113 - The One with Lower Deckers in Caves

[00:00:02] This week on Deep Space Pride we catch up on life, some Star Trek news, what else we've been watching and the latest episode of Lower Decks. Thanks for joining us! Hey Mike! Well hello there Johnson! How are you? I've been doing okay.

[00:01:03] It's been a while since we were recorded. I feel like these are what monthly at the moment? Was it as of been a month? I don't even know. Maybe over a month. I don't know. Time seems to be warped. Slip through our fingers! It really does.

[00:01:14] It's going faster and faster. It is. The end of the year is fast approaching and we're almost to Halloween too so. Well I'm already starting to make Thanksgiving plans with people all. Wow. It's already kind of glad to run the quarter.

[00:01:29] I don't believe I have had my invitation yet. No I haven't planned out everything. I've been invited to a Friendsgiving and I'm planning a Friendsgiving with... So one's being hosted by someone else and I need to mark my calendar and then another

[00:01:46] one I'm hosting but it's with the Bible study group from church so. Got it. I haven't even started planning more personal ones. Okay. Are you guys doing anything? Are you guys doing anywhere? We're staying here for Thanksgiving. We're staying here. Okay.

[00:02:05] We have oddly enough Hamish has a grooming the day after Thanksgiving which is weird. Oh, weird. And yeah so we made tentative plans for or we made a reservation at the Smith because that's where we went last year but we're looking at some other places that don't have

[00:02:24] reservations of because it doesn't really make sense for us to cook for two and it's too much for us to cook so. The Smith is on mediocre though. What? The Smith is on mediocre. It's not mediocre I would say it's serviceable. It's serviceable exactly.

[00:02:44] It's like in a middle of the room. It's middling yes. Yeah there's other places we want to go but they haven't opened up reservations yet. So we just needed a backup plan.

[00:02:56] So I don't even know if Dennis is working yet so there is that all we have all we have gotten to at this point is November 14th with some look ahead to Thanksgiving but that's it. Well you guys are going on vacation in a hot minute.

[00:03:13] Yes we are 10 days from now. 10 days from now. Yes of course it'll be. Are you taking PTO or are you working remotely? No I am taking PTO. Got it. I am peace out. See you later.

[00:03:28] Well I just know for the past couple of trips you've tried to conserve your PTO. Yeah I definitely have. This time around I decided to use it because I didn't really want to be working remotely and just kind of really needed to chill and relax a little bit.

[00:03:52] So yeah that's coming up we leave on Halloween. Is a dog going with you or daycare or your sister? No so I have to bring my plan is to bring him up next Sunday so we come today up to your sister's place.

[00:04:10] Yeah so I'm hoping I can convince her to meet me halfway. That would be ideal but we'll see what happens. So she'll have him for what two weeks? Yeah two weeks so then I'll go up on the 14th I don't know not the 14th the 11th the 11th

[00:04:30] of November and go get him. But I actually I think I'm going to go up on Friday and then come back on Saturday so. But anyway yeah. Does he go crazy every time you come back and see him again after an extended period? Oh yes absolutely yes.

[00:04:50] Well he does that when we leave him for a few hours so it's not just like several weeks thing so because he gets settled into his routine again or the routine of wherever he's at he's

[00:05:02] good that way but yeah so yeah I have to figure that all out. You and I and Tony and Dennis have brunch next Saturday. Yeah so we can't really we can't go up on Saturday so and actually Hamish is getting groomed on Saturday as well so.

[00:05:26] Oh my god so much grooming. We made these monthly appointments and we're just sort of yeah but we're going to we're going to extend it out a little bit longer now and then probably take him in for like a face trim or whatever.

[00:05:42] Okay so yeah we just made these. Dennis was on point about making week monthly appointments for him and then. Oh wow. Talked about it and we were like we should try to extend that a little bit more.

[00:05:57] So yeah so yeah looking forward to a nice solid seven days in Mexico so. Fine don't get the runs. Don't drink the water. Don't eat anything fresh. I'm sure we'll be fine that a all inclusive it's pretty good.

[00:06:23] Although I mean when we went we only had good food it doesn't matter. Yeah well we do I do have to pick a restaurant for Dennis's birthday dinner. Okay. Yeah so we will be leaving the compound so to speak for that. So yeah looking forward to it.

[00:06:48] Fall weather has certainly arrived here and I know I love it. Some ways it's nice but in other ways I don't know I'm a good I'm a good 70s 70 degrees and I would be happy like you're around 70 degrees fall 70 summer.

[00:07:06] Yes well some I would say 70s is still short weather you know you can wear shorts and t-shirts and a sweatshirt and we you know but now we're like a lot. I do I do like the cooler ish weather.

[00:07:22] Yeah yeah that's not bad but I do miss the warmer weather. I don't know. I don't miss the bugs. There are a few bugs now. The leaves are turning. Yeah I mean sure I like layering too.

[00:07:40] Oh I mean I like my sweatshirts so yeah and I actually have a fall jacket so I'm wearing that so yeah not liking the rain on the weekends though that is that's been annoying that's been a little annoying but literally every week

[00:08:00] every Saturday in lately has felt like it's been raining. I know the joke going around here in New York right now is that every Saturday rain yes a morning was raining but then in the afternoon is the

[00:08:16] sun came out yeah it does not yeah so yeah so that's let's see that's the life and weather report from here in New York. Yeah exactly honestly the weather becomes more and more interesting as we get older honestly it's like it's fascinating.

[00:08:33] Hmm yeah definitely a conversation it's a good icebreaker topic and it's funny because when I was a kid literally like you know there were jokes like oh yeah how's the weather but now that I'm older it's like literally it's like

[00:08:47] every adult conversation you have it probably starts with the weather. It's a bit of small talk right like you said it's an icebreaker but it's also you know you can sort of gauge whether people like this time of year or not. Right.

[00:09:02] I am not a fan of the earlier darkness per se. Right yes because you get seasonal what seasonal disorder whatever what's it called? Yeah seasonal affective. Yeah I'm subject to sad thoughts so I can sort of start to feel it coming on

[00:09:26] which is probably why I'm a little like reticent about the cooler weather but yeah yeah a weekend cosmo will be nice and yeah. And you know me I don't need the sun so it's kind of like it doesn't even bother me. You barely need to leave your apartment.

[00:09:46] No it's true. You are very happily an apartment. Mole person. Mole person yes. Yeah for lack of um yeah better word. I think that encapsulates it pretty well. Yeah I think that it captures the idea well. Yeah. So let's see what else has been going on.

[00:10:07] Well we had New York Comic Con right? That's right. I saw some people walking the streets with cosplay. Did you want to go because you were like New York Comic Con this weekend sad face?

[00:10:21] Yeah I mean I you know it is for the longest time since I've lived in New York I mean I think I've been to so this is my 11th or 11th year in New York I think I've been to a good six or seven comic comics.

[00:10:38] And so yeah it's kind of like I knew this year I couldn't go really couldn't plan it out because we really don't you know our lives are you know still not clear when all that all the adoption stuff is going to happen and stuff like that so

[00:10:54] So I knew I couldn't really plan but seeing the people with their badges and their t-shirts and their cosplay I was like oh I wish. But in reality now I mean I had plenty of work to do unfortunately.

[00:11:13] Yeah but it is you know it is one of those things and you know I didn't you know I get the emails too so I get the emails like of who's coming but also I think at least for me I don't know if you feel this way

[00:11:28] I feel a little bit of a dampening on like genre stuff right now because of the strike. Oh sure. There's definitely a lot less promotion but also it's you know it's disappointing that the AMTMP isn't really making headway

[00:11:55] we passed 100 days I think in the last day or two so yeah it's just kind of like blah about things I mean fortunately there are a few things new things that are coming out that are still being released and whatnot

[00:12:10] and I've been actually going into back catalog stuff or rewatching stuff so There's plenty of stuff to watch if you wanted to find it trust me I mean yeah yeah I mean sometimes it depends on whether I need it for background or

[00:12:29] or like I want to like be come involved and forget or you know take it to check out check out from the stresses of life. I mean you usually to watch things in the background anyway so it's not like and you definitely dip back into old stuff

[00:12:53] so it's not like there was new stuff coming out like it doesn't matter Yeah because new stuff you kind of have to pay attention on you can't really like Well done

[00:13:04] You can't really like zone out and like zone out and be on your phone and like kind of like just Right forget the things that are you know the work stresses the life stresses the you know all that stuff so

[00:13:21] Yeah no I do dip into back catalog stuff but which I have been recently so What have you been watching what old stuff are you been watching? What's that? Any new stuff? Well so Any new stuff I've been so Ahsoka wrapped up which I enjoyed

[00:13:45] I thought Ahsoka was fine Yeah I thought it was really good I thought it was really really good Sabine Wren did not die as I wanted her to so you know She did come into her own in the end I don't think she got what she deserved

[00:14:04] We have a problem with whiny characters we really do whiny and stupid characters But she's also okay you know okay let's site So here we go Site tangent Okay I'm just annoyed that she just didn't have to face her choices you know like she never told Ezra

[00:14:26] Like what she had what she did to get to him Yeah Like they didn't have that you know like they didn't have she didn't have to wrestle with that reality And it's like oh see you later Ezra and their reunion was so lackluster

[00:14:41] Like it was just like hey I haven't seen you in six months like you know that's kind of how it felt Yeah It just didn't feel and I don't need like all the music you know music swelling or anything like that

[00:14:51] But it just like it felt just very like okay like you know very lackluster reunion And then yeah she just like very was very evasive about how do we even get here And Ezra didn't even like press her

[00:15:06] I just felt like it was just like you know it was very like half baked Yeah, she didn't like you know have her come up and like she didn't have to die

[00:15:16] But like I felt that there needed to be some level of justice that just wasn't doled out And you know so go forgave her and look like I think forgiveness without consequence is not Is that I don't believe I don't think that's a good thing

[00:15:34] And you don't think the consequence of being stuck in another galaxy with no possible way home is But then they were also kind of okay with it like you know what I mean they were kind of like alright

[00:15:44] I don't feel they were like oh my god we're gonna be stuck here forever for the rest of our lives Alright, well here we are I mean I think that sort of partially came from Ahsoka's development and her like Being at becoming at peace with things

[00:16:02] Yeah, I don't get that Her growth I think that's where that whole piece with the situation came from I don't think it was from Sabine necessarily but Sabine But I don't think Sabine grew you know I don't think Sabine really like grew in the season

[00:16:17] And there's so much the season was literally it could have been called Sabine Like because so much of it was about her and her journey and her decision But it wasn't and I know there's gonna be more but I don't know she's going to

[00:16:34] Bease the consequences of her decisions you know the true like true consequences And I was just like I was very disquieted about that I mean there were some cool things about it

[00:16:46] I think one of the pieces you might have forgotten about though is the fact that she did see Or she was aware of I don't know if she was there or But she could not she lost her entire family her entire world

[00:17:01] Sure in the what is it the thousand parts of Mandalore Yeah, the present no I understand So some would say that doesn't she pay excuse her I'm sorry I don't know all she's not doll. She fully understood the consequences of giving the map over

[00:17:21] And you know what it would mean for the fate of the galaxy And it's just I don't know you know I don't like immature characters I don't like my character says don't think things through So I was thoroughly annoyed and I want to stop her repeatedly So yeah

[00:17:40] Well there you go well I enjoyed it because I really love trebles I liked I really liked Clone Wars. I should say I love trebles So this was a nice continuation of that so some of it seemed like you know some of it felt more in place

[00:18:00] Like I thought it was I thought it was a little weird their reunion as well and Sabine's But I also felt like you know what this is actually like their vibe That's who they are like you know she's always been kind of standoffish with him

[00:18:16] To some extent and you know he's kind of like that kid who's always just the cool kid You know leaning against the thing like just chill like So I felt like that was really on point for character pieces For that but

[00:18:35] I don't know I you know I wanted more I wanted more with I wanted more with oh my gosh Hera Hera I wanted more with Hera I wanted more with the droid Chopper I want more chopper Yeah, I mean I thought it was overall it was really enjoyable

[00:19:01] I like the trans I love you know I was happy for the transformation of Ahsoka I thought the yeah the episodes with Anakin the one or two with Anakin were really good Yeah, they were so they're excellent it was Yeah, so I really enjoyed that so then I

[00:19:22] So that made me oddly enough go back. I'm about to finish up my rewatch of and or Oh, okay, I've enjoyed excellent I love them So I'm been watching that I've been I did rewatch moon night Okay Sing yeah

[00:19:47] And then what else have been watching we have been watching Loki. Do you start watching Loki? I did start watching Loki it took a couple of tries Yeah, this season's okay. I don't know if it's like I was it I

[00:20:00] Didn't really feel the first two episodes that much for some reason it felt kind of okay I don't know what it is and I don't know it's because like I forgot a lot of season one or something

[00:20:09] Yeah, I feel like I almost should have rewatched season one just to get into the vibe of it but Yeah, I don't you know it's Yeah, it was hard to get into I think what what just dropped episode three just dropped

[00:20:24] Yeah, and things sort of like the action sort of picked up and Sort of the the crocs of season two seems to be like Revitalizing a little okay. Yeah, so Watch it But I feel like yeah Sylvie has a different vibe now

[00:20:46] She's a little bit more serious and like you know, I don't know I felt like it was almost like a different character But yes, I've been watching that I finally did get into that Let's see I've been rewatching some old dr. Who like the stuff that's on Max

[00:21:05] His new doctor who is just around the corner And Which I'm super psyched about in November And what else have we finished wheel of time? Okay, I thought we all time well, what did you think a little time?

[00:21:21] Well, I like the ending I actually thought that the the last up the finale was actually really good. Yeah, I felt But it's a lot to get there. Yes

[00:21:32] That's a lot of patience. Yes for most of the season. I was bored. I'll be honest. Yeah, I would agree I mean it was definitely hard to kind of Get there in the end The problem is that they were all like their own intro storylines

[00:21:49] I was like there are late eight plot lines and I was like this is like so unnecessary And become so much better one there together. I was like, why did you use in the books? They don't all split up. They do have like different threads

[00:22:00] But literally they decided to split all them up. I was like, this is annoying. It got annoying and got boring Yeah, I did. I definitely agree. I did get boring and interestingly

[00:22:12] I think this episode were not like made me feel like maybe I'll go read one of the books or see what the 14 books man It's a lot. I mean, yeah, I've known of the wheel of time for a long long time

[00:22:25] I had a friend who is really into them and like eagerly awaited every Every book that would come out and so I knew of it I feel like I don't know I don't know

[00:22:40] So my problem with wheel of time is that it's not quite as well known of a universe as Tolkien's So I feel like Maybe this is television or I just I don't know. I feel like the world building in the character building gets kind of law

[00:22:57] Like they you know, they want you to like these characters and like this universe of this world And they don't give you a lot to go on

[00:23:09] I agree. It's a lot of I've you know, I don't know if they need to be like hand holding it more like the storytelling or the world building But there's not enough elaboration

[00:23:19] Right, like there is not about things like yeah a lot of like and they'll touch on something and like just move on I'm like wait, but there's like a lot that you can like say about this or that

[00:23:30] Yeah, but they're not like moving the action forward. So I don't know what the hell is going on but you know, it's a very

[00:23:38] Yeah, so it was good though. The finale was engaging. I pay attention to the whole thing. Yes, so did we? Yeah, it was a tough road to get there Yeah, it was a long road Yeah, I still don't necessarily know yes Yes felt like

[00:23:55] Three seasons of Enterprise and then we get to season four Yeah, yeah exactly Although at least if you jumped in and season three of Enterprise you sort of know what's going on or sure, you know

[00:24:08] Yeah, so that's my biggest problem is the world building with Wheel of Time Because I you know, I want some of that back. So I want to love the worlds and the people

[00:24:19] And it's sort of it's in a lot of ways in some ways. It's like the Witcher The Witcher has yes, I agree. It's like too many different like nations or groups of people and you have no idea

[00:24:33] They expect a lot from the audience. I'm like yeah, I'm it down for us Yeah, well not even or just build it out more, you know, like give me a map Give me, you know at least with Game of Thrones, right? That's a huge world building thing

[00:24:50] They open the series with a map you see how things are related and the separations and all of that Like that's what you need for these worlds that aren't like like tokens, you know, it's not it's not something that's so wildly well known

[00:25:10] And if you want I mean if you just want the people who've read the books to watch it then You know, I don't which I don't think is financially viable for you You want more people to watch it than just the people who read the books so right

[00:25:22] Yeah, I think I think world building needs to come back in a better way and and give us a little bit more character building too Yeah, yeah, so those are you know, and I actually really love the Witcher

[00:25:37] I think the characters and the actors are really really good in the Witcher I just wish I knew more about the world like that all the different realms that they're talking about like and how it's all interactive and interacting and whatever so

[00:25:52] I haven't watched season three yet of the Witcher Oh, it's good. Yeah, it's I mean it's good. Yeah, but yeah we enjoy that we watched it a while ago

[00:26:02] So I feel like I feel forgot everything season two though. That's the problem. I need to like watch a read YouTube recap Yeah, yeah, I can't remember if I did or if we watch we watched the last episode The previous season which sometimes helps

[00:26:20] But anyway, yeah, so I think that is what I've been watching what What else oh and so all right, so I did we've already talked about this I did watch foundation right and then I did not renew my Apple TV plus subscription

[00:26:36] Because there's nothing on there until next month when I get back from vacation from it I know Jerry Patrick Jerry act in space. Yeah, it's yes everyone's too old like I mean it's out from the trailer It sounds like there's it looks like rather there are new characters

[00:27:00] They would have to be okay But everyone else is so old I'm like oh my god Yeah, well maybe this season will answer the question do wheelchairs work on Mars like It's like yeah, well they I don't know

[00:27:20] If we I can't I can't even anything else is coming up right Have you watched I know I'm positive recommended it but have you watched the morning show Oh, I did not go back and watch the third season. Yeah, the third season just came out. Well, yeah

[00:27:36] Just came out like a month ago. I'm not sure maybe when I renew it for from in it's good. I mean, it's it's so enjoyable It's like trash. I mean it's not trash but it's it's like the

[00:27:51] It's the try it's like one of those shows that tries to be very Deep I think or it has the idea being deep. It's also very superficial But the ass is crazy. It's like the cat they got John ham this season

[00:28:08] Julianna Marquise is still on the show, but she's like a Thirst share a character. I'm like how do you get like the good wife on the show and she's like barely doing anything Julianna Marquise is the fantastic actress

[00:28:18] Yes, like literally like I'm like this cast so staffed. It's great I don't know how much about the paints cast and it's insane, but it's very enjoyable. I do recommend it Okay. All right. I am also watching invasion on Apple TV plots, which is a score fast

[00:28:36] So slow did you try watching it at all season one? No, I Did not the camera was a sure I think you I mentioned it to you and you're like I'm trying to watch it. It's a snorkel So I was like, okay, that's good enough for me

[00:28:53] I'm not gonna So what I end up doing because I couldn't make it through season one is I watched a YouTube recap a season one And then I just so I didn't finish is I watched a five-foot-soul season one

[00:29:03] And then skips all of it watch a YouTube recap and then just watch star watching season two and it was fine Soon to see the veterans Better but sometimes it's like it's like one of those shows where and I need to

[00:29:20] There's not like a apt comparison, but literally Little so the premise is essentially there's an alien invasion the world the whole world aware of it Trying to fight fight these aliens off and then we spend this all this time With these characters and their petty problems

[00:29:39] Like they'll literally like just have like these kids like we spent too much time with these kids For example, they're like one of the subset characters and they're talking about like oh like you like her I like her. I'm like, oh my god

[00:29:52] I just don't care about your fucking kid problems Like these are literally like 12 year olds and they're like, I know you like her I'm like fuck you fuck all of you like it's just like so annoying

[00:30:03] And I'm like we're spending so much time on these are really petty things And then there's another character where she's a mom And it's about like her and her two

[00:30:16] Kids and I mean, there's like key components to each of the characters that relates to the overall invasion obviously But so much time is spent with her and her like just Problems for family issues And I'm like, oh my god, I do not fucking care like

[00:30:34] So there's an invasion going on like like everything just like slows to a halt when You're like literally there's like this like five minute conversation between these three kids and like how they like there's a love triangle

[00:30:46] I'm like, I don't care. They're like 11 12 years old like I don't care about your love triangle Like really I don't so that's the problem with that show There are sort of hotlines that really move things forward, but It's it's like discovery. It's like, oh my god

[00:31:04] Literally if after the planet do not talk about your life history right now, but it's like that it's like that So alright invasion. What else have you been watching? Oh, so I've been on a Mike Flanagan kick lately

[00:31:19] Which I know it's not for you, but he did like honey him. He only at Hill House Haunting of blind manner. He did No, no, thank you all of the house of usher most recently Excellent excellent

[00:31:35] You know like he's he's really good at horror storytelling, but it's not scary scary I would say think drama with some horror elements And it's all very thoughtfully done So I've been the fall of house of usher in one sitting. It was about eight hours my life

[00:31:54] My god finish at like at 4 a.m. Oh Yeah, you are crazy Yeah, I was like I was transfixed and I just started watching the honey of blind man, which I never finished previously

[00:32:08] Hmm, but he's a he's a really good to storyteller. I love it. I'm sorry. I've been watching that But other than that I reached a start to Netflix recently so I've been trying to catch up there

[00:32:20] Okay, and yeah, like we talked about those stuff. I've been watching like I started watching Loki. Oh Gen V start watching Gen V the boys been off right now, which I know it's not for you. It's too gory

[00:32:32] Right. Yeah. Yeah, so that's good. I mean I watched I think I watched the first season of the boys and then Which was pre-pandemic and then I think season two came out during the pandemic and it was just I already thought

[00:32:46] The first season was overly violent. Oh, yeah, well disgusting at times and so I guess I wasn't in the mood Yeah, I think you'd mention it gets worse and I was like, yeah Yeah

[00:33:02] So yeah, I mean see a lot about Gen V. Yeah, you know, so I know what it is but I have no interest in Yeah, it's it's pretty glory. Yeah, it's pretty bad So there's stuff out there. There's stuff to watch. Did you watch one piece?

[00:33:19] Oh, we watched one. I started watching it fell asleep that I probably will revisit it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah We enjoyed one piece. It was yeah, it was it was really well done I mean, I enjoyed cowboy bebop a lot of people didn't

[00:33:35] But I got the ball. Yeah, I fell asleep. Yeah But no, I've watched it twice. Oh my god. No, I Six episodes I gave it quite a chance So, I mean, yeah, it doesn't follow this so then I watched some of the anime and oh

[00:33:55] Or maybe I watched the whole event. I don't remember. It's while ago Anyway, when I'm not not watch any of one piece anime, but But I did like hundreds of episodes of the anime. It's like, yeah, we're going forever

[00:34:08] So but I enjoyed that that was on Netflix. What else is on Netflix? Great British Bake Off is on Netflix, which we enjoy. The crown is coming back. I'm excited The crown I think in November and this is the primary watcher of that. Yes. I'm excited

[00:34:26] It goes to the 90s and 90s. Oh really? Yeah So that's when a lot happens For the monarchy, so I'm excited for that I'm sure there's more stuff on my list. I need to we I need to watch it

[00:34:43] So you had unsubscribed from Netflix then you would so I was on someone else's subscription And then they cracked down on that and I was like, oh another thing to subscribe to Yeah, yeah So now I'm officially subscribed to Netflix Disney plus And apple tv plus

[00:35:05] Like those are the three I'm paying for And then you get amazon for free because your name is on all right. Sorry. Yes. I guess yeah, I'm paying for amazon as well Obviously, but yeah, sort of yeah, you see I use them more. I pay for

[00:35:18] The delivery. Yeah the delivery verse. I'm mostly Amazon prime as like a plus like a plus. Yes Because yeah, that's not my main reason for paying for it. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, that's true. Yeah Yeah, I am

[00:35:31] Um, no, so I get hulu and Disney plus for free with Verizon and they keep on trying to encourage me to change my plan And I'm like, no way. No, oh, it's going up Uh, there's no way I'm giving that up for

[00:35:46] And having to pay that. I mean that's like, you know, I'm saving like 250 dollars a year Right, right, right, right So yeah, no, no then the new plan doesn't you know Doesn't

[00:35:59] Lower enough to like to join and add it on where it would be the same price or like Any better some like I'm not sure That's doing it for the bucks a year that you pay for me. So yeah, right. Yeah, it's a lot. It builds up

[00:36:13] It's all no money. God Yeah, denyspace for netflix. I I pay the phone bill so technically I pay for disney and Hulu and then here we go Um, yeah, amazon we both have separate amazon still so really? Yeah Yeah, yeah, why? We have them when we

[00:36:35] Moved in together and we just haven't Yeah, because we both order different things and it's just Yeah So every one amazon that's something you should just combine. It's like I'm like $100 a year Yeah So I mean I share it with yo Han. So I mean that's sort of

[00:36:58] Oh, share with your Han your axe. Yeah. Yeah Okay Maybe we've had I mean I've had it since yeah, I've had amazon for forever. So interesting. Okay. Um, I guess it works and max I pay Currently split it Yeah max I

[00:37:19] I'm on someone else's account. Yeah max hulu Uh, I think those are the ones I'm on someone else's account. So you're gonna be so max is I've not seen anything about max but

[00:37:31] Disney has said now that if they find you password sharing they will just cancel your account. Oh really? Yeah, it's in their new terms and conditions or whatever which may also apply to hulu. So

[00:37:45] I don't okay. Well, that might they're all really there just cancel it like without like a heads up. Yeah All right They reserve the right to cancel your account without notice

[00:38:00] I don't know if they're gonna get to a lot of people that's gonna be a lot of cancellations You know what I mean at least nap flicks like forced like you to go through this process of verification stuff like that

[00:38:10] Which which is really like and it's like, uh, okay It's really annoying because we had one day it worked and then the next day I couldn't even use Netflix like in our own home On our tv that we just watched on it yesterday

[00:38:25] Like suddenly one day they flipped a switch and you had to do this fabrication and Dennis was at work And I was like I think I was either it was a sick day or I just took a

[00:38:35] I'm a day off and I wanted to just chill and oh, that's annoying. Um Had to go like through all of this through the loops for it and we're literally It was a pre-registered device, you know everything and it was just annoying. Yeah

[00:38:52] Hours and hours and hours to kind of oh god. Yeah, all right. Yeah So anyway anything else you're watching or is that pretty much it? Um, I'm trying to think if there's anything else I feel there is I feel there is but I do not

[00:39:08] Recall right off the top of my head. I mean, there's plenty. There's plenty of content So, oh, yeah, there is. Yeah, I'll see. Yeah, I see. Yeah Yeah, I think that's it Why don't we uh, wait? Yeah, why don't we talk about star trek? Yeah, sorry Yeah

[00:39:28] So, well, what what is there in terms of track news we haven't talked about prodigy Yay Yes, yes coming to netflix coming to netflix studying So we need to all rewatch season one just to support it. Like I feel that just needs to happen

[00:39:45] I was just happy to open the background like Yeah, absolutely. I just need to happen Yeah, I'm very excited about that I'm glad to pick it up and It seems fitting for them. It's sort of there in there, you know

[00:40:00] And and uh, I think I was discussing this with you but my concern was they couldn't do They don't do typically weekly releases, but then I five minutes later. I realized oh, yeah, we watched great british bakeoff and that's weekly

[00:40:15] Um, I don't think those are the only thing they'll do like part one part two like basically how Well, they have the ability to do weekly. I mean because they do obviously the bbc So

[00:40:28] Bakeoff happens on a tuesday night in the uk and we get it on friday here in the us on netflix So, yeah, I think they've done weekly mostly for reality shows

[00:40:38] Like I think there was a other show like the hundred or something was it a hundred or something? this korean like ninja warrior kind of show That was also weekly I don't know the name of that

[00:40:51] But it's one for reality shows. I haven't seen that for dramas for scripted. We'll see if that's what they do with uh With um, prodigy. Yeah, we'll get dumps of it or not Yeah, but it's yeah super excited

[00:41:07] Hopefully they'll get a even a season three or more. So yeah, we'll see but imagine how long that would take Because they'll probably had to see how season two does And then correct them near wall and then the production time for prodigy is like forever

[00:41:24] Yeah, so we'll see So yeah, so we had that Going back to comic con which is initially where it was starting with when I brought up comic con That's right. Whoops. Whoops. Whoops. I guess So Alex Kurtzman was there. They must have had a star trek panel Um

[00:41:45] And although I don't know who would have been on it other than elix kurtzman Um, and mic man was on the same panel. Oh, okay. All right Yeah, the two of them But alice kurtzman mentioned that there are some other projects

[00:42:02] Um, other projects brewing brewing brewing. There we go. That's a very october word brewing Yes, um in addition to section 31 and academy All right, which he reiterated that tani newson is writing for So

[00:42:23] I feel like she's uh slowly working her way to uh potential showrunner at some point I mean, I think she's brilliant. I really like her. So yeah, she is. Yeah, which would be amazing As long as you think I'm wearing more

[00:42:41] What was that as long as she keeps playing mariner I know she says great. I really like her a lot. Yeah, I feel they need more Like Strange new worlds like shows. I feel academy is

[00:42:56] Niche I feel that's going to be for a very specific audience, which I know they've That was the purpose of what else kirtzman have been trying to do in terms of diversifying star trek but I feel they need more gateway shows like stranger worlds

[00:43:10] Where old fans will like it and new fans can also appreciate it and I just realized this because one of my close friends She accidentally subscribed to paramount plus or she didn't cancel it like she was I think she's

[00:43:24] Something and she had extra month. So she just start she told me like, hey, I'm just gonna Watch stranger worlds anything I need to know. I'm like, uh Probably but it's fine. Just just get into it

[00:43:35] And then she benched both seasons in like four days. Oh, wow. Yeah, and she was like, I loved it It was great and she May have seen a couple episodes of next generation younger and she's so she's not attractive at all

[00:43:49] So she was like, is there anything else that you watch? I was like, I don't know. I was like, do you want to try discovery? I was like try it She did not like to she could not get into discovery like she was just like

[00:44:01] She's literally I and I was like season one. I thought what's really strong She was like, it's so serious. It's so dark and I she's just not she could not get into it. She literally like show me she would just let her She would let it run

[00:44:18] She she like just go and she would go and do the dishes in a different room And I'm like, okay, like just there's no point like just don't bother I mean you could you could suggest season two to her

[00:44:32] So season two I I talked about season two of obviously pike spa in number one And I was like, I feel like I don't need to know what happened in season one a little bit

[00:44:41] And I personally thought I know we talked about this before I thought season one's pretty good So I was like, oh maybe you know just try it you you know and she likes michelle yo

[00:44:49] So I thought there was some good stuff in season one for michelle yo and things like that She she just couldn't get into it. She was just so bored I was like, uh, that's fair I didn't throw her back to any 90s track 80s 90s

[00:45:04] I don't know for a newcomer. It might be hard It's I think it's a little daunting like 26 episode seasons, you know what I mean? It's just like so different Yeah, it's so different and pacing so different than what people are used to nowadays

[00:45:19] Yeah, that's true. I feel it's an investment like I feel like um, If you're if you're interested and okay, go back, you know, and I keep take your time and you know like watch it but

[00:45:31] It's I think it's tough. Like it's just such such a different pace nowadays Yeah Like in 10 episode seasons is so different than a 26 episode season that I don't know, you know

[00:45:44] Yeah, someone else actually asked me today. She was like, oh, yeah, I've seen like a few of the movies What do you think you should start with? I was like, oh my god I was like, um

[00:45:54] And then I suggested strange new worlds. I was like, yeah, I tried strange new worlds Like that's an easy gateway Gateway series and then she was like, do you think I should watch any of the old stuff? I was like

[00:46:04] Let me think about that get back to you I mean, you could give her a curated list of specific episodes. I guess Yeah, so I was like I can come up with like a curriculum

[00:46:15] Yeah, yeah, let me think about that a few a few to us episodes. Oh god, um hit the Hit the well, you know, um actually, you know Sending your one of the previous friend back you could send her back to balance of terror

[00:46:33] Only she would see like the original series version of the finale from season one true now so Because you can't like it I think that that makes that story even better if you know that what you're seeing is an alternate Timeline of that actual

[00:46:59] Episode but though I personally thought balance of terror was fine. Oh, I love it. It's one of my favorites. No, I know So yeah, I don't know I it's hard it's hard It's it's hard if you I know It's just it's hard to hold attention nowadays

[00:47:19] So I just it's daunting. It's just like it's like there's like 900 that was a television like it's it's so much So, yeah, so I feel they need and you go back to my original point I feel they need I don't feel Academy is gonna be

[00:47:34] I don't know. Maybe maybe it could be for younger people. I have no idea I have no idea what they want to go how they want to approach it In terms of like kind of just like an easy gateway

[00:47:45] Show that all the new fans can enjoy I feel they need another one so Yeah, well, I mean, I'm you know, he's as cryptic as ever with his answers to questions. So Things brewing could mean, you know anything so

[00:48:08] No, I mean it could mean star trek 4 it could mean which I I know we talked about this before we start recording, but I feel like That should be under Alex Kurtzman's Domain as well Yeah, I Guess we don't know for sure whether it is or not

[00:48:27] And then there's all of us talk about it still under JJ JJ is still like when quen Tarantino was thinking about He was on JJ rooms. Like I think he's still under his purview as like executive producer Yeah, so Oh, we'll see um

[00:48:43] Because remember when they they like paramounted this whole like song and dance last year and they had JJ Abrams announced star trek 4 It's like a development. Like, you know

[00:48:52] I don't remember this but then again, you know me. I don't remember six months ago and they announced the renewal of season five All right, so This pass. We were just on slack. We weren't just stock of this past weekend

[00:49:09] He was the mic was like weird that we haven't heard about season five of lower decks yet and I was like I was like, what are you talking about? I was like first of all, I was like Am I I thought it was me

[00:49:23] And so I had to google it and then I sent you an article back from like march of 2023 It was like season like lower decks has been renewal for season five And then you were like I was younger back then I was not

[00:49:38] So yes, it's been I was younger and um And uh, clearly I forgot that they got renewed for season five. So yeah, yeah I mean there was you know the overshadowing of uh, let's see a rider strike Uh discovery being canceled. Um

[00:49:58] Gosh, I don't even remember what else but Those two alone a disappointing first contact day Um, all of those things so um, yeah, I had forgotten Mm-hmm But uh, you know, uh given what happened with prodigy even though lower decks is super popular and you know

[00:50:21] I never that popular though. Come come here arson No one talked about it. Well, I hope I hope that we get more than season five of lower decks Yeah, I would say it's like 50 50 season five is five seasons is pretty decent At least for for the stain age

[00:50:40] And based upon the fact that they're bringing discovery to close in season five. I'm wondering if that is the new Seven years discovery is a lot more expensive though I think it is an expensive show. I feel lower decks is just animations

[00:50:54] Then we're going to be that expensive in comparison Yeah, well, hopefully we get a ton more of strange new worlds Mm-hmm Though honestly, when are we gonna get the next season? 20 25 2025 I mean, yeah, it's a year from whenever the writer strike and the actor strike ends and um

[00:51:17] And the time between that and when they start recording. So it's I was totally thinking about this I just feel that Shows nowadays is post production takes forever Hmm. It just takes so much longer than I used to Because yeah, like I think back in

[00:51:36] When we were having we're having 26 episodes a season They would have their hiatus, but they were filmed beginning like essentially at the beginning of summer And then you get the episode in the fall, you know, like it was just it was a much later on like

[00:51:51] Like yeah, they were filmed like an episode a week or you know, or so Yeah, no every seven days seven eight days. They were recording an episode. Yeah Yeah, there was this probably those out and post production did not take that long

[00:52:04] So is this yeah nowadays this is like, oh my god, like they're spending so much more time and money on posts Which maybe they'll be able to do some of that a little bit quicker with like star fleet academy

[00:52:16] Maybe, you know, like something where it's a little more people based and Um, you know But who knows? Yeah, who knows? Um We'll be dipping back into the old catalog more and more. Yeah, what are we gonna talk about mike after

[00:52:34] The word dex is over. I don't know. We have this span of time before discovery Which is still early 2024 tbd, right? Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know what are we going to talk about? Um, we'll have to pick a topic and watch some episodes or do something

[00:52:53] Meaning to have guests on but obviously have not consistently followed up on that so we can do some guests. Maybe yeah And Yeah, we can uh pick up a pick guests and have them Pick an episode To watch and we can talk about that Yeah So yeah, um

[00:53:18] Yeah, uh, but I'm sure there'll be something We'll figure it out I am sure what we've been doing this for our 100. This is our 113th episode. I know. Oh my god This is coming along. It's been Wow Can come down here. Yes

[00:53:41] But my but but time is falling here All right, well, why don't we talk about this week's or last by time our listeners hear this it'll be last week's Episode of the word dex caves Yeah caves caves

[00:54:00] Like do you have the summary from memory alpha at the ready or do I need to look it up? I will quickly do that as we um Uh

[00:54:13] Yeah, well, I think the interesting thing is and I heard this from uh the interview with mic man man as well Or rather, I think it was either an interview or his uh his panel That they have not released the last two episodes

[00:54:27] For screening purposes the last two episodes of season five Because apparently mic man man does not want it to be spilled as to what the big story arc is So, okay, he's probably keeping it around. So this is why we have not gotten screeners for those two episodes

[00:54:47] And apparently he's saying that people have gotten close in terms of Their guests as to what this all is about But no one has done it exactly So we will have to look forward to and he also Has hinted that we're gonna see a new legacy character

[00:55:09] Oh, really? Yeah It sounds like it's a new legacy character that we haven't seen on lower text before so it's probably not gonna be recker again So yeah, so I mean Okay, the summary on memory alpha is brief

[00:55:27] Is it I mean I I see a like a summary that like starts with each part of it But I don't see like a full scroll to the very top Literally the summary it says the lower deck Go on a classic

[00:55:42] Literally that's literally the summary. Yes. Yeah, that is the summary Which is um and interesting. So this is made out to be like a clips episode, right? Um, which is kind of but of moments that we haven't seen before

[00:55:57] Right unlike the last clips episode which was season two finale shades of gray so Yeah, um Yeah, what did you think of this episode mic? So I just rewatched it a little while ago. Um, so did I you know

[00:56:16] Because we we watched it rushing to watch it. We were um, we watched it a while ago when we got this You know some period of when we had the streamers So let me see. Um I don't think I loved it the first time around

[00:56:33] And it was okay But I read an article about it and comparing it to Shades of gray and it actually gave me a lot more appreciation of the episode. Okay So, um, yeah, so I you know

[00:56:52] Most of the time in clips shows right? Well, all right. So obviously the cave mission is a very like popular Thing it's also it's sort of like how can we save money this week on star trek?

[00:57:06] Right. Well, we can we have a set up back with the cave in it. Let's set the story in the cave Which is uh kind of the in-joke of this episode Which also leads to they've had like three or four other Adventures

[00:57:23] Which they haven't shared with one another in caves or in one case the turbo lift Which is also very reminiscent of um What was a disaster right? Mm-hmm tng's disaster. Yeah. Yeah

[00:57:39] So uh looking at it through that lens of so the the comparison is this shades of gray Basically went back through the first two seasons of next gen and picked out scenes or pieces of scenes or whatever Um and sort of tied it together as like him

[00:57:56] Reliving through his memory Whereas this episode of lower decks is actually giving us new and exciting information about our favorite characters. Yes, so um in that light it is actually pretty Uh interesting and it's it's the fact I I love the fact that because they're now lieutenants

[00:58:19] They are on all different away missions. Uh-huh Not with each other, you know, so um So let's see boy. I'm there goes with levy uh, which is our rando Not not yes. Yeah Um, which I you know

[00:58:41] I think it's a great comedic vehicle, but it's annoying as hell because it's just like we have enough conspiracy theorists in this world who are you know, ruining For a lot of people and um To have a star trait character who's doing that

[00:59:03] Didn't that has a who's a wolf three five nine denier? Oh my god rap like that. Um, but uh, it's um You know, so boy. I'm there goes with levy levy and into a cave adventure. They find this ventraxians or something Vendorians Vendorians Which is a vendingor prime

[00:59:29] Which seems like very like Almost laziness like and or vandora. I mean sure, you know But anyway, so we have that we have rutherford with dr. Teana um Which actually I think that's my favorite story out of all of these

[00:59:47] Does it combine so a couple of different like Ideas from the we've seen in the past in star trek um And then let's see We have rather that's rutherford boyman manner of delta shift. Yeah with delta shift which um

[01:00:06] So they're all like leading away missions, although levy is sort of a full lieutenant and Boy, I'm listening like other times jg, but It seemed like boy. I'm lower with more in charge or maybe not. I don't know but

[01:00:20] Anyway, there's that you know and mariners leading in a way mission and then tendy just wants the Turbola, yeah Yeah, so Which dates back to season one basically Yeah Between season one and season two So no it was season one. It was season one episode one

[01:00:42] Oh, is it? Oh, yeah when the when they were dealing with that rage virus That was episode one. Yeah Yeah So, you know, I thought it was clever. I thought it was Cute, I thought that it was great to like bring in so many different

[01:00:59] Like cast members or you know different crew members is what I meant, right? Um Crew into it. Um Yeah, I think it it breaks things up to like It sort of separates them from being like typical ensigns who are kind of doing things together or whatever and

[01:01:18] They're like growing up sort of doing their own omissions. So Um, I I enjoyed it. I enjoyed, uh And I laughed at the end because the They're on like the window whatever the Vendorians were yeah the episode but they're on a different planet

[01:01:40] So not indoor prime. Um, no So, yeah, uh, I enjoyed it. Um, what are your thoughts on it? Yeah, I don't agree. I think the first time I watched it because it was I felt that the other episodes

[01:01:57] Well, we can also talk about a little about like where we got into at this point Like obviously we got we have like a lot of different episodes leading up to this between um Between tendy visiting her family and then yeah peanut hamper and yada yada yada

[01:02:17] We still have this through line of you know, this alien ship that's been In Destroying ships but not really, you know, like it's right only on Yeah, I feel like though Seven episodes were if we don't really get much like we don't we don't we don't get much

[01:02:36] Progress when it comes to what's going on. It's a little repetitive actually and I think it's only in Episode seven that we get A bit more of a hint as to what's been happening

[01:02:47] Oh, no, I have to go back and watch seven again then basically I think they were like, oh like everyone's actually being Like transported off or something. I think that's what it was. Okay. I couldn't remember if that was an actual thing

[01:03:00] Or whether that was a theory that we had I don't remember anymore. It's been a while Yeah, it's been it's been a moment or it was like either they're being transferred Yes, I know we're also theorizing it's either people getting transferred off or they're actually like

[01:03:16] They're actually taking the ships Or something there's the brie left right there's the brie that's like a red herring of some sort I don't remember. I didn't go back. It's been literally I think it's been two months since I watched episodes

[01:03:30] So because we watched all of it when we got the screener a while ago. Yeah, I watched it in halves, I think so, um But Yeah, I feel that when I saw I went first watched this episode not that I was oh my god

[01:03:45] I need to know what's going on with this larger plot line I also was like oh to your point. It kind of felt like it was it's kind of out of left field It's kind of filler a little bit

[01:03:58] And what's going on? I think lower decks lower decks is one of those shows where I do not feel Urgency to watch even when we get the screeners. I'm not I'm like I gotta watch all eight episodes now Yeah, I watched over like a couple sittings

[01:04:16] It was like, you know, you know, obviously enjoy it when I watch it, but it's not It's not must-see television for me In the same way that I would say changing worlds was or even discovery was Yeah, it's just not

[01:04:33] So when we got this episode, I was like, okay, it's kind of filler. It's it's five I did enjoy it though more on the second watch on the beat watch

[01:04:43] I I when I kind of I think have that break and then kind of let go of oh what's going on in the larger story I was able to kind of to kind of enjoy for what it was and enjoy some of the obviously very tongue-in-cheek commentary about

[01:05:03] cave episodes And how every cave set is the same and oh look and a winner had this great lie like oh, yeah Bunch of rocks beat centuries of technological progress Like hey You know, she had some good one-liners about because she hates caves

[01:05:20] Because every time they're in a cave some sort of issue or disaster or they can't reach anyone or Yada yada, so I liked a lot of that kind of humor and a lot of that commentary about cave episodes So that was enjoyable

[01:05:34] so once I kind of like let go of what the expectations were for this episode and kind of just try to enjoy for what it was I definitely enjoyed it a lot more and it was also

[01:05:44] To your point, it kind of also points to a bit of character progression because they have not been with each other as much Because of their promotion and now they're leading away missions are doing their own shit so they

[01:06:02] Haven't had the opportunity to just get together and hang out and be a mission together. So that was kind of Yeah, that was kind of nice to kind of acknowledge that and to kind of give them all You know some of their own storylines and things going on

[01:06:20] I mean, I think They're just more real right it feels more like You know that the trope For the longest time was that they're ensigns and now it's sort of like we're actually like Doing a little bit more grown-up trekking but

[01:06:38] We still have all these little in jokes and these Easter eggs and things and that we normally do but we're actually We are seeing these characters grow and develop. Yes. Yes. So that I thought was Good, you know, like I think that

[01:06:54] The storylines were fine. Like, you know, they were fine. They they weren't like, oh my god like Yeah riveting But but then again cave episodes are not riveting really It's like the mystery is in the cave and there's interpersonal conflict

[01:07:13] And um, that's it. You know, it's something alien. I mean It's very formulaic Right, right. So By light that they were also kind of they had a very human reaction to their

[01:07:31] You know to the stories because they were like wait, you did this and didn't tell us and yeah And I think that's like the you know, when I thought about that It's like any friendship as friendships grow and evolve and you start to

[01:07:44] Have your own thing and this and I was talking to another friend about this yesterday It's to me that would be Friends that become parents and they start to their focus of their lives is start to Change because they're a different life stage

[01:08:01] And they can't hang out as much because they need to take care of someone and they need to figure all that out and things like that And I think when I when that was happening to me the first My initial reaction to that was kind of frustration

[01:08:16] When that sort of happened to me and my friends started to have kids and I was like Oh, you know, like all right, you know, that's fine. If you do your own thing in it was frustration slash kind of a bit of I think

[01:08:29] Desire for things to say the way they are but you know, that's not how life works So it kind of reminded me of that a little bit of how life You go into these different life stages through friendship

[01:08:42] And it doesn't necessarily mean that the friendship's gone, but it's just like the friendship changes And it maybe takes a little bit more intentionality to stay friends, you know So yeah, no, look at you pulling the life lessons that have started. Yeah Exactly

[01:09:01] Yeah, very good. Very good. Mike mink man would be so proud right now Yeah I mean, it'd be awesome if you listen to our podcast so Or at least this part of it

[01:09:14] I mean, you get through you need to get through the first like 60 minutes of us talking about like other shit and then you know But yeah, but yeah, I'm I'm I'm yeah, so I'm actually this episode was fine

[01:09:27] I am excited to see what the rest of the season goes and Um, you know if we're gonna get uh, Well, now that you Yeah, now that you sort of said, I mean now would be interesting if we do get screeners at all or not um

[01:09:42] Hmm. No, and if not then uh, then what oh my god And it will become like must-see television because you don't want to be spoiled on it. I know I know So

[01:09:57] Uh, yeah, but I think there's a number of podcasts who kind of rely on like these screeners to get their episodes done And out so it'll be interesting because they publish on fridays And they'll have the episode review

[01:10:12] Obviously, they recorded that in advance. So yeah, yeah, so yeah Um, well, let's see. Yeah. Well, did you have anything else to say about caves or really this season so far even? um, well, I realized they'd only watched six and seven once

[01:10:32] Um, as I because I went to paramount plus for to what rewatch this one and I actually watched six and seven on paramount plus, uh, so, um Yeah, so I've only watched some ones. Um

[01:10:47] You know, I think about I think the one thing that actually came back to me and I can't is um Mariner and boyamlers kind of adventure on furangunar Um, I think they're on furangunar, right? Yeah And uh Just that as i'm thinking about it. I'm like

[01:11:10] They both did very sabine-ish Things as well. I mean boyamlers and idiot for getting sucked into television Uh-huh, you know like just being Like having his thing having his like He remember at first it was like, oh my gosh. He has a schedule just like johnson would

[01:11:29] You know his spreadsheets um so uh That that came to mind, but then You know Mariner can be such a brat about things even even and I think even at the beginning of this episode caves

[01:11:47] She's like whining because it's a cave episode, you know, right going into a cave, right? so You know, I it's just it's sort of reminded like Because I think I was like

[01:12:00] Oh and tendy and rutherford pretended to be married in order to right and then you got some of that sexual attention Yeah, that's something weird Yeah, that was a that was an you know

[01:12:12] Weirdish episode. I think I was I think I was kind of annoyed at all of the characters and not um So, yeah, I I actually I think that Maybe oh, yeah, I think that would be my least favorite one other than I hate badgie and um, you know

[01:12:32] And peanut hamper so those are two of my least favorite characters So which is probably to explain why I have not rewatched either of those episodes episode was um Yeah, I thought that that episode was interesting because it kind of it took those characters in an unexpected

[01:12:51] Direction for me like in terms of Yeah, badgie basically like ascended Like you know airplane of existence, right? Yeah, which is actually kind of funny and You know repeats back to what happened in Season one was it? Yeah season one Season two In the koala

[01:13:14] Yes, um, yeah, so there's that um, I guess Yeah, agamist agamist tells boymler the Truth about right about this thing which is I guess where we're getting the beaming of the or like their Whatever. Yes, he gives them more clues

[01:13:33] More clues. Um, and then peanut hamper goes back to home to a degree drill from A quality of life that yeah, that was the xl comp episode in tng. Yeah. Yeah, so Yeah, um

[01:13:48] Also, she goes back to being like a regular xl comp just right her thing and then agamist goes back to daystrom Yeah, I didn't expect it to be I didn't expect that to be the resolution for those characters

[01:14:01] I know that you um aren't too big a fan. I expected something more but I was like, oh, whatever You know, that's it's also actually for that episode now that i'm thinking back to it. I enjoyed the boymler agamist like

[01:14:14] Um piece of it. I think that was um mainly because I love jephyr kuhms. I think I think the voice and yeah Yeah, yeah, these are the stories

[01:14:25] And I sort of like this whole plot line like you want to take over a planet, right? Um, so that you know But yeah, I can't stand badji. I'm glad that they have ascended to another plane

[01:14:38] We get whatever four different versions of badji, which oh, it's like I was thinking about what I was watching I was like, oh my god, it's a lot of badgies. This mic's gonna hate this Yeah, um, so I wasn't that excited about the badgies. Yeah, um

[01:14:52] Although I was excited to see the bridge crew and like kind of like the whole like Brotherford one against the captain right to beam over or whatever. So yeah, yes

[01:15:03] Um, I feel like there should have been some consequences from that. Um, but I don't remember if there were Oh We have the oh, we didn't even you know, we have the tulen episode where she her emotions are the ones that are affected Everyone. Oh, yeah Uh

[01:15:27] Yeah, they're talented and whatever that yeah whatever if they are um, so yeah, it's been a interesting season. Um I enjoyed him when you know, I enjoyed them as I would but I didn't really give them much thought and

[01:15:43] Uh, since we're recording just once a month basically, you know, I didn't have to like Pay super attention to the details and like think it out and to think about talking about it. So right, but it's definitely um

[01:15:57] Yeah, it's been an interesting season. Um, I'm really curious about agamist told Boimler um, then he's gonna share with the captain and um You know, I'm fine if they don't give us screeners for 10 9 and 10 You know, that's fine. Don't yeah, I'm fine with that you know, um

[01:16:18] Yeah, let us watch it with everybody else and Um, see I feel sometimes. Yeah, I feel sometimes because we watch we watch in advance We kind of something that we lose out on You know, because it's like once a discourse happens. I'm like, oh man

[01:16:32] I like watch this episode like four like four weeks. Yeah. I don't remember what this is about Yeah, so I feel something. So yeah, sometimes it's it's good and bad I mean, you know, obviously love getting the episodes early and having that option but

[01:16:46] There is something to be said about kind of experience it with other people and like what I think is slightly different with you know with um with lower decks versus strange new worlds where we're like super like We both love strange new worlds. So

[01:17:05] Or Picard like work hard Give it to me, you know, especially because it's much more serialized and sort of storytelling strange new worlds You know strange new worlds. I I guess I'll watch all of it but because it's so episodic

[01:17:17] It's very contained versus like for cars like I need to what happens next Yeah, uh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so Yeah, oh and I think I Am I did I I rewatched Picard too? I think I rewatched the whole season at this point

[01:17:34] How was it second time around? No, maybe I'm halfway through. I forget. Oh, okay Um, how is it second time around? Good, I mean you pick up on a lot more nuances. Um

[01:17:49] Yeah, you get to I don't know you get to enjoy it like you can yeah, you can just pick up on a little bit more. I feel like Um, just enjoy the details Watch the background a little bit more watch the character nuances You know

[01:18:07] Also, I think it's at least So when I watched for Episode four which which was uh The You know and Picard and Riker it was the 18 seconds I think it's after the 18 seconds, right or whatever they yeah

[01:18:23] Because at the end he told them to fire and then the the portal weapon just damaged the The ship, you know, at least you felt like You could see the conflict but you could see it from a less shocking standpoint

[01:18:40] That makes sense remember we were at least I was like, oh my god these two guys who are best, you know, like very close forever and ever Are so much conflict conflict. Yeah, so much conflict

[01:18:55] No, um, so you that gets that puts it into a different perspective, but um, yeah Um Yeah, you know the one thing about um

[01:19:07] The whole prodigy thing if I can bring that in because it's gonna try and I I almost want to pick up a copy of the card on DVD just to have at least this third season Um, just because it is so freaking good

[01:19:24] And um, and i'm listening to his autobiography making it. Oh really? Oh, you should have covered that beginning How is that going? uh, you know autobiographies for me are like I take them in like spurts like I can listen for a little while and then I you know

[01:19:43] Um, but it's really interesting literally. I don't know maybe a Maybe a third maybe a quarter of the way through it So he's he's um, what is he like 25 right now? So i'm like, oh my gosh We have a lot. Oh my god Oh my god

[01:20:01] So um, but I love listening to Patrick Stewart. Um And it's actually he's actually had a really interesting life. So i'm fascinated by a lot of it. So Um, so yeah, um definitely more interesting than ours

[01:20:20] Our autobiography our lives. Oh, yes. Yes. Um for sure. So yeah, um Ah So, yeah, that's um Yeah, I don't know how I got off on this tangent But no, well, we were talking about just lower decks and how we felt about the season and

[01:20:43] Yeah, yeah, how so how that's been going. So so yeah, and then uh, yeah, I still i'm you know I still so I need to finish watching because I think i'm in episode five right now or whatever wherever I was but um What uh, but I also i'm

[01:21:03] Think I think I got into season four of decent ds nine Oh, wow. Okay. I think or am I still in season three? I don't know. It's been a while

[01:21:11] So hot minutes since i've been watching that so I need to go out much more of that. Yeah, um But yeah, um, but no no new books are coming out like it's really like I feel like we're

[01:21:23] Well because of the actor stripe, but else the driver's right. It's a big dry spell Yeah, I think I feel like we're going into dry spell. So yeah, we're gonna see it before we know it

[01:21:33] We're just gonna be watching all k dramas like it doesn't be the only thing we'll be watching because yeah, they're so pumpy out content Uh, you know, I couldn't pick up I couldn't get back into allison Borderland borderline. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah

[01:21:50] Um, I don't think season two is as good season one was definitely riveting more riveting Season two Not having I think it's also done. I think it's also like they're finished. Oh, yeah, but Yeah, I still enjoyed it. I still liked it, but it's definitely not as

[01:22:09] Not not as riveting as season one So Yeah, yeah, anyway, well Well, there we go. Yes, uh That's a good amount of discussion about everything from Life to star trek Yeah, well, it's been a minute. So it's nice to catch up

[01:22:31] Well, uh, we'll see, you know, we'll see what the next recording takes us I'm sure it'll be after the finale of lower decks And maybe we can do kind of maybe our next episode can be kind of like a recap Of this season

[01:22:45] And we'll have to also figure out what we're gonna do next so Yeah, and oh my god by the time we record next time it's gonna be right around Thanksgiving It's it's like the year's over. Oh, yeah. I mean, uh, yeah with vacation and traveling and everything

[01:23:01] Yeah, it was over back in august. I was like the years over you didn't believe me and it's okay. Well, I mean, it's yes Yes, it's called but fall was by so fast and yeah, so well, I mean we're still in fall

[01:23:13] I mean, it's only been a month into fall We still have two more months of fall I know What is daylight saving start? When does it get darker earlier? Oh

[01:23:23] I don't know. I don't want to know these things. Okay. I do not need anything negative to think about All right. Yeah, denial really helps is helpful. Um, cool. Well, Mike

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