114 - The One Where We Recap 2023

[00:00:02] This week on Deep Space Pride, we talk about our top moments in 2023 and catch up on the news of the last couple of months. It's been a while since we've recorded so thanks for joining us.

[00:00:44] Johnson. Hey, Mike. How are you? I'm doing okay. It's been a while. How have you been? It's been a while since we recorded. We've seen each other since last time we recorded. We just, yes. It's been

[00:01:11] a while since our listeners have caught up with us. So right. Exactly. Yes. It's been a while since we've been on here talking about Star Trek exclusively. I know it's been a while.

[00:01:23] It's been a minute. Yeah. But also it's the end of the year. So we wanted to get in one last podcast in 2023 before 2024. I don't know what else to say. The year is over. Yes, it is. How are

[00:01:44] you feeling about that? I'm all right. Yeah, I'm, yeah. I feel like it was a full year. And I know it was a full year, but it was a very full year for me. Yes. Yes. So how are you feeling about

[00:02:00] it? Well, I think it's always the post Christmas. It's nice that there's some time off, but still there's always this weird lull between Christmas and New Year's. And then beginning of

[00:02:14] January is always for your blah. There's not as much to look forward to the holidays or the corner anymore. So it's like now what? And then we have your birthday at the beginning of the year.

[00:02:27] So there's that I suppose. But it's always, it always feels almost like anti-climatic because you have all this build up for the holidays and such in New Year's. And then having a birthday

[00:02:41] around the holidays is always a little strange, I think for most people because I know some people that are like December 24th. Oh my God, you know, I feel bad for you. And December, I mean,

[00:02:52] sorry, beginning of January, of course, it's also a weird time because again, you have all this hype and now what? What is your birthday? Cool, cool. Right. So yeah, you basically have 60 days at the end of the year where you go from Halloween to New Year's. Right. It's

[00:03:08] not stopped. It's nonstop. And it's continuous. Yeah. And by the end of it, you're both exhausted and then you've got the long month of January out of you and right. Yeah. And your midwinter. So you're also looking at that. Yes. So yeah. And usually it's very

[00:03:30] bitterly cold around my birthday. I mean, is usually really cold or I'm very sick. It tends to be one or the other. Oh, last year I was very ill. I woke up. I don't remember on

[00:03:44] New Year's Eve I woke up and I had pink eye. It was terrible. I couldn't see anyone. Yes. It was awful. And it got a sinus infection. It was yeah. So I feel fine the years over. 2023

[00:03:57] is over 2024. I'm not looking forward to 2024 at all. At all. I'm not looking forward. But it's it's election cycle, Mike. I cannot. I cannot. I cannot even think about that. I mean, no, I don't think that's mine.

[00:04:15] Primaries begin in January. It's all down from there. So yeah, I know. I'm not looking forward to it whatsoever. I mean, I've taken a pretty I don't participate in a lot of news reading anyway. So I to avoid at some point impossible to avoid. You know,

[00:04:37] I don't ingest it on a daily basis or even necessarily, you know, on a every couple of you know, it's just I don't ingest it because I just don't want my life is too busy and I've got

[00:04:50] a bunch of other things to worry about. And then sure, you know, yeah, I mean, I'll do what I can and hope that we come out of this. Okay, we survive. Oh no, I'm going to survive. It's just a matter of how many people I need to kill.

[00:05:12] Okay, all right. All right. So yes. All right. No, I wasn't even thinking of 20. I'm, you're right. I'm not excited about that piece, but I've got a lot happening in 2024. So that's true. You do have a lot happening and a lot to look forward to, which is good.

[00:05:32] Yeah. So that's why I'm not trying to I'm trying not to focus on that piece of the news cycle per se. So and you're going to be escaping to South Africa for three months? Yes. Yes. Definitely.

[00:05:50] That's a long time. That's a long period of time. Yeah, but I mean, it's pretty much like a semester abroad, right? It's not, you know, which I never did in college. So,

[00:06:02] you know, a semester abroad is about two months. In my mind, that's a whole quarter. It's a whole fiscal. It is a whole quarter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. So yeah, that's what I'm looking

[00:06:18] forward to. I'm trying not to think about the state of the world too much. I mean, I know it's not good and I know there are a lot of things happening and I am peripherally aware of the general

[00:06:29] situation, but I do not focus on that because I have too much to think about. I think I have to, I am a little, I didn't used to be this way. I feel that since 2016,

[00:06:43] I have been super plugged in for better or for worse. I listened to multiple news podcasts, politics podcasts. Yeah, I am, yeah, I am a little hyper aware, unfortunately. So,

[00:07:00] for better or worse, I didn't think it's good to be aware and to be educated, but at the same time, it might be a little too much. So yeah, I mean, for a lot of people, it's just not

[00:07:11] mentally healthy. So yeah, so that's enough about what we are looking for in 2024. But let's take a look back on this year in Star Trek. But first, I guess we should just

[00:07:27] touch upon a few news items that have come up over the last couple of months since we've recorded and we made that. Has it really been two months? I think it's yeah,

[00:07:37] I want to say it's been October since we've, oh, wow. Maybe we did record in November. I don't remember but okay, it's a long time. But here are the big things and we can just kind of touch

[00:07:48] on them. Number one before recording, we just talked about this, we both were watching PradaGy on Netflix. So that's a nice development and tying into that season two wrapped.

[00:08:06] So and maybe I don't understand how does this mean that they're like it's in the can and ready to go? I think so. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it's ready. It's the finished post production. So

[00:08:20] they are ready to premiere it whenever Netflix wants to as opposed. So we don't have a date yet. Well, this gap between now and April would be a great time to do this.

[00:08:35] The real question is, do you think they're going to drop it all at once or are they going to drop it episodically like they do some series? I think they're going to drop it in two chunks like they do

[00:08:45] with most of their non-reality shows. I think the reality shows only ones that are episodic nowadays or weekly but most of their like the crown and Bridgerton, I mean those are also they're like flat they're flagships. I don't know but they've been new they've been splitting those up

[00:09:04] into two chunks. They did that with The Witcher 2. Yes, they did. But I don't think this I don't know if this is considered this would not be a flagship for them but it's so many episodes

[00:09:16] that I think it makes sense to just do 10 and 10. Yeah or even four drops of five depending on like the arcs you know the arcs that they did in the first part of the project. Yes, they could do that.

[00:09:32] Yeah well hopefully we'll have some prodigies to talk about in early 2024. Yeah hopefully but that was definitely a big news item for 2023 that got saved. We weren't sure what's going to happen for a while it was a few months.

[00:09:47] It was a few months and tours there were these fan petitions going on. And yeah there's a lot happening to save it so I think it was all a pleasant surprise when

[00:09:58] Netflix confirmed that they would be releasing it. Right, yeah now it was a huge cheer I think from around the planet. Yeah and Netflix is a good platform for it because there's so much

[00:10:11] kids content so I mean what kids are subscribing to Paramount Plus give me a break here. Yeah I know even now speaking of that I'm even thinking I've done the annual plan in the last

[00:10:27] couple of years but even now I'm actually thinking about just doing it monthly for however long I need to and then. Well, there's not much else happening. I don't do even watch anything else

[00:10:41] the only other thing not only the show I watch on Paramount Plus might be Halo. I think that's the only other one. Yeah now I only watched like half the first season

[00:10:51] like four or five episodes of Halo. It was okay. It's all right and then I started watching Frasier there's like something like you know brainless to watch and then I found out he's a

[00:11:05] Trump supporter and oh can I say grammar? Yeah, that's over. So I'm like yeah well after that then. So yeah so good news for Prodigy season two raps and the Hageman brothers have said that they

[00:11:24] have have plans for more seasons. I think I read that they have plans for seven seasons. I was like oh wow yeah I don't know that'd be that's a big ask. I don't know if they're gonna get

[00:11:37] seven seasons. Yeah, you never know but yeah I mean the crown went six. Witcher is going four and what else? At least four. There aren't a lot of series that are it just lose the steam most series lose steam nowadays it's hard to sustain that.

[00:11:56] Yeah that's true. Well in other news and this is again I don't know I just wrote down everything that kind of came to mind right so section 31 is moving ahead now with a strike over finally

[00:12:11] it's going into pre-production and I believe Michelle Yo said that they're gonna start filming in March. Yes yes that's exciting I'm interested to see what comes out of this. I mean I love Michelle

[00:12:28] Yo so I'm you know I'm excited about that I'm wondering what century she's gonna end up in and what characters we're gonna see. Right. I hope it's not bad. I just I don't know. I mean

[00:12:43] you know it's gonna be a two hour movie. I don't think I don't want to think she would put her name on anything that's bad I feel like. I mean she was in that which are prequel member

[00:12:57] which are origins or something. Oh I never watched that now I never watched that. It wasn't that good. It's humble like she was a major character but it wasn't it wasn't that good.

[00:13:07] I mean I'm sure they threw money at her so whatever. Right yeah. Yeah it was just to see what they do with it. I mean you know section 31 has kind of been quiet or this whole idea the

[00:13:19] black badges have never really come up again. We haven't even heard of that in Strangely New World so you know it's interesting we didn't even you know nothing in Picard so yeah it'll be interesting to see where what century she landed in and what they're

[00:13:39] gonna do with this whether it's a potential spin-off or whether it's gonna be you know just a one off. Yeah I don't I don't know I'm not sure how much I'm looking forward to it. It's Michelle Yoh so I'm like

[00:13:58] of course I will watch it and it's Star Trek so of course I'll watch it but am I really like salivating for a section 31 movie not really I mean it's fine it's there it will exist which is

[00:14:10] I think it was more interesting as a series that was gonna come out you know in between seasons of discovery I thought that that was gonna be you know and I thought I would bring back

[00:14:23] I can picture him but I can't think of a block but or uh what's this what's the actor's name something Latif or something oh Shazad Latif Shazad Latif yeah I only remember

[00:14:36] a book like or yeah I mean I don't remember Ash Tyler this is correct Ash Tyler there you go good job see there we go there's no better names and it's been a while right into discovery yeah yes

[00:14:54] so Latif there we go yeah there we go back so we get that um let's see strange new world season three is in production now in Toronto so finally do you want to take that test to when

[00:15:09] it's gonna premiere oh uh no I mean I don't think we're lucky end of 2024 yeah I mean to be honest one of one have we been lucky with Star Trek lately you know it's just been one it's been a very up and

[00:15:29] down type roller coaster so yeah and and all right so yeah so I'm excited about that the actors seem pretty psyched about that the writers everybody but then this whole so this is another

[00:15:43] news item which I didn't put in the list and didn't say up front but the other thing is that Paramount is in talks for um right mergers so you know which I think is pretty premature but you know

[00:15:56] the the YouTube you know anything to generate you know ad revenue or like clicks and all this stuff is happening with this stuff I think it's really early days for you know and for this to slip

[00:16:12] out I think it's a little you know your murder actually supposed to be very hush hush it also takes forever you're right these are doing you see go through a ton of approvals and governmental

[00:16:26] regulation yeah yada yada yada plus the boards and the stockholders and all these things so yeah yeah yeah there was talks about this been talks about the murder that's talked about Paramount basically getting their IP sold off there was that too basically getting disassembled

[00:16:50] because it's not really it's they're just not the most profitable company and Paramount plus is not necessarily bringing all the revenue in so right I mean yeah it's I mean it's been a shit show

[00:17:05] run company for a while now so yeah so it's kind of I would say the the future is somewhat uncertain for Paramount and I think subsequently for all their intellectual properties as well

[00:17:19] it's like what's gonna happen one can say that Star Trek would be all right though I think at some you know I think that wherever it lands although I can't imagine them completely letting go of all

[00:17:32] of their Star Trek yeah IP but who knows yeah we'll see I don't think it'll be actually someone else took it on this you know say like a Disney or an Apple or whatever was to buy the Star Trek IP

[00:17:49] I don't think that'd be a terrible thing but no I think that might be a good good business bet for one of the larger companies to know what to do with it yeah yeah essentially that have marketing

[00:18:05] departments and promotional departments and yeah essentially things that show that they're together so and finally Discovery season four is set to start in April or to start not to start start yeah thank you god thinking it's hard right now

[00:18:31] well I'll tell you this period between Christmas and New Year's is also like I had some work to do today I am on PTO technically but I was like sure I'll just move a few things along it took me

[00:18:41] 40 minutes right a two paragraph you know it took so long oh wow it was just I was just multitasking I was distracted I didn't want to I think you don't want to that's not one to

[00:18:58] so because of the lack of wanting it took much longer yes yes yes so yeah anyway yeah no that's how my brain has been working today I mean I did get some things done yeah good um yeah I don't know

[00:19:17] I'm sort of tempted to just take PTO for the next two days but do oh are you working technically yeah technically I'm I'm like I bet I'm one of like I'm the only one I think so I am shocked and

[00:19:30] appalled you work for a church why do you not have the time off those are all very good questions of which we're not going to talk about here on this podcast oh my god I'm actually very shocked

[00:19:43] oh yeah no I'm most of this stuff have taken time off but it's to use time it's not like free time so um yes so and I'm trying to save up my time and use it more judiciously but also save it up for 2024

[00:20:04] sure so yeah um I have a few things I can do so but it's you know no one's bothering me it's fine it's not a big deal got it so um yes I did it's not I took I took a nap this afternoon and watched

[00:20:20] prodigy right so um considering you know why because we drove back from Massachusetts yes last night yesterday yeah and um you know two three hours into the trip which was literally like

[00:20:34] it was a five-hour trip and the first three quarters of the distance was covered in that three hours and the last quarter of the distance was the additional two hours and I was just getting

[00:20:46] sleepy it was dark and I had to have a coffee and so I was up at up until two in the morning oh yeah I knew I knew that that was going to happen but there was not anything I could do

[00:20:58] about it because I needed the stimulation while driving right right I would call it falls behind the wheel it would just happen yeah well it's a good thing you don't have a driver's license so

[00:21:11] you don't have to worry about this I'll be a menace it would be terrible you would be I mean you're a menace on in general but um yes in a car you would be when I'm walking on uh street that has

[00:21:24] that is great has no bumps surface I'm like tripping over myself so yeah um terrible so anyway getting back to discovery uh they showed a clip again it was a

[00:21:40] Michael Burnham and um Booker book book book um on the planet and then I only saw the one clip which was her on that ship and then her riding it at warp and I know they released another one

[00:21:58] but I'll be honest I didn't even bother watching it okay so that was the one they released a long time ago the one you're talking about right I know no so they released one another one

[00:22:07] but she was in she went to some South American comic brazil oh thank you it was like brazil comic con oh there you go great I'm glad see together we're like a whole brain right now

[00:22:20] this is great can't make things happen yeah um so yeah so they showed this clip of her and booked on a planet um with these creatures so um yes that's all I really can can describe I they're either

[00:22:40] camouflaged or warping themselves in short little hops I don't remember what was happening but it was another it was another Michael Burnham exclusive clip um okay with her husband you know and no other personnel from wait are they married this ship oh I don't know I don't know

[00:23:00] no sorry I said I sorry no they're probably not married they're not married they're together no I mean that would be no they no they're not married there was a wedding on the discovery

[00:23:11] there was no wedding on discovery sorry her partner there her partner no I was like done there's something it's not really a member of the crew it's you know it's sort of like I don't

[00:23:22] know is that the constant yes he's a consultant yes yeah who happens to be her partner right which seems to be a huge conflict of interest but anyway um I mean I don't know and there are no

[00:23:38] other crew that could possibly go down to the planet with her um one of my least concerns like smallest concerns about discovery like if you if you want me to get on my soapbox I can but

[00:23:50] I'm not sure I'm not sure we're gonna go there right now now we don't want to go there we'll have plenty of time probably to complain about it later um so yeah so that's coming back in

[00:24:04] April uh so for their final fifth and final season yeah so there is the news yeah I think you pretty much captured all the bay things that he missed I'm trying to think I'm I'm

[00:24:23] speaking solely because I'm like do we do we have anything else happen I glance to the new recent news I didn't see anything I mean obviously obviously we had months and months of nothing

[00:24:36] because of the strike right and so you know by the time the strike was over it was fall and like life was one thing I want to talk about yeah have you been keeping up with the delta

[00:24:48] flyers podcast oh a little bit I don't yeah so I've reached the point where either I need to listen to it on 1.5 speed or I need to pick and choose which episode is I'm gonna listen to

[00:25:01] okay okay uh it's just too long and I you know like they literally go through the show right uh scene by scene right so I like it I like it I like it yeah the most recent episode was

[00:25:17] over two hours with Armin I do think it's smart because they're basically having Terry and Armin trade off okay yeah I think it's actually smart because the first episode would you cover MSR

[00:25:28] which is a lot there were moments when I was like okay there's too many people on this podcast it was like that I didn't think so because you know Terry as you learn you know and and I

[00:25:39] I'm enjoying it too other than the fact that they they need a Star Trek expert on there to kind of sell in like the information that we as it's kind of the charm because sometimes you can you know even on

[00:25:51] during Voyager they were saying things I was like this is not correct oh well I never really listened very much to them talking about Voyager because we all know that Voyager is not my favorite

[00:26:03] sure fair iteration of the show that we love yeah um yeah you listen to a podcast like ours if you want the in-depth Star Trek knowledge kind of sometimes though we also forget to whatever

[00:26:20] you can read memory alpha I think what's interesting about the Delta Flyers podcast and I think the reason why I brought it up is because they couldn't talk about Star Trek during the strike so I was

[00:26:31] they did a whole season a quote one season which was their interviews and I was so excited once they finally premiered their DS9 rewatch and I'm really liking it and I really now really want to

[00:26:44] rewatch all DS9 actually because they're talking about these episodes and I vaguely remember season one season one was good but not great and I really now have this longing to go back and watch all

[00:26:59] of it again because I do really bring a lot of interesting insight because obviously Robert and Garrett have not watched DS9 before so this Robbie is a director too so he looks at it

[00:27:13] from the director's point of view right um you know Garrett brings good insight too like he's he's an actor but he he'll talk about stuff from a lot like things like that I'm like oh that's

[00:27:24] fascinating Armin has a lot of great insight he he just knows a lot about the production of it all which is very interesting yeah and Harry's just fantastic of course I like her but it's great obviously about the personalities and they're they're banter honestly in love is they're

[00:27:43] banter and they're actually really all very funny so I don't know that's great yeah I mean I you know I do enjoy them um I do get annoyed with them sometimes because it's like sometimes it's

[00:27:55] like one upmanship between the two of them between Robbie and Garrett they're like sometimes you know it's it's like that sometimes and I and I like Garrett don't get me wrong but it's sometimes

[00:28:07] what I've noticed is that like Garrett likes to jump in because he's got something to say he's like that kid that's like not going to be patient and wait till you finish because he's got something

[00:28:16] to say it's right so that that gets on my nerves a little bit like but I understand it's not like they're recording in person they're doing it over zoom yeah whatever yes so you sometimes you

[00:28:30] have to talk about people like I'm doing right now just to get a get something in yes exactly so I do understand that but you know like if you yeah it's just one of those things that I thought like

[00:28:42] after God how many episodes that they've done that they'd be a little bit more like balanced with like oh you know I know when Robbie stops to talk or you know I know when Garrett stops to talk

[00:28:56] that I can talk you know and like just a little more in sync with one another oh bother me actually oh okay but I love Terry you know Terry doesn't know a lot about the show it's funny because I did listen to the emissary version uh podcast one

[00:29:14] and episode and uh you know uh Armin was just bringing a lot of like he was the first actor to be yes because so he got to see a lot of the product you know a lot of supplements

[00:29:29] Terry was like so it's very interesting um so yeah uh no that was very interesting yeah it just uh I can't sit through an hour of them going through piece by piece of episodes

[00:29:43] and yes I was watching it with them which I so side note like I I did uh so Will and Grace um how they have a new podcast with Eric McCormick and Sean Hayes they're doing they're doing the same thing they're going through their own their own show

[00:30:01] I'm nervous and Will and Grace by the way I'm a bad guy oh my gosh I know what the fuck oh my word so I love watching the episodes before they talked about it

[00:30:10] um again we're talking about a 20 minute comedy you know episode so it's not right it's not quite they sort of do go through the episode piece by piece or scene by scene right but you know a 45

[00:30:24] minute 40 minute Star Trek episode when they're like really like going into like the nitty-gritty I'm like uh like no yeah it's just a lot it's a lot um so I do like those type of episodes

[00:30:39] but I just don't think I can commit to it all the time okay yeah I'm listening to it while I'm like working out or like if I'm like going somewhere so I prefer audiobooks I mean you know I've listened

[00:30:51] to over 100 audiobooks in 2023 so okay audiobooks that's I know you do yeah I'll read I just listen to podcasts so yeah so we we just have different things uh that we like so right but right but I

[00:31:06] do you know I was excited about them doing the episode you know the episode watched through of it but you know I just I'm excited for them to get into the good stuff like you know the like scene

[00:31:17] too so in like two years or whatever well uh it's the I mean there's one off where they're really you know they're really outstanding episodes yes yes yes yes yeah so well they covered all of Voyager in three and a half years because they record literally weekly

[00:31:39] yeah yes it was also it was also covid so they sort of did have that you know that no um the time to do it right but they kept

[00:31:51] it like we had just like we had a lot of time on our hands during covid so we recorded every week sure yeah yeah they kept it up every week but they also have patrons and things like that so

[00:32:03] I know I was like it's crazy they have people who pay like hundreds of dollars a month for their podcast yeah like wow mm-hmm yeah it's a revenue source for them no yeah absolutely no I until so I think

[00:32:21] they maybe even on that like the emissary episode they're like right off like a bunch of names and I looked at what level those are all like those are like 250 dollars a month yeah yeah patrons 250

[00:32:33] dollars a month yeah it's a lot I was like oh my gosh so yeah no I you know I'm happy for them that they can make the extra money speaking of which do you ever so do you watch do you also

[00:32:49] watch let's listen to the shuttle pod show no what's that that's the that's the dom domino keating and oh no um why can't I think of his name I can see him um gosh oh my gosh which one uh

[00:33:08] tucker tucker who plays oh I don't remember man unfortunately that's what I said I'm really sorry we need to be an expert on this podcast we do yes we do um I'm back on games I don't I don't remember

[00:33:23] someone who does names yes Connor Trinear thank you yes yes oh my gosh and I did not look that up that came from my brain I did not go anywhere to get that I mean if you sit it would recognize it

[00:33:34] I could if you said all the names I would be able to match them so characters so yeah so actually dom just posted something that he's stepping away from the show in 2024 for what are they doing are

[00:33:47] they rewatching all of enterprise no so they they have all they have a ton of guests you should take a look and see they've had some they've had they they've done some really um interesting

[00:33:59] interviews I mean they do do some re like they do some watches with patrons and things like that and they yeah it yeah I mean there's some really good stuff in there and you know I have to say that

[00:34:12] Dominic is like a researcher like we just jump on here and like start chatting away about show you know he has like done all the homework so let's just say like so they did an interview

[00:34:26] with Jonathan Frakes Terry McTales all these people oh wow they went like deep and like got into their like history and whatnot so cool um sort of like you know how Gates did her yeah her episodes

[00:34:40] like she's she's really well researched so I you know they yeah they do they do a bunch of different types of episodes um so yeah um but I guess he's stepping away from the show and he

[00:34:54] and his post he really didn't say why but um yeah I mean it does you know you you know you do like gets away sometimes who knows yeah life does get in the way sometimes so um yeah um

[00:35:10] so well we've chatted now for a good half an hour about a bunch of different things or so why don't we talk about 2023 so our homework assignment or I mean I did tell you you just

[00:35:24] did your homework literally as you walked into class um great job you um was to come up with top three moments for you in Star Trek for 2023 okay so are we going one at a time yeah let's just

[00:35:39] do one at a time one at a time all right yeah purpose mic well I have to say all right so my number one and I just rewatched it um is Star Trek Picard's episode nine Vox okay where um

[00:35:56] you know where I mean ultimately we're we get to the last five minutes of the show which is every kid who grew up on next generation which is both of us you know I mean it's just amazing

[00:36:09] obviously seeing the Enterprise D back in action so but it's overall it's also a great episode that you know Todd Staswick dies and by this point you're actually kind of like him

[00:36:24] so you leave Rafi and Seven on the ship on the Titan and um yeah it's just uh I think it's also the yeah it's the episode where I get all all you know it's Federation Day so you see the

[00:36:40] Enterprise F in its last voyage you see you know you see Admiral Shelby you see all the things so that was probably the greatest episode I mean 10 is excellent too I mean the was it the next

[00:36:58] generation or the I figure what they call the last generation the last generation um so um yeah for by far that has to be my number one thing from for Star Trek this year is um I mean over

[00:37:16] season three is really the the winner for me but if we had to pick an episode or something that I would go and watch okay just watch last week when I was sleeping on the couch because

[00:37:26] Dennis said the flu uh that would be my number one choice for one three yeah yeah how about you so you kind of cheated I just I said for car season three like I did pick like one episode

[00:37:41] you did yeah I mean okay so once you said Vox I I did like it um I definitely the reveal of the Enterprise D was a moment and I really enjoyed it but I think I have like I have nippets about

[00:37:59] basically each episode and some of the choices that they made sure you know for example one of them might make my biggest issues with episode nine is that they took so long to find reveal

[00:38:10] that it was the board I'm like my god and then the traditions were kind of just thrown to the side and we spent most of the time like you know that's a narrative issue this is narrative structure

[00:38:20] issue so if I had to like kind of you know I have nippets basically about each episode which is why I think you know but I would say one of top moments top moment overall was probably

[00:38:31] yes the reveal of the Enterprise D um in the museum but I would say season three as a whole if I had to kind of take it as you know in totality I would say it's probably you know

[00:38:44] probably one of the biggest highlights of the year so yeah I don't I don't disagree I don't disagree at all uh yeah yeah and yeah I would say yes I would say episode nine episode ten

[00:38:58] um the some of the early episodes they were good too it dragged in the middle a little bit but overall I think that it was a very strong season that really looked up to the height

[00:39:10] thankfully I was like god you know and you know me I really didn't love season one and two I thought that they had their moments but overall they were so disappointing I was like my god

[00:39:20] so I think it season three for me made the Bacard revival worth it I feel that this is really worth it I've gotten in the beginning but at the end of the day you can't get everything

[00:39:31] that you want it's okay um but yes it made the uh made the whole effort the whole journey worth it so right yeah I think I agree like getting yeah getting season three though we needed to have

[00:39:44] season one and two only because actually we didn't need it maybe but uh Patrick Stewart needed it I just needed it he needed season one and two to kind of realize he needed what he really

[00:40:03] yes he needed to complete his journey he also needed to understand that while he was doing this new thing really what brings the adulation of of all of these Star Trek fans who grew up on next generation

[00:40:17] and those who you know didn't grow up on a bit love it um is what happened in season three and um I think that that was a lesson that he needed to learn

[00:40:30] and I'm glad that we got the opportunity we gave him the opportunity because we got season three we also got an incredible you know showrunner in Terry Metallis so which we couldn't have gotten he wasn't available on season two is wrapping up his

[00:40:48] 13 monkeys show I think was that I thought they I thought he was working no I think 12 monkeys wrapped up a wild 12 monkeys I think 12 monkeys I think season two he started working on

[00:41:02] but then they basically had him go to season three to start pre-production to start playing for it you should listen to the shadow pod show and uh as he talks to that I I think he was wrapping

[00:41:15] up something he was wrapping up something and I think season four might have been more recent given but anyway anyway um but we got Terry Metallis who is an excellent showrunner too so I you know

[00:41:32] you don't need to research it right now it's okay well now just now I need to know uh no you're right you're right um I just I just and you know what I watched like half of 12 monkeys

[00:41:45] season one and it was dark and depressing and I don't usually mind it but after a while I was I'm tired of it um so he's wrapped in 2018 12 monkeys so I don't know well I might have wrapped

[00:42:01] I mean did a wrap or did it you know like did that work you know anyway or whatever finale air July 6 2018 so oh really oh so the wild girl yeah so maybe there's something else and he was working on I

[00:42:14] can't I honestly um but uh anyway we got Terry Metallis out of it so yeah I agree season three was definitely uh yes made it worth it yeah it had the right showrunner and I think it would

[00:42:28] you know had we had to go through that whole process right so right so what's your number two for are you gonna cheat again we're doing like a snake pole kind of style okay so my number two was those

[00:42:44] old scientists oh that's mine too okay I mean whatever uh those old scientists was my favorite episode from season two of stranger worlds it I feel all it was like one of those episodes where

[00:43:02] everything fell into place I think the the cast fell into place director just everything about it it just like made sense and it just resonated it's like I think one of those worm moments when

[00:43:13] all the planets are kind of aligned and everything just makes sense literally like one of the best episodes of star trek like ever in my mind it was funny it was heartfelt it progressed a plot

[00:43:28] it just did everything and it was so well done and you can tell the cast is having a great time it just I don't know everything just worked and it's great on rewatch I don't even know what to

[00:43:41] talk you know we can we've talked about it extensively as well so we don't need to rehash all of it but literally like one of the most enjoyable episodes of star trek I've ever seen

[00:43:49] so yeah yeah it was just it was so good it was okay I agree um since you made that your number two I'm just gonna go further down the line so I was um I was surprised at how much on

[00:44:04] second viewing I ended up liking liking subspace rhapsody I watched it a couple times too on second run I really started to enjoy it and then it's actually probably one of my top five

[00:44:20] played soundtracks on my oh my god really oh yeah I just I love the acapella opening I love you know I love the the underlying music um you know I have my fit you know it's just

[00:44:36] and I'm not that person we've talked about this before we're not we are not broad-way no so um we're not we're very not this this episode grew on me and grew on me and grew on me

[00:44:49] so yeah so we had a really super ending to that season I felt like Jean those old scientists I don't even remember what episode eight was about um episode I think the war episode the war episode it was the it was the um

[00:45:07] where he lost his memory no no it's it's when nurse chapel and the manga kind of oh oh yeah that was a good episode okay on war oh yeah yeah oh that was it remember it was like very his whiplash from

[00:45:22] from those old scientists you know I don't know what name the war episode just such a rhapsody musical that was like very extreme which I think makes you know that's why it

[00:45:34] works as a show or you can do that but yeah no I I want to say that that whole second like that that whole four episode block was really good at I mean at hegemony or however

[00:45:46] you want to say that freaking word hegemony everyone's um it was still an excellent season cliffhanger and um got a lot of questions about what's coming next and

[00:45:59] I still think it's gonna be fine I feel most I feel they're all gonna be okay okay I hope so but I but I think this is the I I'm in I am enjoying and not enjoying being in this moment where

[00:46:11] you don't know you just don't know it's like in stasis it's like it's a very uh strung just cat situation it's both a lot at the same time yes exactly exactly totally that and

[00:46:22] it's also like it's like you had three months of best of both worlds now we have like two years of the best of both worlds part one and part two so um yeah so yeah so I will say all of those

[00:46:37] episodes but definitely kicked off with um season seven and those old scientists oh god so um so yeah so yep uh seeing tani nuesome and jack quaden live action playing their characters that we love

[00:46:56] so good they're so good so good oh my god I love just their onscreen chemistry like the real onscreen chemistry not just yeah version and they just did a good job embodying their characters

[00:47:12] I don't know it was it was really fantastic yeah yeah I loved it so strange new worlds was the knockout actually between you know between season three of um so here's the other thing about

[00:47:27] Picard season three is is the first season of star trek that where I actually wanted I've not yet gone out and bought the dvds the blu rays of it just because I love it that much oh wow

[00:47:39] I don't do this on media anymore but I don't really either but this is one of those things where I was like yeah that is that's how much I love that but I would also throw season two of strange new worlds

[00:47:52] even though you know first couple of episodes I mean well the second episode was the real one with with the courtroom but um I thought the first half was had his moments I I love the

[00:48:05] yeah so I circle was kind of okay I like the spark one oh yeah that was yeah it kind of rehash old territory but I it was so very enjoyable yeah yeah not everyone loved it for some reason

[00:48:22] because it was kind of a rehash of like the body swap one oh yeah but yeah season one but yeah yeah it's I select it basically whenever we can like fuck with spot I'm like yes I'm there for it

[00:48:40] so all right should we do number three yes well since we're doing kind of like snake pulls down do you want to do you want to go sure I mean uh I mean so I'm going to pull a

[00:48:53] Johnson for this part I'm going to say lower deck season four was okay by far really great my number three was the lower decks finale the oh yeah okay yeah but why don't you continue

[00:49:09] well no I just thought you know uh so the feeling that season four gave me was the same feeling that I got with season one and I loved that we had progressed the characters to lieutenant jg's and that there was some development we're not in that like the

[00:49:26] perpetual ensign harry kim moments here yes you know we did eventually uncover mariners issue although that was a little bit I know I know you don't like that piece of it but

[00:49:41] but overall like as a season so I struggle I forget season three I kind of struggled with I want to say or is it season two I think it was season three like I think it's in three

[00:49:53] season three I struggled with and I was like it just wasn't it was more felt more the same of like seasons one and two um it did get better but um in season three towards the end I think but

[00:50:06] for an overall season of lower decks this one brought me back to the first season feeling of this is fresh this is new this is fun this is just great star track um and

[00:50:22] to anyone who's not an animated person like someone who watches animated shows which there are people out there who you know who will not watch like the musical episode of strange new worlds I sort of

[00:50:35] understand that but not watching it doesn't make sense to me but um but also not watching animated star track because it's animated and therefore it can't be real star track is absolute bullshit

[00:50:50] like probably oh my god one of the first yeah like prodigies yes yeah star track yeah yeah we had a lot of commentary on that's probably good I mean we yeah so yeah so overall I would say season four

[00:51:03] all you know and I'm I'm starting to enjoy like and I pointed out to you like I'm starting to enjoy like the even things like the opening credits like the probe was in the opening

[00:51:14] credits which you didn't even notice about until I pointed out to you like halfway through the season oh my gosh so yeah so I'm I'm I'm yeah yeah so season four just was great all around I mean I'm

[00:51:29] Mike McMahon uh just is a genius I know I'm feeling going beyond season five I hope so too I really hope so I really don't yeah I don't hope we don't need like in order to save the show campaign

[00:51:44] not bad show up and I was so annoying yeah so what was your number three was it well my number three was the finale the last two episodes of season four of lower decks

[00:51:55] and I think that yes I agree with you that overall the season was good my issue with season four was this this uh this bigger story that was happening but it kind of started dragging a little

[00:52:09] bit it was just like you know not much is being added to the story each week and we were kind of being told like oh there's a little bit of sterilization but I was like all right it's just the

[00:52:20] same thing over and over again basically until the very end and honestly I think everything just came together and crystallized in episodes nine and ten of season four the Nick McConnell thing

[00:52:33] I was just like what the fuck but in a good way I was like what the fuck like it's it was so great how Mike McMahon brought in that character and I'm sure that Robert Dougum knew had a great time

[00:52:48] but thanks for reviving that character I am sure that Robert Dougum you know not in like a million years would have thought that that character of all characters would have gotten any sort of

[00:52:57] revival so and you know like uh I think uh Mike man he did say like no no one's getting because you were guessing what it was and oh yeah yeah like no one's close no one's close yeah I just

[00:53:13] put a deep cut but at the same time it makes so much sense for the show because it really did bring it back to the whole genesis of how this whole lower decks thing began in TNG and you know

[00:53:27] the whole catalyst for that was because of what happened in the first 2D then led to Encincydo going on her journey which then we find out you know it all just like it's very meta in some

[00:53:39] ways and then also kind of just makes sense for the show so I think I thought it was just like really beautifully crafted as a story but then also just the random out left feel like resurrection

[00:53:52] of looking at Carnot hours that was fantastic and then at least you and I liked like the whole thing excuse me the the whole uh basically remaking of the wrath of cotton in finale never loved that actually people some people thought it was too on the nose

[00:54:09] but I reelected it I thought I did too I thought it was really well done and yeah there was just so many things that I think just worked really well I mean we get to see captain Boimler which was kind

[00:54:22] of cool that was cool yeah as one of my happier moments of of that um yeah and then they brought in just like random threads from the season like when Rutherford and Livak they had to like resolve

[00:54:40] their friendship being marked 20 like it was like so random but it just like random things just you know these through lines that they pulled back in I thought was just really spectacular and Tendi's journey like even that like the whole thing with Orion's that was just touched

[00:54:58] on early in the season but then we you know that was brought back in the finale as well there was just like a lot of things about it that I thought were just really well done and just from a pure

[00:55:07] storytelling standpoint really well constructed so you know I was I really enjoyed that too partner yeah no um so yeah I was just thinking that we you know we really had a pretty awesome 2023 when it comes to Star Trek yeah I mean the episodes 30 solid episodes of

[00:55:30] was the scruffy 2023 oh I didn't I well I wasn't counting discovery what it was uh is this like I'm telling you the car in San Juan and Lumber Dacks there's 30 episodes right there of really really good uh Star Trek so I don't think we're gonna get that anytime

[00:55:51] in the future so I think that you know 2023 is gonna go down as one of the oh my god oh my god discovery was 2020 March of March of 2022 oh my god time means nothing I was like wait

[00:56:06] what's this every year it was not it was early last year yeah so yeah so I think I think we're gonna look back at 2023 and be like that was like the golden year of Star Trek

[00:56:19] um and I think we'll have pockets of that in the future but I don't think we'll have a block like that yeah of that much new Star Trek that was I mean you know Picard is done

[00:56:32] so no more chances for Picard right um although he is you know Patrick Stewart is trying to buy for one more next generation movie I don't want to do it like I kind of like let's just end on a high

[00:56:45] note yeah I mean my stuff would be that we go to Star Trek Legacy which would be really great oh yeah sure I mean I think we have some cameos for legacy I think that that would be great but I don't we

[00:57:01] don't need another like Picard season 3.5 like I don't yeah I don't know that no I think it went on a really nice high note so yeah yeah all right well those are top moments of 2023 um

[00:57:16] do you have let's jump ahead and look ahead to 2024 which right now does not look all that exciting I don't know it's very yeah I just don't based on the scheduling everything it just might look very

[00:57:30] sparse that's the I think that's the biggest issue well we know we'll get Star Trek Discovery finale and we will get Lower Decks yes so we'll get Lower Decks season 5 um we'll be looking forward

[00:57:45] to to uh Discovery season 5 Mike would say what say that again how much are you looking forward to to you know I I wish I I will say this I wish I was looking forward to discovering more

[00:57:59] I'm disappointed that I am not looking forward to it more and I love I love the ensemble and I think that that's my main challenge with Discovery is the I love the actors

[00:58:15] and the characters that they've created and I just wish it was more of a ensemble show no and I think that that I really thought about this I was like when they announced that

[00:58:28] you know when they started announcing some discovery stuff I was like I really want to be excited about Discovery and I'm not why am I not and then I just sort of figured it out like

[00:58:39] it's just not a it's not produced as an ensemble show and they've got such an incredible um incredible cast so I think that's what I struggle with the most is the fact that it's

[00:58:52] not an ensemble show and I want it to be I really want it to be yeah so and and that was reinforced by the scene I know that I know that um Seniqua was in Brazil for the conference

[00:59:08] you know for the Comic Con and they you know so it makes sense to have a Seniqua scene but I the problem is that and I do love her as an actress I think she's very talented

[00:59:21] I think you know I I just think that you know it's just it's just more the same of like you know the and it's I just want to see more of the other characters I really do great right

[00:59:35] you know it's the it's it's the opposite problem that we have with Deep Space Nine right you know like we have all these characters but we're just not developing them we're not building stories around them we're instead focusing on one character and

[00:59:52] everyone else is sort of supporting that character's journey and I just I struggle with that it's you know I want I want more and I you know I think that the main thing is you know

[01:00:05] as a gay man who watches this show I think I would love obviously love to see just more Paul Samuelsson and Culber you know so Dr. Culber and you know that's an important thing I think Adira and Gray bring a nice bring to it

[01:00:23] I love all of the bridge crew I want them to have more of a part in this you know I think Saru and Doug Jones is fantastic I miss Mary Wiseman like what has happened to

[01:00:36] Mary Wiseman I think she seemed to have her own thing going on yeah like a real world thing yeah yeah exactly but you know I just I just want I just want those people to be more a part of it

[01:00:54] right you know I don't you know I want I want the crew to be more part of it I don't you know the admiral's nice you know he's a great actor I don't need the drama with

[01:01:04] the Federation president like I just don't need that you know although I love the romance between Saru and the Vulcan president or the Navar president yes I like that kind of interesting

[01:01:21] that's a new and interesting dynamic but I just I just wish there was more of that and so I you know you know so I I feel like it's gonna wrap and I'm gonna still feel underwhelmed by my my I just I

[01:01:38] just have this feeling that I'm just gonna feel underwhelmed by the finale and what that what it kind of wraps up for the characters that I love yeah which are all of them you know I you know so

[01:01:52] that's that's sort of what I'm and I'm sorry I didn't want to get on a soapbox no it's fine I've got my Discovery soapbox so many times on this podcast that you're allowed once in a while

[01:02:05] to step onto your discoveries well you know I I finally you know I figured it out I figured out what was bothering me and now I really dug deep into it have we talked about this before though

[01:02:16] we've you and I you and I have talked about this we've never talked about this on there we've only talked about this I mean we definitely complain about how ridiculous it how ridiculous it is when people we've talked about pieces of this yeah absolutely yeah

[01:02:33] yes we've talked about that that is for sure but I think I find the problem it's symptomatic of the larger issue yeah these are all sim we've talked about the symptoms I'm

[01:02:41] telling you what the disease is and the disease is just not an ensemble it's not an ensemble I mean part of the I think part of the part of the issue as well though is that and I think that this

[01:02:53] is you know at the end of the day you don't need to talk about Discovery I do not need to get my Discovery soapbox yeah right yeah all things a good show um which is you know that's a lot to say

[01:03:05] but I think fundamentally I think they've done serialized dramas poorly like you know as I think they are like this needs to be serialized because that's what all the new shows are doing

[01:03:17] back in 2016 2017 2017 yeah we need to do this and the best way to serialize this is to focus it on one character and then it just kind of became the Michael Barnum show I think unfortunately and

[01:03:33] I think that the way that they decided to serialize it was to kind of make one person the hero which can work but you know like I think that in this case I I think that unfortunately I don't think

[01:03:47] they pulled off very well I think that Picard if we want to talk about Picard you know season one and two you know I think had a lot ups and downs obviously I think why season three was so strong

[01:04:01] as a serialized story is because everyone got a chance to shine you know you you kind of spread the wealth a little bit it wasn't even though it's called Sartre Picard it wasn't just

[01:04:09] about Picard and I think that's what made it great and season one two on the other hand I think had a lot of fumbles because you kind of had to keep on going everything had to tie back to Picard

[01:04:23] and his journey and it's hard to do that it's hard to like do that well unless you you know I think at least Patrick Stewart has a lot of credit you know and the character of Picard has

[01:04:36] that legacy so he has more going for him but it's a lot to put the whole show in one person's characters and also be like we need to tell the serialized story that needs to take place over 10 fucking

[01:04:47] episodes you know and it's a mystery box show so I don't know uh I agree with your points I'm hoping honestly though I'm hoping I think that is the point though that the magic box

[01:04:59] thing and uh hero the singer what does it call mystery box yeah yeah mystery box the mystery box the mystery box thing and the is that your dog being deceptive yes he's been sleeping all day

[01:05:15] long and he decides that every time I get on a podcast he needs to chew his bone every time so yeah I think I think that's the thing we never they stuck with the formula of a single hero

[01:05:31] and serialized storytelling with a mystery box right formula and they just like repeated it over and over again and like raise the stakes up another level or 10 every season instead of really just

[01:05:47] saying uh is this working uh can we why don't we change it up and do something different maybe next season we better because I heard that they want it to be more episodic actually

[01:06:01] so maybe there'll be more of a chance to you're like no I'm shaking my head like now that I think yeah that's whoever said that or wherever you heard that is yeah I know I think the show

[01:06:14] how to say it in an interview I thought she did I bet she did because yeah anyway all right enough about discovery anything all right let's talk really quickly 2024 what we're looking forward to what what we're looking forward to I got you on to a discovery

[01:06:35] soapbox I specifically you did you did I want to go there you gave me the opening and here we are I'll tell you one thing that I'm looking for I am looking for to season five of Lord X but I also

[01:06:46] am looking forward to David Mack I believe it's David Mack is writing a Star Trek Picard novel called Firewall all about seven of nine I'm actually looking forward to that there has been

[01:06:59] a dearth of kind of Star Trek media beyond TV which I think is challenging because I love that stuff and especially when they turn it into audiobooks I love that it makes it much more accessible for me

[01:07:17] so but I am looking forward to this one so those are my two things that I'm looking forward to I don't think we're gonna get strange new worlds and see some three

[01:07:27] next month next year yes next year and do you just kick your dog what you do I distracted him yes so he leaves the freaking bone alone I'd rather have my lap being needy that way rather than

[01:07:46] chewing on a bone being distracting the whole you know last 10 minutes of this episode um I'm yeah I isn't there still that um that con audio spinoff you know talking about yes I've

[01:08:02] yeah which we haven't heard anything about we have not heard anything about that I am not holding my breath I don't know if that's gonna happen but yeah I don't know that it's so I listen to

[01:08:14] remember I listened I did listen to I think you listen to it too the one hour 90 minutes Rafi seven audio book that they did oh you didn't listen to it I thought that was pretty good

[01:08:29] I'd have to listen to it again um I don't know it's just yeah I don't know how play like doing that con thing is gonna play out in that but yeah I don't know it's you know it's another one of those projects that they've talked about

[01:08:44] that I've just like disappeared kind of like section 31 did for like five years so I think the next Calvin movie oh the next one yes lulls yes um yeah so anything else you're looking forward anything you're specifically looking forward to in 2024 I I don't know I feel that

[01:09:15] 20 you know to your point I feel 2023 which is such a good year I just don't I'm sure in the next season maybe again maybe we'll get something at the end of 2024 when it comes to strange new worlds

[01:09:32] season three maybe maybe not I'm sure next season will also be good hopefully but I feel we don't have something like um like a car season three to look forward to

[01:09:45] you know yeah we knew that going in 2023 the car season three was gonna be a thing we knew it was gonna be a real time coming back yeah all game really I just don't feel that we have that we don't

[01:09:58] I don't feel we have a tent pole like that to look forward to yeah hopefully hopefully we will be surprised and delighted by prodigy season two yep you know I'm looking forward to that too I

[01:10:11] you know I want I want prodigy season two to be phenomenal obviously yeah but we have no news on that something we give up a car season three like object to really look forward to you know what I mean

[01:10:24] yep now you're right yeah yeah it's certainly not discovery season five discovery season five is not that for me so yeah that's a thing that's a thing if I had to kind of like compare 2024 to

[01:10:37] 2023 between it being election year and not having the cars season three to look forward to it's like all right here we are you know right yeah exactly so yeah yeah so we'll have to see

[01:10:50] uh I think we're gonna look back at 2023 as being one of those banner years in Star Trek history so it might be hard I mean my next year I'd be like wait what was 2020 again because apparently

[01:11:02] I thought that discovery was also early this year so I have no idea I mean how to like uh yeah somehow uh like fuse into a memory that 2023 was when all these things happened

[01:11:17] yeah yep yeah so yep for sure well there we go there's our recap of 2023 and what we're looking for into 2024 and maybe we will also uh record more frequently a tout hit or regular I don't foresee

[01:11:37] life getting any less busy but maybe who knows um who knows uh yeah I'll be like hey Mike we didn't want to chord crickets like just kidding as I mean it's it's been tough to like come up

[01:11:51] with the energy and the time to do this because always tired oh yeah I mean we are always tired yeah always tired and uh yeah procedure yeah so yep um but there we go there's our recap and

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[01:15:26] thanks fansets all right another episode in the our final episode of 2023 I am hopefully we can publish it hopefully can publish it before the end of 2023 yep yes yes yes yes this is the thing

[01:15:45] yes you're gonna you're off you're gonna write the notes and yes I am going to edit out the a few bits and then put it all together can you edit out your dog like the whole time like

[01:15:58] for that you know uh sure yeah I there's nothing I can do about that him fighting that bone every time so distracting yes I know yes no it's just right on brand for my life yep right on brand sleeps all day and then I get on podcast and

[01:16:20] now he's chew the bone and now he has a squeaky toy so yeah this is nice nice nice great times great times but yes well thanks everybody for listening and we will talk to you again in 2024 will we

[01:16:39] we'll see what happens hopefully yes we will of course we will okay and between your phone going off and their dog this is over yeah you know it's over yes this is the worst yes well you know if we had

[01:16:53] a real audio engineer who could pull all this stuff out it would be great but I thought there's a lot to edit I don't know yeah what are we the guys saying we don't have that so we're just

[01:17:02] gonna have to live with it this is real life folks okay all right well five of one have a good new year yeah happy new year everyone and we'll talk to you soon bye deep space pride is a production

[01:17:32] of coconut media works executive producers bill smith and dan davidson for more great star trek discussion discover the other shows of the trek geeks podcast network at trekgeeks.com or find us in apple podcasts spotify or your favorite podcast app