112 - The One with the Lower Decks Season 4 Premiere

[00:00:02] This week on Deep Space Pride, we talk about the first two episodes of Lower Decks season 4, Tuvix and I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee. And we catch up on some news and what's been going on in our lives. Thanks for joining us. Hi Johnson. Hey Mike.

[00:01:01] How are you? I am tired actually as we've talked about before. Oh my god. So sleepy. We were both in almost nap mode before we decided to record. Yeah, nap mode, nap mode. I'm ready to take a nap.

[00:01:18] So we're trying to, yes, we're trying to gather up the energy to talk about, to do this podcast and talk about Star Trek. We can do it. I have confidence in us. How are you doing? What's been going on in Johnson land? You mean other than being exhausted?

[00:01:37] Yes, other than being exhausted. What other news? Yeah, things are good. I'm trying to think what's happening. We haven't talked all that much this last week or so because you've been busy and I've been busy like it's been a very busy last couple of weeks. It has been.

[00:01:58] Well, you were traveling and then I was traveling. Yes, right. Exactly. And now we're both back at least for a little bit. For a little bit, yes. You are going again, going somewhere again at some point in October? Yes, but not until October. Okay. Yes.

[00:02:14] I'm ready to say but I think I'm going back to California in the first week of October. Oh, wow. Well, we are going to Rhode Island in the first week of October. Oh really? Yeah, so that works out well. How'd you rather go to Rhode Island?

[00:02:32] What are you doing in Rhode Island? Dennis has a medical conference. In Rhode Island? Providence, Rhode Island. So I'm going back to my old stomping ground and it's also only 20 minutes away from my sister and family so get to see them. Yeah. So. Okay, that's fun. Yeah.

[00:02:53] Are you guys going to be gone for a week? How long are you going to be there? No, it's like Wednesday through Sunday or something like that. Oh, okay. I think the conference is very successful on Thursday because we're going up on Wednesday but I could be wrong.

[00:03:06] I have no idea. Well, when you went with him, where were you before his conference? It was two weeks ago? Oh, a couple of weeks ago we went to Poughkeepsie because he was working in Wappinger Falls, New York. Wappinger Falls?

[00:03:22] If you were to put a gun to my head and be like, point out Wappinger Falls on a map, I'd be dead. I mean it's poetry right now, it's over. Yes, yes. No idea. It's if you look for Cold Spring and go east and or northeast actually. Okay.

[00:03:40] That way. So, okay. Yeah, so we were there, well Dennis worked at another site helping out and so that was work. This is his like education. So this is an educational trip. So actually I guess we have a little bit more of a budget for dinner for food.

[00:04:00] So that's kind of a nice in terms of his per diem. Yeah, yeah. So how much does he get? Oh, I have no idea. We can eat a little. We can not eat a little better. That sounds horrible. We have a little bit more to spend this trip.

[00:04:18] Okay. Oh, okay. That's interesting. I mean my per diem when I travel with $70 a day for one person, which I think is fine. Yeah, so I think he got $50 a day when we went to. What? Yeah, it's ridiculous. $50. So yeah.

[00:04:36] So obviously this trip has a little bit more, which is good. Okay. Yeah, so yeah. So you went to. Yeah, I was in LA. And before you went to LA, I went to Maine to see my mom. Oh, that's right. Yes, you had like consecutive trips. Yes.

[00:04:57] Yes, I did. Yep. There is a week in between them, I think. Although it's all very blurry now. It's all yeah. At this, I don't know. So I'm starting to complete my weeks together. I mean, it's, I can't believe it was a timber, but it's been really hot.

[00:05:11] So. Right. Yeah. Heat wave. Mm-hmm. It's been uncomfortably hot. Which you prefer overfall? Well, so I am longing for fallish weather. Really? You hate fall? No, I actually really like fall. I like the early part of fall. I don't like the fall leaning into winter.

[00:05:37] Fall is my favorite season in New York. It's beautiful. The air is crisp. Yeah. And you have all these holidays, of course. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. And yeah, the time between Thanksgiving and New Year's is fun. Mm-hmm. Okay. So that's my favorite. That's one of my favorite.

[00:05:57] This is your favorite time of year? Yeah. Yeah, that in springtime. Springtime is also amazing in New York. Yeah, it is when it's not cold. When it starts to warm up. Yes. Exactly. Yeah.

[00:06:10] So, yeah, I'm kind of over the swamp that you kind of have to walk through. Today was gross. Yes, today was gross. Actually, I went into, I was fine until I went down into the subway.

[00:06:28] And there was like seven minutes to the train and I was like ready to throw myself on the tracks. Okay. Not that bad. No, not that bad. But it was, you know, because I was wearing pants because I was going to work.

[00:06:44] And I was like, oh, this is miserable, miserable, just feeling sticky and sweaty. So yes, I'm actually looking forward to like, you know, 60s cooler breeze. Yes. You know, you can wear a sweatshirt or a jacket. But not a heavy situation. Right. Yeah, I am.

[00:07:12] So I am looking forward to cooler weather for sure. Just slightly cooler. Cooler one. Give me 60s. I'll take the 60s. I love 60s. It's my favorite. 60s is a nice time. So yeah. So how was your LA trip? It was a pitch, right? Did it go well?

[00:07:32] Yeah. So I was in LA. I was there for a few days to see some friends. Did I mention on this podcast that I went to LA to see this guy that I've been talking to you on Tinder?

[00:07:46] I know I mentioned it to you, but I don't remember. I think we might have mentioned early days. You chatting with someone new? Okay. Honestly, it could have been a while since we were recorded. So I don't remember what I talked about.

[00:07:59] I talked to you about in real life versus on this podcast, which is very difficult to keep track of. It sometimes is, yes. I feel like though this time, I mean, we've both been, August is supposed to be slow for me anyway. It was not slow.

[00:08:15] And in fact, I would love to have a repeat of August to do the work that I did not get done in August that is now adding to my work here in September. But I believe you did mention you had started early days talking to someone.

[00:08:32] We didn't get into it. Okay, fine. I can recap very quickly for our listeners that may or may not remember and those who might be listening for the first time, the two of you.

[00:08:41] But I had started to talk to this guy on Tinder a little over a month ago at this point, and he was visiting New York, which is why we matched up, but he lives in LA. And I decided to chat him back and start talking.

[00:09:00] We didn't have a chance to get together while he was in New York because New York was one leg of his multi-city trip. So we just didn't have a chance to. And we were chatting, we've been talking, and I had reasons to go out to

[00:09:18] California anyway, so he lives in LA. And I was like, why don't I come see you and we can see if this is anything. And I did that. We spent a couple of days together actually. It was a lot considering that it was an easy person. Yeah. Oh.

[00:09:40] Yeah, we spent a couple of days together. We went to California Adventure. That's the Disney lands. I guess you can call it that. Okay. Yeah, there's Disneyland in Orange County. Right on. Yes. Thank you. And there's California Adventure, which is the more adult park you can drink at

[00:10:01] the park. They have some of the Marvel stuff, whatever. Oh, cool. And we went there and we also went shopping. We just spent time together. And yeah, at the end of the day, we kind of just agreed to be friends mostly

[00:10:17] because it was kind of just, we agreed that the distance thing was not conducive to anything more serious. Though I knew that going in obviously, right? He's not leaving the LA. I'm not leaving New York, but I think that for me, I also wanted to

[00:10:35] kind of see, oh, is there something here that's going to make me want to go to the park? Kind of see, oh, is there something here that's going to make me want to make a bigger change or something like that? I was open to that.

[00:10:47] But it was just, you know, I mean, but also two days is not enough time, you know, to really make that kind of call. But I think at the same time, it's also like, all right, well, it's not really practical. So I don't know. It was fine though.

[00:11:01] Like I liked spending time with him. We had a good time. Great. I don't regret anything. It was good. Yeah. But I decision to not move forward was based more upon location. Was there chemistry? Was there? Yes, no, there was chemistry. There was chemistry. Okay. Great.

[00:11:24] I think the location piece, like if he lived in New York, or I guess if I lived in LA, I would be like, yeah, let's go on up, you know, more dates, you know, like it's kind of like that.

[00:11:35] But it also wasn't like, oh my God, you know, like for me, I guess it also, I don't know, it's just sharing too much. But it also wasn't like instant like, oh yeah, like I'm ready to meet this call. I don't know. I don't think anything's in.

[00:11:51] I mean, the myth of, you know, what love at first sight and all that jazz is, you know, I think a myth. Yeah, no, I don't agree. I don't know. Like, I was just willing to kind of entertain it. It wasn't a big deal.

[00:12:08] Literally, I had a reason to go to California anyway. So it was kind of like, okay, why don't we do a test? You know, so we're still chatting. It's yeah, you know, just as friends. But yeah, so that was a big part of that trip.

[00:12:28] And as I mentioned, as you mentioned, I also was out there for business. So I had a pitch in San Jose and I don't know, San Jose. I was like, maybe it's just the area I was in. I was like this way.

[00:12:42] I was like, get me out of here. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, San Jose is just like, isn't it just buildings with various companies in them? Like, I don't, yeah, I don't think it's, it's not like an exciting area. Yeah.

[00:13:00] There's, yeah, I think there's a lot of tech out there. Yeah. I was also stay close to like San Jose airport and that was a dump. I did not feel safe. Oh wow. Yeah. But it was fine. No, so.

[00:13:16] So yeah, that was last weekend and I got back on the same night and I'm so glad to be back in New York because New York is the best. There's nothing like that. I never went anywhere else. Yes. Although I'm proud of you, you were entertaining other ideas

[00:13:31] and thoughts. Sure. You know, is huge. Yeah. Well, but. Let's be real. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. I mean, I'm proud of you for even considering that. But yes. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So yes, I've been saying, you know, Johnson 1.0

[00:13:57] have been like no way, you know, like immediately they would have shut it down. Johnson version 1.56 is a little bit more open. 0.56 I love it. Yeah. Open to love. Oh, whatever that means. All right. Hey, that's good. That is great. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So yeah.

[00:14:22] But that was probably the, that's probably been the biggest development I would say over the past couple weeks. Work's been busy. Excellent. But that's not. Yeah. That's like normal. Standard operating procedure. Yes. For you, that is definitely normal. Yes. Yeah. So. Cool. Yeah.

[00:14:42] Should we talk about some Star Trek news? Yeah. Let's, yeah. Let's talk about Star Trek news because it was a big week in Star Trek. We had Lord X premiere and then the very next day we had

[00:14:54] Star Trek day, which I would say that a highlight of Star Trek day probably was the United we Trek. Um, SAG after WGA like March, right? Um, which both of us were working. So, um, we did not get to participate. No, no. Yeah.

[00:15:17] I was going to, I was actually interested because I think like what John, I think John Billingsley and a few other folks were kind of making the rounds talking about the United we Trek events. Yeah. Events, I suppose. So I was kind of actually curious. Yeah.

[00:15:36] There's one in New York, one in LA. So I was kind of curious about it, but there's no way it was like from 10 to noon. I was like, uh, I'm at meetings. I'm not like going to be able to get away. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:15:47] I mean, I was unexpectedly put to work. I was going to catch up for a few hours and then, uh, our network went down at works. Yeah. That's unfortunate. Um, I went to work. Um, so the others did not have to go. Yeah. Um, so yes.

[00:16:06] Um, and then I ended up doing my work there. So, and I get a few other things done and caught up. So which it was fine other than being there all day on it, you know, on a day where now with my newer schedule, I'm supposed

[00:16:20] to be off on Fridays. I was worked a full day on Friday. So I am hoping to bank that and take that this coming Thursday and have a three day weekend this coming week. So okay. All right. Um, but we'll see, we'll see what happens.

[00:16:35] It really unfortunately my job relies on other people doing theirs and we all know how that works. I think that's most jobs. And we all know how that usually works out. So yes, um, we'll see, but, um, yeah.

[00:16:52] So we were both busy, but, um, kudos to everyone who, uh, went out and marched with, uh, SAG after and the WGA. Yeah. I'm hoping that they come to some sort of resolution sometimes saying it's just tracking. Yeah.

[00:17:13] I mean, it's, um, well, yeah, it's, uh, I'm, I'm all for them being on the strike as long as possible to get the, get what they need. Yeah. Get what they need to live in, live an average life.

[00:17:29] Like not even like it's not, it's not as if they're, they're all asking for money to, yeah. A lot of them don't have enough for healthcare. It's like, yeah. It's not. Yeah. So it's just, uh, it's, you know, I'm fine with, you know, it going on.

[00:17:45] I know that I want them to come to a resolution because I want the, the studios to give in. Um, but I don't want, uh, SAG after or the WGA to give in prematurely and not get what they need.

[00:18:00] So I am here for as long as we need to be here. And, um, as a side note, I mean there's still plenty of stuff to watch on, uh, on foundation on Apple TV plus. Yes. So that's show that people are not watching right now.

[00:18:19] I will say right now, right? Right. That's how people are not watching. I don't, I mean it is a, it is a good show. I have started season two. I have. You have to say that. I finished season one and I started season two and I

[00:18:34] finally I was like, I didn't have anything I really wanted to listen to on my commutes or on my commute. So I last night I downloaded, I started, I finished episode one of season two last night and then I downloaded the foundation podcast. Okay. Look, where?

[00:18:51] Um, yes, I don't know. I don't know him from, you know, Joe Schmo on the street, but, um, he was talking to the executive producer of the show. Um, so I have that to listen to you.

[00:19:05] I, I actually am going to go back and I think I'm going to go back and rewatch the first and second episodes because so when I loaded up Apple TV after I renewed, I signed back up for it

[00:19:16] or I got two free months for something and I finally decided to use that. Okay. Um, I, um, loaded it up and it was already an episode three. So I was like, okay, I'll just pick up wherever I left off

[00:19:29] because, and thankfully I did because it wasn't until midway through episode four, which I was by the end of three, I was like, okay, no, I've given this two shots. Uh-huh. It's so slow. It doesn't make sense. Um, What do you mean doesn't make sense?

[00:19:49] It doesn't make sense. It doesn't, it doesn't, it does not make sense. Uh, It totally makes sense. You're dumb. Uh, maybe, uh, well, I mean, perhaps to some, it did not make sense to me on the first watch. Okay.

[00:20:02] It still didn't make sense to me on by the end of episode three, I decided to give episode four a go and I think somewhere in the midst of, in the middle of episode four, I was mildly interested in what was happening and being able to piece it

[00:20:19] together. Um, so I do kind of want to go back and see episodes one and two. Of season one. Of season one again. Just to kind of like recap in my head what kind of happened. I mean, they flashbacked to a lot of it, but unfortunately

[00:20:35] or fortunately, you know, it's when Salvor jumps into or does these little things with her where she's connected to Gail and she's in a different place. So spoilers for season one. Now, season two is almost over as I found out. Yes. One more episode. So, um, but yeah.

[00:20:57] So anyway, um, so I'm, you know, I'm into it now. It is complex. I think season two does a better job because season one. Okay. This is not a foundation podcast as a larger podcast, but let's talk about very quickly foundation. Foundation season one is interesting because they

[00:21:15] focus on a lot of world building versus character building, um, which I think maybe do some. Yes. But it's a lot more about building the universe and building up the mythology. And you don't really spend that much time with individual characters.

[00:21:29] Um, cause the thing is the show spans so much time that people come and go. Um, season two is different because you actually spend time with the characters in a continuous way. So you actually, yeah, that's just kind of a spoiler,

[00:21:43] but season all season two, you don't jump. You don't say you don't jump like decades. You know, there are literally episodes in season one near like 20 decades later, 20 decades there, like two, like, like, you know, two decades later or something like that.

[00:21:56] And then before you know it, you jump like a century ahead. You know, like it's just like, it's a little bit hard to follow. Sometimes, you know, it's, it's like these like really grand brush strokes about like the galaxy. But then season two things come into a little

[00:22:11] more focused. So, um, I really enjoy season one, but season two is better. Okay. Well, I just started season two and, um, yeah. So I've got that to watch now. Watching one piece with Dennis, which I'm really enjoying.

[00:22:26] Oh, are you ever watched like the anime or the main game? I watched the like first, I watched the like preview of the anime on Netflix and I was like, okay, you know, I kind of actually really like the live action of this. Okay.

[00:22:40] I've never really gotten into the anime. I don't really like pirates. Like pirates are boring. Um, but it's fine. Yeah. I haven't watched it. No, it's interesting. It's funny. It's cute. It's a good diversion. So watching that as well. So there are things new things coming out and

[00:22:58] I'm sure there are some things. Oh, and what so the other thing I want to talk about, which we've talked about before is for all mankind. I looked, I went, I looked at that again and it's been over a year since the last

[00:23:11] episode of season three and I'm like, oh, wow, season four or is season four season four. I mean, it was in production. Was it? Oh, okay. Yeah. I figured you would know. So, um, yeah, it's been over a year now since from in kind, which is actually

[00:23:29] a really great show. It is a good show. So, but we've talked about for a man kind as well. I don't love how much they jump ahead because I don't want everyone to be geriatrics, but it's fine. Oh, right. Yes. It's getting cold now. So it's fine.

[00:23:49] But it is, it was a good show. Yeah. We'll see what season four brings maybe someday. So yeah. And then the morning shows coming back as well. Oh yeah. Well, we have time is back. I don't know if you're watching if you watch. Oh yeah. We did.

[00:24:06] Yeah, we are watching Wheel of Time. That was also confusing to get back into as well. Slow. It's slow. Yeah. So there's some stuff out there. There's stuff. Watch because after the Wheel of Time we have nothing, nothing. I know until whenever Discovery comes back. Whatever that is.

[00:24:26] Yeah. Early 2024? Sure. But that's only if they've recorded the vamp, you know, the extra material to support it, right? They didn't record any of that then. I don't know. We won't see it until after the strike probably. And then after that it's like who knows.

[00:24:45] So two things, three things I noticed. So I did watch the Star Trek Day special. Oh yeah. I will give you the TL. Yeah. It wasn't great. I'll be honest. And I like Jerry O'Connell and I love Tony Newsom and Ernie Cordero. It's not Ernie Cordero. It's Ernesto.

[00:25:04] I don't know his name. Right. I don't know his name. I don't know his name. I don't know his name. Rutherford. So they were fine and getting it. They did what they could. But it was not an outstanding effort. But the three things,

[00:25:22] well two of them were together too. They did mention that both Starfleet Academy and the Section 31 thing are still in production. Oh okay. Or they're in the Starfleet Academy. So I'm going to go through the whole thing. I'm going to go through the whole thing.

[00:25:39] And so that was definitely stated. And then the other thing that was very obvious to me at least was that there was obviously no mention of prodigy at all. In any of this. So yeah, those are my takeaways from that. And there's a preview for

[00:25:57] very short tracks which I literally just watched while we were beginning to get set up to record this. Right. So yeah. Yeah. I don't have a lot to say about Star Trek Day. I hope the march went well because you all didn't miss anything

[00:26:15] if you were waiting for content to dead. I didn't bother watching it because I heard it was bad. Yeah, you know. And I did see a few people that I recognized in a New York kind of piece about quizzing random people on the street about Starfleet Academy.

[00:26:33] That was like with Jackie Cox, right? So. But anyway, yeah. So those are my takeaways from that and the fact that I lost approximately 20 minutes of my life too. Oh my God. That's so sad. Yeah. So. Yeah, I heard that. I was talking to someone else about this

[00:26:53] and he was like, yeah, you see it better now it's not the right way. Yeah, it's just to you. So anyway, so there's that. I'm sure it's like, yeah, I think that's writer strike. I don't know if they would have done a better job,

[00:27:08] but obviously with the writer strike, they were also kind of more limited with what they could do. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I guess so given that most of it pre-recorded before the strike or I mean, it would have had to have been pre-recorded before the SAG after strike.

[00:27:27] Well, because I heard the animated shows, the people who work for animated shows, they're under the rules. Oh, they have a different thing. Yeah, that's true. So, but that would, oh, so, technically I think Jerry Connell, yeah, Tonya Sim and got it. Got it. So would be under

[00:27:47] different regulations? Well, they're all still members of SAG after two. So. Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of complicated. Yeah. So anyway, I'm going to make the assumption that it was recorded between yeah, before the actors went on strike. So, yeah, any who so, yeah, that's the news

[00:28:09] from Star Trek Day other than what else we have. Well, I did. So did you like the very short track? I liked it. But I like random comedy like that. Yeah, I mean, it was very random. Clearly not canon, which makes sense. Right. It's very adult swim.

[00:28:30] Yes, it is very adult swim. I would I agree with that. Yeah, like so. Ruth or Keith or something. Ethan packed a spock, right? Ethan packed a spock in it. But and I thought I was trying to listen. I don't think Kirk was played by Paul.

[00:28:45] No, no, Kirk was played by someone else. I don't remember his name, but the problem is he didn't sound like Kirk or look like Kirk, which I did not understand. Right. Yes. I just don't know. I was a little confused. It was like if he wasn't wearing yellow

[00:29:00] and sitting in the captain's chair, like even the haircut, it was like, I was like, that's not his hair. Like it didn't look like him. Yeah. I don't know because animated spock looked like animated series spot. Yeah, right. Right. Kirk did not. Correct.

[00:29:17] I would understand that creative choice. And I've only watched a couple of episodes of the animated series. So, you know, I've never watched all 22 episodes of it. So, right. But even I could tell that something off was off with Kirk and I was actually kind of really listening

[00:29:35] to see if it was Paul Wesley, which I thought would have been a good... Pete Holmes played him. He's a comedian. Don't know. Pete Holmes. Oh, a comedian. Okay. Well anyway, so yeah, that was, you know, a mildly enjoyable three and a half minutes of my...

[00:29:53] Yeah, it was like, it's silly. It's funny. It's like whatever. It was very short. I did not know where to go to until you told me to just Google it and it was the top YouTube thing, but, you know, I haven't seen it, you know, anyway.

[00:30:08] It wasn't on Paramount Plus. It wasn't, you know, somewhere. I think it's on Star Trek.com and YouTube. Okay. So we have that. Yeah. We had that. So, that's sort of our roundup. Does there anything else that newsworthy, news wise? Um, I don't...

[00:30:28] Well, let's talk briefly about this kid, Cudi. Cudi. Oh yeah, the kid Cudi thing. Ah! I don't know anything about it. Um, I mean, I literally have as much information as you do. I just don't... I think it's interesting. Maybe it's just their way of trying

[00:30:43] to get in new fans or something. Yeah. I don't know... Kid Cudi from, you know, anyone. Uh, so... I don't really know if he's a user. I felt old initially. I did like the promo where he's sitting on the bridge. Uh-huh. In a command uniform.

[00:31:04] So I thought that was interesting. Um... Yeah. Well, other than that, I guess there is a game coming out Star Trek Infinite. Coming out for Mac and PC, which I was excited that they... there was a game for Mac. Um, the primary Mac person. Um...

[00:31:24] But you're not a gaming person. So... I'm not a gaming person, so... So whatever. Uh-huh. But it's at least on a platform that I would... I have access to, right? That you could physically access if you wanted to. Yes. Right. If I wanted to play the game,

[00:31:40] I could play it because I have a Mac. You liked having the options. So I do like having the option. I'm just happy to have the option. Um, and to hear it wasn't like a PS5 game or something that... I do not have any access to. So...

[00:31:58] Um, so there's that. There's a game, there's clothing, and there's a song, I guess, coming out. It's merch. Whatever. Sure. So... Uh, that's all we have. And it's coming out in October. So the next time we record or, you know, maybe we'll have more information.

[00:32:17] I have no idea. No idea. But, um... That is... I think that's the state of Star Trek right now. Although the Picard Blu-ray is coming out soonish, I want to say. Oh yeah, did you see that Deletes scene with Worf? I did not. Oh, okay.

[00:32:38] Um, so TV Line had, I think, the exclusive for that Deletes scene, which is going to be on the Blu-ray, but it's with Worf. They're in Deistrum and Worf is talking about... I'm glad they cut it because literally it's like one of those moments where

[00:32:53] they're in that lab with, um, with data. Some type of Android, right? Oh yeah. And, you know, they need to leave and Worf Delves, it's like one of those situations where like a character delves into a backstory during an emergency situation. Oh, our favorite kind of situation.

[00:33:09] Yeah, I was like, okay, maybe they hurry it up like they need, they need to like, you know, like get, you know, because at that point what they were trying to like get the information about like what the change in store, right? So I was like, okay,

[00:33:20] you need to get this information and get out. But literally everything stops because these Rikers like, Worf, why did you become why did you become like a pacifist and literally I'm like, okay, you really don't have this don't have to have this conversation here.

[00:33:33] Like it doesn't need to happen. So I'm glad they cut it, but it was a weird... so it was only a minute and a half but it was weird because Worf was like, yeah, like I'm going to ruin it for you. You can watch it whenever.

[00:33:45] But Worf was basically like, yeah, basically I spent years like hunting changelings and one time he accidentally killed someone like he thrust his knife into someone thinking that she was a changing but it was a human. I was like, how does that make any sense? First of all,

[00:34:04] it was after the Dominion Wars while he'd be like hunting changelings it made no, it made them make any sense. And second of all, why would you be stabbing a changeling? It was not going to do like I, you know,

[00:34:14] I was just like so there's like multiple reasons where it had not made sense. Like the scenes didn't make sense for the moment. Like did not. Why was Worf, yeah, why was Worf hunting changelings that made zero sense, especially after the Dominion War

[00:34:30] why would you be doing that? Like it doesn't make sense. And then yeah, the, you know, the fact that he, so he absolutely, because he accidentally killed like an innocent, which he said he's never done before. That made him choose his way of pacifism.

[00:34:44] And I was like, okay, I roll whatever doesn't really make sense. Got it. Okay. Interesting. Anywhere. But on all, they, the moment, the episode did not need that scene. So I am glad they edited it out because they probably would have raised more questions

[00:35:02] the end of the movie. Cause they probably would have raised more questions than answers. It's like one of those things, which makes sense. That's what editing is for. Yeah. So, Oh, I did not know about that. Yeah. Yeah. I may have pre-ordered the Blu-ray

[00:35:20] because I did come with you. Do you have a Blu-ray player? I, so in closing out one of our offices, there was some old tech there and a Blu-ray player was available and I was getting it. Oh, okay. I, I, I was like, why do you have this?

[00:35:37] And I was like, I don't know, there's a few things that I might want to watch. Right. So, I mean, you know, I think the fact that Prodigy was suddenly taken away from us. I was like, for months. Yeah. It sort of, you know,

[00:35:54] brings back that idea that, you know, the tech, you know, you know, the tech can go, or the tech has the full of these, content can go away. You know, content can go away. Shooting content can go away. Yeah. So, oh, it doesn't look like it had ordered,

[00:36:10] pre-ordered. Okay. Oh, you thought you pre-ordered it? I thought I pre-ordered it. JK. JK. But anyway, that's coming out soon. Maybe even this week. I don't know. But anyway, I probably should rewatch Picard's Is In The Rain. I mean, I'm in the midst of it.

[00:36:28] I think I'm up to episode three. I don't know. I don't know. If you're Carlis Paramount Plus, it's like really over. Like it's really over. Oh, yeah. No, it's definitely, yeah. That'll be over. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So, I haven't heard any news because

[00:36:46] I think it would at what? At SCLV, that the Hageman brothers were like, oh, they were like, they were saying that they're really close to finding a home for Prodigy. But I haven't heard any updates since then. So, yeah. I don't, you know, I don't think they're,

[00:37:00] I mean, it's possible if they, if it really has a fans, they could be in negotiations, like contract negotiations, and that takes some minute. It's possible. Yeah. Yeah. They don't want to say anything. They were, I think I heard from that that they were hopeful. They were very,

[00:37:13] they said they were literally, they literally said they were 99% sure. Which is very, very confident. Yeah. That is very confident. All right, great. So, okay, that's a very high probability then. So you must be very confident. So, yeah. Anyway, cool. Well, that is good news and hopefully, yeah,

[00:37:32] we'll get to see maybe in that, you know, void of no Star Trek, maybe there will be Star Trek Prodigy. Maybe, maybe. But who knows? In the meantime, I have a Bluebird player now. So, maybe I will, reason for you to buy more shit

[00:37:50] and play in your apartment. No, not much. I mean, DVDs don't take up that much room. I throw all my like desks. I can't. Yeah. Well, anyway, so that's all the news. We have two great episodes of Lower Decks to talk about. Yeah.

[00:38:10] So why don't we get into the first one? The season premiere, Tubics, which is such a great title and and Voyager fans, we, you know, Prodigy is gone, but Lower Decks season four, episode one, gives you some of that back. And so, and I am, you know,

[00:38:38] Voyager is not my most favorite series. So, I'm going to need you to explain, I don't remember the clown and I don't remember. And I think the other like Hugh Jackman character thing was like a love interest for Jane Wayne. Yeah, from Fairhaven. Okay. From Fairhaven. Yes.

[00:39:02] So I don't remember the clown thing. I don't remember the micro fash. What? You can't remember the macro virus? How? I mean, something as big as that. It's such a ridiculous episode. Well, this is probably why I don't remember it. But anyway, a lot of great callbacks,

[00:39:24] the Voyager theme, the Voyager bridge done up in 2D animation looked great and Boymler being Boymler because he freaks out about stuff and right. And you know, head. He's in his own head this time, unfortunately, instead of freaking out about being on the freaking Voyager. But right.

[00:39:50] Which Mariner like I loved Mariners enthusiasm for this and then right. Then to know that Boymler did not have any enthusiasm for this one because he was afraid he's going to screw up his promotion. But as we learned, it's not even that he doesn't even want to get

[00:40:06] promoted. Right. Right. He feels that I thought was a really cute and sweet turn of events. Yeah. Well, I mean, I can understand he got he did get promoted once, but then that kind of blew up in his face. Right. So maybe he's just afraid to

[00:40:25] go down that path again. Well, I think, well, yeah, it definitely blew up in his face from a friendship. Well, for my like, right, getting split into two beings. I mean, his Doppler is still out there working for section 31. Right. Will we see him again? Perhaps.

[00:40:45] But I thought it was great that he did not want to ruin his relationship with Mariner. Right. Right. So I thought that was really cool and nice. And then she pumps him up and she's basically the person who recommended that he get promoted. So, right.

[00:41:03] And at the end of the session, I think we're going to have a little bit of discussion about how they keep concepts consistent. Oh, great. So, dokel right. And at the end of this the episode we get the promotion. So, their no longer ensons. I know, it's been

[00:41:23] a long time coming though we even talking about it at this point for years. Yeah. But we were also talking about the fact that how can they keep them enc since right forever and now they are not CampO a three camera Gun.

[00:41:37] It was such a great way to refresh the series. Not that I couldn't keep up with the humor or just the time frame, which is our next-generation time frame, deep-sace time frame, voyage time frame, like that whole era. So I loved it. I thought it was great.

[00:42:09] But what did you think about this? Yeah, I texted you right after I watched it. I was like, that was a lot. It was just so fast-paced. I could not believe how much it fit into 23 minutes or whatever. And it didn't feel like it, right?

[00:42:28] It didn't feel like I didn't feel like I was... It did not feel that short. I was like, they fit in so much. It's crazy. And it's funny because again, this harkens back to those old scientists that are changing

[00:42:45] world's episode where it's like, why did everyone talk so slow compared to lower-decks where it's so fast-paced? It's literally like, it's like they're like manic in comparison. So it's just like so much happens. And the amount of things, the barrage of Easter eggs from Voyager, it's crazy.

[00:43:10] So yeah, so the clowns from the thaw, which was like a season one episode. I think it's season one or season two. I think pretty sure it's season one. It's when they go down to a planet, they find these people in stasis and from what I

[00:43:26] recall, they were sharing some sort of like their consciousnesses were being kept active in some sort of hollow matrix essentially. Their consciousnesses were living... Their bodies were in stasis, but their minds were active in some basically share consciousness. And they were at first, it was fine.

[00:43:47] And they had these other hollow characters. But then slowly the whole simulation started turning evil because it was taking their bad thoughts and then eventually materialized into this crown. So it wasn't on a holodeck. It was literally in like this shared consciousness kind of deal.

[00:44:07] But basically the crew goes down and a few crew members, they go into the simulation I guess and they're like, what's going on? Why can't we wake them up? And basically there's clown that is an evil clown. It's an evil...

[00:44:23] It's like it is an evil clown that is terrorizing them and killing them off actually. So that was a very memorable episode. It was really dark. So that's where the clown was. Michael Sullivan with some fair haven and Captain Jan-Way love interests. And you know, Chaotica obviously.

[00:44:44] Yeah, of course. Yeah, that was the easiest one of them all. That was the easiest one. The macro virus that was from... I don't remember what I think it was season three or something like that.

[00:44:54] It was when Jan-Way and Helix come back and Voyager is adrift and basically because this virus had taken over the ship. So that was a macro virus. And that was like when Jan-Way went commando and she started killing all the viruses. Okay.

[00:45:14] Anyway, yeah, I only did rewatch like two years ago. So I still remember a bunch of this stuff. But you said... And then it's actually from season late in season two. So it was the macro virus one? Yeah, no, the thaw. Sorry, going back to season two. Okay.

[00:45:30] I was like it was early. I was like season one and season two. No, it was the end of season two. So... Well, season one was short. So I think it was almost 16 episodes or whatever. Yeah, so. Yeah. Um, anyway. So yeah, there was so many references.

[00:45:47] Obviously we had the reference to threshold with the salmander babies. Yeah, we had that. That was great. And what else was there? Obviously Tuvix. Duh. That was the cheese. The cheese. Yeah, the neural gel packs. I remember what episode that was when the neural gel packs got

[00:46:09] infested with the fungus or whatever it was. Right. Bacteria from the cheese. But that was also early. I mean, we had the regeneration. Right. The Borg Alcos. Yeah, the Borg Alcos. But it was just funny. It was just like, oh my God, Borg is so random.

[00:46:30] There's just like so much shit. You know? Yeah, even Ransom says that shit got freaky. Yeah. Yeah. Unforutious. So... But yeah, it was I think overall it was obviously like a love letter to Voyager. And I really enjoyed it. I love fast paced random shit like that.

[00:46:51] I mean, I always find that stuff funny. And the Tuvix stuff was obviously of course it got out of hand. Like of course it would. Given that it's lower decks, of course, you know, spirals. Right. And yeah, it was good. And yeah, I'm glad they got promoted.

[00:47:10] I'm glad that finally happened because again, we've been talking about it for a long time. Like it doesn't make sense for them to say answers forever. And it was odd that Rutherford was the only one that didn't get promoted. But right. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:47:24] Then it was a ratified in next episode. So it's like, whatever, you know, it doesn't really matter. Yep. But I did like, yeah, I did like the Boiler, you know, again, him kind of getting in his own head and he needed Mariner to snap him out of it.

[00:47:45] And that was great. Oh, we didn't talk about to Lynn to Lynn was I really like to Lynn. I think she brings a different voice to the cast. And you know, she's so deadpan. It just makes things funnier when she's like, yeah. They fit her in nicely.

[00:48:02] She doesn't feel extraneous like they've never, you know, so. You know, is that your dog? Yes, that is my dog. Playing with his bone again while we're recording the podcast. Of course. You know, you need to get the solution is you need to get another dog. So that.

[00:48:25] Oh yeah. So it'll be double the noise and he has like a play pal. They never going to happen. I told Dennis this I've told everyone this there will not be another dog. No. But then he'll have a friend and then he'll like bother you less.

[00:48:40] No, then I'll just have double the bother. All of you think that. I mean, it's quite well noted that I, you know, have already little bed space to sleep with on our queen size beds. So yes, getting another dog will not make this better.

[00:49:01] You guys have gotten like a California king. I don't understand why. I know. Well, yeah, we thought that the room wasn't big enough. It would have been fine. Yeah, it would have been. It would have been fine. But it would have been fine.

[00:49:15] I you know what the thing is though? I mean, I'm sure it would have come up. But I know the whole total segue here. I don't know that if we had gotten a king, I don't know that I would have made the leap to getting a California king.

[00:49:32] So a California king is massive. Yeah, yes. But it's also it's for me, it's the length that's important. Right? It's not that I mean, so the problem with is also given that now you have like three creatures in your bed. Yes.

[00:49:49] And you know, we'll and Dennis rolls out. Yes. So the problem, the thing about the California king is it's longer. So which is good for me because I'm taller. I'm pretty sure California king is something like probably two

[00:50:07] queens together or something like that to like or, you know, a good like one and two thirds of a queen. Whereas my impression of a king sized bed and I have not I have not double checked the measurements of any of this, but

[00:50:23] I'm pretty sure the king sized beds that we've had have been too short. So I think that it's almost like two full sized beds put together. That is my impression of the bed situation. But anyway, so I'm looking at like, anyway, let's you're looking at measurements.

[00:50:44] Don't worry about it. It's not a big deal. We can talk about this offline anyway. Going back to going back to what we were talking about Voyager and Lord Dax. Oh, and we were tired. The dog interrupted our podcast. Yeah, your doctor interrupts the podcast.

[00:51:03] Yes, he seems to want to play with this bone every time we record. But anyway, and now he's on the. Yes. So anyway, why don't you start in talking about I have no bones yet? I must flee. Yeah.

[00:51:22] So obviously, I think the big thing that we were left off on we left off on from the previous episode is Mariner also getting promoted and her having a very, very negative reaction to that.

[00:51:38] And I mean, obviously at the end of two Vicks, I think it was rather for no or was it handy? I think it was handy that said, oh, we're so low with that. Curse. It's Marlutin and junior grade.

[00:51:48] It's not like, you know, it's not like we aren't like still very junior. So, you know, we kind of left it on that note. This episode was all about, I mean, obviously, I think, you know,

[00:51:59] there were multiple plot lines, but a big part of it was Mariner self sabotaging and trying to get demoted while rather for trying to get promoted. And Boiler is trying to get settled into his new living situation. That's basically what did you say? What was that?

[00:52:21] Oh, no, I think they said someone said. We're now the bottom rung of the mid level command. Yeah, some, you know, some way they have a long way to go. Yes, essentially, there were many levels in between them and being commander, I guess, so they're fine.

[00:52:41] Like you're sick. Yeah. And you're still playing time to be Lordex. Yeah. But yeah, so we basically follow Mariner as she and ransom and Gary go and visit a zoo, a sash, menagerie run by Narsch.

[00:53:00] And then Boiler and it's his comedy of errors when it comes to his new living quarters. He switches multiple times. He has his quarters that are next to the buzzer collector. Then he gets upgraded quote unquote to a room that's in between the holodex. Yeah.

[00:53:21] And then he's in the Jeffries too. I think that's when he moves into Jeffries too. And then he bunks with Rutherford after Rutherford appointed Lieutenant Junior grade, right? So by the end of this episode again, that's fully resolved. And Rutherford knows how to control the viewports.

[00:53:41] Wait, yeah, which I was like, oh, come on. Did he not even like investigate or ask some people to dim these windows? Like, right. Yeah. I'm he's never done that before. Like, that's weird. You know, there are no very, it's very boy and like it's so on brand.

[00:53:58] Yeah. For him and his foolishness. So and I'm trying to think, I think, I mean, the, I think the. Oh yes. And I mean, yes, Rutherford's journey to being promoted and running into a nemesis. Oh yeah. Yeah. So did you do? I think we talked about this week.

[00:54:18] You watch Seinfeld, right? Yes. I mean, I have. Yes. So now I get the reference. Oh yeah. It's like Newman. It's yeah. It's Newman reference. Newman instantly. I knew it was a Seinfeld reference. I recognize that I've seen this before, but I could not place it. Yeah.

[00:54:36] So it's not one of my favorite shows. So that's great. Yeah. It was clear. It was a clear Seinfeld reference. It is really great. And I don't know if Ensign Livik is going to come back, but it was, it was pretty good.

[00:54:52] But I mean the main, the obvious, I mean the A storyline was definitely Mariner and Branson and Gary on the station. Yeah. And we got introduced to Mubsea, which was, which is now apparently like everyone wants some Mubsea plush. I mean, it's a cute animal. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:55:18] I mean, it's ripe for that kind of market, right? It's the perfect plushie. Yeah. And it's essentially a Pokemon. Like it's an animal that says the name of, like says his name over and over. Like Mubsea. That's what Pokemon do. You know? I did not know that. Pikachu?

[00:55:39] Pikachu? Okay. I only say Pikachu. Like Pikachu, Pikachu. Oh, okay. Yeah. No. Have you never watched the anime? No, no. Ever. Like one episode. You know what I'm saying? Like one episode of the Pokemon anime. Yeah. No, it's not, it's not part of my repertoire. I probably,

[00:55:56] Oh my God. I did not pick up on the fact that all of them say their name as. Yes. So all of them like Boba store can only say a Boba, Boba, Boba store. And then Charles, I was like, Charizard, Charizard. I had no idea.

[00:56:11] No idea about this. That's literally all they do. Like literally all they do. So on the, in anime, in the movies, all the Pokemon can only say their names, which I guess is the reason why they're called those names.

[00:56:25] It wouldn't be the way around, but literally it's a Pokemon on the Star Trek. Okay. So everyone wants, everyone wants a Mubsea plush. It's really fantastic. I mean, the thing that bothered me, which is also SOP for Mariner is this whole self-stabotaging thing.

[00:56:45] Like we've seen it before like multiple times before. Yeah. As I get it, I'm hoping that this is it. I'm hoping she's, you know, ransom. Sutter straight. Yeah. I think that this is all the people have pointed this out before.

[00:57:00] Like other people have done this literally multiple times. Right. Hopefully it sticks this time and she can just move on. Yeah.

[00:57:11] And I think it was, it lent itself well to this episode because at least for a good portion of it, I was able, I thought she might have done this. I did too. I was like, did she? But then when she said like, I didn't do this.

[00:57:26] I'm like, she wouldn't lie about that. Like. Yeah. Yeah. But I, there was some good minutes there where I thought. Oh yeah. Yeah, that she had done this.

[00:57:36] So it wouldn't be like out of, yeah, it wouldn't be our character, you know, especially in the vein of self-stabotaging for her to do that. But then, you know, she's not going to lie about it. Like if she did it, she would say I did it.

[00:57:48] Like, you know, so when she said like, it's not me. I mean, I was like, yeah, then, you know, there was something else. Then I suspect. I didn't make that jump. But yeah, I understand it now. Yeah. Then I was like, is it Gary? Gary do it?

[00:58:02] Then I was suspecting other people. I suspect Gary as suspecting Nars. I did not suspect the humans. No, I didn't expect that. I did not. I thought it was once it wasn't Mariner.

[00:58:14] And I think she probably in that same brass, she probably said it was Nars or whatever his name is. Nars. Nars. Nars. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm hoping, I agree with you.

[00:58:34] I hope this is sort of the end of the self sabotage and she can now work through the next level of her career with the four of them, five of them. Right. You know, so. Are you going to miss their hallway beds?

[00:58:52] I mean, it was a nice set piece. I'm excited to see what they do with. So we see where Rutherford and Boynmler live, but we do not know where Mariner, Tendi or Talyn are staying. So we still have that to kind of see.

[00:59:09] I'm happy that they've got their own quarters. I think they are sort of, they're good friends. I should like the match up in this episode. So, you know, putting Mariner and ransom together was different. You know, we hadn't seen that really since season one. Yeah.

[00:59:26] Since season one, I'm pretty sure you're right. Yeah. So because she referenced everything that he had done to her before, which I'm pretty sure was mostly in season one. So that was a good match up. I do love Tendi and Rutherford together.

[00:59:43] I'm, you know, Boynmler is a thing on his own. So which is, you know, which is good for him. I'm pretty standard and then let's see. Talyn, did we see much of Talyn in this episode? I don't know that we saw much of her in this episode.

[01:00:05] I don't think, yeah, I don't think she was prominent if she was even in the episode. Yeah. Yeah, she was a member. So I like the mix up of characters and set up here, which is something that we hadn't seen in a while. Which is kind of nice.

[01:00:25] And then, you know, two other things to say. So we didn't even talk about the connecting thing that's going on in the episode. Right. I just remembered. I was like, oh yeah, we forgot to talk about that before.

[01:00:36] Yeah, we haven't even talked about the attacking alien thing that's coming. Yeah, I literally just remembered. And then the other thing is that I, two things, these are related but they're like, I feel like the opening sequence looks much like next level. Like they've gone. The title sequence?

[01:01:01] Yeah, the title sequence I feel like has gone through a little bit of upscale. Really? Yeah. And just on some of the finer details, it looks a little sharper maybe to me. I don't know.

[01:01:16] And then there is the addition of the probe from Star Trek IV to the attack scene. Oh wait, really? Yeah, the probe. Oh, I didn't notice that. Yeah, it's so good. You don't hear it. I was like, I remember watching it. I was like, is there something new?

[01:01:37] So listen really carefully but you hear the thumb of the thumb of that thing. Oh my God. But it goes right into the next scene where the bug that's attached to the cell thumps to or whatever. Yeah.

[01:01:54] But also, yeah actually so two things that I, so the opening sequence of the serritos and the Starfield where it gets hit by a few rocks. And that's where I noticed it being a little bit sharper.

[01:02:10] And then if you notice behind the depth behind the Star Trek Lower Decks, you know, Moniker or whatever. The title? The title. You see a little bit more, at least I noticed some, a little bit more depth of the universe behind it. Oh really?

[01:02:32] And then the scene, obviously then you see, I saw the pro from Star Trek IV in that battle scene and then right after that if you look at the bug that's attached to there in a cell and that whole thing, it's much more sharp.

[01:02:48] It actually looks slightly different than previous season. Oh, okay. Those are just my, I mean I could be wrong. Maybe my screen was extra high depth. I don't know. But yeah, so definitely some upgrades from this season. But I think it looks great.

[01:03:09] Yeah, I think they are, they must be doing some tweaking behind the scenes on some of this because I think that it's looking even better this season. And if now I need to rewatch it because I did not notice the whip robe. So yes.

[01:03:24] Aha, so it's taking another look. It was because that's, that's literally the scene that they've been adding to. I was like, what did they do this season? I couldn't find a difference. Yeah, so evidently by powers of observation aren't limited.

[01:03:37] So I think for me these two, certainly this season premiere this year is much better than what I thought last year. Remember how I was feeling last year? Yes, I agree. Last year. Because last year I felt that it was kind of stunted, it felt a little stunted.

[01:03:52] You know, it felt more of the same. It felt more of a brain repetitive. Yeah, more of the same. Exactly. So I was, I'm really excited for this season because I feel like listening to feedback or something which is great. Yeah, yeah. So it feels more fresh.

[01:04:09] Definitely the promotion did a lot for that. Yeah. Do you have any theories about the big bad for the season? It don't. It takes a while. So I'm so, amenity to our listeners.

[01:04:23] I have watched a few more episodes because we got three murders and it's not really a big spoiler but it goes nowhere fast. It takes, I mean, I don't know. I don't remember how many episodes I've watched but I'm like where's it going? Where is it going?

[01:04:39] Yeah, I don't know either. Although I did, I have even, I still have watched a couple of episodes ahead but I don't remember them right now. But I do remember from the interviews pre-season, Mike McMahon saying or someone saying that this big bad or whatever

[01:04:59] starts attacking other worlds and then it starts attacking the Federation at some point. So it's not really a Federation problem right now. It's going to escalate at some point. Yeah, it's going to escalate at some point.

[01:05:11] Because we get a few more, I mean, I guess the spoiler, a few more of the scenes where I'm not going to say who's exactly who. Oh, I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure they will. We get more, we get more of the same scene.

[01:05:21] More of the same lower decks sort of like that three ships episode. Yes, it's, yeah. Which so, yeah. But after a while Mike, I get it but now what? I don't know if I'm expecting a new baddie or someone from the past baddie.

[01:05:42] So the one theory that I've heard, it's a fan theory, it's not a spoiler, it's a liven theory. Oh, alright, so it's a fan, it's not your theory. The bigger fan theory is that it is, it's, what's his name? It's Alt Boimer. Oh, okay. What's his name?

[01:06:03] William Boimer, isn't it? What? Isn't it William? Didn't he go with... One more? Didn't he choose the same name as Will Riker? Did he? Okay. I don't remember. I know, I just know he has a different name. It's not Brad. So yeah, I think it's William Boimer.

[01:06:19] I was like okay, maybe. I mean, I could see that. Because I don't, yeah, I think it would be more interesting with someone we knew versus like a completely new rando. Yeah, that's a really interesting thing.

[01:06:33] Didn't you, where were we talking and you came up with theory on something that I really liked? Ahsoka. That was Ahsoka. Okay, did you know? It was a completely different show. Obviously, a completely different show. Obviously. Okay. Do you want to also...

[01:06:52] No, I do not want to talk about it. We should have talked about it at the beginning, now it's over. Yeah, now we did not talk about Ahsoka. We'll save it for the next time. Okay, yeah, that actually makes really good sense. That's an interesting idea.

[01:07:10] Section 31, testing something and... Yeah. I was like okay maybe. Perhaps William Boimer goes a little bit crazy. Shocking. That would be, that's a good theory though. I was like okay, I will buy that. Yeah, so that is a good idea. Alright.

[01:07:27] But yeah, so far don't expect a lot of short listeners, a lot of leaves and bounds. Yeah, no this is... Episode 3, episode comes out. Our podcast episode comes out. People have seen episode 3 maybe. Yeah, there's probably another one. Not much more happens. Yeah, yeah.

[01:07:47] Now this is something that has happened throughout all of Lower Decks, right? There's been this little like de-plot that they bring to fruition towards the end of the season or whatever. Yeah, I mean you have the Paclads on Paclads. Yep. What else has there been?

[01:08:07] I'm trying to think of other things but... I feel the Paclads are the big thing for season 1 and 2. That was continuous. That was like multi-seasonal kind of. Yeah. Season 3 I don't remember what the big... Big bad or whatever. Oh, yes. Anyway, but yeah, no two good episodes.

[01:08:31] I'm glad to say that it still feels fresh. It's so funny. Yes. And... They fresh-ed it up for this year I think. More so than they did last season. Yeah. Although we had some highlights from last season like the DS9 episode. But I think...

[01:08:49] Yeah, no this feels fresh and new and I am here for it and enjoying it. Yeah, that's great. We have to savor the last of our new track. I know. It's so sad for a while. For a little while.

[01:09:06] Although the report is that once the strike is over, Strangely New Worlds can jump right back into production. Right. They're ready. That's good. But yeah. Until then. Until then. Hold on. Yeah. So... Well, yeah another episode in the can. Yeah.

[01:09:35] I mean at this rate our next episode will probably be about the finale. But we'll see. We'll see. Life is too busy. All right. Well, Mike do you want to talk a little bit about our sponsor? Yeah.

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[01:12:01] We get it. You want attention. He's actually far away. Oh is he? It sounds like he's right next to you. Yeah, no. He is not but of course it is loud and I apologize for that but what can they do?

[01:12:18] At least we can continue recording and he's not sitting on my lap. Small wins. Well that does it for this episode and yeah, let us know what you're out there watching. Or what you're going to watch after we have no more new star stories to talk about.

[01:12:43] But yeah, this has been a thing. That's it, I guess until next time. Yeah, we haven't really caught up so this is a good catch up for this. You're not. Yeah, I mean we've only slacked very little in the last month because we've been traveling.

[01:13:03] It's hard for me to slap you when I'm traveling because I'm not just like on my computer. And then yeah, you're in the class when you're traveling. Yeah definitely when I'm traveling but also when you go into work too.

[01:13:17] When I go into work I'm not sitting in front of my computer all day. Sometimes I'm like Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Tell me more. And it doesn't always show up on my phone so I don't know until later.

[01:13:31] So yeah, but it's great catching up and let's hope that Lordex continues some great episodes for the rest of the season. I mean, they have a good track record so I'm not very sure. Yeah, they're fine. Yeah. Alright, cool. Thanks everyone. Thanks, we'll see you again next time.

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