058 - Who Mourns for Adonais?

[00:00:00] 5 Year Mission The Podcast Episode 58 By now you figured out that this is

[00:00:19] Five Year Mission The Podcast Welcome to another episode of Five Year Mission, the podcast

[00:00:34] the only podcast hosted by a band called Five Year Mission.

[00:00:37] I'm your host Chris Furgen and I am Chris what?

[00:00:42] What?

[00:00:43] Do that again because I heard like a weird, zzzz during your when you said it.

[00:00:48] It's not going to get better than that.

[00:00:49] Just do it again.

[00:00:51] Just add if that buzz out.

[00:00:52] Welcome to another episode of Five Year Mission, the podcast, the only podcast hosted by

[00:01:01] a band called Five Year Mission.

[00:01:03] My name is Chris Furgen.

[00:01:04] I'll be your host along with three other intrepid gentlemen, Mike Rittenhouse say hi

[00:01:11] Mike.

[00:01:12] You're right.

[00:01:13] The first one was better.

[00:01:14] I told you, I told you.

[00:01:17] We also have Noah Butler.

[00:01:21] The excited Noah Butler and the equally as excited Patrick O'Connor.

[00:01:27] I am intrepid.

[00:01:29] Intrepid see that's I use the right word.

[00:01:33] So this episode we're going back to the what a little song is made of and we'll be discussing

[00:01:40] a fine little segment called who mourns for adonious.

[00:01:47] Yes, adonious.

[00:01:49] That's how you adonious adonious adonious.

[00:01:54] I did extensive research.

[00:01:56] I'm quite sure you know it was I think I read somewhere that it was derived from Adonis

[00:02:04] maybe yeah.

[00:02:05] I've heard people say that it's pronounced adonis.

[00:02:08] Yeah, but it's adonious in this case.

[00:02:10] Shabberdown that adonis in the episode I believe they call him adonis in the episode.

[00:02:15] Yeah, maybe I'm thinking of I remember you're really sure he's a hollow.

[00:02:20] Yeah, he's a hollow.

[00:02:22] Yeah, that's right.

[00:02:23] Another another a word.

[00:02:24] Yeah, I don't know where adonious came from.

[00:02:28] Patrick pronounces it adonious in the song.

[00:02:31] So that's how I pronounce it.

[00:02:33] I don't know.

[00:02:34] I didn't research about it too.

[00:02:37] That's a I think that's an artistic rendering of the.

[00:02:42] It also it also fit the meter like another right number of syllables if you can skip me for now.

[00:02:48] I think it's pronounced muga toe.

[00:02:53] Exactly.

[00:02:54] It's gumato.

[00:02:55] I don't know.

[00:02:57] Another grand episode where they've given us words that no one says and no one can pronounce.

[00:03:04] Patrick's the one that that wrote this episode so Patrick, why don't you.

[00:03:08] You want the episode?

[00:03:10] No, I can't say for that.

[00:03:12] I wrote the song for the episode.

[00:03:14] I can't believe for that either.

[00:03:16] It was a quick rundown of what this one's about.

[00:03:20] Well, the I mean the episode we we've all seen the episode right.

[00:03:25] I know and doing God stuff and capturing the enterprise with a giant green hand of energy.

[00:03:32] And trying to force us to worship him.

[00:03:35] All that fun stuff.

[00:03:36] This is one of those episodes that is kind of bonkers.

[00:03:41] It's just like what was weird?

[00:03:44] Who the hell thought of this weirdness kind of episodes?

[00:03:49] I think a lot of it had to do with like what sets and you know extra pieces they had hanging out at the studio that they could use.

[00:03:57] And they you know just kind of were like, oh here's something we can use.

[00:04:01] They have a set that look like like old Greek.

[00:04:06] Greek old Greece.

[00:04:09] Yeah, old Greek land.

[00:04:12] Whatever those Greeks lived.

[00:04:17] That's right.

[00:04:18] I'm not sure any answer.

[00:04:19] I like the I really like the main idea in this episode that the ancient Greek gods could have been you know more powerful alien life forms.

[00:04:35] And that's how all these stories got built around the mass how they were interpreted as gods back then.

[00:04:40] I think that's a nice place for that.

[00:04:45] Yeah, I think it's a cool idea.

[00:04:48] And in fact, I had like my freshman year in college.

[00:04:55] There was some mythology class that we were taking and the the professor showed like that entire episode and talked a whole bunch about it.

[00:05:05] I only had remembered what his point was and what he said.

[00:05:10] It's a long time ago, but he did show us that specific episode in its entirety and connected it to some mythology thing that he was trying to teach us down 18 year olds about.

[00:05:23] In this case wasn't.

[00:05:25] It was Apollo when he was alone on this planet.

[00:05:28] And all the other gods were gone right he was like the last one.

[00:05:31] Yeah, it's like they had sort of I think like ascended to some other.

[00:05:36] Yeah, okay.

[00:05:37] The higher state of being.

[00:05:39] So what was his purpose behind capturing the enterprise he was kind of displaying his power wasn't he trying to.

[00:05:47] Trying to all the people.

[00:05:50] He was getting his energy by having them worship them.

[00:05:53] Yeah, that's right.

[00:05:54] Yeah, he got his power from worship.

[00:05:57] Yeah, his ultimate goal being to ascend himself.

[00:06:02] Something like that.

[00:06:04] I don't know how to remember.

[00:06:06] I think actually I think the other great guys I just went somewhere else because no one did worship them they stopped worshiping them so they just sort of floated off into the ether but somehow he stuck around and.

[00:06:18] He was the whole doubt.

[00:06:20] I kind of liked these episodes where we don't really totally remember what we're talking about.

[00:06:28] So we just kind of introduce all these suppositions.

[00:06:32] Yeah, I think that's what happened.

[00:06:34] I think we just open ourselves of these you know, riddock to ridicule.

[00:06:40] We're getting so many emails.

[00:06:41] I don't know Star Trek.

[00:06:43] I don't know how many emails anyone.

[00:06:46] That's true.

[00:06:48] They just come to your door.

[00:06:51] So Patrick, the version of this song that everyone knows from year two, which is the last song on the album.

[00:07:01] That's not the first version of the song that you wrote.

[00:07:07] No, no actually the first time I remember this one specifically because it was the first demo.

[00:07:12] I think I gave you guys where he said, that's all right but try again.

[00:07:18] Another time and it just kind of come to me and I laid it down brought it in everybody was good with it.

[00:07:24] We just worked on the song, you know, but this particular case I had to chittle with it a bit more.

[00:07:29] And so that originally was all I think in three four and kind of slow all the way through.

[00:07:37] And the idea I had was that there's going to be like a long fade out at the end sort of hatred style with some kind of refrain.

[00:07:46] And then after people were saying, well it's too slow, it's too long, it's kind of plotting.

[00:07:52] I sped it up and I just kept the intro bit.

[00:07:56] Slow like the original version was and then went into the faster part for the rest of the song so.

[00:08:02] At that point the outro idea didn't really work so then of course we did the long intro idea instead.

[00:08:10] That is a long, but as no it was saying like the episode I mean no I wasn't saying the episode is flawed but it is somewhat flawed but the ideas of it are interesting.

[00:08:22] And so it was definitely one that I didn't want to just do a play of a play of this is what happens in the episode you know what I mean it was more about sort of the message and the theme of the episode because it that's much more interesting to me than what the actual episode does you know what I mean from scene to scene.

[00:08:37] So yeah, I was kind of just the scene that I mean the image of it that always stuck in my mind was the giant hand you know the first thing you see at the beginning because that it's hard to not remember that image you know what I mean.

[00:08:51] Yeah, it's really the green handed space because it makes no sense what's still right there with Abraham Lincoln.

[00:08:58] Exactly exactly so I mean that's semi that had to be the first thing to show up in the song so that's how it starts.

[00:09:06] I think it has a great that that beginning those first lines once you've heard it.

[00:09:12] Oh yeah it stuck in my head always associated with that song.

[00:09:16] Yeah, it's always that.

[00:09:18] Yep.

[00:09:19] And so he's a everybody listening to the long intro is just waiting for the green hand show.

[00:09:25] Which I and I speaking of the intro I thought it was really cool the way that was put together and I hadn't heard any of it until I heard the finished version.

[00:09:39] And I thought it was really cool because we took a lot of.

[00:09:45] Is that the one where we took pieces?

[00:09:48] Yeah, the other songs yeah and put them in there and I thought that was really really a really cool idea.

[00:09:54] So there's slowed way down or sped way up or turn you know backwards.

[00:10:00] And this album in particular I thought year two for me was the one where we seemed like we were the most experimental and trying different things because we kind of laid to one down pretty pretty you know quickly as we would play it live.

[00:10:13] Whereas this one we thought well we have a little bit more time to just see what happens and just try things out.

[00:10:18] And this was sort of the epitome of that.

[00:10:22] Because this intro bit that goes on for so long.

[00:10:25] Yeah, I definitely think this is I think we had the songs themselves were very experimental but we experiment a lot when we wanted to sing and recording so yeah I definitely agree with that.

[00:10:38] And the thing that I added so Mike was adding in these bits of you know sampled bits from other songs on the intro and I was I did this early talk to text thing where I had.

[00:10:48] I took some ideas of dialogue from the episode and sort of typed it in and transcribed it in this early talk to text feature with these under robotic sounding voices yeah yeah.

[00:11:01] So it kind of mixed in they do sound really robotic almost like the computers talking to itself.

[00:11:07] It was like lines of dialogue but then also you took lyrics from like every song.

[00:11:14] So so in in those robotic voices.

[00:11:19] Like it includes like at least one lyric from every song a couple of songs that has quite a few of them, but they're kind of just all blended in and no like random order.

[00:11:31] Yeah we weren't trying to make any kind of coherency.

[00:11:35] We were just playing around sticking them in there wherever we felt like it was supposed to be a little trippy I think you know which that info bit does seem kind of trippy but I don't remember actually if you started with the samples from the music or if I started with those voices and then I can't remember which way it worked but yeah.

[00:11:57] I don't remember which came first but I know like at practice and in recording we were trying to figure out how to start the song because we didn't know if we wanted you to just jump right in with the vocal immediately or if we wanted there to be like to run through the chords a few times.

[00:12:14] And then it just turned into us like making it longer and longer and adding all this random stuff and yeah I know we took like the idea to do the to do the long outro so I think I naturally sort of gravitated doing it as a long intro just like that idea.

[00:12:32] I think it worked really well because it gives it's the very last song in the album didn't we split it up into two tracks so you could skip that long and slow yeah.

[00:12:43] Yeah I remember we discussed what we were going to do with the first track whether it was going to be not be listed which would be weird because then it would just skip a number and you think oh it's a misprint or if we were going to title it like you know pray loot to who mourns we're donating forever.

[00:13:00] I think we're just letting us a number of no title.

[00:13:04] Yeah I did too and I really like how it flows you know from kind of this really trippy kind of floaty intro into this kind of mellow beginning and then just takes off and I just I really like how this song turned out yeah Chris I want to correct something you said earlier.

[00:13:29] You said that we split that into two separate tracks yeah so that you could skip that track.

[00:13:39] She begs Chris I'm gonna correct that to say we split that into two separate tracks so that you could play that track on repeat.

[00:13:49] Yeah yeah and not have to hear the rest of it.

[00:13:53] Yeah okay we'll go with that.

[00:13:57] But this is what I think corrected really I don't think we rehearsed this one very much before we recorded it there's always a few of those but this was one of them I think and I remember one of the very last things we recorded before we finished the album was Chris's high vocal harmony part.

[00:14:14] Oh my god I don't think I can do that anymore.

[00:14:17] Yeah it was really difficult I remember.

[00:14:20] That was one of the last things we recorded and what I remember about it was we actually had the wrong mic turned on when we were recording and so it was actually capturing you from across the room.

[00:14:29] Yeah I gave it this is really interesting quality though and I still love hearing that.

[00:14:34] I don't know what I was thinking quite frankly because you were already really the vocal was already pretty high and I was already doing a high vocal and then it just got started it was just like got higher.

[00:14:51] I think that I stepped in and I said do the end of nowhere man.

[00:14:59] Like where we're Paul things like the part but then on the last one he goes really high and you are already super high and you're like okay.

[00:15:07] Yeah I think at the time I don't know if I honestly don't know if I could do it anymore but at the time it was one of those things where I just kind of went for it and got it and so it worked but yeah it's it's pretty high pretty high vocal there and it works great to is like a climactic end to the album.

[00:15:28] You know what I love about that.

[00:15:30] Yeah it's a great closer.

[00:15:32] I turned out really well and I didn't know how this was going to turn out.

[00:15:35] It has kind of a dissonant last chord too you know after we finish isn't it just kind of goes wow yeah it's like the beginning it just kind of trails off.

[00:15:46] This is cool I really like the way in this.

[00:15:48] And of course the little bit of trivia that like dissonant major seventh chord or whatever it is that we kind of stretch out and extend there.

[00:16:01] Then we grab that same like chunk and sound and put it at the beginning of the first track on year three right to begin with the changing right.

[00:16:14] It's like it's like the same actual chunk of audio that we so it's almost like the one album bleeds into the next which is super cool.

[00:16:23] In fact I specifically wrote the next one we'll talk about this later but specifically wrote the next one in the same key just so I could make that happen because I really liked the idea of having one fade out and the other one fade in on that same chord.

[00:16:36] And it's funny because you actually hear that over the course of our those two albums.

[00:16:42] You actually hear that part three times because we also sampled it and reversed it and stretched it out over the entire four minutes of track 16.

[00:16:55] It's actually over that as well so you do here at three times in total.

[00:17:01] So it's like a 15 track 15 track 16 and then the don't yes is track 17.

[00:17:08] Okay, yeah.

[00:17:10] Right because then we have the next time.

[00:17:14] Yeah, yeah, the year three preview would be track.

[00:17:19] Yeah, I think the reason I came up with the idea of doing that chord thing from one song to the next one was because nobody had had like an ending song in first song back to back before.

[00:17:30] Yeah, you were the first one.

[00:17:32] Yeah, so that thought it would be fun to do that.

[00:17:35] That doesn't happen and that won't won't happen any other time. Well, it happened with me but I just didn't do anything with it.

[00:17:43] Oh, did it? No, no, Chris had the first and he had the last song on the first and last songs on year four year four. Yeah, because I had private little war and.

[00:17:58] Yeah, for this hollow.

[00:18:00] Yeah, for this hollow.

[00:18:02] Yeah, for this hollow.

[00:18:05] What's the last song on year three? Oh no, Noah has that one.

[00:18:10] A manity syndrome. Yeah, immunity syndrome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I was thinking that the end of year three was what I had.

[00:18:20] Yeah, I was thinking that the end of year three was what I had.

[00:18:25] So, I don't know. I don't know.

[00:18:28] But so immunity syndrome would go into hey, Kara, wouldn't it?

[00:18:32] I guess technically. Yeah, I guess it would.

[00:18:36] Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's.

[00:18:37] Album wise. Album wise.

[00:18:39] And strangely enough.

[00:18:41] That like those aren't in the same key. Usually all my songs are in the same key.

[00:18:46] I'll tell you what I'll make turn about intruder bleed into the cage.

[00:18:50] Okay.

[00:18:51] All right, red track. Now this song we didn't we played it live several times but it was never one that was in a real regular rotation.

[00:19:02] I don't think right?

[00:19:03] We maybe played it soon after the release a couple of times and then.

[00:19:07] Too bad because I thought it sounded really good.

[00:19:09] I mean, obviously we couldn't do the long intro.

[00:19:11] Yeah, but yeah, it was cool because it just came in real mellow and then it was fun to rock out.

[00:19:19] I remember.

[00:19:20] No, I really like playing it.

[00:19:22] I think it was more than it was kind of a strain for us to sing it.

[00:19:25] And so.

[00:19:26] Yeah, I guess at the end of the set, it might be okay at that.

[00:19:29] But you know, who knows if you're losing your voice by the end of the set or not?

[00:19:33] Yeah, live.

[00:19:34] The vocals were.

[00:19:36] Recording the vocals were hard enough doing them live is another story.

[00:19:41] Yeah.

[00:19:42] But I have fun with it.

[00:19:43] I enjoyed it, especially the for this one, especially the recording process was a lot of fun.

[00:19:48] Yeah, I don't really remember.

[00:19:51] You know, we didn't play it live that often.

[00:19:54] I'm on keys on this one.

[00:19:58] And the key part isn't super complicated. It's mainly just some.

[00:20:04] I'm not sure if you're in the background.

[00:20:06] So that gives me a lot of freedom to be able to do the to do vocals.

[00:20:09] I don't have to really think too much about what I'm playing.

[00:20:12] So that's, that's nice.

[00:20:14] It's always nice when I can just concentrate on the vocals and know that what I'm playing is going to be right.

[00:20:20] You know, it's not like when I'm on bass and I'm on vocals and I'm like, oh, wait.

[00:20:25] Which one am I supposed to be doing now?

[00:20:27] When I had lead guitar on this one, which I've rarely among lead guitar.

[00:20:32] I didn't do anything super fancy, but it was way more walkie than what I was used to.

[00:20:39] So it was one that I had to concentrate on and practice.

[00:20:44] And you know, so I think to any time we might have wanted like on a large ago.

[00:20:49] Hey, let's bring that one back.

[00:20:51] It wasn't one that like a lot of us could just kind of release.

[00:20:54] Okay, a lot of us meaning me just jump right back into and be like, okay, you know,

[00:21:00] I had no muscle memory on it and I would have had to completely relearned it from scratch.

[00:21:06] And you know, so it was that one.

[00:21:08] It was tough.

[00:21:09] It's too bad.

[00:21:10] I really do like that song and I really like playing it live too.

[00:21:14] But it was just, it was a complicated part for me.

[00:21:19] So it was one that I would have had.

[00:21:20] They've just really had in my wheelhouse all the time.

[00:21:23] Yeah, you know, some songs just work really well live and other songs not as much.

[00:21:27] And you know, you learn them for the release or whatever.

[00:21:30] But then you kind of stick with the ones that work the best, you know, so I mean we had tomorrow's yesterday and the side of paradise.

[00:21:37] For mine.

[00:21:38] So we really didn't need another one very often, you know, I think we played this at star based indie for the release.

[00:21:45] Yeah.

[00:21:46] And we probably played it at the mail that time, the same time, you know, because we had the the mail release.

[00:21:52] We probably played it there, but I don't really.

[00:21:54] I think we played this at the, um, we played it the studs building one time.

[00:22:00] Remember, oh yeah, and I think we played it there for so I don't know why I remember that, but.

[00:22:05] But I feel like right after Patrick met Savannah.

[00:22:08] And I remember she came to that show.

[00:22:11] Yeah, that was the first time we saw her with Patrick.

[00:22:15] Oh, that's right.

[00:22:16] She's kind of hanging out like behind a partition or something being really quiet.

[00:22:22] I remember that was shortly after y'all had, I mean we met her at Jen con.

[00:22:30] Yeah.

[00:22:31] Yeah.

[00:22:32] And then y'all had been.

[00:22:34] We kind of interact with star based indie for the year two release.

[00:22:37] Oh yeah, that's right.

[00:22:38] And so then we got to the studs building.

[00:22:41] Yeah.

[00:22:42] You know, there was like snuggling and baby talk going on and we're like what is going on?

[00:22:46] What happened?

[00:22:50] That was funny.

[00:22:51] Well, well done Patrick.

[00:22:53] Well done.

[00:22:54] Well done.

[00:22:55] You did okay there.

[00:22:58] I think it was it.

[00:22:59] I think it was it.

[00:23:00] It was it's a Star Trek Las Vegas.

[00:23:03] She was like leaving us backstage to go fetch sandwiches or something and I just like turned to Noah and I said how did that happen?

[00:23:11] No one said I don't know.

[00:23:18] Well, this is another song that I think I wrote a really fun bass part for but it's also like Noah said like super complicated and it's difficult to like it wears me out playing it live.

[00:23:36] So I'm not too upset that this one kind of fell out of rotation.

[00:23:40] But I do really like the bass part that I wrote.

[00:23:44] It's it's definitely very catchy, like when you hear it by itself.

[00:23:49] I also think that because I you know I think we have lots of songs where they they're difficult live.

[00:23:56] I think partly because of how we sort of wrote parts and set them up for the album.

[00:24:03] I think like we could have in hindsight.

[00:24:07] You know, I think we could have changed a lot of those songs to just make them work for live without sacrificing the essence of the song for some song.

[00:24:18] Some songs maybe not but I think there's several songs.

[00:24:21] I think we could have just been like well, we're just going to simplify this a whole lot so we can play live and have fun with it.

[00:24:27] But we just we never tended to do that.

[00:24:30] I think a lot of times that actually happens just organically when we played enough.

[00:24:35] And I was going to say I think we've done that before.

[00:24:38] Yeah, you like sacrifice little parts that you that are just too hard for you to keep up with that aren't really that important.

[00:24:45] I know that I've simplified the the baseline on Aaron of mercy more than once when I'm just trying to concentrate on singing because there's a lot of movement on that on that.

[00:24:59] The base part there.

[00:25:01] Did you simplify it by like dropping it down a half step?

[00:25:06] No, and then playing all the wrong notes.

[00:25:09] Yep, I did do that once.

[00:25:12] Yeah, that's an interesting experiment.

[00:25:19] The only one I don't want to I want to throw your creativity.

[00:25:25] I think that was it.

[00:25:26] That was a radio radio wasn't.

[00:25:28] Yeah, and I couldn't I couldn't hear it and I was thought I was in the right place, but I was a half step off that when you said.

[00:25:38] Do people know this and that?

[00:25:41] No, no one else knows of that video.

[00:25:44] Oh dear God.

[00:25:45] Tell the folks about it.

[00:25:48] So when I was editing some some songs that we'd recorded the radio radio that we also had video for.

[00:25:55] I was listening and I heard Chris's base on Aaron to mercy.

[00:26:00] And so I just I I singled out his base and put it on the video.

[00:26:06] And I made a bunch of notes about all the things he did wrong, and then I sent it out to the guys so they could have a laugh.

[00:26:13] And I shouldn't laugh because it was pretty much mic making fun of me, but it was so funny.

[00:26:18] I felt so stupid.

[00:26:20] If it had just been one or two little notes or like the bear or maybe one little section where you just have to be off.

[00:26:27] You know, it wouldn't been a big deal, but it was like the entire song.

[00:26:30] They were only like maybe maybe two like little parts where you are actually on the right note playing the right thing.

[00:26:39] What's funny is you are.

[00:26:44] You make all these comments about almost there. No, no.

[00:26:49] And then and then he's and then I am in the right place. And you're like, oh, there you go. There you go.

[00:26:54] And then I with it again. You're like, well.

[00:26:59] Almost at it.

[00:27:00] It was oh man. It was so fun.

[00:27:02] It was humiliating, but also really funny.

[00:27:06] So back to Adonius.

[00:27:11] The only other memory I have in working on this song was when we were when we were first learning it was trying to figure out how to go from the three four to the faster part.

[00:27:25] I know there's a lot of debate there and we finally ended up just having Andy counted in, but do you remember us struggling with that Patrick?

[00:27:34] I don't remember that particular struggle, but there have been a lot of struggles.

[00:27:41] I like I said the struggle I remembered was from the previous song we talked about a mock time where there was a lot of different arrangements and stuff going on this one.

[00:27:50] This one to me seems like we did it pretty quickly.

[00:27:53] I remember this transition discussion. Yeah, and we were trying to make it.

[00:27:59] We were trying to make it really smooth without you know losing any.

[00:28:06] Just like going from one to the next and we ended up just kind of fading out on one and clicking into the next, didn't we?

[00:28:14] Yeah.

[00:28:15] Yeah.

[00:28:16] So it wasn't exactly what we had planned, but I think I think it turned I think we made the best decision for the song even though it wasn't exactly what we might have envisioned originally.

[00:28:27] It was a short, short pause that it worked.

[00:28:30] Yeah, yeah, I think it worked.

[00:28:32] The alternative was to play the entire song slow in three four and clearly people weren't ready for that.

[00:28:39] I don't remember this debate, but I'll take your word for it and I'm glad that we had it the way we ended up with it.

[00:28:46] Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the song the way it turned out.

[00:28:51] It's cool because it feels like we're just kind of ending it on this slowed down note and then it just takes off.

[00:28:58] So it's kind of sneaky in that it's, we really end that album on kind of a banger, but it doesn't feel like it at the beginning of it.

[00:29:09] So I like how it's kind of subversive that way.

[00:29:12] Kind of surprises people.

[00:29:13] Yeah.

[00:29:14] I thought that whole album, it was a nice combination to that album.

[00:29:18] Overall, yeah, I really like the whole album.

[00:29:21] Yeah, year two, I think is I think at the time, I don't know if I'd still say this, but at the time it was probably one of our,

[00:29:31] I mean, it was our second album, but it felt way more cohesive and complete than then our first one did because our first one was kind of we,

[00:29:41] it was kind of dissociated because we weren't really together yet when we were writing the songs.

[00:29:46] And so year two, once we had gotten here and finished all the songs that felt like they all went together and really have this cohesive sound and had a flow and even, you know,

[00:29:59] even though we're writing songs separately.

[00:30:01] So I think this is really the point at which we started figuring out how this whole thing works agreed.

[00:30:10] Yes, affirmative.

[00:30:13] Well, Patrick, I know at this point on year two, not only were you trying to outdo a mock time, which came right before this, but you were also competing with shore leave as being, you know, the song that finished the previous album.

[00:30:32] So, you know, I think you did okay. I wouldn't say that you out you outdid shore leave, but it was a good try.

[00:30:40] Actually, the thing that was most different for me between year one and two is that most of my songs on year one were really shorts.

[00:30:47] And I noticed how like you guys all got like twice as much time on the album.

[00:30:53] So this time I was consciously making my songs longer.

[00:30:59] See, that's why I wrote Friday's child on year three.

[00:31:02] That's right.

[00:31:03] It's like, oh, I'm thinking of the longest song.

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[00:32:30] Captain Flock star date 3568.1

[00:32:37] We are in Louisville, Pollock 4. Appalaches, located in the northern system. All conditions are now.

[00:32:50] I can see the mess, the tension and the foreshadow of death.

[00:32:56] You will follow our rules and regulations to the tea.

[00:33:02] Recognize your rank, follow orders, think.

[00:33:07] I'll have at least a possible responsibility.

[00:33:12] What is our Internet in Pollock 4?

[00:33:14] We will be in the ringstander's inventory where that would end the next few minutes. Captain.

[00:33:20] While we are still similar, the difference is in the normal, but regrettable.

[00:33:27] It's incredible. Walk to the vault of tomorrow.

[00:33:31] His food and his drink, they have little substance. Once a matter, and he matter.

[00:33:37] What is it, Liza?

[00:33:39] Pollock 4. Class of life planning. Oxygen in the nitrogen atmosphere.

[00:33:45] Six years of decay, no life for.

[00:33:48] A clock of age, or a broken fuse.

[00:33:52] Don't leave for contact in all respects. Quite ordinary, Captain.

[00:33:59] Throws a bold red my head. It bounces off like styrofoam. I love the building.

[00:34:05] The slingshot effect could reverse time. Be ready.

[00:34:08] So I will wait for you. In madness, I will hide.

[00:34:15] The boss is different. Stand to the limits.

[00:34:22] All six, four are on the deck. Do you see that?

[00:34:26] What is it? A parachute.

[00:34:29] A drone. A radio. And a machine.

[00:34:32] It's on our left lane as well.

[00:34:39] We love that they are controlled by fear.

[00:34:42] We are only the ancient peoples who are picking us up before.

[00:34:45] We will be keeping what it becomes necessary now.

[00:34:50] Don't fight this sunny feeling just enjoy being high.

[00:34:55] Let's turn your emotions into weak.

[00:35:01] Negative, Captain. Not delivering issue.

[00:35:05] A dead for half. A dead for action.

[00:35:09] A field of energy.

[00:35:11] I'll be there. You are in that.

[00:35:13] Hard to fight, Captain.

[00:35:15] I love the building.

[00:35:21] What is it, what is it?

[00:35:22] I thought what the time might be with.

[00:35:24] You're just a dark and student.

[00:35:26] I will have a sun in the wind, good to set it.

[00:35:29] I hope that everything's not just the price that I could want in your mind.

[00:35:32] They will take from you.

[00:35:34] But they took away from me.

[00:35:36] Why does it matter?

[00:35:41] We cannot use your skin, Captain.

[00:35:43] It's almost as if it needs to be.

[00:35:47] We're very worried.

[00:35:49] All entities reversed.

[00:35:51] We are dead still, Captain.

[00:35:56] This whole sector is not advised.

[00:36:02] And though he winds up in the cage too bad a train lane,

[00:36:05] he refused.

[00:36:06] We answered the servant and he said he'd drive the rule of hell.

[00:36:13] The ideology is fine.

[00:36:15] Captain, we help him in the response.

[00:36:18] The field matters to you as well as the way we let you grasp.

[00:36:21] We are dead.

[00:36:23] I love the building.

[00:36:25] Read the remains of your existence.

[00:36:28] You must accept what you think you will be.

[00:36:30] Now my heart is what it might make a boy come up.

[00:36:34] This is all like some sort of bad trip.

[00:36:37] The time for you, because it was too late to have nothing left.

[00:36:43] I love you.

[00:36:47] What is that?

[00:36:49] Is that a giant thing?

[00:36:51] Giant and in the sky.

[00:36:57] Crimes the Enterprise.

[00:37:02] From Pollux for Flight, your energy.

[00:37:12] Giant and in the sky.

[00:37:17] Could crush the Enterprise.

[00:37:23] The

[00:37:24] Red dress is the crew.

[00:37:27] Pretentiously.

[00:37:33] Is mankind progressed?

[00:37:35] Forgot the most things which gave life.

[00:37:40] Really.

[00:37:43] There's a knotted face.

[00:37:46] The universe and your time has passed.

[00:37:54] The God of all of my fears.

[00:37:59] Light and both cynicism.

[00:38:04] Well, coming back home to mental illness.

[00:38:13] Like the Enterprise.

[00:38:17] Gathered all the leaves.

[00:38:22] All the reed's are rewashed.

[00:38:27] I'm your insolent.

[00:38:31] It's mankind progressed.

[00:38:33] Forgot the most things which gave life.

[00:38:39] There's a knotted face.

[00:38:42] The universe and your time has passed.

[00:38:47] There's no time for God.

[00:38:51] There's no time for God.

[00:38:54] There's no time for God.

[00:38:59] Who will hold the ring out of the day?

[00:39:09] One taking for God.

[00:39:13] Five thousand years ago.

[00:39:18] Well, far and fast goes.

[00:39:23] Shabbos may belong.

[00:39:27] Drugs and simple shoppers.

[00:39:32] I'm originating.

[00:39:36] Yes, took these books for God's intent to hurt me.

[00:39:45] It's mankind progressed.

[00:39:48] Forgot the most things which gave life.

[00:39:53] There's a knotted face.

[00:39:56] The universe and your time has passed.

[00:40:01] There's no time for God.

[00:40:05] There's no time for God.

[00:40:10] There's no time for God.

[00:40:14] Who will hold the ring out of the day?

[00:40:20] One taking for God.

[00:40:24] One taking for God.

[00:40:45] So that'll do it for Who Loans For Adonius.

[00:40:48] But I bet Andy has a few words to say about this song.

[00:40:51] What do you think, Mike?

[00:40:53] Yeah. Before he wraps us up, let's hear what Andy has to say.

[00:40:58] Who moans for Adonius?

[00:41:02] Whatever you want to call him.

[00:41:05] Adonius. Adonius.

[00:41:10] I do remember that we might have thought it was Adonius at first.

[00:41:15] And they also never say his name in the episode.

[00:41:19] Right. Well, the guy in the episode's name is Apollo.

[00:41:22] Right.

[00:41:24] So who the who the fuck is Adonius?

[00:41:27] Adonia.

[00:41:28] Yeah. Adonius.

[00:41:29] Yeah. Recently, I heard somebody on a podcast say that they researched it and it's supposed to be pronounced Adonai.

[00:41:38] And I think it's not a good thing to say about that.

[00:41:41] I don't know.

[00:41:42] I don't know.

[00:41:43] I don't know.

[00:41:44] I don't know.

[00:41:45] I don't know.

[00:41:46] I don't know.

[00:41:47] I don't know.

[00:41:48] So, uh,

[00:41:49] Not much to say about the episode.

[00:41:52] There's a giant green hand.

[00:41:55] There's a giant God guy.

[00:41:59] Anything else?

[00:42:03] I still love that when he grew, uh, he still had on his tiny little skirt thing.

[00:42:12] And he was, I think I made a meme about that too, actually.

[00:42:19] Probably.

[00:42:20] It's like the late is like there's just a should like a photo with him is just just just said that just said, I am, I am the God Apollo and then like Kirk and Kirk in check of

[00:42:31] the story.

[00:42:32] I think McCoy and it's like, and we're the guys that can totally, totally see you see up your skirt.

[00:42:37] Adonai was apparently also a poem by Percy Bisch Shelley.

[00:42:43] And it was an algae on the death of John Keats in 1866.

[00:42:48] I had to look it up.

[00:42:49] I don't know.

[00:42:50] That was just a side thing.

[00:42:51] Uh, yeah.

[00:42:52] Yeah, that was.

[00:42:54] Uh, this is a very strange episode.

[00:42:56] I mean, obviously you have the iconic green hand holding the enterprise in place.

[00:43:02] And then you get they get beamed down to the planet and he's apparently a God and, um, what's her name decides to stay back with him just because he's a God even though he was a dick the entire time.

[00:43:16] Right?

[00:43:18] Uh, I mean, it was the 60s.

[00:43:22] So I mean, I guess like that was the thing.

[00:43:26] It's like, hey, I'm a tough guy.

[00:43:28] I'm sure of myself, you know, I can, I can provide for you, you know, because I'm a God.

[00:43:33] It's like she's like, okay, sure.

[00:43:35] Like like like Lieutenant MacGyvers and Space seed.

[00:43:39] Yeah, yeah.

[00:43:41] That's right.

[00:43:42] You're going to stay with Khan.

[00:43:44] You know, I just want to see you see how this dickhead shakes out.

[00:43:54] Yeah, I can change in my swear.

[00:43:57] No, don't do that.

[00:43:59] Don't give yourself a project if you're staying behind on a planet with somebody.

[00:44:04] No, you don't, you don't need a special project.

[00:44:09] So like keep yourself busy and give yourself a challenge if you're completely leaving your job

[00:44:14] and your life just to go live with one dude on a planet.

[00:44:18] Not going to happen because I mean we all see he says, yeah, well it worked out from a guyver.

[00:44:24] Yeah.

[00:44:26] Oh God, she was not around dead during the Rathakon days.

[00:44:30] No, she didn't make it.

[00:44:33] Have you watched all of the Star Trek continues episodes?

[00:44:38] Yeah, yeah.

[00:44:40] So you saw the one where they brought back Apollo right?

[00:44:43] With the original actor and everything.

[00:44:46] Yeah, I thought that was pretty awesome.

[00:44:48] Actually, you know, all of the Star Trek continues episodes.

[00:44:52] I think are pretty cool.

[00:44:54] And the fact that they brought back several actors for various episodes.

[00:44:58] But I thought the one with Apollo was pretty good.

[00:45:01] And a nice kind of book into his story.

[00:45:06] Yeah, like what he'd been up to since then.

[00:45:09] It's been a while since I've watched that but this is the whole episode is I haven't watched it for a while now.

[00:45:16] But I wish I could justify what she did like by staying behind or like figure out why she stayed.

[00:45:26] It's like, ooh, it's fascinating. That's not a reason.

[00:45:29] Right.

[00:45:30] I've met I've met tons of fascinating people, but I'm not leaving my life to you know, just hang out with them.

[00:45:37] Wasn't she like a specialist in and like more?

[00:45:42] Yeah, like Greek gods or something like.

[00:45:45] Mm hmm.

[00:45:46] Like Earth mythology or something along those lines.

[00:45:50] Yeah.

[00:45:51] Whatever.

[00:45:53] It's like you can't tell right away that this is a sham.

[00:45:56] And this guy's crazy.

[00:45:58] Ooh, he can be he can grow.

[00:46:00] Ooh, wow.

[00:46:02] Awesome.

[00:46:03] He can make things appear cool.

[00:46:05] It's magic too.

[00:46:07] Not who he says he is though.

[00:46:11] So do you remember Patrick's first demo?

[00:46:15] Slightly.

[00:46:17] I know I know we made some changes.

[00:46:21] Once we got to it, but I remember like I remember it wasn't it all kind of just like.

[00:46:27] Slow.

[00:46:28] Yeah, and it was all in like minor.

[00:46:30] It was like really depressing.

[00:46:33] What a way to end it out.

[00:46:35] Well, I think that was the point.

[00:46:37] I think that's the reason that we were all like.

[00:46:41] Maybe you give us another try, Patrick.

[00:46:49] Maybe add some pet.

[00:46:51] Yeah, it's I mean to be it.

[00:46:54] It closing song you got you got to leave them one more.

[00:46:58] Yeah, and like a super sad ballad about a false god is definitely not going to do it.

[00:47:07] Yeah.

[00:47:08] And of course, I mean Patrick agreed that it was much better after the changes.

[00:47:15] Yeah.

[00:47:16] Yeah, I went back.

[00:47:19] I listened to that original demo also and.

[00:47:23] And man does it slag is just like.

[00:47:27] It's like giant hand in the sky.

[00:47:36] But so.

[00:47:38] So we did we changed it.

[00:47:40] You know, it starts out a little a little mellow, but then it kicks in.

[00:47:44] Basically becomes like kind of a punk song really.

[00:47:47] Yeah, I was compared to like a like that change up there.

[00:47:51] I kind of compared it's like a drop kick Murphy's ask kind of thing.

[00:47:55] Yeah, I could see that.

[00:47:57] Yeah, yeah, because it has that kind of kind of feel to it.

[00:48:00] I mean the way but wait, what was the?

[00:48:03] What's the drinking song that by any other name did?

[00:48:08] Yeah, by any other name.

[00:48:10] Yeah, that's the that was the other one that had like the very.

[00:48:13] That's more drop kick Murphy's type.

[00:48:15] Yeah, yeah, influence right there.

[00:48:17] But yeah, this was this was kind of the original it's like.

[00:48:21] I always loved the way it like kicked in and like the way it like has that quick little pause.

[00:48:28] Like right right after the courses so it has like a you have like a chance to breathe for a second.

[00:48:33] And then it's like, oh no, we're still back.

[00:48:36] I remember the debate as to how to switch between those parts, which of course.

[00:48:42] I mean we just had you count it off but I remember yeah, it was like a quick one two three four.

[00:48:48] Yeah, I remember there was like a huge debate as to whether or not we should keep the count in the song.

[00:48:54] Yeah, which I think we did end up leaving it in.

[00:48:59] Yeah, because I listened on my phone earlier.

[00:49:01] I wasn't really listening for like stick clicks or anything like that.

[00:49:04] But yeah, but did we did we leave the stick clicks in?

[00:49:08] I think we did.

[00:49:10] Of course now right about now there's probably like a couple of people screaming at us like there's no stick works.

[00:49:19] Well, I think it would have been weird to leave them in considering this is the same album with arena, right?

[00:49:25] This one and yeah, Galileo 7 and arena are on the same one.

[00:49:30] And both of those had what we left the stick clicks in.

[00:49:34] So it's weird to have yet another song with stick clicks because I think I think I was amazed that we that I was able to get away with leaving two stick clicks in.

[00:49:44] I wouldn't think I'd be able to get get away with a third stick.

[00:49:49] So even though I love stick click count ends.

[00:49:52] They're wonderful, especially with a little bit of reverb bad ass.

[00:49:56] Come on.

[00:49:59] And we haven't really done the song live all that.

[00:50:02] No, we really only played it a handful of times back when the album first came out.

[00:50:09] I don't I think maybe like five or six times at the most.

[00:50:15] So yeah, I none of the rest of us have remembered any of thing about any of the times we ever played it.

[00:50:21] So it must have been it must have gone 11 years ago.

[00:50:26] It must have gone well and uneventful.

[00:50:29] Yeah, there wasn't there was really much all I remember mainly was after the first album with the way we ended the first album and then started year two.

[00:50:42] And then we were having having it in having this song end on that just kind of like that note that just rings out with a bunch of reverb and all the effects and everything.

[00:50:55] And then starting year three, which will be the next episode we wind up recording of little songs.

[00:51:02] Starting it off with the changeling.

[00:51:04] And then we noticed this year two ends exactly like right where your three picks up.

[00:51:13] Yeah, in case you didn't did you guys discuss that already.

[00:51:16] We didn't talk about that. Yes.

[00:51:18] I'm not original.

[00:51:20] But we didn't talk about the fact that we put out that it was it was like a year and a half between those.

[00:51:25] And we put out a whole another EP and between in between.

[00:51:32] Well, the Oh, it's a tribbles came between two and three right.

[00:51:37] Yeah.

[00:51:38] Okay. Yeah. That was.

[00:51:41] How did we how did we used to do it?

[00:51:44] I don't know.

[00:51:45] It's ridiculous.

[00:51:47] I'm putting out for the first four years we put out an album a year.

[00:51:53] And ever since then, it's been like three or five years.

[00:51:59] I think you've been getting longer and longer.

[00:52:02] But I'm glad we're working on the final album in the TOS run because it by it with the way that we've been going.

[00:52:09] We're so writing and recording wise, we wouldn't have another TOS album out into like 20 30.

[00:52:17] Yeah.

[00:52:18] So any other memories or thoughts or anything about who mourns for us.

[00:52:27] Yeah.

[00:52:28] Um, I mean, figuring out how to pronounce it at first having people at cons try to correct us.

[00:52:35] And then us and then us having to be like, well, we looked it up and this is what it said.

[00:52:40] And it's like, well, I looked it up and this is this is what it said.

[00:52:44] So,

[00:52:45] we're going to have a final song on year two, however you want.

[00:52:50] Just know that this is the pronunciation that we found.

[00:52:55] So don't add us nerds.

[00:53:02] Take us out Chris.

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