Yeah, well, she's very good at it. Yes And the little kid Yeah, the little kid in the holodeck program came back in Picard Uh as one of the changelings in season three I forgot about that

[01:02:37] And he was he was john connor on the on the tv show on the sarah connor tv show Oh, that was him. Oh, wow Yeah, he was also one of Picard's kids in the nexus. I remembered that I remember being like that child looks familiar

[01:02:50] Yeah, they were like, oh, yeah, we'll put them in the same outfit and use them on voyager Yeah, good job. They all live in a simulation. They're just reusing the Loop the polygram. He was maybe he had seen that hologram before he just made that child

[01:03:05] Yeah, that was that came as nexus memory. Yeah Yeah Uh, but they did just some fun stuff in the in the holodeck in in prodigy. They did that ghost on the machine Yes, I forgot to see that was great

[01:03:17] The doctor noam teller right of it my favorite fun episodes. Yeah, like the street fighter pro I like saying like oh people play like kind of like more like I don't what I think of is like modern day video games

[01:03:27] I was thinking kind of like streets of rage on the second genesis, which I guess is like not I mean that was 30 years ago. So not modern but Was that the was that the episode where it's like, uh, basically, uh, raw talk is playing vet

[01:03:41] Yes, yeah, and I was like, I love that I've been shooting things into their mouth to give them vitamin like it's I was like kind of um, not that I don't know this show very well Because I've only watched it a couple times while babysitting other people's children

[01:03:54] But I was like, oh she would watch like doc mcstaffins And like I don't know what that is Is the disney it's the disney jr. Cartoon about a vet for stuffed animals Oh, yeah, I am too old for that Yeah, me too

[01:04:08] Again for the record. I've watched it while babysitting other people's children I'm also too old for it except that people I know have children Well, no, it's it's like I'm too old to have even heard of it If I didn't like if I didn't like have little cousins

[01:04:25] I wouldn't like Well now when you're babysitting you can show star trek prodigy Yes, there you go But I am thinking that you know, maybe more kids will see it with the show being on netflix instead of paramount plus

[01:04:38] Yeah, it's dreaming service that I feel like kids are more likely to just wander around than paramount plus Yeah, especially because they have like the I mean I guess paramount plus has that too, but it's that kids

[01:04:48] Fump mode that you can just like turn on and a lot of people have that With netflix for their kids God, I considering paramount plus automatically comes the showtime now. I hope they have a kids only version Yeah, I'm sure That's a commercial do I have showtime?

[01:05:04] Yeah, if you have paramount plus you have showtime and that's why you pay 16 dollars a month or whatever whatever If you have the commercial free version If you also I wanted to put the the route that how they announced they were like

[01:05:17] You automatically have showtime now is when prodigy went away and I was like That's not an equivalent The people watching prodigy are not watching I have paramount plus for star trek. Why do I have to pay more for less star trek? Yeah Yeah, um

[01:05:33] Yeah, this oh, what do you do? I do Yeah, yeah the stuff that I was like Some stuff on showtime you look and you're like wait, what is this like? But I um, I don't know if any of y'all went to the uh the mission chicago convention in 2022

[01:05:50] But there was there were a lot of kids there and they had like a big prodigy presence there And a lot of the kids were like they were talking like oh, they loved murt like they did a q&a panel with

[01:06:00] Kate Mulgrew and some other people from the show and they let the you know The kids to the front of the lines that asked the questions and like all the kids were so like intrigued with murt So is that one where there were people in the dowel outfit?

[01:06:13] Yeah, there was there was a cosplayer or not a cos there was like a promotional person in like a A very accurate dowel rubber head. Yeah Sports team mascot type costume It was fun, but creepy at the same time. Yeah, it's like a disneyland care

[01:06:31] Like like mickey and mini at disneyland type version of dowel rl from star trek prodigy a bit creepy, but also cool That's cool. But yeah, I mean kids love murt. I think he has like the best action sequences in the show

[01:06:44] I was I loved cute murt and then I was weirded out when he like evolved But then like I had a lot of fun seeing him like beat up the the tal-shiar romulans on noble isle and And fight dreadnock and I'm immature enough

[01:06:56] I I laughed at the at the cartoon slime worm like uh teasing the robot by like Sticking out his tongue and spanking his butt and like the weird the weird little childish animations but it was

[01:07:08] It's funny and unique and like where else in star trek are you gonna see a melanoid slime worm do that? So, uh, but I don't know what do y'all think about what do y'all think about her? I don't even know what a melanoid slime word actually was

[01:07:18] Well, no one did I still like lobby murt like I don't know To me it feels like he's lost expression when he became humanoid like there's he there's less for him which is not how animation

[01:07:31] Works, typically like the the more the more you can move the more expressive you are I love both of them. I have a very soft spot for like the worst slime one

[01:07:41] But that's because I first saw a picture of murph and went I would die for that character I was like, I don't know what it still is and I would die for him But I do love getting to see more of murph's actual personality like seeing them apparently

[01:07:53] Um, he goes to like new war movies and sings on the stage Yeah, like he's frank Sinatra murph can sing Or he can That was great I will say I don't know how to make a cardboard cut

[01:08:12] I don't know how to make a cardboard cut out of that version of murph because he's got like a dot above the eye going on Yeah, what is that? That's I want to know that thing

[01:08:19] It's it the only other place we've ever seen that in star doing is bam when bam the three pieces of pieces of him Float apart which doesn't make sense either or the starship nacelles in the 32nd century

[01:08:30] Yeah, I do want a little bit more clarification with murph in season two I want to know like is he a dog or is he like a person? What's his level of of sentience, you know, I need I need that clarification

[01:08:43] Yeah, is he a pet or a sea like is it? Oh god our bell in the woods Fly works like dogs in like the mickey and friends universe. You're either goofy or you're pluto. Yeah

[01:08:55] Yeah, I need to know I murph are you a porthos or are you a chubaca like which one? No, I did blow my mind the day someone pointed out to me that goofy empluto or both dogs

[01:09:09] Yeah, that's that's bugged me since I was a kid. That's always that's always bothered me But yeah, I think murph a little more information on him, please

[01:09:17] Maybe maybe he's aging so maybe he he's seen more like a pet because he was more like a toddler in uh, yeah In when he said pew pew pew or whatever the trailer so maybe he actually is going to develop some minor language skills

[01:09:30] Yeah, I think I think he's not done his evolution. Yeah, do we think there's going to be a third? I hope so be a third version like because that's what I feel like I'd be disappointed if if we never if we never see

[01:09:41] You know what I would want if we don't especially if we don't get a season 3 prodigy But like obviously like ideally I want like a season 3 prodigy But if any show needs like the discovery series finale like flash forward to decades later

[01:09:54] Any show is going to do that I really want to see like how these people Yeah, well because you want to see them as adults like I'm supposed to be captain murph. It's like

[01:10:04] Yeah, well that's what we need to know like is he like can he become an officer? Like is that even allowed or is he like or does he have to be someone's pet like spot the cat?

[01:10:13] But I don't know brandy. What do you have any any thoughts on on murph you want to share with us? I I like murph no matter what form he's in Of course

[01:10:21] You know I I looked at the the first version the this is the basic version of murph And thought baby Even though he could get around on his own Now we have toddler murph

[01:10:34] There we go. That's a good. Okay, and yeah, I feel like he's going to keep evolving and I think even a third form I know he's not a poke. He's not a pokemon. He's he can evolve more than three times

[01:10:48] It's not that oh no no I'm thinking about him as Groot But you know, yeah, we saw that with Groot. Yeah, he yeah had his baby era and then

[01:11:00] Oh my god murph in that like teenage group or he'll he'll apparently say awful things, but you can't hear what he's saying Yeah, the translation is uh is lost and it's probably for the best Because

[01:11:16] Like intelligent why why wouldn't the translator at this point have picked up something like trying to translate anyone? It could be like a brain in deep space nine. That's like sometimes sometimes the translator translates to sometimes Sometimes sometimes when they want to those things are just speaking klingon

[01:11:33] Yeah Yeah, that's that's one of those things where it's like okay you were speaking English or federation standard however you want to put it and now you're speaking klingon and Every time that happens you should be hearing the federation standard translation

[01:11:48] As they're speaking klingon, but you never do that you never do that in these shows and I understand why The um, I saw the explanation the universal translator is sent to you and just does it for the drama Not uh, that would be a good moment

[01:12:09] Whatever will be the most dramatic presentation on your on your view screen However, you're receiving it It's just especially especially using brain waves or something. Maybe just you know is that you're like, okay I would like to be in my own native language. Yeah I um

[01:12:23] Because yeah, it's a better moment when he says it in klingon and they have to ask warf to translate He said he said today is a good day to die like yeah Well, we're uh running out of time

[01:12:33] So I want to ask everyone if you have any any final thoughts on season one of star trek prodigy I'll say just the uh the the last thing I think I need to get on the record but

[01:12:43] Of all the seasons of star trek that tried to do, uh, you know a self-contained arc within one season I think the first time we could say that was done was season three enterprise right with the Zindi attack and you know all of that stuff

[01:12:58] You know like every season of pucard and discovery did that and then season one of prodigy And I think out of all of that I think yeah the the 10 hours of of prodigy season There's 20 half hour episodes

[01:13:09] I think that feels like I got the most out of that out of any season Even though it's like shorter than a lot of those but I felt like I got like the most and it also told like the most uh cohesive balanced even

[01:13:22] Story over that entire first season It feels like you got the most story It was all connected But you could actually just jump jump in and and watch another episode just a singular episode and still enjoy it

[01:13:33] Where I think that would be hard to do with some seasons of discovery Where it's like yeah, it's all the cohesive story, but if I want to just watch this one piece. It's like in itself it's not terribly coherent or entertaining maybe it is I'm

[01:13:47] So glad it is on a cb for service again, and it'll be More will be coming out soon because it is one of the shows when people are like, hey What's a good introduction to star trek? I'm like this show. It's good. It explains things

[01:14:00] And it's genuinely just so fun And I love that I now have one I could give to people when they're saying hey my kids interested in star trek

[01:14:09] And I don't have to be like hey, but here's some episodes to skip because they're accidentally racist or they're gonna be inappropriate Uh because like someone's like oh can my kid watch tng? I was like, yeah, actually the third episode. They're gonna get weirdly horny

[01:14:22] Um, maybe skip that for depending on your kid's age. Um, you know your kid best um Because do you do you want to explain to your eight-year-old the fully functional joke? Probably not

[01:14:32] Uh, but the show is genuinely good that so good that I was like no no adults You need to be watching this right now. Yeah Well, thank you can watch it with your kids. It's nice too because it's like you don't have to worry about like, you know

[01:14:43] Like you said it's censoring or skipping anything But you also aren't gonna be like okay. I'm bored and i'm on my phone now because like yeah I'm not interested in what's happening on screen exactly brandy any final thoughts on prodigy season one

[01:14:56] Uh all of the thoughts this this show gave me So many feels and so many times and you know, like I said, I cry a lot Anyway, I cry for every emotion doesn't matter what the emotion is the end result is crying And uh that includes hungry just

[01:15:18] So Yes, especially angry I am angry. What is crying angry? Cranberry. Yeah Yeah, that that too. Hangry and crying is it's It's all related Yeah, I can do all three I I found yeah, I'm I'm capable of complex emotions I can multitask. Yeah Multitasking is a lie any

[01:15:48] Hey No one can do more than one thing at a time. It just doesn't happen guys multitasking is is a lie So it's one of my favorite star tricks ever I think that they brought together an amazing group of

[01:16:05] Actors to do the voices every one of them is pitch perfect. I have no notes I love that we got more Janeway. I I I really hope they give me some closure on Janeway and chicote because by god we deserve it We deserve it. We have waited decades

[01:16:27] so And I appreciate that It is One of those things that it just walks us really fine line between Being juvenile and being adult. It's just like straight down the middle It straddles it so beautifully and that is a hard hard hard thing to do and

[01:16:51] And the writers and directors and the actors they have all made that possible And it's just it's just a perfect little package and I can't wait to have more Well, good news is we don't have to wait much longer So really looking forward to having

[01:17:05] The show back and having like I said the amount of episodes we have will double on July 1st so Very exciting and looking forward to talking about the show in July. I hope people You see us in where eyes are all blurry. You know why

[01:17:20] Yeah, I hope people come back next week. Dave Dave will be back and me and hillam are going to be talking about The things that we want to uh, we hope that we get in season two

[01:17:30] And that'll be a lot of fun and then season two will be here And of course more more trek coming later in the year We still got like a whole season of lower decks at some point and I think we might get that section 31 movie

[01:17:42] Before the end of the year if not early next year in a new season of strange new worlds next year So plenty of trek on the horizon

[01:17:49] So, uh, please come back next week for the things we want to see in prodigy season two and until then as always Live long and prosper y'all and live lugs and proper